oh yeah yeah there's another when he hit here it kind of cracked it there and and he didn't speed off he just kind of thought might have pulled into an icy Road a hidden run and a driver with a surprising explanation and then she had surgery recently on her thumb and you wearing your seat belt yes no earbags or anything no injuries nothing so the brakes were functional but the anti-lock brakes were not functional what really happened on that snowy night what happened after that stick around his body cam footage uncovers the truth behind this tense roadside encounter hello hi thank you guys for coming in sir it was David yes and your name nice to meet you all thanks for coming in um why don't we start by taking a look at the car if you guys don't mind I assume you brought it with you yes sir okay all right let's go take a peek yeah I figured I didn't hear from you last night that we yep yeah I uh I tried a couple different places this guy owns like six houses or something like that so um I tried a couple different places to see if I could figure out if this is just a misunderstanding or what I can't get a hold of it so we will uh go forward with the report abely I think we're the only ones in the parking lot so perfect easy to figure out which one well and I can see the damage from here that's all it is thing is cracked oh gotcha and we didn't look at him in that Clos okay yeah we obviously you can see the dent there and then yeah it's when he hits here it kind of cracked it there and oh gotcha and I don't know if there's any damage and then these were yeah another crack over there was that there before no that might be oh yeah no that wasn't there before that wasn't there before either and then these were we found sitting right on there pieces of his car I would imagine that's from his car I think I don't know cuz he had a white car too oh I got a couple more pieces I don't think that's from this oh wait I think are those I don't want to give you just dust from my yeah cuz they were sitting right here like right here now they could have moved around I they look like they're from back here there's a chunk missing out of here okay sure yeah here's another piece too they appear to be from that from our car my best estimation we just know that he had a white car as well so we figured we'd just grab it just yeah absolutely can we can we take this off so we can take a look and see if these match it there's a clasp on the bottom there it's terrible when your daughter more there might be more than one class I don't think we it like hits oh yeah yeah there's another chunk there yep yep let's take a look that might be the ho yep that's the whole assembly yeah yeah like I said the weird part is he just and he didn't speed off he just kind of she thought he was going to turn in the ro road that she turned off of and he hadit her hard I mean she said she went forward and Adam Mary King 5 just wondering if these are possibly pieces off of this or not is that's the same color there chos I just can't tell where it would have come from on here they're just not sure if this is a piece of their car or a piece of his it was just kind of sitting on the well actually there's something underneath here there's kind of yeah there's another piece of plas that expain that is kind of so the rim around here probably pieces off of yours then set them there anyway take some pictures yeah you could we'll set this back on here for his photos but you guys might want to put it in the trunk until you get it fixed or replaced all right so tell me what happened um so I was just stopped at the stoplight um right by Target and noodles going so you're headed this way on applon yeah and I was just sitting there and then I heard a bang and it didn't like right away process that was my car but I went like that and then um he was behind me and the light was still red and there was like two cars in front of us so once the light turned green I went and turned into there's like a par Circle right I turned there thinking he would the person would follow me and then they just went straight um I called my parents like I don't know what to do I got HIIT and so they just took off I'm like are you okay right after I hung up a black truck pulled in behind me and I didn't know who they were cuz I had my hazards on thinking like oh maybe they're just helping me and he said I was the car behind the car that hit you I saw him just drive off and he even like seemed surprised cuz he just drove off normally he was like yeah I didn't think he was going to drive off and then gave me the license plate so he gave me his name and um his name and phone number you need to talk to him that you guys what's here and your first we already talked about that and your middle initial date of birth a big day then told her we're not responsible for you any this was the this is what he gave her that's his name and phone number the witness okay is it okay if I keep this yeah absolutely and then she gave you the license you gave gave the license plate yesterday um what's a good phone number for you do you want her phone number or got to get used to giving that out you're in charge now starting tomorrow oh I wish it was although maybe not so much if you're still living in at home yeah she's still in high school finish they still have a little bit of control right just a bit uh home address and what do we got here is it 2008 200 2008 Who the please not one The Falls Merk Waters okay cuz my cousin used to be who was that Annie oh Annie rosinski rosinski yeah she retired she's a marshall now what two and a half years ago rosinski roughly yeah yeah she's my cousin she's related and then um Mr pet Jack was for a long time he hired me best Chief ever yeah I love goes to school with his granddaughter Ellie oepi so we know the family very well such a Wonder many many many many softball games and basketball games sure sure um since she's still technically uh can I get your you same last name is my first middle birth there were some cracks on the cover so I don't know if those are y I got the photogra okay pH number for you 26 oh I'm sorry I giving out my work number same address then yes all right who's the owner of the car I am you are all right and then what insurance company does it have Handover her insurance perfect TR her well and her driver's license if you need that too should be all right it's not suspended or something is it no better not see he still has some control it'll make for a real first day tomorrow so to be better prepared for next time I'm going to take your word for it for today but that's not actually an insurance ID card probably but that's okay that's what we I'll take your word for it today no worries it's all right um so the witness stopped out by you and said that he followed that car for a little while yeah like he I think he might have pulled into like the noodles parking lot but he said I saw him drive away I like got a picture of the license plate and then he said like he turned around stopped by me and that license plate that he gave you do you have it written down somewhere um yeah well he told me to type it in my notes gotcha it was AFC 6230 right um AFC 6230 yeah okay all right well like I said this guy's around here somewhere I'm going to try and get in contact with him okay um so there's there's kind of two ways that this can go hit and run to an occupied vehicle is a misdem um so as long as you guys are on board with being a complainant as for a a misdemeanor charge we're certainly willing to for that out to the DA's office um that is if I can identify him as the driver I know he owns the car but that doesn't necessarily mean he was driving it okay so if I'm not able to confirm who was driving the car the result would be what we call a citation for owner's liability for hit and run which means whether he was driving it or not he's still responsible for the fact that somebody hit your car with his car uh that's not a misdemeanor but it does get a citation issued and gets it documented that at least he's the owner of that car for insurance purposes so after he's done with his photos are you all done with your photos measur we can walk inside a couple pieces of paperwork to fill out um and I'll get you the information for the crash report okay so do they get a citation for like in attendent driving or whatever you just said and action or is that so again if if um if I can figure out who is driving the car he'll get hit and run to occupied vehicle which is the misdemeanor as well as whatever applicable traffic violations there are if I can't say that he was the one driving it the only the only citation that there's owner liability for is just the hit and run got so if I can't figure out not responsible for he said he wasn't driving he can't be responsible for the SC of exactly so the reason the owner's liability thing exists is for is twofold it's one for circumstances like this where I might not be able to get a hold of him to know whether he was driving it or not or if he's trying to protect the person who was driving it it's like well if you're not going to tell me who was borrowing your car then you know here's your citation there we will get um his name correct eventually it will be in the crash report yes exactly CU I work for a law firm so gotcha now the only other the only circumstance where I would probably walk back on the hit and run site would be some kind of you know I've been doing this long enough crazy things happen right um he might have pulled off at the next driveway and sat there for an hour waiting for you to come to him uh I I've had stuff like that happen before but you were there probably for a half an hour before yeah 20 minutes he could have um I talked to one of this guy's family members he doesn't have a cell phone so maybe he got lost trying to find you know maybe you'll have some story about how he got lost trying to find the police department or he thought he was in Brookfield and went to the Brookfield police department and then couldn't figure out where he was you know if something like that happened we'll walk back on the hit and run site and just do what's applicable as far as as far as uh violations if he made an effort to try and report it and just didn't work out for whatever reason but I think more than likely the H run will be the case so couple of pieces of paperwork here and then I will keep you guys updated as far as what I come up with um trying to make contact with him so first things first this is for you because you're the register own of the car okay that's our case number number right there let your insurance company know that the car is involved in a crash they should be able to get a copy of our crash report using that um and then they can give the instructions as far as repair so they get the report we cannot get that correct you you can get a copy of it too oh okay they can help you with an open records request right how long how long does it take to do the report talked in and try it out before it'll be a couple days probably before it's available to you okay um I would say a week tops before you could get a copy of it okay okay um but yeah they can help you out with the the for open Recs all right this right here is for all of you essentially pretty much the same information on there that's my name case number again uh this is what we call a victim's information pamphlet so because it's likely going to result in a a misdemeanor charge you are the victim of a crime um I'm going to be honest most of the stuff in there is applicable to like domestic violence victims robbery victims stuff like that give it a read anything that applies to you feel free to use it um lastly this form gets a little different when that's with juveniles let's take a look so because she's still a juvenile when it happens for a few more hours and when it happened uh I'll have you Dad fill this information in here and then you can list her name right there okay um and then if you wish to put Mom down as an alternate contact you do that if you could fill that form out for me it'd be much appreciated okay I got a pen for you here all right and and then that form gets sent out to our district attorney's office they like to have it on file as a little bit of redundancy for contact information uh because sometimes they have issues getting contact with people say a year from now this goes to a trial or something like that which yeah very very unlikely yeah um so did his family members didn't know where he was uh it's kind of long and drawn out like he's got houses all over the place okay and the family that I spoke to is like 4 hours away from here um they've been trying to get in contact with this guy too um and he's got like two or three different houses down here in the Milwaukee area so I've been going door to door plac well he owns some houses in the area and he owns some houses that are 4 hours away from here too so U kind of hard to track him down well and you know and I mean I'm I the whole issue of you know a citation you know I don't I guess I don't care it's not that important but you know if he didn't know that he hit her and drove away that's scary we had to take my dad's driver's license because he I didn't want this to happen to my dad that's another possible outcome is if that I would like his family to be aware of that I don't remember exactly how old the the owner of this car is but he's an older gentleman um so you know if I get in contact with him and he's got some you know major cognitive issues or something like that that could result in what we refer to as a driver condition report meaning I'd send something out to the DMV saying hey this guy needs to be reevaluated in terms of his trust me we took my D the DMV to be reevaluated he turned on a red arrow and they said you know what why don't you come back and try again try again I'm like seriously the point of it was I always just for it an autom yeah the point of taking him was there was for the DMV to say yes you can't drive anymore cuz he wasn't listening to they did not you out they didn't help us so then we finally told his doctor we said you have to tell him he can't drive because I didn't want him to do this I mean he just drove in the monam Falls area but worried that he was going to hit a kid in the neighborhood sure yeah you hit it's it's unfortunate as as our families get older to deal with that but it's so many times I'm at somebody's house it's like you know 84 year- old Grandpa's still driving and his car is just covered with scratch how many how many times does he burn somebody on a hit and run that he doesn't even know you know the cars can be fixed people can't always be fixed that was my you know concern it's it's difficult I mean it broke my heart when I had to do it to my dad it's Tey you taking all his freedom away you know and then it involved us taking him everywhere too for us you took my license away now you got to start oh yeah all right let's take a look I put my name in the wrong spot at first but that's there n that's all right we'll be okay okay perfect so what I will do is I will be in contact with you guys over the next couple of days while I look into this um essentially get I have a by Statute it's kind of weird I have 72 hours now that I have the report and I have his info I have 72 hours to issue that owner's liability citation so I'm going to give it my best efforts for the next two days here and if I can't come up with anything it'll end with that owner's liability citation if I happen to get in contact with him after that we can always kind of walk that back and and switch the way that we're Prosecuting it but all right all right any questions for me at all I don't so all right thank you very much for your if I have anything else I'll give you guys a call later tonight thanks for your glad you're okay uh yeah that's the most important thing no airbags no and you were wearing your seat belt right okay perfect yeah the only thing you you said you you didn't go forward and then she had surgery recently on her thumb and it just like bang like when he hit me it like banged kind of but that was really only other like this yeah so nothing nothing broken no just scared more yeah I was just more scared that he drove away I was like I don't know what to do like you told me like oh somebody hits you and like exchange information and I couldn't do that shake you up a little bit I told she did the right thing she know pulled over called me and then we came over and had the nice gentleman oh actually can I take a picture oh will his name be on the report I wanted to thank you not witness yeah his stuff will be in the report address and everything will be in okay cuz I just wanted to send to thank you I say thank you very much if you want to keep this I can just write it down okay either or I can just take a here I'll just take a picture of it you know what I'm not that anyway so I'm just your book where everything is yeah just cuz I wanted to thank him for being kind and checking to make sure she was okay right uh actually one last question what time did this happen cuz I know there was a bit of a delay I got a call from the witness before I I was looking for you up there uh oh he called you guys the witness somebody called us I don't know if it was Roy but somebody called us and I was up there looking for you and didn't find you and then it happened at 440 like it was like 4:41 I think and then I called you you came and then we came here or he pulled over talked to me you met me there and then we CU I was over by um um um where Anyan shayon used to be whatever those card dealerships are now yeah I just got off the Fruit by the hospital that new little hospital I was just getting off of there when she called me and said that so I just quick 40 yeah 4145 and then I came over there so yeah cuz I don't know if he called two because he told me like when he gave me the license play he was like I don't know if you want to go to the police station or call them and they'll like come to your house but he said just as long as your mom is coming you call yeah cuz you called me at you were leaving High School you called me 4:32 said you're going to get gas PCO 4:41 yeah and then a 445 call so yeah I'll check the time on that the witness that called too so yeah okay all right all right have a good night have a good evening thank you hello hi I'm officer Holo with monamon fallsy yes I am I'll be right there sounds good how you doing I lost my phone and everything had accident come on come on okay I'm here about the accident can you tell me about that yeah there was I'm coming up the hill there some snow dropped off the top of the car okay and uh I was like whole car and a half back and I got the wheels got underneath it I hit the brake and it the car didn't uh didn't pulse oh the analog brakes didn't work at all okay okay so the wheels were up on the and I hit okay I had plenty of time to stop okay and I couldn't believe I couldn't stop I never had that happen in my life okay I mean a car and a half I had that yeah and it was a lot of snow in the ground the the tires like locked up on you but the yeah so the brakes were functional but the anti-lock brakes were not functional okay gotcha yeah what happened after that well it was so bad now it shook up pretty bad it's just that I wanted to make sure I didn't get another accident so I went try to get home without a problem okay I was taking the back roads instead of the highway up there anyway so where did this happen at at Kohl's by Kohl's on on Appleton Avenue yes that's right okay okay but it happened on the street right yes it was on the street going up a hill so do you you hit this part of your car hit what the van okay what color was the van white white okay maybe a white SUV that' be more accurate yeah okay how come you didn't stop to talk to that driver I I was I'm the supposed to take pills a certain time okay I'm diabetic I'm serious diabetic I'm taking a thousand I'm taking a uh hell a high end diabetic pills M so I want to get home and take my di okay did you try and contact the police at all I couldn't I didn't have a phone even at that time I just got my phone now okay and she just called me I was going to call you tomorrow okay and she told me you understand you're required by law to stop at the scene of a crash though I have another crash and I wasn't sure if that was going to happen Okay well the other driver turned into a parking lot right next to where the crash happened is there any reason you didn't follow her in there I wasn't sure what they going to happen if that guy back it hit me again or nothing wor about that the road it was a white white out at that time okay and uh there was like somebody dropped some snow off the car heavy cuz we had a lot more snow there than yeah it was snowing pretty good A lot of crashes right then you had some snow there like somebody dropped snow off off a big truck off the top okay that's what was bothered me a lot okay I mean we had a lot of s yeah no place down going down further down there was not that much snow but it was snowing but it was not like that on that road yeah it was built up okay and so you you decided not to stop at the scene of the crash just so that you could come home to take medication yes I have to take medication what what's been going on today that you didn't come up and Report the crash today I get the I want got I got the phone and just got it today at 5:00 I got the phone okay but you know that you were involved in a crash so why didn't you report it I just could I report it tomorrow morning okay cuz I thought I'm pretty upseted yeah with everything okay and that's I just I I am very nervous when something like this happens and I want to relax not okay I'm just is it possible that you didn't stop because maybe You' been drinking or anything or I don't drink you don't drink okay okay that's fine I'm not trying to accuse you of anything I'm just no I didn't drink I'm kind of asking like inquisitive questions cuz that's what a lot of times when people don't stop is because of no they actually I'm supposed to drink they said a little bit of wine oh yeah bring my fluster down a little bit I'm taking multiple I recently I a full like of cancer okay up north my Marshfield they said I have cancer and then my cholesterol is up and and I'm taking medicine for so I'm little up tight about is it possible that you didn't stop at the crash cuz you thought maybe You' get away with it not really not really no what do you mean by not not really well got a guy in back me you SE me okay have the license everything all right do you have your driver's license with you yes I do hang on could I take a look yeah I'm going [Applause] go all right thank you sir appreciate it so is this County Road is that the best address to use for you yes okay all right um if you want to if you want to stay in the house and keep warm that's fine uh I'm going to go work on some paperwork in my squad car um do you have insurance for the car yes I do okay what insurance company do you use I use American family okay and you have a current policy with them I have to have a current policy what is that my age I need a current Insurance okay okay simple as that okay behoves me not to have it gotcha all right I'm going to go check on your driver's license here is my insurance man from uh American family I'm sorry Ryan Ryan am family gotcha right I'm going to go put your driver's license info into the computer I am going to be issuing a citation for the hit and run today um I'll get that paperwork for you and then my evidence guy is going to come take some pictures and measurements of your of your car here um and then we'll be out of your hair okay okay what did that happen roughly the photographs yeah probably about 5 to 10 minutes he's on his he's on his way here right now okay thank you all right I appreciate your cooperation I'll be back with you in a few if you want to wait inside no problem so you can stay warm okay thank you [Music] [Music] Henry 222 for d 3 222 1021 28 K 262 955 9678 262 955 9678 puring extra control request [Music] 6345 yeah it's the white Impala right there you talk to him yep did he kick to it yep stay criminal case yep all right do my thing you can put me 106 I got to flly my partner in rout the T to drive our Jack and our spare TI I'm on the off two young what's nice is that the damage on the toyot is about 18 in of yeah damage on fold in his hood is the he must have break and went under you know you can tell he went underneath uh I guess he kind of turned sideways and kind of hit on a little bit of an angle but he he went he clearly went under it you know up the left front portion of the bumper probably did the damage to her bumper and then his hood did the damage to the the tire and everything so thanks y sounds good to see back here couple last questions is anybody else with you no okay and then we wearing your seat belt yes okay no airbags or anything no injuries nothing like that okay driver's license back for you I have two citations here a little bit different instructions for each one okay first one is uh Citation for fair to keep your vehicle under control I understand it I understand it snow and ice um but regardless of that you're still obligated by Statute to keep your vehicle under control um this one has an optional court date on January 10th at 4:00 in the afternoon the address is right here in the upper left corner but uhom Falls so not very far at all from where the crash U January January 10th will be the date for that $136 60 is the fine amount if you're found guilty you either have to attend the court date or you can pay the fine ahead of time by following the instructions here on the bottom okay all right the second one is for the hit and run uh in other words not stopping at the crash not reporting the crash U this one has a different court date it's a mandatory appearance on January 30th that's a Tuesday it's at 8:15 a.m. it's at the wera County Circuit Court on Morland Boulevard someplace different in the courthouse I mean first place yes a different Courthouse because this one this one this one this one's in a police station right there correct right Falls and this one is on Morland Boulevard in the city of wakasa right by uh so it's the wsha County Circuit Courthouse it's it's kind of right in the main down town area of the city Walkera yes sir way over there yes sir that's a hell of a long ways for so the reason being is because this one is a misdemeanor citation it's not just a municipal one like the traffic CIT citation is okay this one does not show a fine amount because it's again it's a mandatory court appearance so you have to be there on that date and time if you have any questions about that courtt appearance there's a phone number for their clerk's office right here for you thank you any questions for me on that no you're pretty accurate thank you for your cooperation I appreciate it um in the future if that were to happen again be sure you stop out at the crash scene okay I understand you're in a rush but I had medicine I information needs to be exchanged between you and the other driver so all right okay thank you for your help I appreciate it thanks for your patience no problem [Applause] [Music] [Applause] thats out at the last second is matches Madison guy play his schoolo [Applause] sh 18 14 362 [Applause] for more content like this like And subscribe