Stay in the car, boss.
STAY IN THE CAR.
HANDS OUT THE DOOR. I'M SORRY. HANDS out
the door. I'M SORRY. HANDS OUT!
COME ON OUT FOR ME.
ARE YOU HAVING AN ISSUE? YES, I'm having
an issue. Okay, what is it?
Come on back for me. Anybody else in the
car?
No, just me.
Are you okay? I'm perfectly fine. Are
you okay?
>> I'm fine. I'm just asking about you. I
mean Okay, don't be worrying about me.
I'm worried about you. Why are you all
over the road?
I had no idea I was all over the road.
>> You didn't? No. Have you had anything to
drink today?
I had a drink before I left the bar
before tonight, but it's that's it.
Okay. Just one. Just one? Yes. Okay.
You can put your hands down now. Okay.
Where are you from? Here. You have your
ID on you? It's in the car. All right.
Would you like me to go get it?
>> No, just give me a second. I'm waiting
for my partner to get here. Your name
is?
Deputy Daniels.
Daniels, okay.
All right. So, how much did we have to
drink today? One One drink before I left
Bloody Mary before I left the bar
tonight. All right. So, why are we all
over the road? I had no idea. I mean, I
have new tires, but I don't know if
anything other than that.
>> Okay, I I was following You got called
in by several people.
Several? I've got called in by several
people. And while I was behind you,
you're all You're going over the right
side, you're going over the left side.
I mean, you can If you want to drive my
truck with my tires my new tires that
kind Okay. Come on. Walk Walk back out
this way for me.
Do you know who lives here? Yes.
My friend. You live here? Yes. I live
here. What's the address here? 20
4130 reference to the vehicle that does
have a hit. Do we have a RP on that?
>> Hit?
Would you mind letting me know what's
going on here?
I already did. You're called in as all
over the road and that you hit a that
you hit something.
What did I hit?
That's what I'm trying to find out.
>> hit anything. So, can you please tell me
let me know what you want me to hit cuz
I I didn't
>> You can talk to him.
What did I hit?
I hit nothing.
Where were you headed to? Right here.
That's where my park is truck.
Can you stay with her? Can you please
tell me what you need otherwise you have
to let me go.
>> All right. I DON'T I GOT TO DO NOTHING.
Excuse me. Okay. I ain't got to do
nothing. You're going to stay here until
we're done with you. THAT'S NOT I I NO
MORE. YOU KEEP TALKING. THAT'S IT. WE'RE
DONE. You can give ME A LITTLE POUTY
FACE ALL YOU WANT. WHERE IS YOUR
DRIVER'S LICENSE? WHERE IS YOUR ID? You
tell me. You tell me mother
I'll go find it. Don't worry about it.
Ma'am. I was married to a
motor cop for 15 years. I don't I don't
have to do all this [ __ ] No. No. No.
No. No. No.
>> not You ask I will not explain you
what's going on, okay? You want to know
what's going on?
>> tell me. Please tell because he is being
So, please tell me. So, then talk to me,
okay? Thank you. You have been called as
a reckless driver that you are not able
to maintain lane. That's
That's that's So, can So, can you please
tell me what I have done?
>> If you're going to be interrupting me,
okay, you're not going to know why
you're being pulled over, okay?
>> [music]
>> You've been called as a reckless
>> I was married. I was I was married. You
don't want to know, right?
>> cop for 15 years. All all care is just
argue with me.
>> tell me what you need from me so I can
go. Okay.
>> What do you need? Right now right now
you are suspect in a hit and run case,
okay? We're investigating. You're
detained.
>> You're detained. You're not free to go.
Hit and run?
>> Yes, that's what we're trying to find
out. What's your name?
>> I'm sorry. I had no idea.
>> What's your name?
>> Okay. Please Please tell me what you're
trying to do. If it's a
misunderstanding, you're going to be
free to go, but we need to find out. So,
you need to relax. We're just
investigating you, okay? Okay. Nobody
Nobody yet said that you were
>> Your namer is
>> right here. Oh, Jesus Christ.
>> It's not Jesus Christ. What's your name?
>> No, it's 2/3 to the way
>> Don't touch me. Can you tell me what's
going
>> you tell me what said that says
>> It's the beauty of Lubanowski. She's got
two different eyes. What What a what?
It's a what? She did Dineski was what?
I'm Heather Sunderman. Heather Sunder
I'm I'm Heather Sun Okay.
Heather?
Formerly Heather Sun Sunderman. I'm
divorced. I was Sunderman, now I am
And uh what is the reason for you to
have two different Because I have
children with the same last name as
Sunderman.
>> How much you had to drink? I can smell
it on your breath. One drink. What
What's one? A spot in here It's just
one.
Can you tell me what the problem was?
>> I'm trying, but you're interrupting me
and you you you only kept to argue with
me.
>> been very fell I've been very quiet. No,
you were you were you were
>> Can you tell me Can you tell me what's
going on tonight?
>> So you So you're going to listen to me
this time without interrupting me what I
have to say?
>> Please. Please tell me what's going on
tonight.
>> going to repeat myself then. You were
called as a reckless driver, unable to
maintain lane. You want to
>> surprising to me.
>> Okay. All right. You You carry on to
argue with
>> you tell me what's going on tonight,
please? Can All right. Guys I'm the
former wife
>> I need somebody to stay with her so I
can find out what the heck is going on,
okay? I would also like to know what the
heck is going on tonight, please. Is
someone hurting me? Is someone gone?
What what what We're trying to figure it
out, okay? What's your name?
Heather. Heather. We're trying to figure
out One moment. I'm going to grab my
phone.
>> No, you're not. Yes, I am. Yes, I am.
Stay right there, please. Excuse me?
You're detained right now. 4130 I need
my phone. It's No, you're not getting
>> I need my phone. No, not right now.
Excuse me? Not right now? Mhm.
Mhm.
What did you say? What did you say?
Deputy Martin Reyes. Martin Reyes?
>> Yes, ma'am. Please call Deputy Key West
police officer
Who?
Who do you want me to call?
Bob Brett.
How are you doing? All right, what's
going on? Are you uh how are you
related?
>> So, this gentleman had his blinker on
and he was going like 30 35 miles an
hour.
>> Okay,
who are you? I'm Mark. This is my car
right up here. I was right behind this
You're the one who called us.
>> He's the one who called you.
>> Okay, let me talk to you for someone to
be right with
So, you're the one who called us.
>> Yes. Tell me what's going on. She hit me
when I was pulling out of Sugarloaf
Boulevard and then she kept she took
off. So, I turned around and chased her.
She did a loop, come back on US1. And I
called the deputy. Well, I called the
sheriff's department. Called her. This
gentleman asked me cuz I was only going
35
>> When he passed me, he realized that this
guy was messed up because he was
swerving back and forth. The lady was
swerving back and forth.
>> Okay. And then you I guess you or
somebody else pulled him over. When I
did that, that's as far as I know. All
right, do you have the damage to your
car?
>> Yeah. Pablo
Is that the old guy or the young guy?
He's my age. Is that old is that is that
old to you?
>> I don't know what your age is. How old
are you?
>> I'm sorry, but if you don't know what my
old
If you don't know how old I am, you have
no right business
you.
you. Why you got to be rude? I'm not
being rude to you. Yes, you are. Why am
I being rude to you?
You know what you're doing. Yes. So, she
sideswiped you. Yeah, she sideswiped me
in the light. She's turning into
Sugarloaf Boulevard and she didn't make
it. She just hit me. Okay, so she's
going to have a damage to the driver
side of the vehicle, right? She should
have it to this side.
Yeah, so the driver side of the vehicle.
She should. 15 years. Okay, 15 years
what?
Robert Mhm, Robert
>> Sunderman. Who's that?
Key West Kitty. Okay, once again, we are
not in Key West. I know.
Neither were you when you followed me. I
just got here. I don't know what you're
talking about. Oh, I don't know. Did you
pull me over? That was me.
That was you pulled me over.
Where were you when you pulled me over?
Right behind you. Where? Right behind
you. Where? Right behind you.
Where? Right out here. You think I don't
know? Where was I then? Give me my phone
and I'll tell you. Where was I? Well,
why? Cuz your friend behind you
called you?
>> Stay right there. You're going to be
placing handcuffs. Do you understand?
No. I'm going to walk. You're going to
be putting handcuffs if you don't relax.
>> Please, please call We're not calling
anybody. Please call
>> not calling anybody.
an adult, okay?
>> PD He's not going to be able to do
anything for you, okay? Why are you
doing this? Because you're detained
right now. And if you keep trying to
walk away, you're going to be
handcuffed.
>> Why am I being detained? Because we're
conducting a criminal investigation,
okay?
>> For what?
>> For crash hit and run. Who did that? And
how much How much do we really have to
drink?
>> do anything. One Bloody Mary, one. Just
one?
>> One. Yes, just one. Give me my phone and
I'll
>> not going to get a phone.
>> be cooperating. Ma'am, you're not going
back to the vehicle, okay? I want to
talk to Detective Pablo
of the Key West PD and I want to do it
right now OR I'M GOING TO
Where was my
You need to relax. CALM DOWN. THEN CALL
HIM.
>> I'm not calling HIM. I'M NOT CALLING
ANYBODY.
>> going to relax until you tell me that
you're GOING TO CALL HIM. OKAY, so I was
just behind this gentleman and he was
had his flashers on and was going like
30, 35 mph and I was like, all right,
I'm going to get around this. I don't
know what he's doing. As soon as I get
ahead of him, I see what he was doing.
This person is all over the road. So, I
did the same thing he did. I just hung
back. When we were pulling up on this
past bridge, you were the other officer.
I saw you pull out right behind me and I
knew exactly what was going on. Then you
were waiting for that person and that's
when I pulled over to the side so you
could get around me and get behind this.
Okay, so so you didn't witness
>> not damaged. You didn't witness the
crash.
>> No, sir.
And you basically just witnessed her
like being all over the road. Yes, sir.
That's it. Yes, sir. All right, you're
good to go. Thank you. Thank you. We're
not calling anybody. Okay? You're an
adult. I WANT MY PHONE.
PLEASE CALL PABLO. I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
I haven't hurt anybody. You failed to
obey my commands to stay still.
>> No, I have not. You did not tell me to
stay still.
>> Sir, stay right there or you're going to
be placing handcuffs.
>> Did he tell me to stay still? No, he did
not. We both did. No, he did not.
>> Yes, WE DID.
>> PABLO!
WILMA! LINDA! LET ME CALL MY FRIENDS,
PLEASE. You can relax. No, you're no
What you're doing to me is unfair and
it's unjust and it's not right. Linda!
>> [music]
>> LINDA!
LINDA! HAVE A SEAT. RELAX. I am relaxed.
Have a seat.
>> LINDA!
YOU DID NOT CALL PABLO. I'M YOU NEED TO
HAVE A SEAT. YOU'RE going to have a cop
>> HAVE A SEAT. YOU'RE HURTING ME. YOU'RE
HURTING ME.
YOU'RE HURTING ME. I'M VERY
>> OUR ORDERS. SIT DOWN OR STAY STILL.
PABLO!
PABLO!
LOWER.
WHY ARE YOU DETAINING ME?
>> BECAUSE you're failing to comply with my
legal lawful orders. I haven't done
anything to you.
>> I I tried to explain to you, but you're
not listening. I don't know WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO ME BECAUSE I DON'T
SPEAK ENGLISH.
LET IT ON
LET ME OUT, THEN, PLEASE. I DON'T
>> NO, YOU'RE NOT DETAINED. You are
detained.
>> I ONLY SPEAK ENGLISH. WHAT? I DON'T
SPEAK ENGLISH?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. PLEASE
SPEAK
>> DON'T BE RACIST to me. I'm Excuse me?
Yes, you're telling me I don't speak
English?
>> You think I'm not from here? I don't
know where you're from.
Then why are you speaking to me like
that? Then why are you
making fun OF MY ACCENT?
APPLE!
PABLO! [screaming] OH!
PABLO!
PABLO! HEY, WHAT'S THE PABLO? YEAH,
YEAH. I GOT I know better than that.
Yeah.
Pablo said you're on your own. Excuse
me?
>> Pablo said you're on your own. I want to
speak to him and he can tell me himself.
>> to talk to you. Please tell me what
you're accusing me of.
>> Crashing into something and leaving
What? Click it. What? What did I crash
the industry of a month That's what
we're trying to find out. I will call my
ex-husband. Call my ex-husband right
now. You need TO RELAX.
>> CALL HIM RIGHT NOW! I AM NOT CALLING
ANYBODY. HOW OLD ARE YOU? YOU'RE AN
ADULT. You are a GROWN WOMAN. I'M A
GROWN WOMAN. YOU'RE A GROWN MAN. LET ME
OUT.
>> NO, YOU'RE BEING DETAINED.
>> MAN. YOU ARE DETAINED.
>> IF YOU SAY I'M A GROWN MAN, YOU let me
walk away. You are detained. PLEASE, MY
DOG. MY DOG NEEDS TO GET OUT. WHERE'S
YOUR DOG? He's in my bus. He's in your
truck?
>> Yes, in my not my truck, my bus. What
bus? Please take me to my dog.
>> What type of dog you have? He's a
Labrador. He's not going to hurt you.
>> two dachshunds, one pitbull.
>> Dachshunds are awful. What? And dog and
pitbulls are awful. Dachshunds are
awesome.
>> They're terrible. No, they're not.
>> They're terrible. Please take me to my
dog. They're the BEST DOGS EVER.
THEY'RE my family. Please take ME TO MY
DOG.
PLEASE TAKE ME TO MY DOG. OKAY, STEP
AWAY FROM THE CAR, MA'AM.
>> TO MY DOG.
>> MA'AM. NO, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DETAIN
ME WITHOUT NOT telling me why. Okay.
Where's my dog?
>> Okay, I want to explain you what's going
on. I DON'T WANT an explanation. I want
out. You're being being dishonest.
>> Wait. Imagine that I am your wife. How
would you want SOMEONE TO HANDLE NO,
imagine that I am your wife. Imagine
that you Imagine that you I am your
wife.
>> CAN YOU STOP CAN YOU STOP
>> STOP!
NO! CAN WE TALK LIKE
ADULTS? NO! OKAY, THEN THEN WE'RE NOT
GOING TO talk at all. No, we cannot stop
at all. If you can transport, I'M GOING
TO FOLLOW.
>> [laughter]
>> STOP KICKING. THEN LET ME OUT.
RAY, SHE KEEPS KICKING MY DAMN DOORS.
LOOK, you're going to get sprayed. THANK
YOU. PLEASE. PLEASE LET ME OUT. PLEASE.
I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ANXIETY. Please
just let me. Please. LISTEN. PLEASE MY
ANXIETY IS PLEASE
DADDY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IT'S
HAPPENING.
>> OKAY? LISTEN. PLEASE. MY ANXIETY,
PLEASE. Please let me breathe.
Please let me breathe. Otherwise you're
going to have
Please.
Please let me breathe. Ma'am, you're
Please let me breathe.
I can't breathe. You can [laughter]
breathe if you comply with me.
>> let me breathe. Ma'am, I'm going to let
you outside. Please let me breathe.
Please. [laughter]
Please. I don't THINK YOU GUYS WANT ME
STUCK IN THERE.
THAT'S CASE ON YOUR
PLEASE.
MA'AM, YOU NEED TO RELAX.
>> [screaming]
>> HE'S FOLLOWING
>> [screaming]
>> RELAX.
LET ME GO.
LET ME GO. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SPRAYED.
LET ME GO. PLEASE LET ME GO. PLEASE LET
ME GO.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET SPRAYED, MA'AM.
Just stop.
>> Either you're going to comply or you're
going to get sprayed. I'm not playing NO
MORE GAMES. STOP. I KNOW HOW YOUR
[ __ ] GAMES WORK.
>> [screaming]
>> PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE JUST PLEASE WAIT.
PLEASE JUST STOP. So we're so [ __ ]
bad. Ma'am, you're right under arrest
and you're going to keep getting more
charges if you don't comply.
>> I'm giving you a direct order to stop
resisting.
>> You think I don't know what that means
in your Yes. language. Yes. It means you
can spray me if I don't.
>> I'm ready to do it.
Which means you're a [ __ ] person. Yes, I
am. Stay still. You [ __ ] person. You're
all Oh, just because my EX-HUSBAND IS
MORE POWERFUL THAN I AM? I HAVE NO IDEA
WHO YOU ARE. I have no idea who's your
husband. And you don't care what he did.
He's a [ __ ] You shouldn't be drinking
and driving, okay? person. You shouldn't
be drinking and driving and putting
everybody else in danger. Drinking and
driving? I was NOT DRINKING AND DRIVING.
I WANT PABLO.
GO AWAY!
GO AWAY! GO AWAY, YOU'RE A
SPRAY, SPRAY. DON'T, DON'T, DON'T,
DON'T. Stop it. YOU'RE FULL OF IT.
>> [screaming]
>> SHERIFF'S OFFICE. YEAH. HELLO. SORRY TO
BOTHER YOU, SIR. Do you know a Heather?
Yeah. Do you guys have her dog or
anything like that? Have a what? Does
she live here? Yeah. She lives here,
okay. Uh, she got arrested for DUI. Did
she? Yes. And she hit a she she got
arrested for hit and run and DUI. And
she was very concerned about her dog.
So, I don't know if she's just making a
dog up or there's a dog here. I don't
know where the dog is. She's saying
there's a Boston Spark out here. I don't
know what It's a what? A Boston. Yeah,
that's over here. Our RV. So, she's
saying her dog is in there. Okay.
>> Okay, and she's very worried about her
dog.
>> She probably wants somebody to take the
dog out for a walk. Can you guys take
care of the dog? Yeah. Thank you.
Appreciate it, sir. Thank you. There,
would you mind if I asked this chick her
name? Uh She got She did She left the
scene of an accident.
>> Yes. She got drunk. Yes. Are you guys
like family or My wife is a good friend
of hers. She's been helping her out.
She's in jail now? She's on her way,
yes. Okay. Thank you. All right, sir.
Have a good night.
Thank you FOR FINALLY LETTING ME GO.
EVERYTHING is going to know
This is all under surveillance. You're
following So you know what this is.
You're all getting watched. And when
they see what you've done to me, you're
all going to jail.
I haven't done anything TO YOU. OW!
OW!
DO YOU SEE HOW STRONG I AM? I'M SO TINY.
PLEASE, STOP. HOW HOW HAVE YOU TREATED
ME SINCE I've been here? Oh, I ain't
even going TO TREAT YOU BAD YET. NO, YOU
HAVEN'T. BUT YOU GO have an ask. What's
your name? Can I see your name? HE WON'T
TELL ME HIS NAME. Make him say Meeks is
his name. My name is Daniels. Daniels
what? Daniels. What Daniels?
>> Deputy. Oh, yeah? Talk to Pablo. Can Can
we get dressed first? TALK PABLO.
>> [screaming]
[screaming]
>> LOOK AT ME. YOU STUPID [ __ ]
VIDEO SURVEILLANCE RIGHT NOW. The fact
that YOU'RE MAKING ME PISS MYSELF IS
YOUR FAULT AS WELL. I AM THE FORMER wife
of a police officer.
You stupid [ __ ]
And you're going to pay.
Pay. All of you ARE GOING TO PAY.
IT HURTS. PLEASE STOP PULLING MY ARMS.
IT HURTS.
THAT
THAT HURT RIGHT HERE. I PISSED ALL OVER
MYSELF BECAUSE THESE ARE
AND IF YOU'RE DONE LAUGHING AT ME, YOU
KNOW THAT'S GOING IN YOUR REPORT, RIGHT?
YOU KNOW THAT LOCKING and laugh and
No, LAUGHING AT ME AND LOCKING ME IS
GOING IN YOUR REPORT, YOU STUPID [ __ ]
UH BY THE by the walls I can keep an eye
on her. The suspect takes the next hour
to finish her booking process and very
slowly calms down. When she's allowed to
leave, however, she still doesn't fully
cooperate.
Can you stand here, please? Signing
those citations, it's not admission of
any guilt. First citation is for a DUI
and I'm going to need your signing here.
What's the next one for? It's a for DUI
with property damage. What property
damage? What
what property was damaged? The other
car. What other car? It was the car you
hit.
I didn't hit a car. Okay, that's going
to be uh for the judge and for the
lawyers to decide. It's for a hit and
run, so you need the crash in The crash
happened on the corner of uh Sugarloaf
Boulevard and US1 when you were turning
left into the Sugarloaf Boulevard. Okay.
I didn't go to Sugarloaf Boulevard.
Okay, ma'am.
Anyway.
right here, what I saw,
that's what you're being charged. On the
top of it, you're being charged with
resisting arrest with all the violence,
and for assault on the law enforcement
officer, you tried to beat and tried to
bite sergeant. Okay? Yeah. The pants th-
th- th- see The ones that they stuck in
my pocket? This. Can I please put that
in my pocket?
>> Okay, you again not letting me talk.
I'll try to I'm trying to explain this
on your cake. But you weren't the one
who put it in
>> I'm not going to charge you with it. I'm
just going to put it to the property for
destruction.
I don't care. Otherwise, it's I can
charge you with felony if you would
like.
>> destroy it. It's fine. Okay. All right,
it's going to be destroyed. I appreciate
that, by the way, because they took this
in my pocket.
Who put this in your pocket? Whoever
arrested me, whoever dragged me out of
my truck, and bruised me up. Yeah,
that's insane. Just go with sergeant.
This suspect, Heather, was charged with
driving under the influence, hit and run
involving damage to property, resisting
obstructing without violence, simple
assault on a peace officer, and driving
under the influence causing damage to
property. She took a plea deal, pleading
guilty to driving under the influence
and resisting obstructing without
violence, and pleading no contest to hit
and run involving damage to property,
while the other charges were dismissed.
Heather was sentenced [music] to 12
months of probation. Have you ever
watched someone so intoxicated that
reality and language start separating
from each other? Well, that's what we
saw here. Words started slipping,
sentences didn't make sense, and
suddenly we got lines like, "That's
where my park is trucked." She doesn't
just have attitude, she has impairment
that's showing itself. Now, the National
Institute on Alcohol Abuse and
Alcoholism explains that alcohol
interferes with the brain's
communication pathways, which affects
areas responsible for judgment, balance,
and speech. So, when the brain starts
struggling to organize words, that's
often one of the earliest signs that
something just isn't right. Then comes a
line that probably made a few cops
watching this smile a little, "I'm the
ex-wife of a cop." In my experience, the
moment that gets said in a traffic stop,
every officer knows this interaction
just got a little bit longer. Underneath
the mess is a serious reality because
officers aren't trying to win an
argument. They're trying to stop someone
whose judgment is clearly compromised
from getting back behind the wheel. Now,
she ended up with probation, which means
the real question isn't what happened
here tonight. It's whether anything
changes before the next traffic stop
starts the exact same way.