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good morning this is daniel from copwatch tv and we are going to do another live event this morning just like we did last week what's really important is the interaction with the audience and us so if you have any questions or comments not just about past videos that we've done though we'd love to talk about that anything that's happening in the law enforcement world or the police world every day there's new stories there's new there's new incidents that happen so any kind of questions that you have definitely put in the chat and we'd be more than happy to answer um so again my name is daniel with cop watch tv if you want to follow me you can do that on youtube or tick tock at police law news otherwise we appreciate everybody watching this but please make sure that you like and and subscribe and hit the notification button so you can be aware of when we do these live events we are going to do live events every friday is what the what the goal is so please let us know what types of questions you have while people are still coming into the chat we did have some questions from last week that either came in after the live was over or during the live that you know i just wasn't prepared to answer so i do think that engaging with the audience is is um um important so we do have answers to some of those to some of those questions so let me at least get to one or two of them you know while people are still still coming into into this this live so last week someone asked about because we did post and the audience really likes videos about people getting arrested for driving while intoxicated just the raw police body cam video for driving while intoxicated arrests and we have posted several videos about that so someone asked a really good question and it was why do police officers give the standardized field sobriety tests why not just go right to a breath test that's a really good question and the so what they mean by the standardized field sobriety test that's essentially the three different tests that officers give on the side of the road the walk and turn test the one leg stand test and then the first test is the one where the officer is tracking the eyes so the reason is is because a breath test machine which is typically used by law enforcement agencies it's called an intoxilyzer 8000 police officers can't have those in their vehicles so that's nothing that's portable so they're only at the substation so in order for a police officer to get a driver from the road and transport them physically which is a seizure under the fourth amendment to a substation in place that there would have to be probable cause for an arrest well in order to get to probable cause for arrest police officers use these standardized field sobriety tests to see if there are signs of impairment so it's once that investigation is over with and then only if there's probable cause to believe that someone is driving while under the influence it's at that point that a police officer can make an arrest and take someone for breath test and that is the reason why standardized field sobriety tests are given and why police officers just don't go right to a breath test and again that is an absolute excellent question we do have a couple others that came in after but if anybody has any in the chat that they would like me to go over or comments about past videos um i i definitely like to engage with that now so let's see what we have going on here in the chat uh so we do have some information about or some people talking about the the uvalde shooting so there isn't a question on that but you know i think that's still on everybody's minds and it absolutely should be because it was a horrible tragedy that happened and we have a couple different entities so we have the uvalde city police department and then we have the uvalde independent schools districts and the school district has its own police department and the chief of that is pita aradando so pete arredondo he was the incident commander when this incident took place he's the police chief of the school district which has six different schools so one interesting thing about what's happening there is that prior to this incident happening pete airdondo the chief he ran for city council and he actually won he won a seat on the city council he got over 70 percent of the vote so locally he was an extremely popular person and the swearing-in of the city council was scheduled to happen one week after the uvalde shooting occurred so there was a lot of questions about well is he still going to be sworn in and there's nothing in the texas state constitution or in the local charter that would prevent that so it wasn't widely publicized but in a secret ceremony that i say secret because typically these are public these are public events but it was exactly one week after the uvalde school shooting pete arredondo was sworn in as a city councillor in the uvalde texas so that is something that's kind of interesting going on there let's see if we have any other comments questions in the in the chat uh tom doerfler why are cops cowards that is a that's that's well i'm gonna i don't think that's a great question so if if you if there's a specific incidence about you think police officers did something incorrectly or acted cowardly if you want to put that in the chat and then let's talk about a specific incident the reason is is because there's over seven 000 law enforcement officers so to say that all police are anything probably isn't accurate saying that they're all cowards all heroic all good all bad that just probably isn't an inaccurate description to talk about a group of over 700 thousand people but if you have a specific incident that you want to talk about i'm more than happy to because the goal of this isn't to make police officers look good or police officers look bad the goal is that of this is to be is to be honest and to look at incidents and when police officers make mistakes or do something incorrect it is more important to call that out and to talk about it so we don't make the so police officers either don't make that kind of mistake again or they can learn from that mistake so that's the goal of this but yeah if you have any specific questions about an incident more than happy to talk about it um how does this channel feel about actual cop watchers well i can't speak for the entire channel because we have people here who do who do research and production but the way that i feel about cop watchers and i've actually talked um a lot about this incident and just just to be as as honest as i can be when it comes to channels like i'm gonna i'm gonna give someone a shout out like long island audits and channels like that when i watch things like that a lot of us you can just binge it because it's just so interesting so i love videos like that i think they're interesting and most of the time and a lot of the videos that i watch the cop watchers are doing you know constitutionally protected activity so they will go into a post office and they will just just record and then police officers are called and really they're essentially doing a test on the police officers or an audit to see if the police officers are going to violate their constitutionally protected rights so i i think it's they're absolutely legal to do that and the videos are interesting and you know from the side of police what i when i watch and what i hope for is that the police officers are nice that they are polite they are professional they give their name and badge number and they do not violate anybody's constitutional rights um so those are some of my thoughts about about the cop watchers or the or or the auditors let's see all right so um when it comes to a polygraph so we did get a question about a polygraph and so a lie detector test and whether or not a lie detector test is admissible in court and the short answer is no so lie detector tests are not admissible in court they just don't reach the standard that any court would allow them in as evidence now that doesn't mean that police departments don't use them because they do there are things where just because a court may not recognize it as part of an investigation into a crime a police department uh detectives with a police department might use them as part of their investigation just to see if they're on the right track or wrong track so they are used by police departments it's obviously it is on a voluntary basis but the results no matter what they are would not be admissible in court so that's that's the situation when it comes to polygraph tests they also use polygraph tests in pre-hiring for law enforcement so many police departments do a polygraph test as part of the initial battery of tests when hiring someone to become a police officer before the police academy so they are not a hundred percent accurate can't be used in court but law enforcement agencies a lot of them do use them for multiple different things and we disabled patriots said police are not liable for our safety by the law that's absolutely correct and i think i touched on this last week but just to recap a little bit there are a couple different supreme court cases the last one i believe was in 2005 which essentially said that police officers cannot be held liable for not protecting someone so there's no criminal liability to police officers or civil liability to police officers if they fail to act so that is an absolute correct statement there are a couple different supreme court cases on that exact issue we have a question from or comment from kristin fe would you agree that police officers should be would you agree that police officers should be required a lot more schooling and training especially when it comes to mental health so you asked about a couple different things so schooling or and then training for mental health so if we take those two issues a little bit separately a lot of police departments you know have in the past required either 60 college credit hours or a four-year degree and that is obviously not you know what that hurts is is recruiting police officers so when you look at different police departments when they enact that those types of policies the amount of officers that they get hired is less because the pool of people is lower so i mean obviously that would be up to each individual police department whether or not they want to enact that but if you can imagine a large metropolitan police department that is you know 300 officers short so in the last two years the seattle police department has lost 25 percent of their officers they are doing everything they can to recruit police officers from around the country so in a situation like that it probably wouldn't make a lot of sense to have any kind of educational requirement but maybe for other police departments that would now when it comes to mental health training absolutely that is something that all police officers should have now it might be called different things in different states but usually it's called something to the effect of crisis intervention training and no matter how much of that training you get it could be a 40 hour block or an 80 hour block but no matter how much training you get from that a police officer is is never going to be an almost never going to be a mental health counselor so those types of trainings are great police officers should get as much of it as possible and actually most states require it by state law for the training that officers have to go through that there is yearly updates on that so as much training as possible when it comes to mental health is absolutely fantastic what a lot of police departments have also done is they have mental health crisis units or they call it something similar and essentially what that is is where a police officer and a master's level mental health clinician actually ride together and once other police officers have made the scene safe so it's not a dangerous and dynamic situation that the mental health that the police officer who has extra training in mental health awareness and a master's level clinician can both go ahead and contact people in the field so progressive police departments and um um some of that's a really good idea for police departments to do and a lot of the departments are doing that type of thing to help with this issue okay so corey asked if police are not liable for our safety what is the point of their existence why have them around so when i when i say they're not liable for our safety that means in court so if you want a police officer to you know doesn't protect you or does something wrong or fails to act or makes a mistake not protecting someone they can't be held liable in court so they can't go to jail and they can't get sued civilly now that doesn't mean that there aren't department policies that they violate so even though if a police officer fails to act just because they can't go to jail or get sued civilly doesn't mean that they didn't violate any different protocols and if there is an incident like that a lot of times what happens with police officers is that there is still an internal investigation and you know possibly mental health they might look into the mental health of the officer to see if this is an actual good fit for him or her so just just because and you can imagine a situation where if someone fails to protect someone in a pretty significant incident that the other police officers who work with that individual might not think it's safe to work with that individual so there is a point to police officers and just because they can't go to jail for it doesn't mean that most of them don't protect people on a daily basis let's see so let's see we have any other questions here coming in let's see okay all right so we have questions about amber heard which is which is great everybody knows that johnny depp won that won that trial i think he won 15 million dollars but it was lower to somewhere just over 10 million and amber heard one two million so johnny depp should net somewhere around eight million dollars um but her attorney has said that she's going to appeal uh the judgment which she can do however if there weren't you can't appeal like the amount but amber heard would be able to appeal if there were any legal problems legal issues if if a judge made a mistake with not allowing some evidence in those are the kinds of issues that amber heard can go ahead and appeal her attorney has said that she doesn't have eight million dollars to pay which which also could be an issue and if she tried to declare bankruptcy this is one of those things where declaring bankruptcy actually wouldn't do anything to the eight million dollar debt because if she was found it was uh because the the libel and the the defamation of character it was an intentional act so declaring bankruptcy wouldn't help her at all so that's on johnny depp and amber hurd so dewitt jeremy dewitt we do have some questions about jeremy deguitt jeremy dewitt and his videos are all over the internet uh i believe we've done one on him on cop watch tv he is a serial police impersonator out of florida near osceola county and in orange county i believe he's in jail now his videos he runs a he ran a company called metro state that did funeral escorts but he would outfit the motorcycles and the uniform that he would wear in an effort to essentially look just like a police officer he would have a badge he would have what looks like a gun if you just looked at it it would just look like a gun but it was actually a pepper ball gun but there was no yellow or orange indication on it and that one of the last times that he was arrested was for having that pepper ball gun while he was driving around so just really quick on that one and i'm not gonna defend jeremy dewitt because he is a serial liar and police impersonator and he records everything on his own body cam and the videos are absolutely hilarious it's kind of like the the auditor uh the videos about the police auditors once you start watching it you just can't get enough of jeremy dewitt body cam video but one of the last times he was arrested and he actually had kind of a good point because he had a pepper ball gun and it was not concealed he was carrying it in an outside holster and he was stopped and by police and he was arrested for carrying a concealed weapon well he was stopped for the weapon so if the officer can see it then it isn't concealed which is a pretty logical argument and jeremy actually made it on scene um what's interesting about that is the the sergeant who made that arrest i can't remember which county it was in florida but he's actually been up for termination because of the the department has accused him of an unlawful arrest of jeremy in that particular case and i believe that he has his hearing uh coming up soon so that's one of the interesting turns in that um okay uh let's see so so we have a lot of people ask you know why we do this channel you know what are some of the what are some of the goals of this channel and you know before we before we talk about that you know again i just want to thank everybody for watching everybody who likes this channel and subscribes and comments and again anything that we can do better please let us know meaning if you want videos on certain topics if you want us to do live events where we cover certain topics please let us know we definitely would like to but the reason that we started this channel in the first place is because we wanted the interaction the raw interaction that police officers have with individuals on the street from someone's best day of their life to the worst day of their life when that's captured on body camera it's such an amazing thing to be able to see and to witness i mean before body camera almost never before can just regular people be able to watch what the interactions of police officers are so that's why we do this is to just put the information out there and again the goal isn't to make police look bad or make police look good the goal is to be honest and to put out raw video of police interactions that isn't edited and then you know i i do come in with a lot of videos where i answer where i give my opinion on the video or i talk about i answer questions about the video but that's really the goal of this is to just put out the honest and raw interactions that police officers have with citizens uh kristin fe says do you think citizen should be disarmed so that's obviously that's a controversial topic and no i don't think that citizens should be disarmed i i could talk about this for an hour but kind of like the one the other questions we had today where you know it says that you know the supreme court cases where it says that police officers don't have a legal duty to protect well if police officers don't have a legal duty to protect it it seems like that would shade more in the favor of citizens wanting to be armed now i think that when people talk about reasonable or common sense gun control laws i i don't want to just say be negative or positive to that statement what i'm more interested in is what is the law what is the idea so let's talk about the individual policy that is being proposed and then let's talk about what's the goal of that policy so if we know what the policy is and we know what the goal is and then we could say okay is this the best way to get there and i think that's an interesting conversation to have and if anybody has ideas about different gun control laws or laws that are on the books that you don't like definitely put them in put them in the comments you know we can go through them and address them because that is an incredibly interesting topic especially you know after what happened in uvalde a couple weeks ago there are a lot of calls for different gun laws to come into place now it should be noted that the shooter in uvalde he broke several gun laws so it's illegal in texas to carry a concealed handgun unless you have a concealed carry permit which he didn't have it's also illegal to carry a gun onto school premises so he broke that law too he also broke our murder laws so he broke a lot of laws that day but if there are any laws or policies that might be enacted to maybe make some of this stuff these shootings either not happen or be more difficult i think it's definitely extremely interesting to talk about individual policies and what the goals of those are all right so let's see um we have a question about trudeau in in canada um but i'll get that here in a second dj smith says hi everybody i'm new to the channel well welcome dj if you have any questions about any topics or anything you like please let us know and let's see what do you think about the trudeau ordering citizens in canada to disarm i know that's canadian politics but overall do you think that's radical yeah i i do think it's radical and i'll be 100 transparent i don't know anything about canadian law unless it's jordan peterson talking about free speech issues politics in canada i'm just not all that familiar with so i wish i could talk more about it on a legal level i just i just don't know to me it seems like a bad idea but if we do have anybody from canada that's a good question do we have anybody from canada on here that that knows that might be able to add in a comment or give a little more more context you know we definitely like to hear from some subject matter experts on the issue from canada if we happen to have any um so we have human uh human dancer i was told he bought the guns illegally so i'm not sure who we're talking about but if we're talking about the shooter in uvalde he did not buy the guns illegally so they were all purchased at firearm stores through firearm dealers he did go through a federal background check and because the shooter he passed that background check so because he didn't have any criminal convictions you know he didn't have any felonies on his record a court never found him mentally defective and there were no restraining orders um against him so those are some of the things where if you have any of those things on your record that you know most of the time would make it so you can't buy a firearm i'm sure someone will correct me about the restraining order thing that could be state to state but you know those are typically at least some of the elements that are looked at and are sometimes a barrier to purchasing firearms so he didn't have any of those on his record um so reasonable question to ask is well he was 18. so you know if everything from his juvenile record is essentially sealed the window of time from when he turned 18 to when he bought the guns was like a couple days so well of course there isn't anything on his record so if that's the question or the criticism i think it's reasonable uh let's see um okay s m c g cops are only responsible for enforcing the laws not give judgment not punish someone but to write paperwork and control situation they're out of control yeah i think that's fair um in in in the the i spirit of police officers investigate crimes but it's up to attorneys and prosecutors to prosecute those crimes and then judges to or jurors to determine if someone is actually guilty behind a reasonable doubt yeah so that's that's absolutely fair let's see what else we have going on here in the chat where did he get the money so that was a dj smith thank you where did he get the money so that's a good question and i've actually looked into that and as best i could just trying to see what different media outlets have said about that because he was working at wendy's part time and i the estimate of at least one of the firearms that he purchased was you know over two thousand dollars so where did he get the money um that's a good question no one as far as i know has an answer to that yet um but he was working a part-time job at wendy's so who knows what other funds he might have had but he bought expensive high-end firearms and it seems like you know he was a situation where he wasn't making a whole lot of money but he was living at home so who knows if he was paying rent or had a car payment uh but that that's a great question that we just don't know yet where where he got the money for that but he didn't put him on credit card the reports are that he didn't buy them on credit cards that you know he actually paid in full for these for the firearms and the ammo let's see polk county sheriff grady said openly said we go in and yeah as we talked about last week that's that's standard operating procedure when there's an active shooter police officers go in there is no there's no waiting there is no waiting till you have eight of your best friends there to go in if there's an active shooter whether it's at a school a grocery store any type of active shooter where there is shooting going on the training and the best practices for all of law enforcement that i'm aware of is to you go in as fast as you can towards the gunshots and you take out the person who's causing the harm as quickly as possible that's that's the standard that's the training anything other than that is law enforcement not doing their job so yeah sheriff's like sheriff grady he's on the news all the time he has a lot of really good and interesting statements and yeah he came out almost right away and he made that statement which is a good thing to do so let's see what else we have all right let's see so one other question that we had from last week is the jalen randall shooting in houston so i was asked about that okay so i'm going to talk about that for a second so not to get anybody's hopes up but i i don't have an opinion on that shooting yet but i have a lot of questions about it so jalen randall in houston the video the body camera video from multiple officers are on line on different different channels i believe the houston police department even came out and did a statement about it but essentially it was a someone who had a felony warrant there was a car chase jalen was the passenger the driver of the car fled the police officers used a pit maneuver to stop the car which is for lack of a better term police officers you have to be trained and certified to do this but essentially officers crash into the car and disable the car from moving forward once the car was disabled jalen got out of the passenger side and if you can imagine it the officer pivet who was the officer i believe i'm saying his name right officer pavette who was the shooter in this incident if you can imagine it he was pretty much head-on with the car that jalen was in so jaylen exited from the passenger side and officer pevet i believe also exited from the passenger side so there are so essentially the hoods of both of their vehicles are kind of in between as jalen exited the car he had a couple things in his hand he had a bag and he had a shoe as the officer was giving him commands pretty quickly the officer fires one shot as soon as the officer fires a shot he says oh that was a fatal shot to jalen they did find out later on that in that bag there was a firearm it was in the bag it wasn't he wasn't holding the firearm except that it was in the bag so he had a bag and then a shoe in his hands and that's that's that situation so until we know so a reasonable question to ask is when there's a police involved shooting if after the officer shoots the officer yells or says oh well that should uh that should make reasonable people ask questions like was this intentional or was this not intentional so if we just take a second to go down both of those rabbit holes so if it was intentional then we need to hear from the police officer about why he shot so in order for a police officer to use deadly force their head they have to be able to articulate an immediate deadly threat to themselves or someone else so what was the perception from the police officer on why he fired the shot in that moment we don't know what that is so it's hard to make a judgment on the police officer state of mind now if it was an accident then it's more of a kim potter thing where the officer wasn't doing it intentionally so if an officer uses force especially deadly force and it's not intentional well there really isn't an excuse for that and we know what happens to police officers who use deadly force on accident i mean kim potter just got a little over two years well she got two years but i think after the time already served 16 months so it's it's i'm not saying that you know when it comes to anyone being convicted we can't say that but it's definitely in the realm of a criminal investigation if a police officer uses deadly force on accident or is is negligent in doing so so ben crump is the is the attorney for the family he's made a lot of statements recently obviously he's saying things like he says in most cases which if you're a good attorney represent ben crump or attorneys who represents not just victims of police shootings but any attorney anywhere if they are doing their job they are zealously advocating for their client so they're not necessarily worried about the truth or being fair or being honest or being now they can't outright lie but those aren't the top concerns and they shouldn't be the top concerns so they i mean they can't outright lie but they have to zealously represent their client i i may disagree with a lot of the things that ben crump says because i i don't always think they're true but he does a good job representing his clients and he's been successful in representing his clients which as as an attorney he does well as an attorney in that respect anyways he is representing the family in this case and he obviously wants the police officer he wants the police officer fired and he wants the police officer charged with a crime he's called for that publicly also this officer pivet there was an incident in 2017 where he was charged with either assault or aggravated assault against another individual so ben crump brought that up as well the officer's history now the the history of the officer has most of the time is going to have very little to do with the incident we're talking about but that has been brought up even though the charges against the officer were dismissed in 2019 so that's a little bit on the that's a little bit on the uh jalen randall shooting you know when we have more information i can talk about it more but it's it's it's hard to give any more opinion on it without having some more information though the body cam is available okay uh dj smith says what is nd i'm not i'm not sure we're talking about north dakota i don't i don't know um uh or so okay so i guess it would be negligent discharge so nd so typically in you know when when people are charged at different things uh negligent discharge of a firearm would be nd okay so um as meg said has anyone ever asked you this have you heard of policemen and normal citizens working together and having a cop beat someone and the citizen collect money and share it with the officer no i've never i've never heard of that i said there are hundreds of thousands of police officers some of them aren't good so i haven't i haven't heard of that but if you have a situation where that happened please let us know we can go ahead and talk about it and i just want to thank you so much for asking that that question that was a super chat question and um if you have any more on that please put it in the chat we'd be more than happy to answer unfortunately i just i haven't heard of that happening it seems like if that smcg it seems like if that did happen that would be criminal on the part of the police officer so not only would the police officer most likely violate internal policies but that officer would likely be prosecuted as well and also probably be prosecuted on the federal level for civil rights violations so if you have any information about that happening let us know we'd love to talk about an individual incident but nothing that i can think of that has ever happened so pittman new dj smith's pit maneuvers should be illegal yeah that that's that's uh that's a good point so just really quick on pit maneuvers every department has different policies on that but if a car is going over 30 or 35 miles an hour police officers typically aren't permitted to pit unless deadly force force is authorized and so let's just walk through this just just for a second here you have an individual who committed some type of crime you know typically a serious crime if the police officers are chasing well police officers have a couple different options in order to stop somebody so they can do a high-speed police pursuit through the city in in broad daylight with lots of people around i think we all agree that's a bad idea that's dangerous for whoever they're chasing the police and the citizens any traffic on the road that's not a great idea well we could wait till later until you know this person who you know maybe has felony warrants or has been violent well we could just wait till they get home well then police have to go in and do a no-knock warrant or a high-risk warrant and we've seen how police are not only are they criticized for that but you know people ask why are you doing this this high risk warrant and there's a lot we can do a whole show on that one day and i and i think we should but you know police are criticized for that so when we use a pitman when police use a pit maneuver you have to think okay it's a situation where they have they have to get this person into custody so if the person is driving 10 15 20 miles an hour and the police officer can use the vehicle to disable it it stops the chase makes sure all the other citizens are safe they don't have to go in later with like a no-knock warrant like is this a reasonable thing to do so i think in some situations yes in some situations no um the situation with jalen randall it's you know i from what i can see is the pit maneuver wasn't the issue the issue is obviously at the exact moment that the officer fired the shot that we're all going to have some some questions about um someone said amber heard oh my goodness uh 120 mile pits are pretty epic yeah and if you pit uh let's say typically police officers cannot use the pit maneuver for over 35 miles an hour i think unless deadly force is authorized so pitting at 120 miles an hour would be deadly force police officers also aren't allowed to pit motorcycles again unless deadly force is is authorized so the idea of police officers pitting people for um jaywalking warrants at 50 miles an hour not a thing that typically happens and it and it shouldn't let's see so let's go one more one more question here um and then you know we'll probably wrap this up but before we do i just want to thank everyone again for being a part of this for watching it make sure that you like and subscribe to the channel hit the notification bell and you know we are going to do this on fridays that's typically where we're going to have our live events so we want to keep it up so alexa any questions you might have let us know any topics maybe even if you say we have a bunch of people who want to hear just about no knock warrants and we could just do a whole topic on that and talk about some of the main cases that have been in the news about no knock warrants or any other topic um this show is really for you and to have a sounding board to discuss these really important public issues so one more one more question or comment here let's see what we got uh we have information about pits living car in general um thanks for the discussion awesome content that's so nice thank you so much amber heardsbad turd thank you uh let's see okay well i'm not seeing any other any other questions um in the in the chat but you know some of the other so there's the one the last thing i'm going to say is and we can get into it more next week when we do this that i i think is an important case that's going on around is the tony timpa case in texas so in 2016 tony tempeh had an incident with dallas police officers and he was involved in a mental health crisis police officers he was already handcuffed by security police officers kept the handcuffs on they shackled his legs and he was kind of thrashing around and essentially they put him face down in the prone position with his face in the grass for 13 minutes one of the officers had his hands on the upper shoulders of tony and anin is back for almost the whole 13 minutes while they while paramedics were arriving on scene and um mr timpa ended up dying so this was before george floyd but it eerily similar mr timpa died in in a similar in a similar fashion and uh there were initial charges against the four dallas three or four dallas police officers however the charges were dismissed and this week with what's interesting is that this past week the supreme court so the family obviously wanted to sue the police officers and there are there is qualified immunity both on the federal level and in texas so the they took it the family challenged it all the way to the supreme court and last week this earlier this week the supreme court said that the police officers in this case cannot claim qualified immunity that they can be sued civilly and personally so that that was a ruling that that just came out so that trial will be happening so again this isn't going to be criminal charges against the officers this is the civil charges but it's qualified immunity and the last thing i'll say about qualified immunity and a lot of people have a lot of problems with it and this is another great topic to talk about but with qualified immunity when police officers do violate clearly established constitutional rights which i think happened in the tony timpa case police officers cannot hide behind her or not hide behind or use qualified immunity as a defense so this is an instance where we can look at it objectively where police officers didn't do the right thing and they're not able to use qualified immunity and this is pretty much how this system this judge made law qualified immunity was made it's to protect police officers in dynamic situations who have to make split-second decisions but not to protect police officers who are acting poorly and violating clearly established rights okay so that's how we're going to end it today um i just want to say thank you for everyone who joined in who watched who added comments i really appreciate everybody's uh the the participation everyone please like the channel and subscribe share with your friends also if you want to follow me individually you can follow me at police law news either on youtube or on tick tock i do daily videos short videos about current 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