cuz you know so I know I'm on the I was on the FBI uh terrorist watch list >> and they they came to his house and I talked to him so we just followed my security >> okay you're a young guy why are you on the terrorist watch list >> before detectives asked about the stabbing Cory Johnson raised something else first the FBI >> what do you mean was >> I killed him where >> how >> on March 12th, 2018, Palm Beach Gardens police were questioning 17-year-old Cory Benjamin Johnson after a sleepover at Balon Isles ended with Giovanni Sierra dead and two others wounded. >> First of all, let me make sure I got your full name right. I know we spoke out at the scene briefly when I asked you what your name was. Spell your name for me. C O R E Y. [clears throat] Uh, Benjamin, you need the middle name spell. >> Yes, your full legal name. >> B E N J A M I N. >> Okay. >> J O H N S. >> Okay. Cor Corey Benjamin Johnson. What's your date of birth? >> June 27th, 2000. >> Okay. Cory, where do you live? >> I live in 135 Cape Point Circle. 135 Cape Point Circle in Jupiter. Where is that generally? I'm not that familiar with the city. >> It's in the bluffs. It's right near Juno. >> Near Juno Beach. So like by A1A and the beach. >> It's on It's Marinski and uh I think it's US one. >> Okay. I know where that is. So how old are you today? >> I'm 17. >> Okay. Um what's the last grade school you completed? I was completed. >> What are you in now? You're enrolled now. What are you in? >> I I was in 11th grade at Dwire, but I dropped out. I'm going to take online school. And I've been sleeping different places. Sometimes I slept at uh Sunset where I got arrested. And um sometimes I slept. One time I slept at my grandma's house and every uh all the other times I slept at I broke into this uh abandoned plaza like it's like a warehouse. I've been sleeping there. >> Okay. So you because of your difficulties with your mom's boyfriend, you've kind of been out on the streets a bit sleeping away from home. Where does grandma live? >> She lives in >> What's her name? >> Uh Joanne. She goes by Jodie. But um yeah. And so today I was I was going to go to work. I work at I work at Windex State and I was a stalker. >> Which one? The one on Northway? >> No, it's on military. Uh it's by a CVS and a Jimmy John's. I don't not too busy with the road me. >> Okay. Um, I was going to go there today, but my bike got stolen. So, I just decided to walk to a I was at um the the abandoned plaza I was sleeping in it that's that's around the area over there. Um, it's at it's military. No, no, no. It's not military. It's it's US1. It's a McDonald's on a US one. It's near Publiclix and a melting pot. >> Okay. I know what you're talking about. It's almost near Juno. >> So, let's get back to downtown yesterday. You're there last last evening, right? What time? >> So, I So, I walked from there cuz my bike got stolen. I wasn't going to go to work. >> Mhm. And so I just walked to downtown with you. >> Did you go to a movie? Do you go to a restaurant? Did you just walk around? >> We We were mostly walking around, but it was someone's birthday today. Um he's the kid that slept over my house. The one the one that slept over with me. >> We ate there cuz today's his what? Today was his birthday. with my >> What room in the house? >> It was at the top of the stairs. >> Second floor. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And >> what happened? >> Oh, so yeah, we the mom picked us up and dropped us off at the house from from downtown >> with the intent what? To have a sleepover? >> Yes. >> Okay. Have you been sleeping over there previous to last night? >> Yes, I've done it multiple times. >> Okay. So there's a sleepover. >> No, everything was fine. They just uh they were listening to music and they were using Jewel, which is a vape and just just normal stuff for their age, I guess. >> What's Jewel? >> It's just It's just a little USB size thing. It's like a vape. >> Yeah. Was there anything in it? Nicotine. >> Just nicotine. >> Okay. So, when you say they, who are we talking about? >> Everyone. >> So, you that's it. Just those three >> and yourself. Okay. Um, everybody sharing the vape, listening to music. >> Yes. >> Okay. What happens? >> Um, nothing happens. They go to bed. >> Okay. Then what happens? >> You do your thing. What is that? Be specific for me. I wasn't there. >> Comfortable. >> Did he have an argument with you? >> He was asleep. >> Did he insult you in any way? >> Not personally. >> Did he insult the thumbn? No, but he was one of the main um like the biggest sin you could do is called sh and um it could either translate to polytheism or idolatry. >> Mhm. >> And like just like ascribing false gods. I can use calling people gods. actors. >> Did he say that to you? >> Just general. He was talking to me and Dane. >> Mhm. >> And he's sleeping at the top of the stairs. >> Yeah. >> Which is outside of whose bedroom? >> The area. And then there's a hallway and it leads to their two bedrooms. They're right next to each other. >> Okay. So around what time did he make those statements? >> Just um >> like earlier in downtown or while you were hanging out? >> He was at the house. >> It was at the house time. >> Did he know that he >> did he know that he was insulting? >> No. >> Okay. Would it have made you upset? >> That's what everyone does know. It's just I'm used to hearing stuff like that. Didn't make me enraged or anything. Just I acknowledged it. How did you acknowledge it? >> Just in my head. I didn't say anything. >> You didn't want to try and convince them or show them your point of view? >> No, because people like that generally don't. The other day, I think maybe three days ago at this point, it's it's tomorrow. So, so I guess three days ago, I was also at down laughing at me. >> That must have made you angry. >> Yes. >> Make me angry. >> And >> did they say anything? >> No, they're just standing there laughing. >> You never knew him beforehand? >> I've heard about him. I just met him today. Okay. yesterday. >> I don't know. I know that there's people there with injuries. Okay. So, that's why we're trying to find out everything. Um, you said you didn't try and convince him. Did he know about your religious beliefs? Did he know how strongly you felt? No, I hide it because because the people my best friend pretty much my only well was my only friend and uh and he doesn't follow Islam but um he respects it and he doesn't make fun at all. He He doesn't say anything directly to my face, but I know how he feels. He thinks it's weird and he thinks it's uh part of the prayer. You put your forehead on the ground. He's like, "Why are you doing that?" >> He's only 13, though. I mean, you >> He's a lot more mature than >> is it? just talking about what he did with barrels like on weed and all that kind of stuff. >> Okay. So, I want to get back and say sleep. >> Yes. >> What do you do? >> Well, you're recording me and I don't want to say anything. >> Okay. Uh, I want you to feel honest. I want you to be able to tell me what happened. You said you killed him. Um, you said with a knife. I want to know how what happened. Where did you get was it your own? >> Um, when I was at the the McDonald's, there's a Publix pretty much across the street. So, right before I was going to work for Wind Dixie, I walked there to to Publix and just to I bought um I bought some dates, I bought a drink, and I bought a 6 in utility kitchen knife, which is >> You mean like like a box cutter knife or a kitchen knife? Like just a straight edge? >> It's called a utility knife. It's just a straight edge. I don't know why they call it utility knife. It's kind of like a combination between a chef's knife and a ping knife. >> So like an allaround kitchen knife. No serrated blade, no folding, it's just soft. Okay. So why do you buy the knife? >> Um it was for self-defense, I guess. Just just wanted to >> other friend had a knife. I forget his name. I think it's Jimmy, I think. >> Okay. So, do you keep that with you? I You have a >> I bought it today and I was wearing those I don't know if you saw I was wearing black pants and they're >> I didn't see >> puffed at the bottom and they really baggy up at the top. So, I had these really big pockets and I just dipped that in there. >> Is it one of these that comes with like a plastic sheet on it? >> Yeah, I had it had a plastic sheet. I left it in the in the bathroom with my lawn. >> You left the knife? No, because after I I went downstairs, call the police, I ran to the computer room and I originally was in the bathroom and I took out my wallet and the knife sheet. I had the knife in my hand >> and I left them in the in the bathroom, but for some reason I decided to go to the the closet just a little bit away. That's where I hid until >> um what what was going through your mind? What were you thinking when he's sleeping on the floor? Um, is it all the insults to Islam that have kind of built up? >> Well, no, it's not even that. It's just that's one of the reasons, but just I guess Yeah, I guess. >> Well, you tell me. I want you to be able to express what you feel. I mean, he's asleep, so he There obviously wasn't an altercation at that moment. So, >> what do you think? just I know he's a he's a he's not a good person. >> You could say >> he's not a good person. He he does weed. He uh does stuff with girls. Um fornication and um today's was his birthday. He just turned 13 and uh just a bad person overall. And then he went and said people are said people are whatever or gods or godlike or something like that. So just all that stuff together >> and you were thinking about that. >> Yeah. >> Um were you supposed to be sleeping in one room and you came out? What room were you supposed to be sleeping in? >> No, I wasn't supposed to be sleeping anywhere. I mean everyone fell asleep in different the floor and the top >> on the top of the landing the steps. >> You go up the stairs. There's an area that's >> And where were you? >> Okay. >> I was just painting until I decided to go. >> Okay. >> Um and the knife is still in your pocket when you leave the the room the bedroom. Yes. >> Okay. Um, do you take the sheath off in the bedroom? >> I had it on and off just cuz I went out there and I was like, "No, I probably shouldn't do this." >> Okay. And how did you do it? >> Um, well, I I He was sleeping and I think I had the knife on Steve and I stabbed him in the stomach. And then he woke up and started screaming and then I don't know exactly what happened after that. >> Did you stab him again? >> Yeah, I stabbed him a bunch of time. >> Okay. Where? >> Everywhere. Mostly in the neck and stomach. >> And what was he doing? >> He was screaming, trying to save him. >> Um, was he battling with his hands? Was he telling you to stop? Was he calling for help? >> Yeah. >> All those things. Um, do you know if his arms got cut at all when he was trying to fight you off? >> I don't know. >> Was he calling for >> I know what happened. >> She was just saying, "What's going on? What's going on? You guys are scaring me." And then she eventually came up the stairs and I lunged at her and she fell down the stairs and I don't know she was on the floor. So I guess she ran outside and I guess she called the police from there. >> Okay. >> And I ran back up and I started attacker. Yeah, she got cut >> where? >> I don't know. >> Okay. Um, so she goes downstairs or out of the house? >> I don't know. She was left laying on the floor and he said he's scared. >> Okay. >> Okay. How >> stab him in the stomach, I think. >> Okay. How many times did you just tell him? >> Okay. And then what happens? >> I don't know. >> Why? >> Just because I was on. >> Were you able to stab him? >> Okay. And then what happens? to go and mess with them and say all these stuff. >> Go ahead. Sure. Like what? We never said this exactly, but I can't think of any examp But but I want you to get up and I want you to forget what I call him. I want you to just be healthy and I want you to accept Islam. I want you to be safe. >> You want him to convert? >> Yes. >> So that he could be saved. >> And what did he say? >> He didn't say anything. He didn't believe me. He was just sitting on the bed. And then and then I opened the door and he and you could I I think throat was slice blood all over the carpet and then I think you're just kind of sitting on the bed in shock and then >> he was dead at that point. >> He was dead at that point. >> Lying on his on the air bed bleeding. >> Did he make any sounds calling for help? talk quietly. >> Who's he calling? >> Just like making noises. Not just noises. >> Okay. >> I don't think he was calling. >> You're talking to him. What's his response, Steve? >> Well, he just woke up, so I think he was half awake and then he was just kind of sitting on the bed in disbelief. And then like he thought he was jo I was joking because we always joke around with them. remember then like once you saw them like there were no lights in the room but I guess eventually saw my my hand my hands were all bloody my whole arms all my clothes were soaked in blood and just probably on my face too and he started and ling his body and he started realizing that everything's fine or not fine everything's uh real I wasn't lying looking out the door. >> I don't know if he saw it, but you can see it from where he was. I don't know if he saw >> So then what happens? You're you're asking him to convert. Um >> I just I just I didn't expect a response from him because I always try to I always talk to him and say, "Hey, you need to convert. I want you to be saved. I want you to go to uh heaven, paradise, whatever you want to call it. >> And um and he just he's like I think he's he was getting kind of interested and then like but he didn't really want to say I guess he really likes bacon or something good bacon. >> Is that the response you were surprised by? >> No. And he didn't want to pray five was my best friend. So I don't I didn't want to attack them and I think like with words like saying hey it can't be your friend. >> The first account is now on the record. The next questions test why the knife was there why that moment and whether self-defense explains what he has just described. >> Cory I I guess um I understand what happened. Um why now? I'm hoping you can help us understand like in the past. Is that right? >> Yeah. But she she she's always had problems with me and she's texting before I stay over and she talks about how she doesn't like me and she she thinks I'm bad person, bad influence. >> Why? >> She I don't think she likes Islam. >> Has she insulted Islam before? >> No. Well, not really. I mean, she's she's talked about like, "Oh, you should come to church." Like, "Oh, you don't need to go to the um just because you're Muslim, you could you could still go to church, right, and learn about Jesus and stuff like that." Just nothing like insulting, but I don't know if she's just being she's just ignorant or >> How do you feel about that? >> I just said no, I wouldn't like to go. That was the end of it. But how'd you feel about it? >> Just uh >> did it make you angry? >> No. Didn't really affect me. I didn't want to know. >> I mean, you told me. >> I'm just trying to figure out why you would attack him first if he the person you met the most recently. >> Because um he was just the easiest. walked downstairs in her room laying on the floor. >> Had you been speaking about your beliefs at all earlier on the night and the conversation didn't go well? You got mad and that's when you planned to do it when they went to sleep. >> I didn't talk about beliefs. When you bought the knife, did you have it in mind that you would hurt the next person that insulted you or religion? >> Um, well, I was thinking for self-defense, but I was thinking like if anyone if anything like this happens, at least I have it. So, >> it was mostly for self-defense, especially since my bike got stolen and I saw some kids that might have done it. And I flashed the knife and they all ran away. But, um, that was yesterday. And but I I guess I was maybe in the back of my mind thinking I could do something like this, but I wasn't that wasn't the main plan. >> Did you have a location in mind? Maybe other than the house or other than these people? >> Just anyone. >> Maybe people were more strangers or what was going through your mind? >> Just anyone. When you went to public yesterday, what were you wearing? >> What? I got arrested in. I was wearing a maroon t-shirt and a rib cuff. I don't know what kind of pants they kind of sweatpants. See, they had like an elastic waist and a black sweatpants. >> I bought them from Urban Outfitters is the only All the other all the only other things I wear are jeans and khakis. So those are the only kind of thing I got from there. Just so I was just trying to fit in by buying those. Just look like everyone else. >> Do you keep up keep in contact with anybody from the mosque there? >> No. >> How many times did you go there? >> A lot. It was just over the summer though, so I don't know. I didn't keep counting anything. >> Did you go to David? >> Well, >> well, I'm not familiar. How many how much do they encourage you to go? >> Well, you're supposed to go every Friday. >> Every Friday. >> But um that's like the the holy day when Christians have the uh the Sunday. >> Mhm. >> And um but they also had these classes where they just taught about um Islamic studies and um they were on Monday, Wednesday and and Friday and I I sometimes attended those. Oh, okay. And you didn't meet anybody there that you became friendly with? >> I was always friendly with uh Sharif the the president. >> But um >> did he teach these classes? >> He taught sometimes when the imam wasn't there. The imam's like the priest, >> right? >> And um so when he wasn't there, Sharif taught it. But besides that, he just uh he was he was always around, but he didn't always teach the classes. [clears throat] >> Jury. >> Oh, sure. >> You mentioned um it made you angry and you you were glad you had the knife when your bike was stolen. You flashed at some kids. You said it was yesterday. >> Yes. >> Where was that? >> It was at the plaza cuz I had my bike locked to a tree. Mhm. >> I came back and it wasn't there and the lock was on the ground. It looked like somebody smashed it and it broke and they took the bike and I saw see kids acting suspicious. It was it was four kids and uh I started like heading their direction and then one of them was like, "Hey, what's up? You good?" or something like that. And I pulled the knife out of my pocket just to show them. I kept it close to my side and they all ran away. So, >> were they about your age? Younger than you? Older? >> About my age? about your age. Was that the abandoned plaza or is that the plaza you work in? >> The abandoned pl your bike was gone. >> Yes. >> Had that made you angry throughout the day? >> No, it was just it was I wasn't really upset or angry. I just couldn't go to work though. But I was actually headed >> that would make me angry if someone stole my bike. I was I was heading to work on foot, but I wasn't even halfway there and it was already I was already like 30 minutes late, so I decided to uh was he was at the downtown, so I just decided to head there instead. >> You walked there? >> Yes. So, I want to try and just have you explain to me again the incidents in the in the house when first he hadn't attacked you physically, right? You weren't there was no physical self-defense to me personally. >> Okay. And no one no one had attacked you personally. And you didn't pre-plan this, like when the time is right, I'm going to use my knife and and and hurt them. Can you describe to me now what you were thinking? What made you take those actions then? >> Well, I just I wanted to I wanted to hurt some disbelievers for what they've done. And so and then then everyone I was just on my phone and I noticed everyone was asleep so I figured I guess now's a good time. >> Were you talking to somebody? Were you reading scripture or what? >> I was just watching YouTube videos like unrelated. And then right before I decided I was thinking maybe I might do this. I was reading uh just random verses being put on. >> When you say you were looking at YouTube uh videos unrelated, what were you looking at? >> Just uh it was just like a comedy videos really. There's a YouTube group called Great A. I was just watching his videos unrelated to >> and at some point you switched to reading verses from the Quran. Well, I was watching that and then I kept then I then I switched from that to some language videos because I like languages and linguistics. >> Okay. >> And after after I watched a couple of linguistics videos, um that's when I noticed everyone was asleep and I was thinking maybe I should do this. And >> what time was that? Do you remember from your phone? around four. >> Oh, you guys stayed up all night. >> What at what point do you start reading scripture? Right after that, after they go to sleep. >> After they go to sleep and I go out out at the top of the stairs. >> Mhm. >> And I was thinking I don't know how hard it is to kill someone with a knife. And I was just thinking I was just trying to get some motivation I guess for reading. >> Did it help? >> What specifically? >> What do you mean >> verses? What? >> Well, I wasn't reading any verses like related to it. It was just about It's about Moses. It wasn't anything to do with what I did or any blindness or anything. It's just they called me. >> I'm not real versed in the religion. So, I'm going to ask a question and you you just tell me yes or no. Was there any type of um formal or mental decision on your part to uh hurt disbelievers in general like prior to that time or was that just impulsive? Like at the moment? >> It wasn't impulsive. I knew I wanted to eventually hurt some in Arabic called kufar. The singular is caffer disbeliever. >> And what does that mean? What's the translation? >> Disbeliever. >> Disbeliever. >> It's caffa. >> Cather is the singular kufar. Okay. >> And how does it >> translate to disbeliever? >> And how long ago did you know that you wanted to hurt some disbelievers? >> Long time. Just >> a year. >> Yeah. I mean a couple months after I converted I guess when I started learning about the religion properly. >> Okay. Do you feel that took part or had anything to do with what happened last night or early this morning? >> Um well I guess because I didn't don't really care about my life. I figured if I died from the police then doesn't really matter. >> Why? >> Cuz I don't really feel like I wanted to be alive because I don't enjoy life. And that's been mostly since 2018 or was it earlier than that? >> Always. >> A second investigator resets the interview and moves from reconstruction into public safety questions, contacts, ideology, and whether anyone else was involved. Are you doing it again? the honor. All right. Y >> So, I know you've already done this with uh Miranda warnings with with the police. It's just a formality. Uh they said you've been cooperating and talking. We appreciate that. I even said you have a story to tell. But, uh so I'm going to read this to you. Maybe sign something here. But uh you the the right to remain silent, not to answer any questions. Uh tell me in your own words what you think this means. >> I don't have to say anything. >> Okay, great. Any statements you make must be freely and voluntarily given. Tell me in your own words what you think about this. >> I have to do it by my own free will. >> Absolutely. You have the right to representation of a lawyer of your choice before you make any statement and during the questioning. You understand that? >> Yes. >> Okay. You cannot [clears throat] afford a lawyer entitled to the to the presence or representation of a court appointed lawyer before you make any statements during this questioning. You understand that? >> Yes. >> Okay. At any time in the interview, do you not wish to answer any questions, you are privileged to remain silent. You understand? >> Mhm. >> Um I can make no threats, no promises to induce you to make a statement. This is on your own free will. You understand that? >> Yes. >> Any statement can and be will against used against you in the court of law. You understand that? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, so I need you to uh just sign this. You can read. You're not on drugs. You're not on anything right now. You're not uh drunk. >> Okay. I'm just going to have you sign. Uh you can read this and then uh you can sign right there and we can take any statements you want from us. So the front front side is actually the uh and this is what I just read to you. both. >> Just sign that right there. That's fine. >> Yeah, that's fine. This way you can tell us your story, what's going on, get your message out. All right. No, I understand. I understand. >> Okay. >> So, we're going to go over a few things here today. >> Mhm. >> Most importantly, and probably the most urgent, I need to know if you were in contact with anybody else. >> But are you a part of ISIS? Do you pledge your support to ISIS? your allegiance. >> Have you ever talked to anybody from ISIS that you believe? >> No. >> Who do you pledge your support to? >> Kayla. >> Sorry, say that again. >> Kayla. >> Okay. I talked to you a year ago. >> You told me you converted. You took the shahada in your bedroom, right? He also told me that, you know, you believed in the Quran and believed in being a good Muslim. In fact, after I spoke to you, it sound like your grandmother was driving you to a mosque to actually get an education at the mosque and not self-educate on the on the internet. What happened? >> Well, I was I had to ride my bike there. I wasn't doing everything. And then once school started, I just stopped going because I didn't have time. >> Okay. But when would you say I mean when did you start supporting extremist views of Islam? >> I don't support extremism. >> Didn't you just stab someone to death >> for not believing in the same >> that's not extreme? >> It's the religion. >> It's what? >> It's the religion. >> Elaborate. >> That's what we have to do. >> You have to do Tell me what you have to do. What does that mean? to stab you best friends, brothers, friends. What What does that mean? What do you have to do? >> I'd love to understand. >> I'm I'm I gota be I gota be honest, man. I'm interested in this. Like I I want to understand the religion. I don't understand the religion that well. So, if [clears throat] it's not extreme, um you work for the FBI, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. Work. Yes, sir. He uh explain explain to me like uh why is it if you support religion did this guy badmouth the religion? Is that is that what you mean by it's part of the religion? You have to stand up for it or explain to me what >> say anything directly. >> You're not okay. So just tell me your story then. What happened? >> He didn't do anything to me personally that anyone else didn't do. >> I'm sorry. Let's talk about it. What else have people done to you? What's angered you? >> Nothing. Nothing about anger. It's just just what the what the disbelievers do. >> People don't believe in ICE and and what religion. Not whatever group you think I'm a part of. >> I don't know what you're a part of. >> I'm confused. You're a good You're saying you're a good Muslim, >> right? >> Yeah. You interpret the Quran, the Quran in a way that would allow you to kill somebody for not sharing the same beliefs as you. >> After the sacred months have passed, kill the pagans wherever you come. >> Did you ask him to convert and he wouldn't? >> No. >> How did you know he wasn't a Muslim? >> Just the way he acts, doesn't pray. >> So you were praying and he wouldn't pray next to you? No, not that. I just I just I just I don't know. It just the way he acts and plus when I when I went to pray, he didn't pray. So, I'm positive he wasn't listening. >> So, the So, you guys were celebrating at least it sounds like there was a birthday party for some reason. >> It was his birthday. >> It was his. So, you're telling me everybody else in that group are Muslims? >> No. the one you probably days ago. He's not a Muslim. >> I was my best friend. I wouldn't kill him. Well, he was my best friend. >> But he's not a Muslim, though. So, I don't >> He's not He's not your best friend. No. >> You just say he writed me out and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate me stabbing his brother and mother. >> No, I don't think he does. >> Are you remorseful for stabbing him? Or was it just that's just part of the game? >> Yeah, I probably should have done something different. >> All right. What did you know you were going to do this? >> No. >> This was premeditated. You bought a knife. You brought a knife. So, this wasn't a knife you found at the house. You actually brought a knife there? >> I bought I brought a knife, but it wasn't for it was just I bought a knife for self-defense. And it just happened that this was an easy opportunity cuz they're all sleep in different rooms. >> Okay. Easy opportunity to kill people that don't share the same beliefs as you. I'm still trying to understand your motivation for killing somebody who is hanging out with you. You guys were you guys were in the same group, same family. You're under the same roof. Why would you target him? I >> mean, Cory, you're you're you're elaborating on a lot of different things, which I appreciate that you're you're being uh forthcoming with me, especially considering our our relationship. You know, I've been to your house. You just accuse me of trying to say you were a bad person. >> Okay. So, I'm I guess I'm I'm just a little confused when you decide not to talk about certain motivations. >> Explain your side of the story. >> Your friend just asked if I was regret more. Yeah, I shouldn't have done that. I don't There's nothing I can do now. >> So, you feel bad for killing him? >> Yeah. Just because you were caught because you genuinely feel bad that >> there there was no way I was going to have escape. I didn't think at all there was any way I could escape that. So it's not that I was caught or anything. >> All right, we're going to we're going to go back a little bit. You know, I know you're a little bit newer to the investigation, but you're you're up to speed. When I saw you a year ago, I I was confronting you about the online threats to that school in McCauley High School. Okay. >> That was a big deal. I told you it made the news over there. Kids were pulled out of school because of the threats. >> Since then, everybody in your family told me that you you've uh you changed, knocked that stuff off. You weren't even spending as much time on the computer. The Malli thing was before I was even a Muslim. It was completely unrelated. I did it by mistake. What do you mean before? You use Deash as one of your screen names. >> That is a insulted name. It's not it's an insult because it it sounds similar to another Arabic word that I think mean oppressor or something like that. >> So, you weren't a Muslim, but you were using ISIS inspired threats. You told the girl that she would marry a fighter. I don't remember exactly what I said, but I do. Yeah, I wasn't I wasn't Muslim then and that issued a consultant name. >> When when did you when did you become a Muslim? When did you take the shahada? >> January 1st, 2017. All right, we bounced around a little bit. Let's just let's go back to uh yesterday. What happened? Tell me. I want to know everything from the time you woke up Sunday morning yesterday. >> Sunday morning yesterday? >> Yeah, you were at your house in Jupiter. >> No, I was at You can't look at the video that they just recorded. Um I was I was at an abandoned plaza which I was sleeping inside of. >> Where what's the address? >> No address. It's by It's the McDonald's near the Melting Pot on US1. It's by there. I need to know exact. Can you Can you pull it out on your phone? If you have a phone on you, I need to know on the map when that is McDonald's near US one. >> Yeah. So anyway, I was around there. I slept there. I woke up there and I was just up and about. I went to McDonald's for breakfast. >> Why? Why weren't you at home? Why was you living at home? >> Cuz I'm having problems with Jay. >> What's the problem? >> He's just abusive. abus physically or verbally? >> Both. >> He's hit you. >> He's pushed me down. He shoved me against walls. He's never punished me. >> What about the verbal abuse? What happened? >> Just saying I'm lazy and immature and, you know, getting up in my face, yelling and screaming. >> Did he tell you that I spoke to him recently? >> Um, no. But I know. >> I mean, why do you know? How do you know? Um, I'm not trying to get anyone in trouble. >> No, it doesn't. The only person that's in trouble right now is you. Okay. >> All right. Well, um, I know he was instructed not to tell anyone. He told my mom and he told my mom not to tell anyone and my mom told me >> that I called him for an update on you. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Did that upset you? >> No. I >> I mean, you knew we were on you were on our radar. It wasn't surprising. >> Okay. Okay. Mother told you. Why didn't she tell you? Was it a warning? Hey, Cory. No, he recorded. You sent it to me. >> Okay. >> And then I told my mom about it. I actually watched it with my mom and that's when my mom told me about it. >> Okay. What was your mom's reaction to that even though we were still looking into you? >> Well, it was part of it was funny because of how inaccurate some of the things were like, oh, he celebrates Matin's birthday. Muslims don't even celebrate their own birthdays, much less some random guy, right? >> Just stuff like that. inaccuracies and uh it just she thought there was nothing wrong. I'm fine. She told me she said uh keep her updated. >> Your mom said there was nothing wrong with you. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. So, let's go let's go back yesterday morning. You woke up in this abandoned building. >> I went outside. I was just uh I went at McDonald's. I ate there. Um then I just uh I was just on on my phone at McDonald's. I think I was on Instagram or Telegram or one of those just wasting time until work. And um that that's when I decided to go to the like uh maybe like around 250 maybe I decided to head to the Publix on foot and that's where I bought I bought some dates, I bought the knife and I bought um a drink. >> What job were you writing? >> I worked at I worked at one of Dix. >> For how long? You just started. I thought you had even started two weeks ago when you started. >> It's This is probably like my third week. >> Okay. What were you doing there? >> I'm a stalker. >> I'm sorry. You said you bought dates, a knife, and what else? >> A It's just a drink. Like a fruit drink at coconut mango. >> Okay. >> All right. So roughly the time it says she done with Plex. >> Well, I think I got the time wrong. I went there. I don't know. When I got out, it was like >> No, maybe it was around It was around 3 when I got out, I think. No. Yeah, around 3. And um so I was going back to where my bike was. I had my bike hooked up to a tree near the in the plaza area, but I came back and it was stolen. Somebody broke the lock off and took my bike. So, uh, so then I just, uh, I was walking to work, but I wasn't even halfway there, and I was already late by maybe a half hour, an hour. So, that's when I got in contact with Now what you guys do gardens? >> We just walked around and wasted some time until we went to uh Vermaldies, I think. Yeah, that's a it's a restaurant at the Gardens Gardens Mall or the Gardens >> downtown Gardens. Okay. Yes. What's a little Well, knowing that we were there talking about it before towards you. I mean, she's she doesn't really talk to me, but I know she should be very cool. You should be kinder towards me because I'm letting I'm putting up with Corey. You should put up with Shawn. um which is her not boyfriend but someone she's known for a long time. And he disappeared from from their lives. And now he's he just recently got back. She let me sleep over. All right. So, you got to get back to the house between 9 10:00 last night. All right. So, what happened? Um, nothing happened. just uh just they were listening to music, FaceTiming people. They were uh um >> and he resellled his that's money. >> All right. >> And uh nothing nothing happened. >> How late? I mean, you got when did everybody say, "All right, good night. We're all going to sleep. How did you guys work for 6 hours? >> I haven't slept. >> So 4:00 a.m. everyone decides to go to sleep >> around. So all you guys did for six hours was FaceTime friends, listen to music, and spend time. I don't I know I don't really know. >> Okay. All right. So 4 a.m. everybody was asleep. Okay. He never fell asleep though. >> Where? >> Where were you? You guys were sharing bed together. >> He was um he had a blowup bed and we're all around that all around the area, but he fell asleep. He ended up falling asleep on the blowup bed right next to his bed in his room. Um you know where everybody else and you can't sleep. What's going through your mind? I was just thinking now is a good opportunity and that's why I didn't have >> opportunity to do what I did >> just to kill or to man I have my reasons for all >> that's all that's the most important thing I need to know what were your reasons you just were hanging out having fun with him friends with them >> it's bizarre because I mean you know we already have all the physical evidence not like we're trying to make a case against you clearly killed him you've admitted to But I figure this would be the part you'd want to share with us. Why? >> Tell me in in the simplest terms. >> I don't know. Um was he was earlier in the day he was saying stuff about how people are gods and like sheriff and stuff like that. >> Who say that again? The last part >> shooter is polytheism biggest sin and it's like >> okay >> um >> but he so he believed in many gods is what you're saying. >> No he's just saying that like humans are gods which is plus just he's a bad person. He he like does fornication. He doing stuff with girls. He's smoking weed. All that kind of stuff. So I knew he wasn't a good person to begin with. >> So weed fornication. The only reason I have attacked him first was because of where he was. >> That's not the only reason. You just listed three reasons. >> No, that's the reason I attacked him first. >> First? Oh, so you're saying all these other people had a behind closed doors. >> All right. All right. Logistically, let's go back. You're you're in reach. So you decide I'll just jump out of bed and go to the outside of the room. >> It's just it's just like a couple feet. It's it's really close by. >> What was a couple feet? The the log >> It's just a couple steps. >> And the knife was in your bed with you. >> The knife was in my car. >> Okay. >> I had a shoot. >> Yeah. >> When did you do when did you decide you were going to commit the attacks? >> Once everyone was asleep. I >> No. No. That's when you found an opportunity to commit the attacks. When did you decide I want to >> attack someone in general or >> Yeah. No, I mean obviously you you >> forever. I guess >> you've always wanted to kill somebody. >> I guess you could say that >> before you were a Muslim. >> No. >> So since becoming a Muslim you wanted to kill her. >> You never had thoughts of harming other people. You you attacked your sister before you converted. >> No. Yeah. That's another thing that was inaccurate. She did sleep with a uh We can >> Yeah, she did sleep with a knife. Um but it had nothing to do with me. She just did that. But and the thing about me kicking her in the head was um it was some altercation. We were arguing about something and I ended up hurting her badly somehow. I don't remember if it's kicking or hitting, but I guess she wasn't she wasn't hurt physically, but I guess it hurt, but she wasn't damaged at all. And um I guess the next day at school, she reported it to the school police and they opened a domestic violence case. But the knife was I think the knife was even before that. It was unrelated to >> But my point is you had violent tendencies before converting. No, >> you kicked a girl in the head. Your sister? >> No, we all right. She was fighting me, too. So, >> how old your sister? >> She's 15 now. She was probably 14 or 13. >> So, you guys were just This was just roughousing. >> And then we actually got into a an actual argument and then that's when things escalated. She was throwing things at me. I ended up hitting her or kicking her or whatever. Good night. Okay, let's go back to you. You said you always want to kill somebody. I still want to know when did you want to kill these people who were connected to your friends? When you bought that knife, did you buy that knife with the intention of killing these people that day? I bought it just so I could have a knife on me. >> You when he was talking about polytheism. >> Well, no, that's just that's just another reason to the pile. I mean >> to the pile because he was he smoked weed and >> he's a Catholic. Yeah. So, all that stuff together. >> Okay. How long have you known him? >> I met him yesterday at the downtown. >> You met him yesterday afternoon? >> Yes. And how do you know he was having sex and smoking weed? >> He bragged about it. >> Know what kids do? >> I'm well. >> I mean bragging cool or but just him even saying that was working and dying over. >> Main thing was because he's not a Muslim. He's a citizen in this country. So your belief is that every person who's a citizen of this country and is not Muslim should be dead. >> No. Um you're attacking our country, your government, and killing the citizens. And the Quran says fight them as they fight you or something along those lines. >> So you're killing our innocent civilians. So you feel it's right >> same retaliation. Yeah. >> Just all that extra stuff with the the pointation and the and the weed and the shoot. It's just all >> So do you know how many people you killed? >> No, I know. I killed >> I saw him. He was He was He was burning and moving and then he just stopped >> after you cut his throat. >> Yes. >> Did you have any regrets at that point? when after I started stabbing him, I think I stabbed him in the stomach first. Um, and he started squirming and I was like, "Oh man, I shouldn't." >> But then you killed him anyway. >> Oh, why? Why? Why did you have that that doubt at that point? >> Because it just at that point like, "Oh, I just ruined my life." And then >> So, this wasn't about feeling bad for the the trauma you inflicted on on people. Seeing him writhing in pain. He does a little bit. >> Mostly because this was self-preservation. That's where the regret came from. >> Yes. Yeah. Sure. >> So why not run out of the house at that point? Why run back in and start killing other people or stabbing other people? >> Run back in. That was >> No, no, no. I mean, not not run out of the house. If self-preservation was on your mind. >> If you felt bad, you thought you screwed your Well, you just decided screw it. I'm going to keep going now. >> Well, after I was attacked, woke up and she came and said, "What's going on?" And she eventually came up the stairs and then that's when she saw me covered in blood with a knife. >> What did you do to her? >> Then I I I I lunged at her. I don't know if I hit her or not, but she ended up falling down the stairs. And then when she was on the floor, I I stabbed her where I >> think in the stomach, but she was kicking so I don't know if I actually hit her or not. like in the hallway between his room and the wall >> after attacking him. How did you attack him? You stabbed him in the stomach and tried to cut his throat. >> Stomach throat. Yeah. >> Okay. And then what? >> I'm not we're not going to get into that right now. Okay. You're going to find out funny. >> A lot of time to think about what happened, >> right? >> Okay. So, let's just wrap up this because I want to go back to a few things, but I want to finish series of your events. What you said? You said need to wake up. >> Don't you think waking up your friend saying, "I just killed your brother." Don't you think a negative emotion is going to happen there? Or you guys are just so close it doesn't even matter? I just wanted him to know that I wasn't going to hurt him. I didn't want him to wake up like random bodies and he thinks he's in trouble like by me. I think I'm going to kill him. Just wanted to let him know that I think I said I'm sorry, but um hurt you. You're my best friend. I said, I want you to become Muslim. >> What did he say to that? >> He just He didn't say anything to me. He just sat on his bed. say anything about I don't want to become Muslim so I don't want to pray five times a day. >> That was like before times just whenever I brought it up in the past >> and he didn't say is my mom okay nothing >> I didn't mention his mom >> but you said you attacked his brother. He didn't run out to see if his brother was okay or what did he do? >> He just sat there. He He just woke up. I didn't He might have thought I was still joking but I think he eventually saw body. So, so at what point do you guys walk out of that room together? >> I don't walk out with him. I just leave him there and I run downstairs and um I go in the bathroom and I sit down because I'm getting all dizzy. I my eyesight's going out barely standing. So, I sit down inside the like the shower area in the bathroom and I take my wallet out. I take my the knife sheet out of my pocket. I still have a knife. I put them down. Then eventually I decided to run to like a walk-in closet area with some some cabinets or like drawers. And um >> Why' you go there? >> Just seemed like a better spot at the time. I don't know. >> Were you waiting for something to happen? Were you >> I was waiting for the cops to show up. >> So you didn't contemplate suicide at any point. >> No, I couldn't kill myself with a knife. >> Why did you try to leave? >> Because they just chased me on foot. >> Well, you couldn't kill yourself with a knife. Why is that? Cuz it's painful going through that. >> But you just killed a bunch of people with a knife. >> And I saw how painful it was. >> But why didn't you get a gun? Why only a knife? >> I don't have access to a gun. >> If you had access to a gun, you would have chosen that. >> Did you ever try to get into your your uh >> you didn't know the combination, right? You know, he removed the guns at our request last year. >> Yes. >> Put it back in. >> You told me that because you thought you were on the right track. >> You uh withdrew from high school a few weeks ago. >> Yes. >> You started taking online classes. >> We were signing up for it. I But I never got around to it. It >> was weird. You and your mom? >> My mom and my grandma. last night or this morning. >> Um, like just watching random YouTube videos of what though? >> Um, there's a YouTuber called Great A just making funny videos. I think why don't we watch what stupid things my brain do does say random things like that nothing related >> so nothing related to ISIS or so what do you have to say about I mean I'm friends with a lot of Muslims I work with Muslims on my squad >> they're good people they don't hurt other people >> Muslims don't work for for Catholic Don't work for what now? Said God. >> Disbeliever. >> What do you have to say about all the Muslims that pray and go to mosque and don't harm other people? Have no intention of harming other people. >> That's their thing. So, are they wrong? You think they're not? >> No. No. They're not doing >> They're still Muslim. They're still all that. It's just they're they're doing all that required of them to do. They don't need to do what I did. >> They should. >> So, you could have done what was all that was required without killing somebody. You still chose to kill somebody? >> Well, jihad is a an individual requirement. I'm just saying that these people, they think they're doing all that they need to do and they think they're doing right in their mind. >> Where did you learn about jihad? >> It's just in Quran and all the books um by the scholars. >> You're not reading these books. You're stuff online. >> I I I got documents from Telegram. >> Telegram is what? I'm an old man. What's >> a secure kind of messaging app? >> Okay. So, it's an app on your phone. >> You could send documents over to channels where you could distribute documents and videos and audio. >> You know, all this is good. My my biggest concern is who else do you know of right now that might do the same thing, that might share your views? You don't know another kid out there who is thinks it's cool to stab 13-y old kids in the stomach and slice their throats >> on this Telegram. You're not talking to any other kids or any other kids posting stuff like you were posting? >> Any other kids? No. >> Nobody's ever approached you trying to recruit you? >> No. >> What about the mosque? >> I haven't done that in a while. >> I know before. >> What was your experience like there? They they were just they were on your side. They were teaching against uh they were saying how bad uh Anoir is TripleA. We talked about him. You defended him. You pointed at me and said our government killed him. >> You did. >> Okay. >> So the mosque you attended was anti uh ISIS. Yeah. >> What mosque was this for the record? Um, it's my center of Palm Beach. >> Did that upset you when they >> No, I just ignored it and focused on what what what good they were teaching like the classes I went to on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. I don't know if I told that to you or the other people. >> One of the people. Oh, the cops earlier today. Okay. So, it was this Telegram thing that switched you from Islam. What What switched you? What radicalized you? >> I'm not radicalized. I just >> You know what I'm saying? >> Um, nothing nothing in particular. Just the whole everything YouTube, Instagram, Telegram. I mean, give me an example of somebody because this is clearly in your mind a spectrum. Okay. So, you got your your disbelievers, the Muslims I work with at the FBI, right? >> Right. And then you have people who have been radicalized and you think you fall somewhere in between there. >> Well, your definition of extremism is probably different than mine. >> Well, that's what I want to know because my my definition of extremism has, you know, involves taking human life and things like that, >> right? the extremist the real extremist in Islam tech which are the uh the people who make declare others apostates like when they commit a big sin like let's say you eat pork and then these extremists will say you're not a Muslim because you ate pork even though that's not how it works it's just a sin that's not a nullifier so those are the extremists for the Muslims for the US government. It's It's just the Muslims that are following the religion truly like the Islamic State. We're the modernists. I mean, does the extremist peaceful people and is the extremist techies make who declare others apostates and Islamic State is moderate on that? >> Earlier you said we attacked your country. What country is that? >> Islamic State. You don't talk online to the Islamic State and they tell you what to do? >> Did you ever try to make contact with them? >> No. >> You never thought about going to Syria to fight? >> There's no way. >> What do you mean there's no way? We'll do it all the time. No, they can't get to Syria anymore because the Kurds attacked um Raqqa and they lost it. Now there's >> I know >> not really a way to get to Syria anymore. >> So you would have tried >> No, I don't I know I'm like probably on a no-fly list or whatever and >> right >> and um you don't have a passport. I get a passport more sufficient. Sorry, but I need to know exactly the address of where you were living again and that that show. How how often have you been sleeping in that place? >> I've only slept there three days like >> consecutively. >> Not consecutive. Just just whenever I need a place and I can't find a place to sleep over you just attack a 13-year-old sleeping kid with a knife. >> If you had Why not attack the guy that's being abusive to you? Why would you attack a sleeping 13-year-old >> if you want to jail? >> Yeah, sure. >> Right. He's a man that's abusing you. So you say, >> why not attack a man who's causing you harm instead of a >> lot of demons? >> It's just easier. I mean, obviously it's harder to attack a full grown man than a sleeping 13-year-old boy. >> All right, let's go back. That place you're in, um, you said not consecutively. When was the first time you stayed there? um maybe a month ago. >> It's an Is it in a strip mall? It's just one >> It's just a plaza. It's It's most of it's abandoned, but there's a um there's a Domino's and there's a liquor store and there's a nail shop at one corner, but everything else is abandoned there. >> Um I'm assuming the space you were sleeping in or the unit, whatever you want to call it, was formerly or some sort of retail or something. You know what it was? >> It was I don't know what the suspecting it was either like a car dealership or a computer like some something >> center >> something something computerized. Um and cuz there were like TV stands there. >> Okay. >> In their boxes. A lot of electronics. >> What was next door? Were there any open businesses on either side of this place? Mhm. We We got in by opening. It was just a door open. >> Okay. And this was the on US one. And what what was the major interception? >> Um there's no intersection, right? >> So it's right by the McDonald's melting pot and Domino's. He's not a Muslim. >> Really? >> He told you he doesn't want to be a Muslim. >> So he doesn't fall under your theory of wanting to kill. >> Yeah. He's not a Muslim. >> It's personal. I've always known him. He's always been my friend, my only friend. >> So he doesn't sin. He doesn't smoke weed or >> he's mostly good. Not very disbelieving. And then I I always had the hope that he eventually would burn. My family spends a lot of time around me after I saw you last year. Obviously at the time the concerns were threats you were making online which at that time you didn't even get to. You get back on the computer and do anything else. >> Never went back on and praise Marine or his birthday or anything like that. >> You have a computer. Why? I looked at all that evidence. Why? Why shut out of school? Why send those things? Do you like a girl over there? What was that about? >> That was just a prank I did with my friend. Um, >> which front? >> UK. >> Okay. So, you have a friend over there. You just met him online. What was the name? >> I'm not giving a name, but probably but they probably know him over there. One day I I talked to him. >> He went to that high school. >> No, no, no. >> He lived in a different city. We both This was before we were both uh white nationalist before and then we both converted to Islam. And uh >> go back to that part. White nationalist. Explain that to me. >> We're both basically white supremacist racist people. >> Okay. >> Luckily, we were both safe from that. >> What group were you part of? >> No, we're just an Instagram thing. We're both running like conservative Instagram. >> How were you saved from that? >> By we both converted kind of helping each other with that. And anyway, before before we both converted, we were just both screwing around. we decided to make these fake ISIS accounts and it wasn't I don't even think that was the first time like the time that it got it was probably like my second account fake ISIS account just messing with people and then I guess it got out of hand because the threat that I posted got actually spread outside of Instagram onto uh onto Snapchat and Facebook or whatever the the article said it and people thought it was real and then the actual school got shut down. I didn't do it on purpose. It was just by mistake. We're just messing with people. It was prank, pretending to be ISIS. >> But you like there was some girl involved too, right? >> I I don't remember talking to girls. I don't remember what I said. >> Was uh the storage place in the same plaza as the melting pot? >> No, it's it's in the same kind of plaza as a McDonald's sort of. Anyways, how did you meet this guy over there? Just online because you you're both white supremacist on some forum or something? >> Instagram. Instagram. >> Instagram. >> So, you could see him and say, "Okay, he shares my beliefs, >> right? He's a British nationalist and I always >> How old is that guy?" The older dude. >> H Why that school though? if he wasn't even in that city. >> I don't remember how he found it. >> He found it for you though. >> No, I found it. >> I don't remember how I found it. >> Does he share Did he Was he saved by ISIS also or was he still a white supremacist >> at that point? >> No, now >> now. >> Yeah, >> he's a Muslim now. I don't know what it was. He converted all you guys converted together >> around the same time like within the same like couple weeks. I don't know if he supports any groups or whatever. I don't know if he's streaming. >> I haven't talked to him in a long time. He deleted his Telegram randomly and I haven't seen him since. >> Well, his name's online. >> I'm >> Why? Cuz if he's still safe and not like arrested or anything, runs on watch list. I don't want to get him on that. >> So you don't want to get him in trouble, but what about what if he kills someone? You said you felt bad for these kids you killed. What if he kills someone? You could at least save those kids. >> Wouldn't that redeem you somehow a little bit if you could save other kids lives? >> If he wants to do that, that's his thing. This is it. The McDonald's and melting pot aren't that close. Okay. >> Yeah, it's uh where where's the show in the melting pot? >> This is the melting pot down here. >> Um you sure that's the right melting pot? This is the one on US. McDonald should be recognized to go back just one more time. You meet this guy online and you're white supremacist, but most ISIS people are not white. >> So if you have hatred towards people who aren't white, why join a group that's predominantly not white? >> Didn't join a group. It was a prank at that point. We both didn't like >> Muslims at all. >> Right. That's what I would think. >> That's why it was funny at the time. >> That was October of 16. You you converted on January 1st of 17 talking about a couple couple months. >> Mhm. >> How how did that happen so quickly? >> I don't. >> You don't know. >> I just started liking it. Thought it was a trick. >> Did you like it because they were more violent than the white supremacists? Part of you likes the violence. I wasn't originally uh supportive of the I mean I was I sort of supported the violence but I wasn't really into the ISIS until after a couple months >> as a white supremacist. So as a Muslim you killed people who weren't Muslim as a white supremacist. Did you ever have plans on killing blacks or Hispanics? >> I never had any plans for >> No. I've heard police reports at your high school that >> Yeah. on on the video it said apparently I threatened blacks at Dwire but but I don't I never had any trouble at Dwire except for one time I got punched and that was completely unrelated but some guy bumped into me in the hallway. I told him to watch where he was going and he ended up punching me. That's the only trouble I've ever gotten in the wire. So I don't know where the directing blacks came from. >> All right. So you switched to ISIS and you're kind of talking with this guy online. You guys both agree the white supremacy thing is not cool and you ISIS is more cool. >> No, not really. >> We we were both white supremacist at the time, but we were thinking like, oh, because the reason I got into the white supremacy in the first place is because I was just trying to find out something that's moral, something that's away from like generacy and all that kind of stuff. Mhm. >> And I thought like, oh, what I thought at the time was maybe white people are better in that regard than non-whites. >> But after like seeing being in the community for a while, I saw that not only the white people, but just the white supremacists were just as bad as everyone else, if not worse in some regards. >> Okay. So, >> so that's just just with like fornication and doing drugs and stuff like that. Just just stuff like that. Okay. So um so at that point I was kind of disillusioned with the white supremacy thing. So that's why searching for the other alternatives. >> You find >> Islam >> I find Islam first not like ISIS first. >> Okay. >> So a Muslim >> and this guy you kind of talking with him the whole time like hey what do you think about this Islam versus >> Right. He's he's the same thing with the morality and the disillusionment. >> You guys ever talk on the phone or just always online? >> Just over a text. >> Hey Cory, you asked me earlier if uh >> why did you ask me that? >> I'm just wondering. >> Why? >> Because you hoping he survived or do you want to you want to see a higher kill count? >> Honestly, I'm just wondering because his wounds seemed a lot they seem pretty bad. I stabbed her a couple times. Nothing bad, so I figured she was as all right as you could get after being stabbed a couple times. >> All right. So So this guy, do you ever talk to this guy overseas about stabbing people? No, no, we never parked at any extreme. >> Nothing extreme. >> Do you have any thought that he might do something like this? >> I haven't spoken to him in a long time. >> What's a long time? >> Months. Um, I mean, >> why seem like a pretty good friend online? >> Just deleted his telegram randomly. >> But you were you said you were texting us. You had his phone number, right? >> I I had his telegram. >> Oh, okay. Did you tell him that the FBI spoke to you about the uh high school threat? >> I think I did. >> And that he deleted his account. >> Not immediately, like after like a couple weeks after. So, I don't know if it was related or not. I figured maybe somebody like talked to him and he got scared and was related. I think >> Okay. >> I don't know. >> And you don't want us to try to stop him from hurting anybody else? >> I don't know if he's going to do it. If you need to. Yeah, >> we would like to have our our partners in the UK reach out to him, >> talk to him. >> He's gone down the same path as you. >> You said two things, man. Let me talk to you. You said you ruined your life. You said it earlier, right? >> Mhm. >> If you care about this guy, don't let him ruin his life. And and you're asking if other people are dying. Like, let's stop other people kids from dying. And let's not >> If you want to check on him, go ahead. >> Yeah. What's his name? >> Just give me his name. >> Can't you look through my internet? >> Yeah, we can. But like kids could die today, man. Like this is a big deal. Like I'm done burying. I'm done with the dead kids thing. Just tell me his name. >> You tell us his name. We'll tell you if the kid's alive. >> You killed somebody, I guess. >> Why? And what were you trying to do? >> What? >> I don't know. >> When did you get to their house? >> Last night. >> You were staying at their house >> for that. >> I know. >> Yes. >> But you were staying at their house last night. >> Yes. >> Well, why was that everyone rushing upstairs? >> Cuz I heard the guy screaming. >> What guy? >> The guy I stand. some guy. I don't know. Um he was >> his friend. >> He's a kid. He was 13. >> He was >> He's dead. Why did you stab him? I haven't slept in. >> But what did the kid do? >> Were you all sleeping in the same room? >> No, it was all different parts of the house. Where did the knife come from? >> I bought it at home. >> No. Why couldn't you just stay home and not run away and follow my rules? >> Cuz your rules are dumb. Well, although now you're going to have really dumb rules. >> Jay said, "If I don't like the rules, leave the house." So, I did. Your boyfriend told me to do that. >> Yeah. >> Eating in your room and coming in at a decent hour is not bad. Now, the rules you're going to have to follow are going to be way worse. >> You know my eating schedule. I eat one meal a day and I snack. You're taking away the snacks. You're taking away half my food. >> You know how to make food. >> Yes. I don't want to talk about that. >> Why would you hurt someone? >> She's not Muslim. >> Are they not Muslim? Oh my god. I'm not either. >> I don't know. I don't know what's happened to you. Why? I don't know why you would do this. You're in big trouble. >> You may have killed someone. Nobody will tell me anything. I don't know. >> One, maybe two. >> One, maybe two, maybe three. Doesn't matter to you. >> There's nothing I could do now. Just sit here cuz I didn't want you to wouldn't let me stay outside. That's just one reason. Mom is destroy the camel hold. >> It doesn't really matter what my rules in my house are now cuz you're not there. You won't be >> [gasps] >> Seriously, can you tell me why you did that? >> I did. >> Were you sleeping? >> I was laying awake. >> You were just laying awake all night. >> I wasn't tired. It was at 4 in the morning. >> And [clears throat] what was the other kid doing? Sleeping. >> Everyone was sleeping. >> And you stabbed someone and then they were sleeping. Yes. >> Yes. >> I don't know. I don't even know you. >> You're going to say that you want to. >> Johnson was charged with first-degree murder and two counts of attempted first-degree murder. A jury found him guilty and Florida appellet courts later upheld the life without parole sentence structure. Giovanni Sierra was 13. >> If you're cool with us, okay, you going to be all right. We're going to have the medics come and clean that up for you, buddy. It's going to end the interview