He's got himself a gun pointed pointed a
gun towards his head.
>> Don't do it, dude.
PLEASE DON'T DO IT.
DOWN! PUT IT DOWN!
PUT IT DOWN!
>> TWO ARMED SUSPECTS, TWO separate
confrontations with Toledo police, and
both encounters escalated within
seconds. In the first incident, officers
encountered Joshua Garner, an armed
suspect running through a residential
neighborhood before gunfire is exchanged
between Garner and the pursuing officer.
In the second, Toledo officers responded
to a domestic violence call involving
Aaron Saul. When officers arrived, they
met with the victim who had noticeable
injuries to her face. Saul then emerged
from an apartment armed with a compact
semi-automatic firearm, leading to
another officer-involved shooting. Both
suspects survived, but the
circumstances, tactics, and outcomes
were very different. We'll begin with
the Joshua Garner incident, starting
with the original 911 call, followed by
the responding officer's body cam.
>> 911, where's your emergency?
>> Okay, I'm on Sylvania right in past Bell
View, just past Enoco. There's a guy
that's walking with a gun and he's
swinging it all over the place. I asked
if he was he okay. He says, "No, I want
to die. I want to kick kill the guy who
gave me the gun or something." He's He
has black pants on,
uh no shirt, no shoes. He's headed
towards
the mall. I can't I don't even know
>> 1111
521
>> Yep.
>> 521, I think the male just ran in a
backyard around uh 2319.
>> In the backyard.
>> I don't know which house he went behind.
Maybe we can set up a box.
I saw him from about 100 yards out. He
was right by 2315 or 2319.
>> Copy, 2319 was that?
>> Copy 2391 something.
>> I need one crew to go one uh street
south of Sylvania.
>> One crew going
>> Let me see your hands, man!
All right, he's running southbound. I'm
hopping the fence.
He's got a gun.
>> RUNNING BACK TOWARDS DOUGLAS.
I SEE HIM!
HE'S GOT HIMSELF AT GUNPOINT, pointing a
gun towards his head.
DON'T DO IT, DUDE!
PLEASE, DON'T DO IT!
PLEASE, don't do IT, DUDE! PUT THE GUN
DOWN!
PUT THE GUN DOWN!
521 IN front of 2323.
He's got the gun to his head.
>> 2323 in front of them in front of uh
>> Please, don't do it, dude!
Please, don't do it!
He's running WITH THE GUN
BACK TOWARDS DOUGLAS.
DON'T DO IT, DUDE!
Don't do it!
Back towards Douglas WITH THE GUN.
SHOTS FIRED! SHOTS FIRED!
>> SHOTS FIRED! SHOTS FIRED!
>> SHOTS FIRED AT THIS [ __ ]
>> SHOTS FIRED reading 521.
>> I'm in
Kershaw.
I'm on
>> Swing and Kershaw.
Watch where you are and south end of
their goal.
>> I don't know where we went this match.
>> Hey 521, where you
>> That same straight AHEAD. THAT SAME
STRAIGHT AHEAD.
>> FRONT AND SOUTH side of Kershaw. You
dropped the gun.
7 Kershaw, drop the gun.
521, where you headed?
>> All the cruisers are with me.
>> I'm okay.
>> Hey, you were you were headed 521?
>> No officer hit.
No officer hit. I'm okay.
Shots were fired.
>> [ __ ] move.
Don't shoot me.
>> Hello officer, I won't.
Please let me out.
I'm okay.
>> It's 402 inside.
>> Listen to me. Listen to me.
>> I don't look like he's shot.
>> I don't want to die.
I want help. Take me to St. Charles. I
don't ever want to leave.
PLEASE I WANT TO DIE.
>> DO me a favor, stop talking to me.
>> No, [ __ ] you pig.
>> From a tactical standpoint, this
incident shows how quickly an armed foot
pursuit can change. Distance, available
cover, backdrop, and the suspect's
ability to suddenly turn and engage the
officer all become critical factors
within seconds. Now, we move to the
second incident. On July 8th, 2025,
Toledo police responded to a reported
domestic violence call. When officers
arrived, they met with the victim who
had noticeable injuries to her face.
Officers then learned that the suspect,
Aaron Saul, had gone back inside a
nearby apartment. What followed would
lead to another armed confrontation with
Toledo police. We'll begin with the
original 911 call followed by the
responding officer's body cam footage.
>> 911, where's your emergency?
>> Sir, I need an ambulance, please. We're
at
Um 2354 and a half Eastgate Road.
>> 2358 Eastgate?
>> 2364 and 1/2 Eastgate.
>> 2364?
>> And 1/2. I'm on the second floor of
Eastgate Apartments.
>> Do you have an apartment number? You
said at the half?
>> Yeah, it's the half. It's the upstairs.
>> Okay, what's your name?
And what's going on?
>> Uh my boyfriend just beat the [ __ ]
breaks off of me. I'm pretty sure he
broke my nose.
>> Okay.
What's his name?
>> Aaron Sol. I can't spell it. S O L.
I can't talk loudly, he'll hear me.
>> Okay.
Is he black, white, or Hispanic?
>> White.
>> And do you know what he's wearing today?
>> A white yellow shirt and blue sleep
shorts.
>> Blue shorts?
>> Yeah.
>> And were there any weapons involved?
>> [laughter]
>> No.
>> Okay.
>> I have to go back in to get my shoes.
>> Okay, you're currently outside?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
And he's inside?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
All right, yeah, I have help notified
2364 Eastgate Road at the half, the
Eastgate Apartments. Stand by, I'm going
to get you over to EMS, okay?
>> I'll take a look at you.
Your nose.
Yeah, that's pretty swollen.
835 can approach. What place you live
at? Right there?
>> 2364 and 1/2.
>> Did he just go in there?
>> I don't know.
>> I think he did.
He's got guns?
>> unloaded, they don't work, but he's got
guns up there.
>> Okay.
Hey, he's up in this apartment. I just
watched him go in there.
Yep.
What's his name, Aaron?
>> What do you mean?
Oh, yeah?
What?
Get the [ __ ] out here.
Get out here. Show me your [ __ ]
hands.
GET OUT. PUT IT DOWN.
>> [screaming]
>> PUT IT DOWN.
PUT IT DOWN.
JESUS CHRIST.
8
8:30 SUSPECT retreated into the
apartment. He had what looked to be a
submachine gun on him.
Is there a WAY OUT THE BACK?
8:30
Victim saying there's no way out the
back.
8:30 I'm going to hold on this door.
When we get somebody here,
I'm
stand by.
All right, get on the ground.
GET IN THE GROUND.
GET ON THE GROUND.
GET ON THE GROUND.
GET ON THE [ __ ] GROUND.
IF YOU MOVE, I'M GOING TO [ __ ] drop
you.
Hey, bro. Stop that [ __ ] [ __ ] Look,
I'm cool with you.
Look, hey bro. Just tell me to roll
over, [ __ ] Roll over. Look, look,
look. Is that all you got to say, G?
Oh, I bet you a dime, ain't you?
You sure as [ __ ] a goddamn dime.
You ain't no [ __ ] What's in the
apartment? Ain't nobody in that [ __ ]
Oh, we got a female Oh, my bad, man. I
ain't know we had a female in here.
Gunshot wound in the hand. Send him to
the [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ] I'll
go do my bid, [ __ ] [ __ ] you want? Get
out of here. Pull my pants
>> From a tactical standpoint, the second
incident highlights the risks of
confronting an armed suspect from a
confined position. Limited visibility,
effective use of cover, disciplined
positioning, and constant attention to
the suspect's hands were critical
throughout the encounter. In the first
incident, Joshua Garner survived without
being struck. He was charged with
multiple offenses, including felonious
assault, improperly discharging a
firearm, and tampering with evidence. In
January 2025, Garner was found not
guilty by reason of insanity on charges
stemming [music] from the June 2024
incident. In the second incident, Aaron
Saul was struck in the hand, treated at
a hospital, and taken into custody. He
later pleaded guilty to charges
including attempted kidnapping,
strangulation, resisting arrest, and
domestic violence.
>> [music]
>> In October 2025, Saul was sentenced to a
minimum of 4 and 1/2 years in prison.
Legally, both incidents were evaluated
based on the totality of the
circumstances confronting the officers
at the moment force was used, and
whether they reasonably perceived an
imminent threat of death or serious
bodily injury. To date, no criminal
charges have been reported against the
officers involved in either shooting.
This is Texas Safety Watch,
>> [music]
>> where we break down what legally
matters, what tactically matters, and
the lessons that [music] can be learned
from critical incidents across the
country. Until next time, stay aware,
stay safe, and God bless. We'll see you
in the next case.