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Is it possible for me to go to the side or something? I don't want to stand here. This is embarrassing. Excuse me? Can I stand on the side or something? I'm like in the middle of everybody. This is embarrassing. Please. >> No, we're going to stand right here. On September 13th, 2025, police in Secaucus, New Jersey rushed to a Best Buy on a report of identity theft. However, what began as a routine fraud investigation quickly unraveled into something far more complex than officers expected. The following body-worn camera footage details the following events. How's the switch? Oh, that was you that stole me, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Love it, man. Love it. Love it. Uh she's my microphone. Um no, I don't. Okay. You can do this the easy way or you can do this the hard way. You want to do it the hard way, that's totally fine. There was a case this morning of identity theft. Do you want me to grab my ID? Or you can give me your You can give me your information. What? What's your first name? It's Jennifer. Williams. Take both your shoes off. Okay. Uh if you spoke with the police department, it may have been a different department. I'm not finding anything on that case this morning. You want me to read you the search you filed this morning? Uh you got your social? I'm putting you in All right, take your stuff out. Yeah. They have it here. Who has your ID? Isn't it the cop? Okay. Leave it there. You can get my ID from him. Is there a way you can get me a picture of her ID on my camera phone? Is there a way right now? Me? Stand by. He can confirm me on my ID. Excuse me? He can confirm on my ID. He has it in his file. >> The guy. He helped me before here. Okay, we'll get to that. Don't worry. You get You gave the other officer your information, right? >> Yes. Okay. Oh my gosh. 41. Let's put her in cuffs for You're going to be detained now for the the All right, behind. For the investigation. What investigation? Do me a favor, just turn around, okay? Put the back of your hands together. And then take this water bottle. Okay. Hang on. Stop moving. Can I use the bathroom? You guys can stand in front of the bathroom. Got it. Hang on. Okay. I'm trying to make this nice. Got it. First name, Jennifer. Last name, Williams. Last name, Williams. I put the one with the first name first, okay? Uh 41. All right. So, Yes. You can sit up. Sure. So, they're stating that you stole the wallet, opened a Best Buy card in somebody else's name. I didn't. I didn't get to see anyone yet. I didn't even get to see anyone yet. You with a Tina? Me? No. Negative. You got her phone number? Yeah. Oh my goodness. Lord Jesus. Oh look. Look. This is mine. They would charge it before then. All right. Listen. They would have I have them charging it before So, now what? Now what? Conducting our investigation. Right, but what I mean, like what are you guys going to do next? Oh my gosh. What are they accusing you of? I don't know. He said something about identity theft, but that's impossible. Like, you know what I mean? I never I didn't even get to speak to anybody yet. Yeah. All right. Do me a favor, let me hold on to your phone. You're detained right now. You can't be using that right now. What? All right, but can you put it in my bag, please? I'm not going to use it. I promise. No, put it in the big pocket. It's fine. Thank you. Is it possible for them to go on the side or something? I want to stand here. This is embarrassing. Excuse me? Can we stand on the side or something? I'm like in the middle of everybody. This is embarrassing. No, we're going to stand right here. Okay. Do me a favor. Look. What do you need? It's just I want to Look, I let you do it yourself. I just want to call my No, ma'am. I put it away for you. >> call my brother, man. That's all I was asking. >> No, not right now. Okay. You can take care of that later. All right? He can't come with me here so he can go wherever we're going? That's all I want. Oh, you can call him from the store phone. I don't mind. How did you even get here? What do you mean, how? I came to the mall. Excuse me? Came to the mall. Did you drive here? Did you walk here? Did you take a bus here? You got dropped off? Okay. Yes. Have you ever been arrested before? No. You sure? Yes. Okay. This is why I'm like, what the hell? Can you grab me? Just walk with me so I can go to the employee, please? He knows my brother. Just like it's on her call him. Please. I'll walk with you. You This >> What do you need to call your brother for? >> So he knows what's going on. >> Okay. Well, we can do that later. Why do we have to do that now? I just wanted to Please, cuz I don't know what's going on. I wanted to let my brother know so he can come here. >> do his thing and then we'll update you. And then you can contact your brother. We don't have to contact him now. What was her second last name? I don't have a license. No. Literally, my phone died. I had him I had him over there charging. I accidentally have something that's not needed. Did I not pick my phone up from the charger? Yeah. I have chargers here for my phone cuz they sold it. I have a charger for my phone. No, I was here in the mall itself, but here particularly I didn't have a charger on me. I walked in here to charge my phone. I received that phone number is not working. Do you have another? Okay, we can talk. No. I want to read you your rights. Check that. How's her purse? Negative for that party all right. I have any active warrants. 41210 12143 I tried to charge it over here with the thing with the wall. You haven't turned to shopping here or just the charger problem? Just the charger. Working. I'm right next to way back. I'm just staying on him. He's already gone from there. Takes a bus after. Literally, I got my phone from Mobile. It was charging on the desk. I gave it to the employee. I showed him what he got. I didn't even like I need to charge it 10% battery. 37 or Valerio, are you guys getting any more information out of her cuz the name she definitely gave us is not legit. All right, so we're trying to run your information through our system. It's not coming back. All right, so I appreciate your honesty. If it's different, it is what it is. We'll work through it. But we just need your up front honesty. It makes a lot easier. Am I going to have to give my social? Whatever you gave him, is that accurate or is that not accurate? Did you give him your real name? It's Carla Espinosa. All right, do this again. And my social is Hold on. Social security, all right? Take a deep breath. First name, please. Carla. Speak C A R L A. A A R L A. Okay. Espinosa. How do you spell E S P I N O Z E. Okay. Date of birth? Uh Okay. And my social is What is your phone number? And your social? I don't. All right, what's your last address? Um Can I open this? I literally have my social written down. I don't know my social by heart. I swear. Did you give us permission to open it in front? I I he You spell Espinosa with an E or an A at the end? >> It's Espinosa. Espinosa. What are we looking for in your phone? My social security card and number. That's it. Jesus. Listen, Carla. If you're giving us wrong information, you are going to pick up extra charges. You're going to You're only going to make it worse for yourself, okay? >> So I would encourage you to be truthful and give us all the honest information. Your name, your date of birth, your social security. You think I'm turning it off? You think he's finding it in my pocket? Look. >> Will you not stand in the middle of everybody, please? No, we're going to stay here, okay? Please stop asking. Is that the same information or is it a different? No, I I told him Jennifer Williams earlier. That's what it was. Try to pick up the order. She I can confirm that the victim was at Richfield PD did a report this morning at 11:30. I got the case number and the other phone number for her. I'm going to try and call her now, but they have all of her victim statements and everything. The report's not completely done. I haven't done anything this morning. And it indicated an iPad and Apple Air was the fraudulent item. Like I don't know what they said about 11:30 this morning. I was in the room. I got the photo for a while and then I left. I don't know I thought you were talking about me. I'm literally I'm like that's impossible. I was home at 11:30. Check the photo. I saw her already. There. And is it the same one that Jennifer sent me down? Richfield, can you send me a picture of the victim? Do you mind? I know this like You're going to be under arrest for hindering at the very least. I'm just trying to ascertain all the facts. Can you take it off for me? I was there for three different days, so I have three different sets of camera footage to look at. She just provided similar information and it was the victim information. Like I swear I'm not I just want to smoke. My anxiety All right, do you need me to contact the victim for any reason? I have her number. Can you give me your address? I mean, not in this whole thing. All right, of course. You want to help yourself? I'm trying here. We're not getting your Look, right here. Where's the guy? I literally passed him my phone and asked him to charge it. It was just a lie that you were trying to do. He put it there to charge it. Why is Why is that guy trying to say you're trying to pick up an order? That's What order? I haven't placed I swear to Jesus Christ I haven't picked up any orders. You're trying to Ask the guy. No, ask the guy. I never I never said I'm here to pick up an order. That's a lie. That's a lie. I have I am not here to pick up an order. Literally, you can even ask him where did I get my phone from? It was there. What is it? I told you guys that You can't tell me that. So, you're Carla? Yes. Is that the name? Yes, Espinosa. With an E at the end? Or with an A? Espinosa, how do you spell that? Espinosa. How do you spell it? Uh E S P I N I Z A. Espinosa. N O Z A. No, I didn't. You told him E earlier at the end. >> Espinosa is spelled with an E. We literally went letter by letter. How? I'm telling you >> know. You tell me. E S P E N E O Z A. Espinosa. All right. I know this, but I'm I'm telling you literally ask me and I'll tell you the truth. But what you just told me is incorrect. I wrote it down. Even though you went letter by letter, it's still incorrect. Espinosa, is it the same spelling? Do you know Spanish? No, I don't. I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. I know. You're not helping. I know. You got a chance, all right? Yes. Well, for beginners, I wasn't here to pick up an order. That's That's not true. I never asked anybody to bring me an order. I literally gave him my phone and asked him to charge it. You can check the cameras. I went around, tried to unplug the thing, put it in. He said, "No, that those don't work. You can put it over here." When he finished, I was literally here Look what I was typing in the laptop. Here, come. It's all right. Move over. It's okay. I literally was on the notes. Look, typing on I literally was saying that. I swear. I'm going to do anything now. Really? Uh both. I'm from New York and New Jersey. So, where do you live now? Uh both places. I live with my mom and dad now. Where in New York? In Manhattan. And in New Jersey? What about from New Jersey? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you're back and forth between New York and what about New Jersey? I stay with my mom. Where is that? The address that I gave you. Which is? I don't have to give you my address. No, cuz now you're just I gave you two addresses. Look at your notepad. That's where it is. Where is here? I know, but Right now you're on the brink of being arrested for hindering, okay? For what? Hindering. You're not giving us information I can go back Hindering an arrest. Okay, you're getting false information to a law enforcement officer. You're on the brink of that, okay? I'm trying to relieve you of that. He's going to tell you I said literally my name. He's going to remember that. Well, we already did. I didn't come back. That's impossible. I know my social. Like that's my social and literally Carla Espinosa. Do you have a brother or sister? Similar names or not? Like same last names and all that? No. Different name? Their last name is Chiosa. Chiosa? Yeah. That's the spelling for you? >> I O Z A. No, I don't have that last name. Hello. Hi. How are you doing? Sergeant Transue. We're in a little a little bit of a pickle here. Yeah. The victim made some purchases that Can you contact the victim and let her know about the other purchases? You're not being truthful with us with your I didn't They're trying to say that I came to pick up So, you're saying that's not important. Okay, but previous but previously you made some purchases. In the past, yes. Yeah, like for the last couple weeks. Right. Today I literally came to charge my phone. Literally, you can charge your camera. That's all I did. Do you have your ID on you today? Uh yeah. Okay. Where's your ID? I have to get it out. Can you get it out? Richfield, this device is over $4,000 worth of purchases. Thank you. I never lied to you. Okay, so now you have your ID. Well, look, it's the same name. Carla Espinosa. Look, Espinosa. Why did you initially tell me that you did not have your ID? That it was in the car. And then you told me you weren't you didn't get here by car. I took an Uber, so All right. I You guys know Carla, if that's your name, you're really digging yourself a deeper hole. Let me Let me warn you right now. You're getting deeper and deeper. So, keep it up. In the beginning we asked you for your ID. That's my real address. Did we not? When I wrote it I gave it to you I gave you the exact same thing. You know what I mean? I gave him my real information. That's what he asked for. No, it's not. Why do you keep your driver's license in your pants? Cuz I don't have pockets. You have a bag? I lost it. I lose it all the time. Oh, okay. What's that? I have a I have a tool I can take to scan it. What's your real name? Espinosa. That's my real name. Okay, I can keep going with that for right now. >> No, that's my real name. When you asked me for it, I knew what it was. I don't I lost my passport, so I don't have an identification. I know that that's not your real name. So, what I That is my real name. >> Okay, sure. Carla, like literally that's my real name. >> Maybe Carla is your first name, I don't know. Let's be honest, that's my last name. Anyways, what I wanted to say is we're going to find out who you are. I know that. When you when you're going to see that's my name, like I did because I don't have an identification, literally. But that's my real name. Obviously. How do you know that? Thank you. Who's Lisa? My friend. Do you have any other cards or IDs on you? You know I don't. Literally I don't. Look. We're going to have a female officer meet us at the headquarters. Under check. Any more? They lied to you though. I didn't come to pick up the money. And I'm being honest about that. Like I literally came, you can check the video. I wanted to charge charge my Give me a second. I don't like that one because it doesn't um Where do you live? I'm back in Florence, New York, in Jersey. Okay. What are you doing in New Jersey? I came No, I came to Burlington, my phone died. Okay. And literally I walked in here cuz I don't have identification. Started charging my phone. Okay, thanks. I'll take 20 bucks. Huh? You can take 20 bucks. Yeah. No, hang on. Just go ahead and have a seat. Thank you. Yeah. Uh does he want us to go? Uh you can ask him if he wants to All right. The 37-year-old suspect was arrested on numerous charges, including identity theft, credit card fraud, and possession of oxycodone. After officers discovered five outstanding no-bail warrants spanning three states, she was charged as a fugitive from justice and transported to the county jail. Let us know in the comments below, and don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more videos. >> [music]
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