I do get that, but >> You would have got it that night. >> If my daughter got into my drugs >> And we had a conversation. Remember when we were sitting there and you were sitting on the bed and I said two-year-olds just don't die. >> Yeah, they don't. >> Bracken Woods Lane sits in Westwood on the west side of Cincinnati. On the evening of July the 29th, 2024, emergency crews were called there for a child who was not breathing. She was 2 years old. Her name was Ah'Laylah Bradley and she was pronounced dead at Cincinnati Children's Hospital. Her mother, Bethany Miller Williams, was 21. It took the Hamilton County Coroner's Office 7 weeks to return a ruling, homicide by exposure to fentanyl and xylazine. A warrant followed the next day. On September the 19th, Bethany was arrested and brought to an interview room with the completed report already in the building. She had been told what she was charged with. She had not been told what the report said. This is the police interrogation of Bethany Miller Williams. >> I've been trying to get in contact with you for a while. >> Well, you got my phone number and my name and >> I called and texted. >> From it? >> I called and texted you leave >> Um, you never text back. I wonder if you were texting my desk phone cuz >> Uh, I texted whatever number was on the card. >> That's my desk. It doesn't take texts. >> I only texted cuz I didn't get no I didn't get no successful calls, so >> Why do you leave me a voicemail? >> I don't know. I don't really do voicemails. >> Well, you're young and I'm old. I guess that's a generational thing. >> Yeah, don't don't leave voicemails nowadays. >> Okay. Um, you remember Dwayne and my name's Kelly. They told you why you're here, right? >> No, they they told me what my charges were, so I didn't have two and two together, you know what I mean? >> Okay. >> But I asked them instantly like, am I the only one that has a warrant? >> Yes, you are. >> And why is that? >> Well, we're going to talk about all that. But um I have to go over your >> my dad, please? >> Not right now. >> Like when this is done. >> Um you'll be able to call him from the Justice Center. But I need to go over your rights with you because we're in a police facility and you're not free to go. It's the law, okay? Are you familiar with your rights? Have you ever heard anybody's rights read to them before, like on TV >> Yeah, some words. >> Okay. Well, I'll go over them with you and um I'm going to make sure that you understand them. How far did you go in school? >> Senior. Like all the way through. >> Through high school? Okay, can you read and write okay? >> Mhm. >> Okay, that's not tough. >> I don't have my diploma though. >> That's okay, I just need to make sure that you are able to understand what I'm reading to you and answer questions and things like that. So, you can read and write? You had any drugs or alcohol in the last 24 hours? >> Um no alcohol, but I smoked weed and fent. >> Today or last night? >> Today. >> Today? Um what else? >> Um fent. >> Hm? >> Fentanyl. >> You had that when did you have that? >> Um way way this morning cuz I'm on a methadone and I'm trying to come down. You know what I mean? >> When's the last time you had methadone? >> Um from forever ago. My clinic got messed up, my insurance got messed up, but I got it back now, so I haven't been back with everything that's been going on. >> Okay. >> It's been a while, so I need to get back in there. >> Okay. Um do you have any um medical problems? >> Yes, I have pancreatitis and gallstones. Every now and then gallstones. I have um a really bad stomach issue. Um I had a GI coming up, but now I I have it no more. >> Okay. Um do you take medicine for any of that? >> Um well, they prescribed me medicine. I just don't take it cuz it doesn't help. >> Okay. Um what about mental health problems? >> Anxiety, depression, ADHD, OCD. >> What's OCD? >> OCD. >> Oh, OCD. >> Bipolar. >> You have all that going on? Okay, what medicine do you take for that? >> I don't take them anymore. >> Okay. All right. I'm going to go over your rights with you. Um and then I want to I'm going to go over it all and make sure you understand everything, okay? Before we ask any questions, you must understand your rights. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions and to have them with you during questioning. >> Mhm. >> If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish. If you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you will still have the right to stop answering at any time. You also have the right to stop answering at any time until you talk to a lawyer. So, I want to go over each one, okay? When uh what does it mean to say that you have the right to remain silent? What does that mean? >> choose to not talk. >> Okay. Um what about the next one? Go ahead. Keep the question. >> No, I was going to say I know it. I know it. I mean, I just I'm really upset right now to be honest because I wasn't really expecting this and >> Like >> So, let me get through this part and then we'll talk about all the other stuff, okay? >> Mhm. >> Um so, what is court? >> Um where you have to go and talk to judge. >> Okay. Um Do you know what a lawyer is? >> Mhm. >> Okay, tell me what a lawyer would do for you. >> Help me on my behalf and talk for me. >> Where? >> In in >> okay. Um >> And then here maybe, right? I'm going to or wherever else that a lawyer would be useful. >> Mhm. Yeah. Um where it says if you can't afford one, one will be appointed, what does that mean? >> I mean you guys will give me one if I can't get one myself. >> Okay. And then this last part, read that and then tell me what it means. >> Means like means I can stop if I want to, but if I don't feel like if I don't want to answer anymore, I don't have to leave them without my lawyer. >> That's right. All you have to do is tell us that you want a lawyer and we won't ask any more questions about this case. >> a lawyer though, but I I'll I'll talk to you guys cuz you know what I mean? I don't I don't got nothing to lie about, so I'll talk to you guys even with with or without a lawyer, you know what I mean? Cuz >> I'm going to go over that with you in a second. This Sign this for me. It's just saying that you understand your rights. You're not giving up any of your rights. It's just that you understand them. >> How soon can I speak to a lawyer? >> So, if you want a lawyer to talk to If you want a lawyer with you when you talk to us, tell us that you want a lawyer. I can't get a lawyer here for you right now. When you go to court for arraignment, you'll get an attorney appointed. >> When do you think that'll be? >> Maybe tomorrow. Um and that's an adult decision you have to make yourself. If you want to tell us what happened >> I don't know. >> comfortable doing that, then >> I I mean I was going to tell you what happened cuz this is the same thing I was going to tell the lawyer, so as I said, I want a lawyer, but it don't to if they're here now because you know what I mean? It's going to be the same story. So >> You'll get a lawyer for sure. Um but I just want to I got to be really careful like if you're saying that you want a lawyer but you'll talk to us um it needs to be really clear if you want one with you right now or if you want to talk to us right now without a lawyer. You have to be very >> to you right now without a lawyer. >> Okay. All right. >> But yeah, I'll still get cuz I just understand that I won't get one right now. So you know what I mean? >> Yes, but the judge will have one for you when you go to court. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Um So we're here to talk about Alaylah. And um I know you told us some things the night that we were at your house and you didn't tell us all the things that happened. We know that. Um We got the report from the coroner's office so we know how she died. Do you know how she died? >> Was it Was it drugs? >> What was drugs? >> What was it? >> Fentanyl. >> Fentanyl. >> I figured. >> Tell me why you figured. >> Because I was asleep and my daughter was awake when I was awake but two two other people in my house used to sniff fentanyl. You know what I mean? And they were all in the living room and away from me and I I still have Long story short, I still had my [ __ ] when you guys left. So my daughter didn't get into my [ __ ] You know what I mean? Real [ __ ] I mean somebody else's [ __ ] she got into. And I have multiple people that can vouch for me on that. >> Well, we've talked to everybody that was in the house. And um their stories are all consistent with each other in that she was in the bedroom with you the whole day. >> That's not what people are telling me and I have video proof of her me me and my daughter both being awake and outside my room. >> Yeah, she came out there out of the room for a few minutes with you and then you went back into your room. >> I'm saying I have multiple videos saying that proof of me and her being awake and not in my room, you know what I mean? Like I was in my room a lot that day, but I wasn't in there full-time and I was asleep, you know what I mean? Like I have a lot I I can tell I was just asking the police officer if you guys have a polygraph test because I I want to take one. Because I'm not lying. I was a My daughter was awake when I was awake and I went to sleep and my daughter was not alive when I woke up. Like something happened when I was asleep and that's not fair that I'm in trouble for that, you know what I mean? >> Well, she's your child. I do get that. You have drugs in your home that she was able to access. >> I know, but they were not mine that she got into. >> I don't know how or why you can say that. >> Because I still had mine. >> Where do you keep it? >> I keep it up in the closet, up in top shelf. >> Mhm. >> Always. You can ask everybody. I promise I can take a polygraph test. That's why I said, "Do you have a polygraph test?" >> Why does it matter whose drugs she got into? Why do Why do you think that matters? >> Because I want the person who [ __ ] let it stay out. I want them to be in jail, too. >> That would be That would be you, right? >> No, cuz I I didn't leave mine out. >> She's your child and it's your house. >> I mean, the fact that you allowed drugs in your home for your personal use is one thing, wrong, and then the fact that you let other people come in your home around your child to use drugs is another thing, but still wrong. I don't understand where you're dividing this line like, "I'm okay because the people I allowed to come in and use fentanyl caused this, not me." >> I didn't know it first. And I I I [ __ ] up. >> Well, knew [ __ ] up that night and you didn't even tell us. >> Because I didn't know they had drugs at first. >> you had drugs. You know you had drugs. >> But I didn't have it out and my daughter didn't get into my drugs. >> And it's could possibly be drug related and you and you swore up and down that >> Cuz it wasn't cuz I it knew it wasn't my drugs. >> in very clear terms if there were drugs in your home. >> That I didn't know about. I didn't know about. I said no, not that I know about. >> Well, you you just said you had two people in your home that was using drugs. >> I know cuz I found out after >> You should have said yes. I use fentanyl and I have fentanyl in my home. The other people in my home use fentanyl. That would have been >> Probably I should have done that. I should have just gave told you guys up front where my [ __ ] was so you knew it wasn't mine. And I know I should have gotten in trouble, but >> What did you do with yours? >> I [ __ ] they they did something with it. Like as soon as I called for them and told them that [ __ ] that she was passed away and that called 911, they was like, "Where's your [ __ ] Where's your shit?" And I was like, "My shit's put up." They were like, "Give it to me." Yes, that's why I was like, "I still have my shit." Like my [ __ ] was up. >> How how long How many months has it been? >> It's been since July, end of July, July 2019. >> had that whole time and this is the story you came up with? >> No, it's the truth. >> like a lot more time on this? >> I What do you mean a story? This is the truth. Like what? I'm not I just stopped rolling it then cuz this stuff is making me upset low key. >> This whole situation should have made you upset. >> It is making me It is upsetting. It's just It's just >> Feel like you guys aren't understanding. >> Well, we're trying to understand, but there's there's a point in time where you have to realize that you're and I know you realize that your daughter died. I know I know that. But and that That is the time when you tell the truth, and right now is the time when you tell the truth. You can't um and it and it's a natural reaction and feeling to want to kind of minimize your own involvement. And I know that you don't want to think about the fact that she overdosed on fentanyl, and that is your drug of choice. And there was fentanyl in your home. But that is your responsibility. She's your child. It's your home. You have a duty to make sure that she has a safe place to live and exist and be a child. Do you understand that? And I'm not trying to make you feel bad. I'm trying to make you understand the situation and what your um obligations are as a parent. So, we've you know, like I said, we talked to everybody that was in the house, and what you're telling us about where your drugs were does not coincide with what they have independently told us. >> Yeah, I know. They're I know it was going on. I just ignored them all. Everyone could tell me, "They're making reports on you. They're going to the police station. They're writing up stuff." And my dad just told me, "Don't believe it cuz it's all lies, and that the truth will come out." And that's what I did. And I just waited, and this is what happens. >> Well, the truth did come out. We were We knew what happened to her. We were just waiting for the toxicology report. Do you know what that is? >> They don't talk to me. >> Well, we were waiting for that, but we were waiting for um her drug test. Okay. We figured and we're almost sure that it was a fentanyl overdose, but we needed to wait for the lab to give us the official report. And that is how she died. And that is your responsibility. >> What time did she pass away? >> I can't tell you that. >> Why? >> Cuz I don't know, honey. I don't know. >> I was just saying it to my daughter. >> No, cuz I don't know. What time do you think she got into it? >> I don't know because my daughter was when I woke up at 5:00 I think it was about 5:00. She was up and running around in my room. Like, you know what I mean? And I I saw that she broke my blunt up into thousand pieces. So, I you know, I whooped her little butt and I put her in the bed with me and we she was sitting up watching TV and I fell asleep watching TV. And then I woke up a couple hours later around the 9:00 area again where Leanne came into my room and everyone's even saying it's weird that she went into my room. But she went into my room we were talking for a couple minutes and that's when she lifted up the blanket on Lay and checked on her and I didn't feel the need to check on her because she checked on her, you know what I mean? >> I think she was probably already deceased at that point. >> And and that's what we all put that together. So, I went I laid back down, woke up again at at a like 11:00. That's when I found out she passed away and I called you guys and so we all thought like when I moved her over she was a little stiff. So, we all This is what we were thinking when you said you hadn't put time to whatever. I don't remember what you said, but you didn't put time to think of something. No, over time I was trying to think of everything, you know what I mean? This is what I thought of over time. But rigor mortis already kicked in which means she was already passed away at 9:00 when she came in and said she checked on her. So, why would she That's weird. Why would she lie? Like >> Let me ask you about your blunt. Is it a blunt that you rolled? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Um had you smoked that weed before? >> I don't know. I don't I had I just bought I just bought that weed. I don't know why. >> Cuz I'm asking because there could have been fentanyl in your weed. >> Um I've I don't think I I don't know. I didn't I didn't light that specific blunt up, but I can't remember if it's the same weed I always smoke, but I bought from somebody new. >> Could there have been fentanyl in that weed? >> Uh I don't think so, though. I really don't. >> Why? >> Cuz I've never had weed with fentanyl on it before. >> It's very common. >> Like No, I don't think so cuz that means that means I would have smoked it I don't know. I don't think there was fentanyl in the weed. I really don't >> you use Listen, if you use fentanyl and there was fentanyl in the weed, it's not going to affect you the same as a baby. >> I really don't think there was any in it. I I think I know I think I know what happened, but I don't want to say what what I think happened cuz then you guys are not going to believe it, I don't think. But I A lot of people think that this happened. A lot of people did. My dad, my aunt, my baby daddy, my friends, everybody that was there that night. Like I think that she got into some [ __ ] and they freaked out and put her in the bed with me. That's what I think happened and everybody else does, too. >> So I heard a story that um that you saw her get into it. >> Hm? You heard a story that what? I would >> That you saw Alayna get into your fentanyl. >> Yeah, no, that's not >> And that you gave her a bath and put her to bed. >> What? No, I'll take a poly on that, too. No, I How could she get into my stuff if I still had it? If I I had all of my stuff My stuff was up in the closet up in the closet. >> Was there any under your dresser? >> No, ma'am. No, not at all. I don't put nothing under my dresser because she obviously can get it. I put it on the top shelf in my bedroom. Like you I have a top shelf that with a tablet on it and it stays up in the top shelf. >> You keep it on the tablet? >> Yes, ma'am. On the top shelf. Like it's a broken tablet. >> Is it powder? Is it pills? What is it? >> It's powder, but it like comes in like a pill sometimes. But Leanne's and the Betty girl, she was using fentanyl, but I didn't see her use it a lot, you know what I mean? But she was using it all weekend. That was the first time she was using it, so you know what I mean? And then my friend Mario, he wasn't there that night when she passed away, but he uses too, and I don't know if maybe he would have left something, maybe I don't know, he had a straw, or it could be a straw, it could be a piece of paper that it came in before. It could be anything. >> think she had a fair amount. >> Oh, really? >> I think so. >> I didn't know. I was I I I'm trying to I was trying to think of everything. Maybe she found a straw or a piece of paper that had some in it before and she got the residue on her, or maybe she picked something like a bag that maybe it had in there before, like cuz sometimes it comes in a bag. Maybe she picked up accidentally two things, a straw and a piece of paper that that it may have had something on it. That's the only thing I kept thinking of. Maybe she found something with residue on it. But you said if it's a fair amount, then yeah, I think she got it from >> I'm not I don't know what like I don't know what the numbers are, like when, you know, when you have it in your system, what they look like, but I mean the bottom line is it should be all zeros. She should not have that in her body at all. >> Yeah. No, I think I think what I told you is what happened. There is no way. There's no way my baby's alive when I'm alive when I'm awake, but but passed away when I wake up. >> Were you using that day? >> No, I mean, yeah, but I use every day just because my my medical conditions, and but I didn't use No, I don't never use around my daughter, either. Like my daughter's never even been around me when I've ever brought it out. Like I always close the door and make her go out there, you know what I mean? And lock my door. >> But you're high when she's there. >> Mhm, I don't get high. I don't nod out. Like, I just get well. Like, I just get well. I don't nod out. I don't get high. >> I don't know what that means. You just get well. >> Basically, I only do enough to make me not be in pain and I go about my day. I don't do enough to where I fall asleep. You know, what I mean? Like, I don't do that. I just get well. That's why I'm saying there's no way I could have been sleeping all day. I have multiple people that have that are saying that I was not sleep all day and that they seen the baby out in the living room running back and forth. >> Well, yeah. And like, everybody told us that she was out there for a little bit and that she went back in the room, but that you and her were in the bedroom most of the day. >> And well, their stories are changing up now, but no, she was in and out the room all day. She's two. That she she gets in and out of the bed when she wants. She goes in and out of the room when she wants. Like, I have multiple people that can vouch on that as well. Like, they've seen her. Like, when I'm asleep or if I nap or something, she'll go in and out the room. Go in and out with other people. Like, that was what we did. Like, if we nap when her retired, we would nap and we would watch each other's kids. But her kid just wasn't there that night. She made sure to find a babysitter that day. Which I think is weird as well, too. >> She who? >> Leanne. >> She's pregnant. >> Yeah, I know she's pregnant. >> She's she's doing fentanyl when she's pregnant? >> No, she didn't she don't do it now. Oh, no, I'm saying like, I didn't say that. No, I'm saying Leanne, she's done fentanyl before when she lived with me, but she just got pregnant. Like, so she stopped. She's physically pregnant. >> No, she's Well, now maybe now. Now. Now, but back then, when my daughter passed away, no. She was only like, three, four weeks. >> She looked pregnant. >> Yeah, she just really big girl. Like, everyone thought she was pregnant. She just she's got a belly. And she was only like, three or four weeks, not even that then. So, she was using fentanyl, too, but she just stopped. And that's why I was like, of course they're going to leave. Fentanyl's out of your system in 2 days. Like, they're not going to be able to drug test her to see if it's in her system. So, I don't know. I need to drink a water out of this straw. I don't know what to do. I get some water in that. >> Well, I >> I was actually hoping I'd see you when I came down here. I thought I was just going to go talk to a police officer, but >> Well, you are. You're talking to me and Dwayne. >> Well, I know you guys are police officers, but I don't know what to do. You know what I [ __ ] can do now? I just wish they would get in trouble. If I'm getting in trouble for this, I wish they would I wish the [ __ ] who actually did something were in trouble. >> Sweetie, she is your child. >> I know. I understand that. I get that. >> Okay. >> But there's more responsibility than just that. >> She was This is your chance to tell it, but I do You know, I we have done our work. And we believe that you got into fentanyl in your bedroom. >> That's not true. >> But as a parent, you're not supposed to nap all day when your kid's awake. >> I wasn't napping all day. And even if I was napping all day, that's Moms get tired. You know what I mean? >> Sure they do, but >> I didn't nap all day. >> be up when your baby's up. Especially if there's drugs in your home. Especially. >> I understand that. >> She she got into your blunt and ripped it up. >> Yeah. >> And then you spanked her. Like, so she clearly has access to your drugs if she was able to get your blunt and tear it up. >> My blunt was on the side of of my bed. Like, she never really [ __ ] with my weed and weed isn't really an issue. >> It is for a 2-year-old. >> I know. >> You're the person that has to accept responsibility for this. >> And I have. >> I You haven't because you're trying to put blame on other people. She was your responsibility. >> I'm sorry for doing it. I'm sorry for lying to you. I'm sorry that my daughter passed away. Like, I am sorry that your daughter died. You know what I mean? >> I don't think this is something that you ever wanted to happen. And it's horrible and I am sorry that it happened. >> [snorts] >> She certainly deserved better. >> She did. >> [snorts] >> I'm sorry. >> Here you are. But, you know, we're at the point now where there's consequences. >> [snorts] >> And this is the consequence. >> [snorts] >> And there's no way that I'm going to be able to get out? Like, I can't get bonded out and figure it out? >> Well, a judge set your bond. That's not us. But, what is there to figure out? >> [clears throat] >> You said it's not true. >> Mhm? >> You said what I said isn't true, so >> Well, you didn't tell us the truth that night. And I don't know that you're being >> She didn't get into fentanyl in my room. I'm telling you. >> I heard basically just makes you feel better about the fact that your 2-year-old is dead. I don't see any part of this where you've accepted any responsibility or any of it. This is "So-and-so had drugs in my house, which wasn't a shot. >> I just want >> And so-and-so left the drugs out, so I'm not responsible. It's not my fault she's dead." It's solely This all lies on your shoulders. It doesn't matter what you had going on in your house. You were in control of that home. You should have been responsible enough to say, "Hey, you got to go." But you weren't because you were doing the exact same thing. It doesn't make a difference whose drugs it was. It's the fact that there was drugs in your home and your 2-year-old, who should have been watched and parented, got into it. And as a result, she died. And as that result, you're here. And, you know, you can say this >> [snorts] >> "It was somebody else's drugs." If that makes you feel better, it doesn't change anything. But if that makes you feel better, then that's fine. I don't need you to tell me the truth. >> it because it >> It doesn't You don't need to tell me the truth. >> It doesn't make a difference. >> I want them to be in jail as well. If I'm going to be in jail, and I understand that this is my fault because I had them around. But I'm saying this because I want something to happen to them as well. >> And if we maybe could have addressed that that night. >> If we had known. >> [snorts] >> But you lied and covered it up, so that's the result. >> I still say that they They don't get in trouble. >> know who they are. >> The other people in the house. They all lied as well. >> I think my life is in danger. >> I don't Does he have to be in here? Can I just talk to you? >> Who you talking to? >> You and this Miss Allen. >> What? Do I have to be in here? I'm sorry, am I hurting your feelings? >> You can talk to me. >> What do you want to tell me? >> Hm? I've already did everything and you got you're not I don't matter. >> [snorts] >> Well, you asked if you could talk to me and not him and I'm telling you that you can. >> I mean, is he allowed to leave the room? >> No, he's going to stay in here. >> Okay, well then. >> [snorts] >> Is there something you want to tell me that you don't want him to hear? >> Everything. >> Okay. >> I mean, this isn't personal. I can step out of the room. I'll step out. >> Okay. >> Okay, here you need anything? >> Okay. >> There's no more water. >> No, thanks. Will you get her one though? Thanks. >> Okay, it's just us. >> He's just being a dick about it. You know what I mean? It's not cool. Like >> We have different styles of talking to people sometimes and >> Like my feelings are so hurt because my daughter's passed away and it's not that I'm trying to point fingers and it's not that I'm trying to make it not be my fault. It's just I wish more would be done. You know what I mean? >> [snorts] >> I don't know what the [ __ ] I'm doing. This is not fair. I wish a lawyer would be here. >> Okay, well, if you want a lawyer here then >> No, I just I don't want him. >> Then we won't talk about it anymore. But you are pointing fingers. >> I just wish me telling you what was going on that night would get something done because it's not it's just still going to be all on me. So it just did to me it just don't I don't understand why I have to talk about it again if you guys already made your decision on what you're going to do. >> The time [snorts] to tell us what was going on in your house was that night. >> I know. >> We We don't have anything to implicate the other people that were there. >> What's that mean? >> We don't have anything um that says it was somebody else's drugs. It all points towards you. >> they said I was in the room all day. >> You said you're in the room all day also. >> I was I mean I was but like in and out but that don't mean my daughter got into my drugs in my room. I'm telling you that's not what happened. >> Where it looks from where I'm sitting, okay? Is you have fentanyl in your home. And you keep your marijuana right there where she can get it. So if you're doing drugs you could have put that anywhere and she could have gotten it and you even said it could be have been on a piece of paper or a baggie or something which which tells me that you're careless with >> No, I mean if the Oreo was there it could have been on a piece of paper or in a straw. >> But sweetie, it is your home. >> I know but >> your responsibility to make sure that there are things that are >> [snorts] >> that things that are dangerous to her she cannot get to. Just like you keep cleaning supplies somewhere else where she can't get them and drink them. You should certainly do it with drugs, drug paraphernalia, drug packaging, anything like that. It shouldn't be in your home first of all but the reality is that it was there, right? So um I understand that this seems like it's not fair but really what's fair is what happened, thank you to Alaia, right? That's what's not fair. >> I know. >> Okay. >> So, what do we do from here? >> You go to the Justice Center. You have um You're charged with involuntary manslaughter and felony endangering children. So, you'll go to arraignment [snorts] probably tomorrow morning. >> Do you know what my bond is? >> No. >> I mean, they they don't have one yet. >> Right. But, you have a felony of the first degree, which is the highest felony and a felony of the third degree. >> Why? >> Because that's >> they charging me with that hard of a charge when it wasn't mine? >> So, >> Like, I understand >> that's charging you, okay? >> Yeah, I understand that. I understand everything that's happening. >> Okay. >> I do. And I understand why why you said it's why it's my fault. Why You know what I mean? Why I'm getting these charges, but I just don't understand why it's got to be that hard on me when it really wasn't my drugs. I got lots of people that can vouch for me, I swear I do. Because I You know what I mean? She couldn't have gotten into drugs in my room if it if I still You know what I mean? I know for a fact she didn't. I know for a 100% fact >> I know that you in your heart you want that to be true. >> No, I know for a fact. >> I wish that was true for you. >> No, I know. I know for a 100% fact because there's nothing that she could have gotten into. I searched that room. I did. I went on my own and I searched it. >> that it was our job to do that? And you should have said that night >> I do get that. I understand >> Okay. Okay. >> So, I'm getting charged with that because I didn't say it that night? >> No, you're getting charged with it because your daughter died. >> I know, but um if I'm getting charged that hard because I didn't say it that night? >> No, that's it's just what the charge is. >> I just think that I think that she got into it and they put her in the bed with me. It's just weird. Like, a lot of people think that. >> Well, if you weren't um conscious enough to know that that happened, then that's a problem. So, >> at That had to have been like 8:00 or 9:00 when she said she came in my room and checked on me. >> You should have been awake when your daughter's awake. >> I was. And >> So, if you want to look at this, you can cuz I want you to understand your charge cuz you're saying why am I charged that hard. >> No, I know. I'm just asking about that. And you guys you really I I know you try. I know you really try to understand, but you don't understand. >> I um Nothing that I say to you comes from a place of judgement, okay? I'm a mom. Um I think it's fair to say that you and I come from different backgrounds. And I don't have the problems that you have. >> [snorts] >> Um but I was very young when I became a mom. I was 20. >> I was 18. >> And it was really really hard. And um sure there was lots of times when I just wanted to, um, you know, escape my life. But I never did anything and I didn't do I I didn't do drugs the way that you do, but like if I wanted to drink with my friends or drink by myself, I never did it when my children were there because it they were my responsibility and they depended on me and they trusted me to keep them safe. >> I know I do have a drug issue and I have a habit issue, but I didn't pick this [ __ ] up for fun. >> I don't think you did. >> You know what I mean? I didn't >> think you did. >> I did it because my pain and my stomach issues and I still haven't even got it all figured out, you know what I mean? >> But honey, those are things that you go to a doctor for and you get medicine for and you keep going to your doctor and you use legal medicine. >> I know and I and I've been trying to go to the doctors. It's just they haven't figured out what's wrong with me yet and that's why I've still been doing it because of the pain and the, you know what I mean, of the issues and I only do it when I'm in pain. >> I don't [clears throat] believe that. I don't think that's true. And I'm not judging. I'm just >> That's why I said I only do it to get well. Like I don't not I don't not at all. I don't do that. No, my friend does. I don't like to do that [ __ ] You know what I mean? I just do it to get well and I've been meaning to get clean, but I've been trying to figure out what was going on with my daughter first. >> I don't really have a response for that because, um, have you ever heard the saying too little, too late? >> Yeah, yeah. >> Okay. That's kind of how that feels. >> But also, where am I going to be going because in about, what time is it? >> 10:40. >> In about 6 hours, I'm going to be deathly sick. >> You'll be at the jail. >> I know. >> So, they're, um, familiar with, you know, people that come there that have addiction and you'll talk to a nurse and you need to tell her those things. >> That's what I was That's what my dad told me. He said when If this does happen, you need to tell them that you're going to be deathly sick, and I need to I need to get You know what I mean? >> Yeah, so when you go, you'll um You've never been there. So, you go in and you'll get your picture taken, you'll get fin- fingerprinted. They're going to search you. So, if you have anything on you, it is in your best interest to take care of that now before you go to the jail because they'll charge you with conveyance if you take any drugs into the jail. >> No, no, no. I don't have any weapons. >> Okay. Um [snorts] Nothing in your body? >> No. >> Okay. >> I know. I know. >> Okay. >> I know. >> All right, cuz they'll find it. >> Yeah, I know. >> They have like an X-ray thing, and um a female deputy will >> Okay. >> Okay. Um And then at that point, you can tell the deputy that you would like to speak to a nurse and if they don't offer it to you. But >> Are there diff- I don't know if you know or not. My dad said at the Justice Center, they have different floors for for that stuff. He said that they might put me on a medical floor. My dad's number is right? Oh. >> Okay. >> Um I need to call him ASAP as soon as I can. Um >> [snorts] >> I don't know about putting you on a medical floor. I don't know about any of that part, but What's your [snorts] phone number? Um do you want your dad as next of kin on here? >> Yes, please. >> Okay. And tell me his name again. >> Randy Miller. >> And his phone number? >> Um >> Okay. >> [snorts] >> When will I be able to make a phone when you get to the Justice Center? Actually, give me 1 second. I'll be right back. >> Just tell me the >> Mhm? >> I was told there's no way I can make a call in here. Um >> What do you need to um make a call for? >> Just I need to let my dad know what's happening, what's going on. >> You can do that when you get there. Okay. If you need to write his phone number on your hand or something, do that, please. Just um they have phones down in intake. So, once you get your picture taken and all that stuff, um you just [snorts] you'll be waiting and you'll be able to call him from there. >> What is the day of the week? >> It's Thursday. >> Can I use one of these pens really fast? >> Mhm. What are you going to write on? >> Um I was going to write on this little piece of paper right there and let me keep it with me. >> I don't know that they will. >> He said there there should be that you said the judge shouldn't put up money. The judge The judge The judge should put a bond on out? >> Um the judge determines the amount of the bond, yes. >> Okay. Is it usually the same for everything? >> Mhm. No. >> What do they go off of? >> What you're charged with, your criminal history, which you don't have any. Um Okay. If you have a history of not showing up for court or do you have a record anywhere else? Have you ever lived anywhere else? >> I've never had any No, nothing. >> Okay. Nothing as a juvenile either, right? >> No, ma'am. >> [snorts] >> And I've lived in other states, but I've never been in trouble anywhere. >> What high school did you go to? >> Um a bunch of different ones, but I don't know if Cincinnati or here >> Ohio, I went to Seven Hills in Ohio in the place. >> Oh, okay. >> [snorts] >> So, um we are um just waiting for a uniform car to come pick you up. And they'll take you to the jail. So, if you have any questions for me, feel free to ask them. If you have questions about what's going to go on there, I'll try to answer them. >> What is going to go on there? >> Um well, like when you when the police car gets there, they drive into the back of the jail. There's a big gate and everything. It's all secure. They'll walk you inside. You'll be in this little lobby. Um you'll go up to the little window. They'll take your pictures there. Um and uh a fingerprint. And at some point when you then you go and you get searched. >> Are you sure Are Are people going to be mean to me in there? >> No. Do what you're told. They're not friendly. >> Are you sure people aren't going to be mean to me? >> Like the deputies? >> That and people in general. >> Oh, I don't know. But what about the >> Why do you think they would be mean to you? >> Cuz everybody always says when you go to jail, people are they they hurt you and [ __ ] So, I ain't going to lie, I'm scared as [ __ ] >> I would be scared. It's not a place that I would want to be. >> Yeah, and especially because I'm going to be detoxing. Like I'm scared as [ __ ] >> Well, I think that they have like >> [snorts] >> I think they do things to help you. That's why I'm telling you you need to talk to a nurse and tell her that. Him or her. I don't Whoever the nurse is, you need to tell them that. That is a problem and that's not an unfamiliar thing for them. I don't know what they do, what they can do. Um my advice to you would be to do exactly what the deputies tell you. Don't have an attitude. Um and then just stick to yourself. Okay? >> And do you think with these kind of charges that I would be able to be bonded out? >> I think it's It's to depend on whether your family has money or can get the money. >> Okay. But I don't know what it's going to be. I don't have any idea. >> I was just about to say, do you think you could guess, but it's all right. >> No, I mean and honestly like I usually charge people with murder and involuntary manslaughter is different. >> You said you usually charge them with murder? >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Yeah, and then >> What is involuntary manslaughter? >> It is just simply >> Means I was involved. >> It means you caused the death of your daughter. >> Okay. >> [snorts] >> I thought it meant like I was involved in in the death. >> Um it doesn't mean that like you you abused her and killed her or you shot her or something like that. It just means that um >> You're responsible. >> You're responsible for it. And so then there's a um child endangerment charge and that is um simply that you failed to um create a safe place for her. You violated a duty of care. Um you know, by having the drugs in your home where she could access them. >> Do you know um like of other people that have been charged with those before? Do you know what their bond was? >> I do not. >> Do I still have to go to court and plead guilty and stuff? >> Mhm. >> What How is that going to go? Like what if I get not guilty? >> So when you go to arraignment, you'll have an attorney there. That's where the judge sets your bond. I'm sure your attorney will have you plead not guilty. >> Yeah, of course. >> Um and so then I go to grand jury. And that's me testifying in front of people that are on jury duty. So whenever we charge someone with a felony, you know, we have to go to court to grand jury and present our case, the facts of the case. The grand jury votes and says yes, you have enough probable cause to proceed or no, you don't. Um we have enough probable cause, so I'm >> If I was able to get witnesses to say that proof that >> I don't know. Let's talk to my attorney about that. >> Yes, that's what I was going to say. That stuff you talk to your lawyer about, okay? Um So then once I go to grand jury, and it'll be probably sometime next week, then then I'm >> Sometime next week, I'm going to be halfway through detox, and I might not be able to go long enough to go. >> You don't come to grand jury. It's just me. And then >> Wait. What? Wait. >> You don't come to grand jury. So once you're indicted, then you'll have court dates, and your attorney will either have you come to the court date or he or she won't. >> You don't know if my attorney will go for me? >> To grand jury? >> Yeah. >> No, there's no defense attorney there. It's just the prosecutor, a police officer, and the people on jury duty. That's where they vote and say yes >> they do it in the real world? Don't they put the people on the stand and talk? >> You'll have that chance later. >> In front of the jury? >> If you want. And your attorney can explain all that to you. You can um have a trial, and you can have a jury or a bench trial, which means that there wouldn't be a jury, it would just be the judge. >> Okay. But it'll be my choice? >> Yeah. You and your attorney You and your attorney will discuss that. Um your attorney will get all the evidence that we have in the case. >> Are there attorneys already at the justice center? >> Um no. Well, for their clients, you won't get an attorney until you go to arraignment court. And when you go there will be a lawyer there. The lawyer that's at arraignment probably will not be your attorney on your case, but the judge will appoint one. >> How long do I have to wait to get a judge? I mean to get a a lawyer. >> I'm not sure. I don't I don't know. But if your family can hire one, your family can also hire an attorney. >> They put the handcuffs on me way too tight. >> Did they? >> Yeah, it was on my on my bone right here and I and then >> It looks like it was on your bracelet. >> And my bracelets were down but it was on my bone. I broke one of my wrists this bone and my bone hurt so bad. You think they'll let me keep this in the jail? >> No. You don't have Is your hair Do you work anywhere? Do you have a car? >> I did but not anymore. >> Do you have any other questions? All right. You hungry? Do you need a snack? You sure? Cuz I don't I can't >> [clears throat] >> I can't I'll end up throwing it up. >> I'll try and find crackers or pretzels or something cuz I don't You're not going to make lunch. >> Okay. >> All right. I'll be out here if you need something. Just knock on the door. Do you need the bathroom? >> No, I don't think I can go in there. >> We'll just wait. I'll just know if you want to go before you head up to the jail. Let me know. Depending on how busy the district is, that's how long it takes for a car to get here. So, I don't know how long it'll be. >> Is there usually a way I can make a call off your phone? >> Mhm. >> [ __ ] I just wish I I just need somebody to talk to right now. I just >> Do you want me to stay in here? >> Um if you want. I'd rather not be alone by myself, to be honest. >> Okay. I'll sit in here. Let me just try to explain something. >> I was wrong. All right. >> What? >> I said if you you're just ready, I'll come and find you. >> Yes. >> Yeah. You got female also? >> No, I No. >> All right, Bethany. Your officers are here. She's going to search you, okay? Just stand up. Just do everything we ask you to do and same thing at the jail. >> Search. >> I didn't think that's going to poke you or stab me. >> No, ma'am. >> Those are numbers. >> Yeah. Uh Oh, that's your fingers. I got you. >> Yeah. I was like, why can't I find my fingers? >> Put your hands together like this, Daphne. >> You done in a minute? >> Yep. >> What you want me to write? >> Uh I'm going to try to grab them. >> I got six. So, we'll be coming right back. >> Yeah, that's why they have us They have us do it like this. Ow. In the academy, they changed it up. Yeah, they they have them here. Oh my god. >> I got all those six out of seven already done. >> All right. You're lucky you don't have to ask for me wrist. You okay? Try another one. Don't have any more cuz I >> Okay. >> Uh-huh. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. And I can have you lean on a little bit. Ow. I'm straight up. You want to hold on? >> I'm at the door. Stand where we can. All right. >> Yeah, be careful. >> Bethany Miller-Williams was charged that day with involuntary manslaughter and child endangering. The judge set her bond at $150,000. In June of 2025, she pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter, endangering children, and tampering with evidence. Two further charges were dismissed. Prosecutors told the court that she had found her daughter playing with fentanyl, that she put her in a crib and went to sleep, that she waited about 2 hours before calling 911, and that she flushed the drugs before officers arrived. On the 9th of July, 2025, Judge Robert Goring sentenced her to a minimum of 6 years in prison and as many as nine. If you value real police interrogations, critical moments, and the investigative strategies that uncover the truth, subscribe to Evidence Lab Interrogation and turn on notifications so you don't miss the next interrogation. Until next time, stay observant because in the interrogation room, every word matters.