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You're arrested. Why? For what? >> I'll explain that to you in a second. Okay. >> What did I do? >> Did I turn my car off? >> Yep. I'll turn it off situated for you. >> Oh my god. >> You don't have anything in your pockets, Bailey? >> No. >> Okay. >> What did I >> do you happen to have a like a box lanyard for the apartment key in there? >> No, I don't. >> Okay. You don't know where that would be? >> I don't have one. I just >> What do you want grabbed out of your car to come? >> Nothing. >> You got your cell phone? >> I'll over to the car quick. I don't want you You want us to lock it? >> There's a different key. I don't know where it is. Um, >> can you just stand right in front of my car here? I want to get you face that way. >> Oh, >> I just want to check your pockets. You don't have anything. I don't >> There might be my keys around >> like car key. >> Yeah, I don't think so. What did I do? I don't know what I did. >> I'll explain that to you. >> I don't think Why Why do I have to get arrested if he doesn't? >> He put his hands on me first. Okay, let's have a seat back here. >> He put his hands on me first. >> He put his hands on me first. >> On August 18th, 2025, Wakaaw County deputies in Wisconsin responded to a domestic disturbance where both parties had separately called 911, each claiming the other was the aggressor. That dual call dynamic signals a mutual combat situation. Exactly the type of case where Wisconsin law demands precise legal analysis before anyone gets arrested. >> Hi. >> Hi, >> Deputy Lindsar. Are you on the phone with our dispatch center? You can hang up the phone. Okay. Do you have an ID on you? >> Um, >> what's going on today? >> Kicked me out. >> He just put his hands on me and then like I took my hands on him and then Yeah. >> Okay. Where did this all occur? >> His apartment. >> Where's his apartment? >> Just right over there. >> Okay. >> And he called the police on me too because >> What's the phone number for you? Are you injured at all? >> Um, no, I don't think so. >> So, your new address is in your address. >> No. >> What's your address over there? >> Or no, like my address or >> Yeah, your >> So, you don't live over there? He lives over there? >> Uh, well, I did live over there. >> Okay. All right, just I'll be right back with you. She said she lived over there. Then she gave me an address. >> What's that? >> Also, what was going on? >> Um, they got in a physical fight at the address over here. >> Okay. Hello, deputy down at the sheriff's department. What? Are you injured at all? >> No, I don't think so. >> Okay. Do you have a need for rescue to come check you out at all? >> No. >> Okay. What happened? >> Um, he kicked me out and then he put his hands on me and I put my hands on him. >> Okay. When you say that, right? I I can kind of depict what happened, but what specifically? What I guess what led to the argument? I slammed the the dresser drawer in and he picked me up and started like throwing me on my bed and started like pushing me down and stuff and like I started kicking him to get me off. >> Okay. What what caused the argument or what stem was? >> Cuz he kicked me out. >> Okay. So, he just woke up in the morning. He's like, "You got to get out." >> Yeah. He took me his face. >> Okay. He told you to get your stuff and get out. And then what happened? And then I just started packing my stuff and then started slamming doors and he got mad at me for that. >> Okay. So you were slamming stuff just like frustrated or >> Yeah. Like just like your doors like >> Okay. Well, grabbing your stuff. >> Not slamming but like >> closing them hard. >> Closing. Yeah. Like >> Okay. And he didn't like that. >> No. >> And what did he do? >> That's when he grabbed me and then started throwing me on the bed and then >> like from behind you. >> Yeah. Like it like he grabbed me like this and then like up and then like grabbed me and then threw me and then um I started kicking him and stuff >> to get him >> off. >> Okay. >> Cuz he was like he was on top of me and then like there was another time I slammed the door again and he like grabbed me like by my back of my arms and like picked me up and threw me again. >> Okay. Onto the floor. Onto the bed. >> On the bed again. >> Okay. Um, are your arms anywhere else? Do you notice any injuries or anything to them? >> No, I think >> I'm not seeing any redness or anything. I'm not saying that didn't happen, but >> Yeah. >> Um, the mark on your neck, what do you know what that's from? >> Oh, no. I have no idea. >> I don't know what that is. >> Did he grab your neck or anything at any time? >> Yeah, he like choke hold me like >> Were you able to breathe? Yeah. >> Okay. >> Did it cause you pain at all or was it just more like trying to pull you away from >> I was like Well, I was pulling away at the same time like >> Okay. So, >> like >> kind of like he's trying to control you, you trying to get away from him and >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. You sure you don't need rescue or anything? >> Okay. >> Okay. Did you do anything other than kick him to get you to get away or get off of him? >> Um, yeah. After I slapped him. >> Okay. When did you slap him? At what point? >> I don't remember. I know it was after like after he got off after he got off me. I slapped him. >> Cuz why are you touching me? Like >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> I don't know. >> Okay. So, that was after you were closing doors. >> Yeah. >> I'm just going to reiterate what you told me. But >> you woke up in the morning. He said, "I need space." Told you to start packing your stuff. You guys had an argument about the moving out part. >> Yeah. You proceeded to get all of your stuff. It looks like it's in your car for the most part. >> But while packing, you were just closing things. He didn't like that. In order to stop you from pushing or closing things shut, he grabbed you from behind, threw you on the bed. >> Somehow now you rolled over on your back and started kicking him off to get you off. >> Yeah. I like >> Did he get off of you then? >> He a little bit or like for not for a little bit he didn't, but then after I kicked him in the neck, he did. >> Okay. So you kicked him in the neck, but to get him off. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then you stood up, slapped him. >> Yeah. >> And then proceeded to continue to pack things. >> And then I started slamming doors again. And that's when he got mad again and started >> grabbing >> grabbed me again and through me again. >> Okay. Nothing else after that. You were able to get your stuff, get it out to the car. >> I kept asking him what I did wrong. >> Okay. How long have you guys lived together? >> Like a month. >> Okay. >> Or two. >> You guys have any kids together? >> No. >> Okay. Have you lived together with him before this? No. >> Okay. Where are you currently? Where would you be going? What's >> my mom's house? >> Where's mom? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> What's a phone number for you? >> For me? We'll give it this time. >> Uh, Bailey, is that correct? >> Or just Bailey. >> You go by just Bailey. >> Was there anybody else there? >> No. >> Just the two of you. Or was it like somebody's mom or >> my best friend was on the phone with me? Well, his sister, which is my best friend, was on the phone with him and he she was telling her to call the cops because I kicked him and was hitting him or something like that, but I was just trying to get him tell him to get trying to get him off me and uh uh she heard some of it and I don't know what she heard, but she probably heard us arguing. >> Okay. That mark on your neck kind of looks like a older bruise just based off of the color. It's almost got like yellow in it already. You don't remember anything that that would be from? >> No. >> So, it doesn't look like there's any other marks on your neck, but um when he grabbed you by your arms, did he use like his fingers or was it like a bear hug? >> By the arms, he grabbed his fingers. >> Okay. >> The second time, >> was it would you say it caused you pain or >> Yeah, it hurt cuz I have a I have the implant right here and like it was like pushing on it. >> Okay. >> That hurt. >> Um during the argument, was there anything said? I mean, or was it just him telling you to get out? >> Yeah, there was lots of stuff. >> Okay. Such as >> um Well, I was saying a lot of things to him. He was saying I don't know if I want to share. >> Okay. Well, I mean, who knows what he's saying. That's why I just want to get the full picture so when I talk to the other officer, if the other officer comes over here and talks to you, um, can at least relay it cuz a lot of times he said, she said, right? >> Mhm. >> So, but fair to say just insults back and forth at each other. Is that what it comes down to? >> Like profane insults like cussing and swearing at each other, >> loud voices >> a little bit like more like loud voices. Um, not really swearing, more like insults like, "Oh, you as if he's got us." >> All right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> He got mad at that. >> Like mad to the point of what? >> Like he just started yelling. >> Okay. All right. Give me a couple minutes, Bailey. >> Under Wisconsin statute section 9 68.075, 075. Officers must identify the dominant aggressor and make a mandatory arrest when domestic abuse grounds exist. Dual arrest is explicitly disfavored by that statute. The law requires evaluation of four specific factors. Who initiated physical force, the severity of injuries on each side, which party displayed more fear, and whether a prior domestic violence history exists between them. Those four factors were never verbalized on camera. The dominant aggressor analysis may have happened internally, but silence on that point is a defense attorney's opening at trial, and it should not be left unspoken. The charging decision came down to one on camera admission. The female subject stated she slapped the male subject after he had already gotten off of her. That timing is decisive under Wisconsin statute section 939.48. Self-defense in Wisconsin requires a reasonable belief that force is necessary to prevent imminent harm. A slap delivered after the physical threat has ended is retaliatory and section 939.48 does not protect it. Officers charge the female subject under Wisconsin statute, section 947.01, disorderly conduct, and section 943.01 criminal damage to property based on the physical evidence at the scene. The male subject was not charged despite his admitted physical lifting and throwing of the female subject conduct that does not become legally neutral because his stated intent was to move her away from property she was breaking. A second complication surfaced when officers found the female subject was already on a deferred prosecution agreement for prior disorderly conduct and resisting and carried a separate pending underage alcohol offense. Under Wisconsin statute section 946.49, 49. A person on release conditions who is arrested on a new criminal charge commits bail jumping, a class H felony. One domestic call had just become significantly more serious. Officers handled it correctly. They called the district attorney's office directly, confirmed she was on active bond and factored that into the arrest decision on the spot. That is the procedural diligence this situation required. >> I will see if the other officer is going to come over. It sounds like they're out with him over at the apartment. Are you guys both on the lease or just >> No, just him. >> Just him? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Do you pay rent to him? >> Uh, no. >> Okay. >> So, do you you live there full time? I mean, you got all this stuff in there, right? >> Yeah, I live there full time. >> I just wasn't I got something on my shirt. >> You're 18, Bill. >> Yeah. >> How old is See what happens to him real quick. What's that? >> I can see what happened real quick. >> Okay, >> we'll get to that. We'll kind of touch on things right now. >> Basically, I like end of June. >> And I gave her a house key. I said, "You slowly like come in, make your peace." Like if you're if I'm working, you want to come over, you're allowed to. >> Mhm. >> And the last week, we've been fighting. Um, she we haven't been sleeping together. She broke my toilet by flushing something down on down the toilet and then posting about as a joke. So, right there was kind of my last shot on that maybe 20 minutes ago. >> Okay. >> So, I came inside said, "You need to leave. You're not in the least. Like, you can pick up yourself and go. I need my space." I said, "We want to do this. We can, but I need space. Like, I need to have my life back. This is not This is getting toxic." And then she started crying, throwing [ __ ] freaking out, slamming [ __ ] that's broken. And she started slamming [ __ ] So I did I never like can I grab you sir? >> No you can't. >> Okay I guess you were asking or checking. >> So I kind of like picked her up. I never like punched her. Never slapped her and everything. I just picked her up. Try to move her away from the [ __ ] she was trying to break. >> Okay. >> Um there is quite a mess up there. But then I took her [ __ ] and took it all down here outside. Then I mean you can ask the person I called and my landlords. They all heard it. She was out here making a ruckus honking and throwing [ __ ] saying I beat her and I know she call I was gonna call her mom and said like you need to get your daughter to leave because like I'm trying I'm trying to get her out of my house like I didn't lay hands on her or anything and then her mom said she didn't call the cops so I called the cops too. So I I didn't want to call the cops at all. I just wanted to get her [ __ ] and get her to leave. >> Right. >> But after this I'm going to want to file a restrain order. I don't know if you guys can help me with that. >> That's goes through the court system. So we can touch on that at the end uh when we're all wrapped up. Okay. That's nothing that we can take care of right now. >> So, how long has she been living here? >> She hasn't like lived here, but she's been staying here probably the last maybe three, four weeks. >> Okay. Where is her pime where is she primarily living? >> That's her mom. And that's it. >> Okay. >> You said no one else is here. No, I don't. >> No, no, she threw a bottle of water. >> Um, all this right here. You're good, dude. >> And then how did you get You said do you mind if some marks on your back? >> I I I I mean I'm just I I feel burning so I don't know like >> Yeah. I didn't see anything on your back. Yeah. >> Outside. But >> so all these clothes are up here, you're saying? >> Yeah. >> And you said you picked up the bowl and stuff? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I Well, before she just left and I was on the phone with the police and I was trying to pick up a little bit, but then the guy said just leave everything back here. >> And then this was her as well. So she was yelling. I'm like, "You need to get your stuff out and leave." Blah, blah, blah. She started [ __ ] just wham wham wham. And then she was right here. So I went like I grabbed my arms around her, picked her up and went like this and started kicking and then slapped me and whatever else. I never like did any of that. All I did the most was like I don't know if you guys you guys plan on fight with women. I hope not. Like if someone's laying a hand is a grill, the first thing you're going to want to do is like try to wrap her up. You're not going to want to put your hands on her. Not going to want to abuse her. I'm not like that. All I wanted to do was her to stop going crazy, throwing stuff, hidden stuff. It's all I did. >> All right. Well, we're other officers are talking to her and kind of getting her side of the story. >> Yeah. Pretty sure it's going to be some [ __ ] So Okay. What's your phone number? Good. >> Good. Um I guess he doesn't want to charge. >> We still do the criminal damage. So >> yeah, we've got to do what we've got based on the evidence. Um we can say what he wants in the statement. The DA will take that in consideration, but our hands are tied at this point. I just didn't know if we' just do the DC or we still do both. >> Go both ways. I think we do both. >> Yeah. >> Throw both and they do what they want with it. >> Yeah. This girl is 18 years old. She's on a defer prosecution agreement for a criminal offense. And then she has pending [ __ ] from killing. Well, actually just underage drinking. Interesting. DC resisting is what she was a deeper st. I'll give you this back. >> What's that? >> Not worried about that. You make some calls. >> I know. Um, I can call over to the DA's office and see what that really means. I don't think it does. I think it's at I think it's only if she's arrested for another crime. Like say she was arrested they can revoke that agreement. But I don't think it I don't think she's necessarily on bail right now. >> I don't think it's >> cuz I was thinking Hey, it's in front of the company. How are you? Hi. Hey, so there's a female that we're out with with a she's on a deferred prosecution agreement. Um, and does that mean she's on bail or does that mean that the bail's done and she's just if she gets arrested or screws up in the DJ they resented her? Can you look her up? Okay, so she's still on bond then. Okay. So, a situation where she wouldn't be on bond, like just for future reference for me, um that would be like found guilty and then DJ would be the sentence or how does that work? Okay. All right. Sounds good. That's all I need to know. >> Bye. Yeah. You're welcome. Bye. Yeah. So that's uh she's it's still an open case. So it would be still considered bail jumping. >> Oh, it is bail jumping. I think you can bail attached to it. I thought it would just be gays. >> Yeah. So if they dismiss it and then they enter into a DJ, >> then it would be considered no longer on bail. But they never dismissed it. They left it open. >> Oh, they left it open. >> Yeah. >> So if they have they have charges here, there's somebody charge. Yeah, she would be bailing to have charges. >> Hey, Bailey. >> I just want to clarify with you. He's saying to the other officer that you don't live there. You keep stuff there and that you actually live with your mom. Is that true? >> No, he lived here. >> This is all my stuff I have. >> Okay. >> And he literally like he didn't ask me to move in, but he was like, "You should like slowly move in." And so I was like, "Okay." So I slowly moved in, brought all my stuff, and then now all of a sudden, a month or two later, he's like, "I need space." >> Okay. So how many how many days out of the week would you say you stay there? >> All the all the time. I don't go home. Like I never go home. That's why I live like I live there. Like >> Okay. >> She cooks for me. >> How long would you say that's been the case? >> Two months. A month. Month or two? >> A month or two. At the same place here. >> At the same place. Yes. Okay. >> Since early July. >> Okay. Why? Why would he be saying you don't live there? >> I don't I don't know. He He told me to me he was like, "You don't live here. You're not on the lease." I think that's probably what he means. >> Okay. So, he's just under the assumption that you being on the lease means you live there when >> Yeah. >> Okay. What What are What were What are you looking to have done today? >> Nothing. I just My mom just wanted to make sure I was okay. >> What's that? >> My mom just wanted to make sure I was okay, so she called the cop. >> Okay. All right. All right, Bailey, give me a couple minutes. Okay. >> All right, Bailey, can you step out of the car? >> I'll explain it to you. >> Can you face your car for me? >> You're arrested? >> Why? For what? >> I'll explain that to you in a second. Okay. >> What did I do? >> Can I turn my car off? Yep. >> We'll get it all situated for you. >> Oh my god. >> You don't have anything in your pockets, Bailey? >> No. >> Do you happen to have a like a box lanyard for the apartment key in there? >> No, I don't. >> Okay. You don't know where that would be? >> I don't have it. I just >> What do you want grabbed out of your car? >> You got your cell phone? >> I'll go over to the car quick. I don't want you. >> You want us to lock it? >> There's a different key. Hey, I don't know where it is. Um, >> can you just stand right in front of my car here? I want to get you face that way. >> Oh, >> I just want to check your pockets. You don't have anything at all. >> There might be my key though. >> Like car parking. >> Yeah, I don't think so. What did I do? Can you tell me what I did? >> I'll explain that to you. >> I don't think Why do I have to get arrested if he doesn't? >> He put his hands on me first. >> Okay, let's have a seat back here. >> He put his hands on me first. He put his hands on me first. >> You could throw that right on my bag. You call 1080 on there or no? >> 1080. >> Yep. Give me one second. I I promise you I'll explain. Okay. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Um >> is this car keys? >> Yeah, I got a PC. Do you want me to search car? Are you good? >> Now for the grades. Deputy Lens earns a B+. He reflected the subject's account back on camera to lock in the timeline, documented the neck injury, and correctly identified the yellowing bruise as pre-existing, not from this incident. The arresting officer earns a B. The arrest involved no unnecessary force, and the proactive DA call on bail status was the right decision. Deductions come from a delayed charge explanation and no visible Miranda adisement post arrest. The female subject earns a C+. She cooperated and did not resist. But the post threat slap admission on camera combined with her active DPA status left her very little legal room to work with. The male subject earns a B minus. He called police, cooperated with deputies, and did not strike the subject, but physically lifting and throwing another person carries battery exposure regardless of intent conduct that was not charged here. The department earns a B. Party separation, simultaneous interviews, injury documentation, and DA consultation were all correct. The deduction is for the unspoken dominant aggressor analysis. A procedural gap that creates vulnerability in any post arrest proceeding. Before we close, this call surfaces five practical lessons. Each one is grounded in the statutes that governed every decision on that scene, and each one applies directly the next time a situation like this one comes through dispatch. Lesson one. Once force becomes retaliatory, it loses legal protection. Wisconsin statute section 939.48 covers force used to prevent imminent harm, not force used after the threat has ended. Crossing that line on camera turns a victim into a defendant. Lesson two, Wisconsin statute section 968.075 requires the dominant aggressor analysis to be documented out loud, not just decided internally. Factors left unspoken leave the charging decision exposed to challenge at every stage. Lesson three, a deferred prosecution agreement is an active legal condition, not a closed case. Any new arrest can revoke it and trigger bail jumping. Under Wisconsin statute section 946.49, a class H felony on top of the new charge. Lesson four, dual independent 911 calls give officers a cleaner evidentiary baseline. Each call establishes that party believed they were the victim and that belief is directly relevant to both probable cause and the dominant aggressor determination. Lesson five, a lease is not the only proof of teny. Continuous residence with the owner's knowledge and invitation can create occupancy rights under Wisconsin law rights that require a civil eviction, not a police removal. Domestic disturbances carry more legal layers than they appear to. Mandatory arrest thresholds, self-defense limits, deferred prosecution conditions, and tenency rights all converge the moment deputies step out of their cruisers. If this kind of analysis is useful, subscribe to our channel. We break down real body cam footage against the actual statutes. No speculation, just the law and what it requires. We will see you in the next
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