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when I'm hungry I eat when I'm thirsty I
drink and if I'm hurting I'll say
something man we live in a civilization
where things aren't free on May 31st
20124 officers were dispatched to a
Dollar General in response to a report
of an ongoing shoplifting
incident walking up the sh I need to
figure out what they did huh I need to
figure out what they
did it's not male and female they're
walking up exchange right now what they
do huh what they do stole stuff out of
my
store walking down that way yeah they're
walking right there that's why I'm
standing here take a picture of them
okay what' they take huh a bunch of
Candy Pop all kinds of stuff you want to
come down and sign charges
yep hey did you guys just come to the
dollar
store okay I saw pictures of you guys
coming from the dollar store did you
guys take stuff without paying for it I
gave her a head noot and she gave me a
head back I mean a head noot back okay
well now they're calling on saying that
you guys stu stuff from the dollar store
really yeah well I didn't I let's go
talk over here so we're out of the
street
okay what did you guys what did you guys
take this no the lady I looked at the
lady went like this and she went like
that and I left and we didn't run or
anything okay did you guys open that
stuff did you open
it all right I'm just hungry I'm trying
to go back to my spot and get shoes okay
well do you want this back
no not if it's open I don't have any
money on me that's why we both don't
okay I I understand you guys are ding on
Hard Times all right I just I'm going to
get you guys information and we'll go
from there okay all right info
yeah you guys have warrs no you got War
thing I don't know I don't
know I don't
know is there an ear you have back got
is you got warrants buddy huh you got
warrants yeah probably maybe know okay
you know what I got to do now right all
right just set that stuff down I'll put
you in handcuffs I'll run ma'am you're
not free to go why I said
so
22 ma'am don't go where am I going I'm
going to be out with these nines at
Brown and Krauss more
so
85 85 what what about you h
oh what's what's the issue she you want
to go back we're going probably going to
have to go back okay do me a favor set
that stuff down I'm going to run you
guys' information I got to put you in
handcuffs my man you said you have
warrants right don't reach in your
pockets tell me to get your yeah yeah
yeah just don't reach in your pockets so
turn around for
me all right let's go have and
SE all right
just have a seat
for what's your
name you got anything illegal on you no
I don't any math anything like that you
don't have to show me well I'm emptying
my bra before you touch me I'm not going
to touch you okay I just asked you no I
don't have anymore okay pull your shirt
back down
can I get my chips back please I'm
trying to go to on my house which is on
Herbert on Herbert yeah okay so you guys
went to the Dollar General store I just
grabbed I swear to God that the tall
lady at the register looked she went
like that okay do me a favor turn around
put your hands behind your back why
because I said so
listen don't punch me what is wrong with
you stop stop resisting turn around are
you put your hand your back stop
stop stop stop stop
stop
stop stop pulling away arm back behind
your back stop stop trying to
kick for what knock it
off what is wrong with you I sit right
there what is wrong with you
what is
wrong 22 can I have another Cruiser I
need to put this female in a different
Cruiser for whip I've already got a mail
in
there will
somebody you pinched the out of me
I did yeah let me
see I didn't mean to you didn't mean to
no this was a simple a simple case and
now you made it so much harder what is
it now you're going to jail why well you
pinched the out of me you stole
from Dollar
General can I please can you please let
me go I'm my birthday it's June 5th I
don't give a about your birthday
knock it off what am I
doing I really I was just trying to go
stay right there don't
move good he's
dead
what I don't know what else you're
looking for
friend and the confirmation of another
dead you're
welcome
whatever good if I shut my car up Qui
something to steal it my personal
car stand up what stand
up put your feet under you and stand up
please one two
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can you stand up please put your feet in
the cruiser and sit
down is this reference yeah she pinched
the out me what pinched the
out of me blood pinched you
yeah all right my name is Sergeant basic
okay okay what's your
name what's your name
sweetie what I'm trying to I'm try to
talk to you all right what's your name
what did you do I'm trying to what are
you okay well you don't need to do all
that moving around so I'm just going to
talk to you through the the window okay
what's your name sweetie Anna Anna Anna
what's your last name I don't what it's
dery dery yeah okay it's dery anytime
that our officers aren't able to to
solely just put somebody in handcuffs IE
there a struggle I was sitting on the
curb okay hold on here second of all you
never said you're under arrest okay
doesn't have to it's implied third of
all no it wasn't implied implied when
they tell you to turn around put your
hands behind on your back it's implied
that you're under arrest no okay you you
whoever grabbed me by on the shoulder
all an can I explain to you why I'm here
finish trying to explain to you why I
mean you can try okay trying to but you
I'm trying to listen can I scoot up and
talk to you like a person sure you can
then why did you slam the door in my
face because you've been kicking and
spitting at people and inside this
Cruiser so I didn't want to get K or
spit on I don't want to get touched and
handcuffed for nothing okay well you did
did you shoplift today no you didn't no
I thought it was a courtesy you thought
it was a courtesy yes because you think
restaurant or businesses just give out
free stuff a courtesy well the woman on
the first register said okay okay that
no to me you initially told the officer
that she nodded at you instead so hold
on all right so what I'm going to do is
I'm going to read you your Miranda
warning before I start talking to you in
the first place cuz we're having
conversations that are sted to be
Admissions and and retractions of guilt
so you have the right to remain silent
anything you say can will be used
against you in a court of law talk to
our lawyer and have him or her present
with you before any questioning if you
wish you can decide at any time uh to
exercise these rights who I what am I
getting charged with I can afford to
hire a law won't be appointed to
represent you before any question a
lawyer for who now for you at this point
you understand what I just read to you
no cuz you just said it out loud looking
around okay do you know what your
Miranda Rights are would you like me to
say them again cuz I will at this point
find me guilty for something I didn't do
you will okay do you understand what
your Miranda Rights are I understand
that you're talking and you didn't read
anything off you're looking around
looking at me you're right cuz I'm I'm
quoting them from memory that's good
okay would you like me to say them again
so that you understand them or you have
a question about what they mean heard I
had I definitely heard you the first
time and you weren't looking at me when
you said you understand what they mean
and I said it again they will who
will do you understand what you're to
right to me
I'm on the way to my mother's house okay
and I have to go take care of my
grandmother who lives on her
brick and I'm I am hungry it wasn't a
those
chips I haven't ate them in a while I
was chilling I swear to God I haven't
had those in a ra Fritos if I wasn't
chilling they would be a different kind
or something stupid and I'm sorry that
well I'm not sorry for something I you I
was on the way with my house with myself
so did you take those items from store
no except the chips where'd you get the
where'd you get the chips from I don't
know why I'm dressing it that's what I
okay Anna where did you get the chips
from the ginger yeah what about where
did you get those items from
um I don't Dollar Tree Dollar General
okay the one right down the street on
Exchange I'm not sure there's like okay
but you got them from a store yes did
you pay for them at the store
um I mean no not with money okay all
right did you did you assume that you
paid them some other way how did you
assume in what Manner did you assume
that you paid for them reg no
stop I don't know I am hungry and I
didn't want anything dark I don't know I
don't know okay so you you you said that
you you paid for them in a in a fashion
am of money like store credit store
credit do you have credit and an open
line of credit with the store is where I
be
I'm going to I'm going to say that we
did not pay for these
things no I I cannot that's my I
understand the the drink in the Frito
that I like the chips I get that but you
didn't pay for them you just took them
so the store so the store called and
said that you guys shoplifted those
items from the store and then the
officer found you down here around the
corner wait where right here where we're
standing where you're sitting actually
you guys we're standing right there can
I have can I tell you my agenda for
hold on one second let me finish let me
finish my conversation with you first
okay so the officer came around here
found you guys standing here okay and
and ask you guys to stop what you guys
did you did initially right okay then he
had a conversation got this done not
under 72 hours ago okay this trying to
get it
finished so how much yes you guys to
stop what you did and began asking you
questions about coming from the store or
not and not the one you would ever think
walking I'm on the way to my house I'm
chilling except my sh I should have some
but why would I walk
around you're right okay so here's where
I'm just going to fast forward to the
point here uh when the officer told you
to turn around and put your hands behind
your back he didn't what did you do he
didn't what did he say he didn't say
anything he didn't say anything no okay
so then what
happened I don't know you grab me and I
think felt threatened but I was I was
sitting on the curb you were sitting at
the curb at the time and then I stood up
I I didn't you didn't say you did not
say that okay so let's walk back a
little bit so when he tried grabbing
your arms what did putting you in the
handcuffs response I didn't mean to I
do I didn't okay
orat okay um did the offic or have to
use any Force to place you in handcuffs
um not really not to where I was um
tring not really so well putting you in
handcuffs will be restraining you
understand so scared me a little bit
okay so did he have to so did he have to
like put you in an arm lock an arm bar
did he kick you did he punch you did he
did he tase you did any did he use any
Force double joint so like use force was
unnecessary and he didn't tell me to put
my hand back okay so what force did he
VI that wasn't
unnecessary other than trying to place
you in the Handcuff person run my
hand I get it I can I can walk you
down that road I'm just trying to get
you to answer some very basic questions
when he when
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heever what you're the sergeant under
you m uh he wrong how and why I don't
know I don't know all I know that that
wasn't the right way to do that what
would have been the right way way um I
don't know probably say do you think
that if he would have handed you the
handcuffs and told you to put yourself
in them you would have went I think
maybe he should have ran my name see if
I had any warrants then told me to put
my hands behind my back in the car I
appreciate your perspective on how law
enforcement should work we don't need to
run how it works we don't need to check
people for warrants before they're
placed under arrest for he had warrants
for a completely separate offense I
don't know what you're talking about but
he he personally said I warrant yes all
right so let's start from I'm standing
there guys took property from a store
without paying for it the store called
he found you you you admitted the first
register
lady looked at me and said well it
didn't say anything it was just more so
like you're
good does that mean that you can just
take anything that you want to me it
more like I got like you know what I'm
saying well it's illegal to take things
without paying well how do I pay
something when I don't even have a
dollar on well you can't that's why you
can't purchase stuff right but when I'm
hungry I eat when I'm thirsty I drink
and if I'm hurting I'll say something so
then you need to get money to pay for
this Stu I was on the way to a home that
has no issue with and we live in a
civilization where things aren't
free unfortunately and if you're unable
to pay for them you can go to the home
shelter where they hand out free food I
don't have to go I was just well if
you're that hungry you would I don't
have I don't have a KN for anything
clearly you guys were in a position
where you just sleep last night I just
woke up look how I have nothing to hide
in so fast forward back to the part
where you you said that uh the officer
use unreasonable Force to get you yeah a
little bit what unreasonable Force did
he
use okay what did he what did he say
nothing I don't know nothing you didn't
say anything no you tell you to turn
around no tell you anything no okay
matter of
fact okay you know what I'm saying like
was scar me was just like damn all right
so then what
happened nothing so you're fast forward
from that moment all the way to right
here I didn't I didn't blink I mean what
else would have happen I ran or no I
like did you struggle with the officer
when he was trying to put you in
handcuffs who wouldn't I'm sorry who
wouldn't people do it every day oh well
I have no reason to say in fact it's
actually probably about a thousand to
one that don't struggle that do struggle
okay well I struggled because why he
didn't say put your hands behind my back
okay I don't know what I don't know what
you're proving or trying to I just want
to I want to get my tattoo finished and
I and I was on my way any point in time
do you recall kicking or pinching or
anything the officer no not purposely
not purposely no but it was you did any
of that it was a fight or yes yes is it
possible that you did any it's a figh or
Flight Risk understand by doing that or
attempting to do that could be con uh
construed as resisting arrest I could
see how that looks but I'm not in danger
not a police officer I understand but I
don't you know I don't have a I
have it wasn't out of I don't have any
malicious intent or you know I'm okay
I'm not tripping I'm not high I'm not
coming down I was on the way to my my
family's house to shower I I would
consider some of your behavior a little
bit odd why because you're just not
acting normal how am I I how am I
supposed to act well because your your
thoughts are are discombobulating I mean
it caught me off guard a little bit
you're down a little bit you're up a
little bit you're down a little bit
please leave me alone I want to go home
and and he was he was he was walking me
to the house on that's it so can I ask
you one more time you said that the
officer use unreasonable Force could you
define or put it into words what kind of
symbol Force the officer used he he
grabbed me and put me under constraint
yeah and didn't let me and didn't tell
me to like he didn't okay so your
complaint is that he put you into
handcuffs without telling you you were
under
arrest yeah that's what you're saying I
don't know I shouldn't I don't be I I
didn't say anything at all to be honest
with you okay well do you have any other
complaints or concerns other than the
fact that you're in handcuffs and under
arrest do you like my tattoo yes or
no um it's hard to tell what it is from
in there but yeah it looks great thank
you if you you like it I like it well I
just got it and I'm trying to go get it
finished okay okay is there anything
else no that's it do you have anything
else for me well the address I'm trying
to walk over to with no issue or you
know I don't have a car you want do you
want the address cuz there's no that's
my that's not necessary right now we'll
be back over to talk to you here shortly
okay can you roll the window up yeah I'm
going to do that for you despite the
woman assaulting the peace officer she
was only charged with theft and
probation violation meanwhile the man in
involved was solely charged with theft
do you think the officers were too
lenient by not charging her with assault
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