Don't you TOUCH MY SON >> WHILE you're back. You just threw that in my face. It hurt my goddamn eye. >> YOU ARE GOING TO TOUCH YOURSELF. OKAY. >> Black people on the white beat up white. >> You mother. >> You mother. You slam my son's head. You're dead. >> You pull a gun on me. >> Wonder my phone. >> Matthew. Why would you do that? >> You're You're dead. >> HEY, >> I'M NOT LEAVING. All right. I'm going off the property. >> No, you're not. You're going to jail, too. >> No, I'm going off the property. >> You got two handcuffs. >> No, you're hurting me, >> Matt. Hey, you might have got me two handcuffs and then I put her ass. >> I'm going off the property. >> I didn't do anything. >> Yes, you did. Drop your car. >> I didn't do anything. >> Stop resisting. >> You're going to break my arm. >> Well, you better stop resisting. I'm not trying to. I'm trying to detain you. >> Mom, I hate you. You >> That's not very nice. >> I don't give a You're mom and that's it. >> Yeah. Just ask for her. >> You're dead, Mom. On April 17th, 2024, a trespass call at a Circle KM became a 19-minute body cam arrest, raising direct questions about property law, proportional force, and an officer's duty of care toward a detainee claiming cardiac distress. >> Ma'am, >> yes. >> Officer Lou with the city of Mel Police Department. >> Yep. >> We got a call over here at Circle K, and they're advising that they need to close and you're refusing to leave. I think it's probably because you're out of gas, right? Right. >> Okay. Let me see if you're allowed to maybe leave the vehicle here right now. >> I have the gas can. >> Okay. Do you have vehicle? Do you have gas in there? >> I'm waiting for my mom to come. >> Okay. >> Hello. >> Listen, I don't know what you're trying to do, but >> I am sitting at Circle K with no gas. >> Well, it's not my fault. >> No one said it is. It's not my fault about anything in your life and how you need mental help. >> Okay. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. I'm going to send the um mental health coordinator over. >> I wish you would. >> Okay, ma'am. I'm not here to argue. I just want to >> make sure they're here so they can evaluate you also. >> Okay. Listen, I need gas. You're going to help me or you're not. You told my friends to figure it out. >> She says she's not going to help you. Okay. >> Nancy. >> Okay. >> And how much about me did you talk to my friend? >> I'll be right back. I'm going to ask them if they want this vehicle towed from their lot cuz it doesn't look like you got any. >> Okay. Well, let me go ask. Okay. >> Mom, you don't have a daughter. >> You want to grab the tag? We just was out with him not too long ago. They're close. >> Yeah, they're close. I don't know where they at, though. >> Hello, ma'am. Officer Louis Mount Police Department. I think you were here the other day when I was here. Okay. So, they're out of gas. She >> apparently she I don't think she's going to get any gas. >> No, my systems I'm in a store upgrade right now. >> Yeah. >> All my systems are down. >> Okay. So, uh, do you want are they allowed to wait for gas or >> No, I need them trespass because they've been caught stealing. Okay. >> This is the second night she's came up here yelling at me, honking her home. >> Okay. >> So, what about this? Their vehicle is stuck here. Do you want to call a tow truck? I don't I can't call one for you. It's on your property. >> Yeah. >> But do you want to call a tow truck to have their vehicle towed somewhere? >> Okay. Yeah, I'll have the I'll call my boss >> cuz I can't Their vehicle's stuck, but you know what I mean. It was a hard like I wasn't going to call but cuz she kept like still trying to yell at me and at me. I'm like this >> I'm aware we we've dealt with her numerous time. That was the first time I dealt with her but the other officers dealt with her multiple times. >> So I'll do you want her just trespass or the son as well? >> Both of them. Okay. Well, we'll we'll go ahead and trespass them. If they refuse to leave, would you like them arrested? >> Okay. All right. Do you have your ID with you? >> I do. >> I'll be right back at this door in a second with ID. Make sure you get on the tow truck cuz I got to make I got to confirm and put that in the car notes. Okay, they're close. >> Hello, ma'am. So, I understand that you don't have any gas. Okay, she's calling the tow truck, but for right now, she wants y'all trespass from this property. Okay, >> she's not trespassing. Listen, I already spoke to the manager. Him and I are like this. >> I understand that, but she wants you trespassed. Okay, >> I don't care if she's nobody. >> She's going to get a sworn statement and then she's going to trespass you. >> She's nobody. Can you get ID from you? >> Hello? I don't have ID. Hello. >> Hello. >> We'll take your name. Okay. >> Are you coming? >> Why? I can't find it down here. >> Oh, well, my my so-called friend Pete came and got it. Why don't you call have her call the manager of the store? >> Is this vehicle research to you? >> No, it's my mom answering it. >> Oh, okay. >> Why don't you have her call? >> Ma'am, she's I don't have to tell do what you got to do. Okay. >> By the way, she's really nasty. >> Yeah. So, the gas can is here. I just need to get their gas now. They're trying to tell my car. >> Just come and tell them that you don't want them here. Okay. And if she doesn't leave, she's going to be arrested. >> Can I have my store manager on the phone? >> The store manager is on the phone >> and I'm the assistant and we are both saying that you have to leave the property. >> Did you hear that, ma'am? >> All right. Yes. >> Okay. She's saying if you don't leave the property, we're going to arrest you. Do you understand that? >> I didn't do anything for you to arrest me. >> Okay. >> Call my >> All right. You right. Raise your right hand. >> Swearing to test that everything you told me is the truth. >> Yeah. >> And nothing but the truth. >> Okay, ma'am. Just stand up front there. You call that tow truck? >> Yeah. I'm on the phone. >> Perfect. Did you hear that? >> Can I speak to uh >> No, she doesn't want to speak. Okay. So, I'm going to ask you now. She is the man. She's right now. She's the authorized person. Okay. So, I'm going to ask you to leave the property. I understand this is your vehicle. >> It's not your car. It's your mom's car, right? >> No, it's in both. >> No, you said it's You said it's not under your name. >> I said it's in both names. >> No, you said it's your mom's. >> You know what? You need to start recording stuff. >> I'm recording. >> Ma'am, >> I said it's both. >> Ma'am, we're not going to argue with you. Okay. So, now >> arguing. >> Sir, that's you as well. Okay. So, you got to leave the property. >> Um, we didn't do anything. >> Okay. >> [ __ ] >> Ma'am, I understand your vehicle. Okay. We're going to tow the vehicle, but you cannot be on the property. I tried to explain it. >> My car. >> Ma'am, I'm going to ask you to leave again. If you don't leave, we're going to have you arrested for trespassing and resisting. >> You cannot tow my car. as well. Matthew, >> don't call me my name. I don't know you. >> 31, can I get another unit, please? >> We're not in each other. >> Okay, Matthew. >> The legal foundation is Florida statute section 810, poor conveyance. Once an authorized representative withdraws permission to remain, your continued presence is a criminal offense. An assistant manager acting in her role qualifies under that statute. The argument that you cannot comply with a trespass order because your vehicle has no gas finds no support in that statute. Florida statute section 810.09 requires you to remove yourself from the property. There is no logistical hardship exception. The US Supreme Court addressed property based seizure in Florida versus Bostic 1991. What matters is whether a reasonable person would have felt free to leave. Once a formal trespass warning is issued, there is no ambiguity on that question. >> You need another one. >> It's He's 97. We have two subjects refusing to get out of the vehicle and they're about to be 10:15. Well, the one >> Where's my car, please? No, you're going to break my door. >> All right, man. Step out. Hey, Matthew, leave the property. Leave the property. Matthew, leave the property. Matthew, >> Matthew, leave the property. You're going to be arrested. Leave the >> DAMN BACK. >> Don't you touch my son. says, "While you're back, you just threw that in my face. It hurt my goddamn eye." >> YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL. >> OKAY. >> Black people on the white beat up white. >> You mother. >> You mother You slam my son's head. You're dead. >> You pull a gun on me. >> Wonder. >> Mom, my phone. >> Matthew. Why would you do that? >> YOU'RE YOU'RE DEAD. >> HEY, >> I'M NOT LEAVING. All right. I'm going off the property. >> No, you're not. You're going to jail, too. >> No. I'm going off the property. >> You got two handcuffs. >> No, you're hurting me, >> Matt. Hey, you might have got me two handcuffs and then I put her ass. >> I'm going off the property. >> I didn't do anything. >> Yes, you did. Drop your car. >> I didn't do anything. >> Stop resisting. >> You're going to break my arm. >> Well, you better stop resisting. I'm not trying to. I'm trying to detain you. >> Mom, I hate you. You >> That's not very nice. >> I don't give a You're Mom. That's it. >> Yeah. Just ask for her. >> You're dead, Mom. I am just I can't >> stop. >> Stop. Stop moving. >> I need you to stop resisting. Okay. You need to stop resisting. >> I'm going to have a heart attack. >> Resisting, ma'am. I'm not trying to have you have a heart attack. I need you to stop moving. I don't want you to hit us as well. >> I'm not going to touch you. >> Let go of my head. >> Stop moving, ma'am. >> Nancy, help me. Matthew IS >> same 33. >> Yeah. >> Or 38. >> Same. >> Black people are going to jail cuz you guys >> killed black people everywhere. I >> like this one too. >> My phone on the ground. >> Why you car stupid? I didn't mean to do that. >> Matthew, do you have anything illegal on you? >> No. >> No. Okay. >> All right. I'm going to roll you on your side. Okay. >> Don't push me up against it. ass. >> You're making trouble for this. I swear to God you are. You're going to jail. See, I'm going to jail. You break my arm, >> man. Just lean. Just lean on the car. That's it. That's all you got to do. We're not letting go of you. Okay. >> Let me go. >> It's not going to happen. >> Yes, it is. I can't breathe. Let me stand up. >> You're standing. >> Let me stand up. I cannot breathe. I want >> I want fire rescue. You better believe it. >> No, you best believe it. Did >> your head get hit? >> No. >> Have a seat, Matthew. I'll grab your stuff. >> Oh, don't sit in my car. >> Have a seat, Matthew. >> No, don't sit. >> Oh, no. He's not. >> Yeah, she hit me in the head. He hit me in the head. >> He didn't touch you. Liar. >> We're call we got fire rescue on the way. >> My son didn't touch it. >> Okay. They also see him. He threw a phone at me and it hit me right here. >> That's your fault. >> Okay. All right. So, we have fire rescue come check you out. Is that cuz you have heart issues? >> Yes. >> Yes, ma'am. All right. >> And my son's disabled. So, if you touch him, you go to jail automatically. >> Okay. >> Black, yellow, white, it don't matter. >> And you broke my arm. >> Okay. I can't breathe. >> You don't have ID with you, right? >> I just want to stand up. >> Do you have ID with you? >> No, he's putting pressure on my back. >> Well, we don't want you to lean up. That's the thing. >> I don't I can't breathe. >> I have heart issues, you dumb >> Okay. Well, what do you want me to do? We have >> I want you to stop. You're standing up, but you have hurting me. We're not trying. >> I didn't get a chance to call. You're pulling up my dress. You're looking at my >> You are throwing a lot of things at us right now. Not. >> I didn't do >> My son dropped his phone cuz of you. >> Now you can buy him a new phone. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> What's your first name? >> Boogeyman. >> Are you refusing to identify yourself? >> Leave me alone, man. >> J A N E T. Middle initial. >> Matthew, I'm talk to you. Okay. Don't kick your legs out or anything. >> I clearly didn't mean >> What did I tell you where you were sending the car, Matthew? I don't want >> to leave. >> And what did you do? >> I was going to leave, but I >> I just, you know, >> I came here the other day. >> You want to know why I >> I'm talking to you. I'm talking about right now, Matthew. When I asked you to leave, what did you decide to do? >> I wanted to know after that, >> you know, she the one that called the police. >> Okay. But remember when I told you to leave, what did you do, Matthew? >> I didn't leave. And then you you yelled at her, right? >> Right. >> And you began to curse, right? >> Yeah. >> And then when I went to go assist you off the property, what did you do? >> I threw my phone. >> You threw your phone. Where did that phone hit me at? >> Oh, you He hit me. >> You see my eye right now? See it? It's like watering up. >> I'm sorry. >> You You apologize for it. >> Yeah, I get that too when I get hit in the eye. Can I not tell you the story from the other day? >> I couldn't hear you. Matthew, >> can I tell you what happened now? >> Yeah, go ahead. >> I came here the other day to get a coffee and do the inner circle rewards. And she told me, "Well, this is the last time I'm going to do it for you, but you can't do it anymore." >> She told me that I had the pace for attention, please. >> I was on the app. >> I got rewards for talking and she's >> out of gas. You can do flatbed. >> Th this I'm doing it. >> Okay. Sean, your car. >> It is my car. It's in my name and my mother's name. Okay. All right. I pay for it. No, we're going to another female that wants to >> stuck with you guys. >> That's my mother >> and she lives over here. >> I've been trying to get her. >> She lives over here. >> Yeah, I've been trying to get her back. >> Well, it's not over here. So, >> she lives calling all those nasty things. >> Because my mom's a >> Because she won't help me and I help her. >> Why do you think your mom needs to help you out? >> Cuz I pay all her bills and if it wasn't for me, she won't be here. >> Okay. Well, listen. >> I paid the rent and everything. >> Janet, what was I telling you to do, right? I've been on this call for about 15 minutes. What was I telling you to do? I was telling you to leave, right? >> There's no way to leave when your car's out of gas. >> And I told you to leave, right? >> Can't do it. >> You I told you they're towing the car. >> You're not towing my car. Okay. >> When I actually leave, what did you do? >> Nothing. I started making phone calls, which I was already doing. >> Exactly. And then what did you just yell to this female inside the store? >> She's a fat sell cigarettes. But >> I I don't know what I said to her. I didn't steal. >> You told her you were killer. >> Huh? >> Tell her you wanted her dead or you wanted to kill her. >> No, >> you didn't say that or you didn't want it. >> Oh, well, it's on camera. So, >> nobody's whatever. I don't care. Say things out of anger. >> Go ahead. Okay. >> So, you just said that out of anger? >> Yeah, because her and I used to be cool. >> So, >> but did you hear her come up to us and what did she tell you? >> She's going to trespass me for nothing. >> And if you didn't leave, what would happen? >> That she's going to have my car towed >> and >> have me arrested. >> And then what? What's going on now? >> Nothing. >> And I gave you a lawful order to leave, right, Janet? >> I cannot leave when my car has no gas. >> I told you to step out of the car and leave. Your son did it, >> right? >> No gas in my car. So, >> I I know that she didn't want you to stay here because she said you've been stealing. >> I have never saw anything. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, we have another >> Trying to stand up straight. >> We got fire rescue still coming. And I think they just went to the other call. >> Okay. >> Well, as soon as you let me go, >> you're not Oh, you're going you're going all the way up to county. We're not letting you go. Okay. Well, we'll see. >> Yeah, I'm not letting you go cuz we just let you go. And look where we're at now. >> But I didn't do anything wrong. So, >> you you failed to leave the property when I told you to. >> The second charge, Florida statute section 8432, resisting an officer without violence, applies the moment a subject physically opposes a lawful laws, even without striking anyone. active physical resistance meets the statutory threshold under consistent Florida court interpretation. On use of force, the governing standard is Graham versus Connor, 1989. Reasonableness is judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer at that specific moment with the information they had, not in hindsight and not from a review board. The force applied, controlling the subject's arms and pressing her against the vehicle sits at level three on Florida's use of force continuum. Soft empty-hand control. That is the appropriate response to active resistance without weapons. The officers never escalated beyond it. when Matthew threw his phone and struck the officer in the eye that met the elements of misdemeanor assault under Florida statute section 784.011. The charge was not pursued, but the legal exposure was documented on camera on the verbal threat. Virginia versus black 20003 analysis. A statement made in a chaotic arrest with no over follow-through typically does not meet the criminal threshold and no charge consistent with that doctrine. The medical distress claim activates the 14th amendment duty of care from Estelle versus Gamble. 1976. Fire rescue was called. Evaluation was offered and when refused, the officer arranged hospital transport care provide alongside the arrest, not instead of it. >> Um, I'm just going to pass out. Pass out on the ground. Good. Then lean up against the car. >> So that way if you do, then you are leaning up against the car. >> You're hurting my stomach. Will you please help me? These mothers are hurting me. >> They're pushing me up against the car. This guy's blackshole. >> Okay. So, we got a call here cuz she says she's having heart problems. I know before >> I just want to make a difference. >> I won't do it here. You have to take me to the hospital. >> So, she's refusing on >> She's refusing. >> Well, she said she doesn't want to do it here. So, >> we'll take you to the hospital. >> No, I want to go with them. No fire truck. That's how it works. We don't see the fire truck. >> No, unfortunately. I'm going call a sergeant, make sure it's okay, and then I'm going to take you ourselves. Okay. We're not going to tie up our >> oper all the medical things are still going to happen. You're still going to get checked out, but you're still going to be under arrest and all the things. It doesn't get you out of that >> what whatever that part of it. I'm just I'm just telling you doesn't get you out of whatever the other situation is. Last time last time you were able to get a notice to appear. This time you can't. >> I am not. >> I cannot do anything wrong. >> What's up, dude? >> So, how's this going to work? You guys are going to take her disabled. >> He's going to confirm that. >> Do you Do you have any medical complaints right now? >> Yeah, I have chest pain. >> You have chest pain? >> They're pushing my heart into the car. >> Okay. Um, >> it shouldn't be noticed. Okay, I'm going to get a set of vital signs on you. All right. >> No, you can't get them right now. >> I refuse it. You have to take him to the hospital. Okay. Waste your time to come out. >> This is how this works. If you refuse medical here, then that means we take you. You understand that? >> Yeah. You're going to take to the hospital. >> Sure. And as soon as you get medical exposed, you're going to jail. You're going to take me to jail. >> See how that works. So, are you refusing medical? >> Okay. Take my vitals, but then let me go. >> You're not letting you go. You're not getting to stand up. Suppressing my heart. >> No, I'm not. I'm hunched over. You're pretty much breaking my arm. >> I want to know if my son's okay. I don't trust you. Don't call me. >> I'm 22. It doesn't matter. I don't trust you in my life. here. >> We're going to put me in their ambulance. >> No. Okay. >> No, we're we're taking you up. >> No, we're going to put >> Did you Cuz he seen that on >> with us. You want to sit with me in the hospital? >> Yeah, I'll I'll sit. Yeah. >> All right. You just sit with her. I'll do every all the paperwork and everything. >> I just need somebody to sit with her. >> I refuse you guys to take my arrest. >> I'm not under arrest. I didn't do anything. >> You are under arrest. No, we're taking a quick >> That's not how things go. You don't >> That's how I understand that. >> Can you move it back on? Perfect. >> Was it hot? >> Your blood pressure? >> Uh, it didn't take. >> Yeah, cuz it's so high. >> They better not be towing my car. >> No, we already got it to wait. 15 minutes for your car. >> I think they're right there. >> Looks better. >> No, you can't tow my car. Urban, >> we'll tell you where it's being towed to. >> I can't afford to get it out. All right. So, let's go get her in the back of my car. >> Stop treating me like I'm a right now. >> The car is okay. >> It's not okay. >> It's not that serious. Okay. >> It's very serious. >> I just want to fall to the floor. >> Okay. >> Okay. Can you put these in the front, please? >> No, we can't do that. Unfortunately, you're going to have a seat in that vehicle or any target. >> I can't even get in the car, man. >> Have seen >> the deduction from B suggesting the subject needed mental health help. It may have been accurate. But applying that label without clinical basis risks escalation and creates documentation that can become a liability in subsequent legal proceeding. Janet receives a C plus. Her frustration was understandable, but she had real options, declined them all, and sustained refusal under Florida statute section 810.09 produced a criminal conviction and 20 days in jail. Matthew receives a C. Phone throw is the most legally consequential act in this encounter. His cander afterward does not change the exposure it created. The Mont Police Department receives a B minus. Solid tactics and duty of care execution with one documented gap in field communication training. Every encounter like this one leaves behind lessons worth naming directly. Most of what went wrong here was preventable, not by the officer, but by the people who carried the most legal risk. Lesson one. A trespass warning issued by any authorized representative takes legal effect immediately under Florida Statute Section 810.09. Disputing who delivered it does not suspend its criminal consequences. Lesson two, your vehicle's condition is not a defense to trespass. The statute requires you to remove yourself from the property. How you accomplish that is your responsibility, not an exception written into the law. Lesson three, throwing any object at a law enforcement officer creates assault exposure under Florida Statute Section 784.011. Intent to miss is not a defense. The harmful contact is what the statute addresses. Lesson four. A medical emergency claim does not suspend a lawful arrest. The 14th amendment standard from Estelle versus Gamble requires officers to provide access to care, but that obligation runs alongside the aret, never instead of it. Lesson five, statements like you're dead, directed at an officer may survive truth threat analysis under Virginia versus Black 2003, but they worsen your situation. Build a record and give prosecutors leverage they would not otherwise hold. Words are protected, consequences are not. What this footage shows is the gap between what people believe their rights are and what the law actually requires. That gap in property and trespass authority and what resistance means is where most bad outcomes live. Not in malice, not in force, in a misunderstanding that was preventable. If this breakdown clarified how these laws work, subscribe to our channel and leave a comment with any interaction or legal topic you want analyzed next. Understanding the law clearly, precisely, is the most practical thing you can take from a case like