What's wrong? >> No, nothing. >> I'm a state trooper student. >> I'm actually his shift. I didn't do anything to embarrass the state police. Now they're making me embarrass state police. >> Oh, >> Ray-B bands. >> Body cameras are supposed to protect both law enforcement and citizens. But what happens when officers are recorded breaking the law without them even realizing? >> You can turn the camera off cuz video >> Why you being a person? >> I don't care what you got. Sit up. These were the moments when corrupt cops didn't realize they were being recorded. We begin with the case of a deputy who believed his badge would protect him no matter what. But it wouldn't take long for his own colleagues to realize that what the deputy was accused of was far more disturbing than imagined. >> Cooperation goes a long way. Absolutely. >> So it's the truth. I'm a true seeker. We'll talk about >> I was in class all day. I don't even understand what's going on. >> I know you. On July 20th, 2023, officers from Charlotte County responded after a report of a domestic dispute involving a local detention staff member identified as 22-year-old Dylan Landmark. To get to the bottom of it, the first step was sitting down with the woman at the center of it all. >> Statement. I'm going to place you under oath. I don't think we need to do that at this point. Let's We're going to deviate just a little bit because we just before I want to put you under [snorts] oath right at this point because of what's going on. But what we're here for is an allegation that you're being physically abused by a partner of yours that you're currently residing with and that member is a member of the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office. That's why we're here. Okay. So, it's my understanding that um an injury brought some suspicion by other members that were concerned for your safety and that's why um it's now in our hands and we're here talking to you about it. >> As detectives began questioning the victim, Rebecca, it became clear that getting her to open up about what really happened wouldn't be simple at all. >> So, we're just doing some factf finding at the moment. I heard you went to the hospital Monday. Was it Monday? >> Yes. >> Okay. Is there anything that you want to talk about on that injury? >> No. >> Okay. So, you got nothing to say about it whatsoever. Is there anything that you feel the sheriff's office should be involved in? >> No. >> Is there anything we can do to help you out with [music] anything? I mean, at this point, if if without you divulging any information and talking about what we're kind of hearing on the sidelines, is there any hope that the sheriff's office can help you to get out of that situation? >> No. >> Okay. Would there be anyone that you would feel more comfortable to talk to about it? Or you're telling me that nothing physical is going on? There's nothing criminal going on by the other person. >> I just don't feel comfortable talking about it. >> Okay. You know, our biggest concern is making sure that you're okay. >> So, and I know you have children involved and that's a huge concern in this whole thing. Are they are they home tonight? >> No. >> No, they're not. Are they with the father? Is that what they Okay. All right. So, there's no issues there. Correct. [music] Okay. The situation at home right now, are you safe if you go home? >> Yes. You don't have any fear of there being any violence or anything like that? Cuz you know, we could get you help tonight. You know what I'm saying? >> No. >> Okay. Can I ask who your is currently right now that you're residing with? >> Do I have to answer that or >> I'm not putting you under oath right now. So, I mean I I've heard that he's an employee. I've heard he's an employee in corrections, >> right? and Dylan. Is that is that who um >> still >> and there's nothing you want to discuss with us in this atmosphere right now? >> Okay. >> At this point, Rebecca made it clear she wasn't ready to say more. So, investigators turned to someone else who had been watching the situation unfold from the sidelines. >> So, what in your own words recently happened that was brought to your attention about uh those two? >> Over the last few weeks, I've just noticed marks on her. What specifically were those marks that you noticed initially? >> Uh black eye. I think it was her right eye. >> Okay. Something about what was another injury her >> Well, she mentioned about a busted eardrum. >> Okay. >> And then off duty, we had went out and she had some bruises on her arms, >> right? And what when you saw those off duty did those bruising look like? >> Like fingerprints. >> Like finger. She had been grabbed on the shoulder or something like that. >> Yes. >> And at the time that those happened, which had been several weeks, correct? the those a week ago, two weeks ago >> probably within the last four weeks. >> Okay. So, within the last several weeks, you noticed those injuries. Did you have any concern or did she she being Rebecca, did she bring any did she discuss how those happened initially? >> No, can't really recall how I said it. I think I had said to her maybe about did he give you a black eye, [music] >> right? >> And she had said sugarhead yes. And then I said, "And what about the busted eardrum that you said that you had a few weeks ago? Did he do that to you?" And she said, "Yes." >> And then did she say anything else to you during the course of that conversation with her >> about what >> anything? I mean, did she did she at any point um I mean she admitted to the three incidents. Did you ask about the marks on her arm or no? Once she just talked about the eye, the ear that was enough for you? Okay. And then I had just questioned her on if she had somewhere to go, if she was going to be leaving him, and she said she couldn't leave until their lease was up in December. >> And then did she But she never said anything that you recall about her still being in fear of what he's going to do. To you, her concern is she just doesn't want him to get in trouble and and lose his career over these actions. Is that how you're feeling? Not that she is in immediate need of assistance from the sheriff's office. I can't recall with everything said if she mentioned being in fear of going home at all. >> Right. >> But she hasn't said that to you since. >> No, I don't think she's made that comment. Just more of not knowing how he's going to react once this comes out. Got >> with the supervisor's account raising even more concern. Investigators knew there was only one person left who could answer for it all. So the next day, law enforcement went straight to get Dylan. >> Want to talk to you, buddy? How you doing back? >> I'm Sergeant Old Charlotte County Sheriff's Office. Major Collins, Detective Joseph Dylan. >> Yes, sir. >> I Yeah, I was on the phone with my friend. >> Okay. Are you done with the phone call? >> I just hung up as soon as I walked up. >> So, there's some allegations with domestic violence here. >> So, we'd like to talk to you and get your shot of story. >> Okay. >> Be willing to talk to us? >> Sure. Absolutely. What's going on? >> Okay. >> Well, that's what we're going to go talk about. We got to go to the office. I know that. >> I've been here waiting for you. Okay. >> So, is she okay? >> She's okay. >> But the allegations are serious and we have to talk to you about them. >> Okay. >> Okay. Because you got a firearm. I'm going to take it. >> We're going to go over here. Make sure you have no other weapons. >> Yeah. >> Is anyone else in your car? >> No one's in my car. >> I just picked up my car. Keys are right here. My wallet's in my car. I got no weapons in my car. I can shut it off. >> Uh, yeah. We'll shut it off. >> You want to secure your car? Yeah, >> we're just I got to make sure you have nothing on cuz you're with you know how this goes. >> I understand. >> We like to get both sides of the story and we never want to go by one side of the story, >> but we have to treat it as a criminal investigation. You understand? >> I understand. >> I know you probably do understand everything, but I have to make sure I tell you that. You know what I mean? >> You have no knives? >> No, sir. >> Okay. >> I just had the firearm. >> Hey, I appreciate your cooperation. Yeah. >> And let me check >> because you we're going to take you in an unmar car. Okay. To keep it discreet. >> Okay. >> And we're going to go back to the office, right? >> Okay. >> Cooperation goes a long way with me. >> Absolutely. >> So is the truth. I'm a true seeker. >> Yeah. >> So I believe you just as much. >> Detective Resty is going to double check you because you're a law enforcement officer. You know, you go back to the car. >> If you're good with that. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Okay. >> We'll talk about if we do it out here. It's not professional, man. >> I I mean, I understand that. >> Yeah. >> I was in class all day. I don't even understand what's going on. >> I know where you've been. I know. That's why we're going to give you the opportunity, brother. You know what I mean? >> We're not here to hurt you. >> Can I put these [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Where we at? >> My car's right here. >> Toyota order. >> Yeah. >> You want to back? >> Yep. >> In the end, Dylan Landmark was arrested and charged with felony domestic battery. The initial report led to a criminal case and an internal administrative review within the sheriff's office. Since then, Dylan has been placed on administrative leave without pay while the agency is conducting its own examination into the incident. The case is pending. Next up, a veteran state trooper found himself on the other side of the badge for being suspected of driving under the influence. However, what would soon raise more questions was the officers who put him in handcuffs. >> I have not committed a crime. Have I committed a crime? >> I'm not doing this with you. Stop. >> They said, you know what? I'm going to put an Indiana State Trooper one of their own. >> On July 27th, 2023, officers from the Indiana State Patrol caught a 12-year veteran trooper identified as Zachary Smith operating a vehicle while intoxicated. Instead of the encounter ending there, the problem was about to follow him home. You tell me. I just about to call them. I don't know what they're telling me today. >> Go get the dog. >> Come here. Hey. >> Come here, Z. Just not >> Come here. Come with me. It's not worth it. >> No. No. >> First day on the road. 10 contact. Listen to the people. Jill, leave me alone. Jill does her. Leave me alone. >> Listen to me. Hey, it's not worth it. Trust me. >> This is So now you're going to COME TAKE MY DOG. DO YOU THINK I want to? >> No. No. Come on. >> Hey, he's just here because I told him. >> Come on in. You guys need a search warrant? No. Come on in. >> Despite the initial tension, officers made their way into Zachary's house without a search warrant. But when they came back outside the residence, things started to escalate. >> We're trying to get the dog. >> I'm not going to have an argument with you, Zach. You're You're intoxicated right now. I know. I can see them. And he just drove somewhere. Hopefully not with your kids while you're drunk. >> Doesn't matter. >> This explains why I'm getting the dog right here. >> Come on, Zach. Let's get the dog so we can go. >> Come on, man. >> Let's get the dog. >> What am I being arrested for? What am I being arrested for? Who saw me driving and what I'm being arrested for? Did you see me driving? >> Yes, I did. >> No, I'm talking to this trooper right here. Who's arresting? >> I didn't see you driving. No. >> Good. Thank you. >> I have probable cause. Believe you've operated a vehicle. while intoxicated must now offer to you the opportunity to submit to a chemical test and inform you that your refusal to submit to a chemical test will result in a suspension of your driving privileges for one year. If you have at least one previous conviction for operating while intoxicated, your refusal to submit to a chemical test will result in suspension of your driving privileges for 2 years. You understand what I read to you? Yes, sir. >> All right. Will you now go down and take the test? >> No, sir. >> Okay. There was no traffic stop and no problem call traffic stop. So, I have no clue how you get through a DUI stop when you don't have a traffic stop. I have not committed a crime. Have I committed a crime? >> Yes. >> How? >> Did you watch me? >> I watched you drive. >> Okay. Did you Did you watch me do a uh vehicle violation? Did you do a probable cause stop, traffic stop, and have probable cause that I was intoxicated? >> I'm not doing this with you. Stop. You're rolling in my house >> cuz I'm predisposed. >> No problems. They have no traffic stops. They have no field sobriety. No field no PBTs. They say, "You know what? I'm going to put an Indiana State Trooper, one of their own, in This is going to be fun. >> Nobody Nobody conducted a traffic stop. >> I don't know, man. >> I mean, no. I'm just asking. Do you understand? This is not crime. >> Zachary made it clear he wasn't backing down, insisting he'd committed no crime. But the disagreement would be taken somewhere else. restaurant. >> Didn't do anything wrong. >> What's wrong? >> No, nothing. I'm a state trip. >> I'm actually his shift. >> I asked cuz I would recognize you. >> I know you did. >> You have the >> I'm not. That's not going to happen. Especially that warrant is signed by somebody who never saw me do anything and there's a lot of problems with that. So it's not going to have no traffic. Nothing. You can't do it by force. New rules. >> Well, I don't think you have a choice at this point, D. >> No, you can't take it by force. It's a new rule. So, >> sit down. Sit down. Sit down. Sit down. Sit down. >> I'm not going to have it. >> You're lying. >> Who are these guys then, Zack? >> You don't have a trap. You don't have >> Listen to We both know and all of us know you will all failing for it. Do not stop it. I have enough going on right now and this place is trying to bury me while I'm trying to crawl myself out at all for what? I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't do anything to embarrass the state police. Now they're making you embarrass state police. >> Hey, what we talked about earlier, man, you're making this worse on yourself. >> No, I'm not making anything worse. >> You are. >> I know my rights. We have an order in front >> and we're going to take >> You don't have a traffic stop. You cannot draw my by force today in court. [clears throat] >> Good. I refuse. Just like Mark Tal's boy did. He refused. Mark Tal's boy refused. You know where he's at now? He's back on government security. You can leave. I'm refusing. >> I'm not leaving. And you're going to get your blood. >> No, I'm not. No, I'm not. And if you take it by force, there's going to be a problem. >> We'll hold you down if we have to. >> And there won't be a problem. >> That's fine. We're going to hold you down. >> You need my to bury me. So, leave me alone. I didn't do anything wrong to you. I'm not on duty. I work hard for the state police. Leave me alone yourself right now. >> No, I'm not. >> Yes, you are. >> No, I'm not. Because I'm going to stand up for my rights. >> Zach, let him do it. Let him do it. We don't have to hold. If we have to, we'll hold you down. >> We prefer not doing it. >> At the hospital, Zachary held firm that officers had no right to force the test and the situation was about to reach a breaking point. >> This is not a traffic stop. >> Zack, let them make their attempt. All right, they'll attempt it. If you don't, we'll we'll do the round. >> Do not do anything to these girls, Zach. >> Captain. >> Hey, buddy. You're not the Zach that I know right now. Well, I'm pissed. You can be pissed, but I know what you're going to do >> right now. I know exactly. >> We're going to take your what we're going to do. I know exactly what you're going to do. >> I'm not taking it. >> They have a warrant. >> Well, I think we should get Judge Brown on the phone so I can talk to him. This is Someone signed a warrant. >> You quit looking at me, son. You need to cooperate with peace and counsel. >> Why? I'm in charge. Like you want this test. >> Zach, are you going to let me draw this? >> Yeah. Take it back for us. >> Okay. >> Let her do her job, Zach. She has nothing in this. Just let her do her job. This is not all right. You can fight about that later. Right now, let her do her job. >> Are you going to let me? >> You want to sit back and do the right thing, man. >> Do the right thing. >> No PC for the stuff. >> That has nothing to do with her. Let her do her job. >> No, I know how to do my job and do it for Let her do her job. >> How the did you get a woman? How did you prove impairment? >> How did you prove anything? >> Facts. How did you prove? How did you prove anything? You treat like a idiot. How did you get the wheel? How did you get the >> How did you get the >> Get your leg down, Zach. >> I don't want to do this either. >> Well, >> I want to Okay. >> Okay. Stop. Guys, >> stop resisting. >> I'm not resisting. >> You are. >> Okay, >> Megan. You can take my >> Okay. This is your one shot. Zach, your one shot. Let her do it. Just lay back and let her do it. >> Let her do it. Stay there. Stay right there. Either run right here. >> Lay back and let her do it now. >> Put any of my hands on you guys. Stop. >> No one said you did. Just let her do her job. >> I've just got the tourniquet on in. That's all. >> Christ. Stay back. >> Calm down. >> Calm down. Okay. >> Step away from me. >> I'm not doing anything. >> I'm going to stand right here, Zach. >> Because I don't want >> We got our legal warrants to fight for my job. In the end, Zachary Smith was charged with OWI, operating while intoxicated. Zachary was arrested and booked into the Floyd County Jail. He was released shortly after upon posting a $200 bond. [music] The Indiana State Police immediately placed him on administrative leave. As of August 2026, there is no official confirmation that Zachary has been fired. [music] The reason is that ISP policy generally delays final discipline until the criminal case is resolved, and this case is still ongoing. In the next case, three officers believe their positions would shield them from ever facing consequences for their actions. But during a routine eviction, their body cams would catch them in the action. >> Oh, Ray-B bands. >> On October 18th, 2021, three officers from Smith County were conducting an eviction service on a residence in Tyler, Texas. And it wasn't long before one of them was seen doing something suspicious. What's happening there? Hey, open your um open I need to go in the car for me. >> I need to go in your car for a minute. Come on. Put some >> Put some in there. >> You just put some in there. >> What is that? >> I put some Okay. >> I'm good. >> Put it in my pocket. >> I can leave it. >> Just sit on the driver seat. >> Sit in the dr. Okay. During the search in the house, the three officers identified as Constable Curtis Trailer Harris, 34, Chief Deputy Constable Laquenda Banks, 42, and Sergeant Derek Hullman, 44, reportedly discovered suspected illegal. The trio contacted Tyler police to take over the investigation, but they kept going around the house in the meantime, and Laquenda's body cam was about to capture everything without her realizing it. >> Hold on. Hold on. Don't come down here. This one right here. >> Yeah. >> Let me see. Okay, this put in my shirt. Hold on. Hey, hold on. Give me a minute. >> Hold on. Oh, we got >> Oh. Damn. Everything in here to this can go in here. We set that box, right? Yeah. >> We set that on that dresser. >> What's this? >> Uh, a box. Hold on. Give me a second. You got this bong. Hold on. I didn't get to check them. >> Huh? >> You got to give me [ __ ] >> Oh, no. There's a whole bunch in the other bag, too. We can roll this out. >> It's cocaine. >> But it's a We're missing a small handgun. I can tell you that now. >> You probably got it. >> I found some bullets. It was the bullets on top of that. I didn't go through them. >> Yeah, he >> ready. >> Yeah, >> let me take this. >> Okay. >> Lquenda wasn't shy about grabbing items from the bathroom and closet. And as the search continued, the behavior of the Smith County trio would only raise more questions. >> These are pills. Hold on. >> I know what's in here. It'll be easy easy reach. The [ __ ] is this? What is this? >> Okay. >> A cell phone or something scale. Oh, >> calculator. >> Calculator. >> It's a cell phone charger. >> Hold on. Wait. Uh, what is this? Something >> gun. >> A spinner. Maybe a se. No, it's a clip >> to a gun. >> Yeah, it's a rug. >> Okay. This is some more bullets. Um, yeah. Serious some more money. >> Hold on a minute. >> Hold on. Fine. They I put all that in Derek's uh car. Okay. >> They want they can come in and start moving. >> You want me down? >> Can y'all stay? >> I was like we stay too early. >> I told her I said we we'll stay too after this week. I said the two hours I guess will start whenever they come in to move. >> That's her purse. Look in it. Probably got some do. >> Cuz we told the little girl purse. >> The search around the house continued with the trio acting as if they were trying to find something suspicious when in reality they weren't done yet with their own special operation. Oh yeah. Who was it? You said about last night. >> I sure would hate to sanitize it. some Oakley glasses like they got everything in a zip. This seem like the daughters went on. What you see? Yeah, I think they went Oakley though. They was and everything. Are they allowed to keep anything of value? >> Who? >> The them. >> Long as it's who? The console. >> No, the console. Um they can't nobody touch nothing while they putting it on the street. >> Okay. >> Is what I believe. So they can start doing that and we can start Ooh. Okay. This ain't even been used. >> Yeah. What's all this? >> Yeah. Yeah. See what's in here. Oh, Ray-B bands. Okay. Oh, what's in here? Put this right there. Hold on. Hold on. Clean house. Yeah. Let me check the bottom. All right, guys. I think somebody went through this one. A bunch of phones. A bunch of these, too. Look in there. There you go, though. Yeah, they can start coming in so I can start. >> All right. We done got hot. >> They come in. [laughter] >> Yeah, it's hot. >> You ain't want me to go rest? You going to sit down and rest a little bit? >> Oh, yeah. I need to go sit down and rest. >> Yeah, go sit down and rest. [laughter] >> We got a little little fat over there. trying to find a pocket. >> You see the gun he found? >> Huh? >> He found a pistol. >> Where is it at? >> Uh outside the >> kitchen. They got a bunch of vitamins and stuff. You know, nothing illegal. They got to start. >> Yeah, they got to start. All right, y'all. Come on. The is my How do I get in this damn pocket? really supposed to be out. >> Yeah. >> Um, but this the thing you need to get. It's >> just no. >> Yeah. He ran under that that first chair. >> But they coming in, so I guess get them get them out. They can wait in their car. >> As Laquenda, Curtis, and Derek went through the rooms together, it was clear the trio were sizing up more than just what belonged to the homeowner. At this point, it was clear how far they were willing to go to keep their theft going. >> What's all this? Yeah. >> Yeah. Let's see what's in here. Oh, Ray-B bands. Okay. What's in here? Hold on. Clean it out. Yeah. Check the bottom. All right, guys. I think somebody went through this one. A bunch of a bunch of these, too. Look in there. These are Yeah, thanks for all coming in. So I too can start. >> All right. >> We done got hot. >> They come [laughter] in. >> Yeah, it's hot. >> You want me to go rest? You need to go sit down and rest a little bit. >> Oh yeah, I need to go sit down and rest. >> Yeah, go sit down and rest. Got a little little fat over there. Trying to find a pocket. >> You see that gun he found? >> He found a pistol. >> Where is it at? >> Uh outside kitchen. They got a bunch of vitamins and stuff. You know, nothing illegal. They got start. >> Yeah, they got to start. >> All right, y'all. Come on. H the is my How do I get in this damn pocket? >> You're really supposed to be out. >> Yeah. >> Um >> this thing you need. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He ran under that that first chair. >> But they coming in. So I guess get them get them out. They can wait in their car. >> In the end, a few months later in November 2021, the tenant filed a theft report from the eviction. four watches, a partial box of 22 caliber ammunition, Apple AirPods, iPhones, MacBooks, shoes, perfume, jewelry, Oakley and Ray-B band sunglasses, makeup, a safe containing antique coins, military medals, a diploma, a birth certificate, a social security card, and $750 in cash were reported missing. Lquenda's body cam became the main evidence in the case. The trio was arrested and each charged with theft by a public servant and official oppression. All three had their licenses suspended. A year later, in 2022, Curtis Trailer Harris was convicted of theft and sentenced to 5 years [music] probation. Later in August 2023, a jury found Derek Hullman not guilty. A month after that, Laquenda [music] Banks agreed to a sentence of 18 months probation after pleading guilty. Next up, a police chief believed that no one would ever question how he used his badge until a video caught him red-handed. >> So, you guys are going to infringe my right. I will do it if I'm a threat. Put it like that. If you said, you're not going to hear words come out of my mouth. Okay? I'm smarter than that. I don't care what you got. Sit down. Sit down. On July 1st, 2024, officers from the Robins Police Department met 43-year-old James Snow after he showed up at the station wanting to file a formal complaint against police chief Carl Scott. The complaint stemmed from a previous encounter between the two during which Chief Scott allegedly had taken unlawful action against James. This encounter earned James citations for disorderly conduct and breach of the peace, charges that were later dismissed in court. But on this day, before James could even get his complaint filed, officers had a request of their own. So, you have your ID? >> No. I don't just ride around. Why? Why would you buy me? I need your ID. >> Why? Because my need got Yeah, he wants no sir. We need to pay for what? Because because officer is a citation for a nuisance violation. >> A nuisance violation. Yes. Citation for that. So you guys are going to infringe on my right. You need you need to produce identification for your name and date of birth so our officer can have a get your information and you need to citation. >> So surrender my fourth amendment right today. Is that what you said, >> sir? Identification or name of day. James held his ground, refusing to hand over his identification and standing firm on his rights. But Chief Scott himself was about to step in. And he had other ways of making sure James complied. >> I'm not going to my rights. Okay, sir. But that's fine. I'm not going to show up. Not a problem. So, if you know the law, then if you if you refuse to give yourself your identification, then you have to be fingerprinted and get identification that way. That's >> your suspected of a crime. >> Right now, you're in violation of no local ordinance. So, you're going to receive a local ordinance, not citation or public. Okay. So you're sharing my information and I get arrested. >> Did I say that? I said the truth. You properly identify my will. >> Sir, there's your choice. We have to go back. I'm not going to I'm not going to just be on your That's cool. It's been on me before. >> Okay. So then get ready then, man. Your bottom line. You ready to go out the window? Contact Rob's insurance. >> Are you going to give him your your ID? >> I'm not surrendering my give him your ID. I'm not going to surrender my right because you are aware that no video or photos is allowed. >> That's not a law. >> That's fine. It's your opinion. >> That's not a law. I just asking your identification so that you can receive a citation if you on your way and you refuse to do so. >> I'm going say this. I will do it if I'm going to threaten with arrest. Put it like that. If you if you say it's a citation, you're not going to hear the words arrest come out of my mouth. >> I'm smarter than that. >> Okay? >> It's a citation. You're going to give him your identification for so you can receive your citation like any other thing and move on your way. >> I'm not going to surrender my rights. >> Did I ask you the rights? I asked my right to be in my personal video photo or video when it's clearly posted. >> That's not a law. >> That's not what you are. You give me an application. I'm not my right. >> So you want to be fingerprinted and go through that process? >> You want to unlock? >> Okay. Whatever. We can go this way. >> Yep. You can turn your camera off exactly what video. Okay. >> After a long back and forth, James finally agreed to go through with the fingerprint process. But the moment his phone camera went off, the whole interaction changed. >> Yeah, I did. I did. >> Yeah, I did. Why you being a sir? Come on. I need to get this. I don't care what you got. Sit down. Sit down. >> What else you got? >> Unfortunately, this footage from inside the interview room had no audio attached. So exactly what was said between James, Scott, and the officers remains unknown, but what happened next spoke for itself. For over half an hour, Chief Scott and the other officers kept James inside the room where he was reportedly beaten and interrogated. At one point, the chief is even said to have asked another officer for their baton, though the request was refused. Scott also allegedly took James' wristwatch and smashed it, while his cell phone was later found discarded in a nearby sewage drain. James was eventually released, issued only a summon for a public nuisance charge. A few weeks later, the incident became public and Chief Scott was placed on unpaid administrative leave. He resigned before he could be formally terminated. But that wasn't the end of it. The former acting chief now faced criminal charges, including aggravated battery, official misconduct, and obstruction of justice tied to the handling of James' [music] cell phone. Months later, Scott pleaded guilty to battery and was sentenced to two years of probation, and his law enforcement certification was revoked for good. But after leaving policing behind, Scott was appointed vice president of elementary school district 159. And once parents learned about his past conduct and pending legal issues, they made their concerns known. Our children deserve great leadership, not subprime leadership and a leadership that deals with integrity and not violence. Our children deserve a role model with integrity and honor. And Carl Scott is not that person to me. And the community, if he is not removed, the community will band together and we will make our voices heard in this community. How does the conduct displayed in the video align with the district's values related to student safety, conflict resolution, and respect? The behavior shown in the video appears inconsistent with the standards we in we expect from those entrusted with the care of our children. >> Okay. Good evening to our community and fellow board members. in response to the things that have been said. Number one, I respect anyone's opinions. I respect your your views, but there are just a couple comments that I would like to make and I I don't have a problem with addressing. When I went and conducted my own statement with CBS, I tried to make it clear and portray exactly who I am and what I stand for. One thing that they did not air is that if we took every person in this room and we put them on public display, would you stay and sit in that room, that same room? Number one, I was not terminated. I resigned prior to going to the police department. I successfully retired as a federal agent. 25 and 1/2 years. I have not had nothing on my record as simple as a writer. >> Scott defended his record and pushed back on the community's concerns. And right after, he would turn the conversation toward James Snow. Let me address what has not been told. The person that was on the opposite side of that, if you don't know his name or his internet name, please search it. I'll say it. James Snoke. His name on the internet is Tyrant the Terminator. He goes around and he purposely tries to create issues. And he finds situations and he tries to blow him up to get a rise out of people. Prior to that event that took place, he came out there before and raised an issue in the Robins Health Clinic and that was our first time ever having any encounter. In between those months of February and July, the same person has made took took time on pages to harass me, cyber bully as well as make threats. So on this day in question, what has not been shown is the fact that while trying to create yet another issue and another rise and videoing and trying to video get capture video of civilians walking in and out of the station that begged him to not video him when he was at at the clinic videoing patients, which is a HIPPO violation, he was trying to video behind this behind the clerk's desk where law enforcement in sensitive information. I couldn't concern had anybody's information in here was on on there. He was trying to video this stuff to get information. So being requested to leave was not his choice. He chose to continue to try to do things and do things. What was not shown was him aggressively coming towards me. But because I'm held at a at a standard at a higher standard, they show me. >> Thank you so much, Mr. Scott. So at this time, I'll turn it up. I'm sorry, ma'am. are the last people that we can at this time. I understand what you're trying to >> I understand >> uh resource officer. We are no we are no longer um taking any more public public comments at this time. >> So thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. That concludes our close session. >> I took account I took accountability. >> You're not going to hold up. >> I took accountability. I did. >> All right. >> Everybody's fault yours. You sound ridiculous. >> We got to finish. I wouldn't leave behind. >> All right. >> In the end, Carl Scott left the vice presidency of elementary school district 159 to become a member of the board of education. In this next case, a deputy believed that having access to police databases meant he could use that power however he pleased. However, what was supposed to be a private search would end up exposing the deputy in ways he didn't see coming. >> Hey, do you have like social media or anything? I'm like, I noticed the ring on his finger, but then again, I'm like, is he a real cop? or is he a fake cop? He's like, "I'm going to find you. I'm going to pull you over." And he's like flirting, like acting like it's a joke. And I'm like, "No, you're not." >> I was just teasing. I was going to find her. >> So, you ran her name, David? You know, I'm married. >> On March 4th, 2026, officers from the Monroe County Sheriff's Office in Florida [music] were notified that one of their deputies had allegedly made a woman feel uncomfortable. But what she was about to tell detectives would raise even more questions. [music] >> All right. So, the reason I asked you to come in today is um I am supervisor of the detective unit. I operate down south. Um we I recently have been investigating one of our deputies for some misconduct and um I'm wondering if you know about this or you know what I'm talking about. >> No. Are you talking about Lamar? >> Yeah. So, I know like what happened to me, but I'm the only other information that I know about him is I was talking to Amber and Scotty, and Scotty had mentioned that he had gotten fired from another department. >> With the confirmation that the woman knew the deputy identified as Lamar Roman, she began walking detectives through exactly how she'd met him in the first place. >> So, what do you like, can you tell me about like your interaction with Lamar, like how it started or whatever? >> [clears throat] >> Yeah. So, I was on set with Bad Monkey pretty much all of February. Um, but the very first day, which was February 3rd, >> um, they had us shuttled over to the first scene and as soon as I get off the bus, it was like immediately it was, "Oh my god, why did nobody tell me we were bringing models to set?" Just being very loud and Okay. >> And I pinpoint them immediately and I'm like, "This is so uncomfortable. It's not how I want my first to be." Like, it's not what I want it to be. >> And this was right when you got off the bus. >> As soon as I was walking off the show, >> and he was with another cop. Um, but at this point, I was like, "Is he a real cop or is he a part of the cops in the show?" I was very unsure. Okay. >> And so then I'm like, "Oh my goodness." So then we our standins go to the where the scene is happening. They're walking us through it and I was hanging out with the standins at one point, but then I parted ways cuz I kind of wanted to see more of what was happening cuz they had us off on the side. >> And he comes up to me and he's like, "Hey, I apologize if I made you feel uncomfortable or disrespected you or anything." And I'm like, "Oh, no, you're fine." And he's like, "What's your name?" came and I was like and he was like do you live here in town in Key West? Are you with the LA crew? And I'm like I live in Marathon. You and my boyfriend moved here a couple of years ago. And then he was like oh cool. So you live here in Marathon. I'm like yeah. And then um they asked us second team to go in. So then we went in and then as soon as we went back out um and I was by myself again, he came back up to me and he's like um he's like, "Hey, do you have like social media or anything?" And I'm like, I noticed the ring on his finger, but then again, I'm like, "Is he a real cop or is he a fake cop?" >> Despite having a wedding ring and being on duty, Lamar wasn't done. And as filming continued, he found more reasons to keep coming back to the woman. >> He like pulled out his phone and I'm not mean enough to be like, "Leave me alone." Right. >> Um, so he like pulls out his phone and he's like, "What is it?" And I was like, "My name." And I was kind of starting to be standoffish cuz I could tell what his demeanor was and like how his like I could tell what he was going after. And so then I'm like, and he pulls me up and then he's like, "Oh, you're popular." And I'm like, "Okay." And then um the other standings. And I walk over there and he's like, "He won't leave you alone, will he?" I'm like, "No." And I mean, this is started ever since I got off the bus. And then um and then they called a second team in again. And then when when we were off, he came back up to me. He's like, "Uh, oh, I can dance by the way." And I'm like, "Cool." Like, "Okay." So then I started getting a little more change in my tone of voice and I'm like, "Cool." And then he um he was like he came up to me like three or four times and I was pulled away by another stand and I was pulled away by a girl that goes to my church and he came up to me again and he was like um I'm going to pull you over. And I'm like no you're not. And he was like I'm going to find you and I'm going to pull you over. And he's like flirting like acting like it's a joke. And I'm like no you're not. And I was like, "My boyfriend would not be happy. I wouldn't recommend that." And then he was like, he starts laughing it off. And then then that's when the church girl pulled me aside and she's like, "You good?" And I'm like, "Yeah, the guy just won't leave me alone." And I looked over at him and he's like leaned up talking to this other police officer. And I'm like, "Okay, this is just like weird." And then the last time he came up to me, he was like, "I'm leaving in 30 minutes." And I'm like, "Are you a real cop or are you fake?" And he was like, he starts laughing. He goes, "I'm a real cop. They like asked us if we want to work certain shifts after our shifts." I'm like, "Okay." So then I'm like, "Okay." And then I end up just walking away. >> Lamar had joked about finding the victim and pulling her over. And on the last day of filming, he made good on >> on February 20th, the last day that like Bad Monkey and everybody was on set. Mhm. >> Um I was telling Amber it was around 4:12 because I texted immediately and I also called my boyfriend to be like, "Yo, this just happened." Um and I was a little past Big Pine and all of a sudden I'm driving and there's like steady traffic, like nothing too bad. And I see this cop on the side here and he cuts off the truck behind me and I'm like and immediately I'm like this is him. like I know it's him and I could see him in my like like rearview mirror and I'm like he better not pull me over and he pulled me over and then he came up to my passenger window and I had my window rolled down and I'm like I knew it was you and like did all my information pop up on your screen? I was like how did you know it was me? He's like I told you I'd find you and pull you over and then he was like and I was hoping your boyfriend was in the car so I could pull him out and give him a hard time. And I'm like, again, I would not recommend that. Um, and he was like, why don't you follow me back on Instagram? And I was like, I'm late. I wasn't technically working that day. I was just going to say bye to everyone and meet a couple more people. And I told him that I was late already just to kind of get out of the situation. And I was like, I have to go. I was supposed to be there at 4:00 and can I go? And he's like, um, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just kept kind of like looking around in my car and I'm like, "Can I please go?" And then he finally just like, "Yeah, let me go." Yeah. I was telling people about it um down there and he like reported and I'm like, "I don't feel I don't know." >> Records showed Lamar had searched the victim's information through the state's law enforcement database multiple times over several weeks. With that on the table, investigators brought him in to explain himself. >> Do you understand each of these rights? >> Yeah. >> With these rights in mind, do you want to talk to me today? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So um so our criminal investigation is regarding you. >> Okay. >> And some database stuff, right? So [clears throat] do you [music] have an idea what this is about? >> Uh I think so. >> Okay. Well, what do you think this is about? I [music] know I've stopped people um did some you know investigation and kind of look like on David but then that's that's it. >> Okay. Who did you look at David for? um for warrants. >> Okay. I mean, I'm not talking in in in our law enforcement capacity, right? >> Um this goes a little bit beyond that. Okay. So, you know, it's my understanding based on what we've seen. Are you aware of somebody named some? >> Yes. >> Okay. How how do you know who she is? Uh, I talked to her. >> What does that mean? >> Uh, at a detail. [music] >> At a detail. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Can you like >> describe what you mean? Like tell me tell me what you need to talk about. >> Okay. Well, it was kind of like a thing where she like gave me her name. We were kind of teasing, >> hitting on her. Like >> it was kind of like one of those things. >> Flirting. Okay. I mean, that's >> You're allowed to flirt, right? Yeah. >> Um, so you you met her on a detail. >> Mhm. >> What detail? >> Uh, bad monkey. >> Okay. And after you met her, like what happened after that? >> She was like giving me hints. I was like, "Hey, like good luck finding me, whatever." It's like, you know, I was just saying like, "I will something like that. I can ren her name on him and I and then kind of went from there. >> Lamar had framed his contact with the woman as mutual, just teasing and flirting, but investigators weren't done with him yet. >> Like when you said, she was saying good luck finding you. Was that in like text or like >> in in person? >> It was in person. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Now, so that was all in the detail. You kind of were flirting, going back and forth at any point. Did you guys exchange numbers or anything? >> No, I just got her Instagram. >> Okay. You got her Insta? Did you hit her up on Insta at all? >> Yeah. >> Okay. What was that exchange like? >> Just a like it was nice to meet you and >> just sliding in her DMs. >> Yeah. >> Again, I'm listen I'm not >> um So you was she communicating back and everything on instance? >> No. >> Okay. >> No, I just said one thing and kind of just like went back off cuz I don't know. I was Oh god. you know, I'm married, so it's >> okay. As far as I'm concerned, this stays with us, right? Beyond this room, >> um I don't have much control, but >> yeah, >> I have no place to tell anyone about anything else, right? >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> Um so, back to her. Okay, so you >> met her, [music] >> you got her Insta, followed her a little bit. Yeah. >> Um >> did you run her David? >> Yes. Why did you run, David? >> Um, for some reason I didn't need to, but I I don't know. I I knew right when I did that, I was like, what I do? So, I kind of went back um but cuz I I I was able to find her on uh >> on Insta. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Well, I mean, I I got her Insta that day. >> Yeah. Um, but I'm just saying like, you know, I was [music] just teasing her. I was going to I was going to find her, you know, and >> So, you ran her name in David? >> Yeah. >> I mean, like if I did an M&I first. >> Okay. She ran her Mi to see if she had Mi, did she? >> She Did you find any info in M&I? >> Um, yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then did you use whatever you found in M&I to run her in David? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Lamar admitted he did a database search and that it wasn't the only rule he'd broken. At this point, the investigators pressed further, starting with whether Deputy Roman had done it more than once. >> Did you run it more than once in David? >> No. >> Did you run that name maybe more than once in David? >> U I don't know how many times. >> Okay. >> I think it was once that I recall. Um, did did anything else happen with this female with your involvement? Any databases? >> Nothing. Nothing else? >> Nothing else? >> Nothing else. >> Okay. Did you pull her over? >> Uh, I did. >> Okay. When was that? >> Uh, I don't remember. >> You can't remember. Was it recent? >> I think like last week. >> I don't know. say a couple weeks ago. >> When you pulled her over, did you know it's her? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did um did you have a legal reason to pull her over? >> No. >> Okay. So, on the 19th, when you pulled her over, [clears throat] there's no legal reason for the stop. Did you call out the stop on the radio? >> I tried, but [clears throat] I had no uh reception. But I was that point I was just going to say hi, you know, got you and we were laughing and then and that's kind of it. >> Okay. But you didn't put in the cat or anything for it. >> Okay. Did you create a holl with her tag? >> Yes. >> Okay. Is that how you knew she was driving us south that day? That's why you passed multiple cars. It looks like your camera went on about three times prior to getting behind her. >> Yeah. So, you're pursuing her in an effort to just stop her and say, "Hey, >> that's stupid." >> All right. Did you have any legal reason to put her in the hot list? She's suspected of anything? >> No. >> Have you guys communicated since that time? >> Um, no. I think that's that was it. I just wanted to do that and I think no, but that's that's the last time. >> At this point, Lamar had admitted the stop, the hot list, and the lack of any legal reason for either, but investigators wanted to know if this was really the only time he'd crossed that line. >> Has there been any other individuals that you've like looked up and David or anything? >> No. Um, it's for like for other cases. I know I've used that for the hot list as well, but that's the only one that I >> for both the hot list, David >> and CIC >> you've used for people with warrants or you're trying to find somebody for a legal reason, right? >> Yeah, but she's Yeah, >> but with her it was just to kind of holler at her. >> Yeah, I know. She was like Yeah. Yeah. See Well, tell me about it, man. What do you mean? >> Well, I mean like I thought she was like a model from like the acting because you know they brought cast on at the B monkey and >> and uh I was like I want to go say hi. And I did. And it was just like you're are you a model? And I got so like fan. She's like no local. And then we got into this thing and then and she put our name. Oh. like you should follow me. He's like, "Well, you like the Insta, you know, things like >> the following." And she does. >> You put her in the OPR? >> I think maybe like the couple days after. I don't I don't remember. But >> like right after you met her. >> Yeah. >> And then you not got any hits, but she didn't. [music] >> It was just tightening. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Did you know that running her and David was illegal? >> Yeah. >> What What was your What was your goal with all this? Like what could be I I I don't know. I I thought that I don't know. I think just meeting someone like that, you know, and kind of getting the high from it and, you know, she was leaning on and it was just one of those things where I don't know, she was the kind of push. >> Even knowing his conduct with the woman was illegal, Lamar did it anyway. Now, the department was moving forward with charges, and Deputy Roman was about to find out what that meant right in front of his wife. >> You have your bondsman and stuff like already lined up. They don't even, you know, >> you know, I I don't have 5K. >> Talk to your wife before you get in the car. >> So, we're we're trying to give them Sorry. Go ahead. >> Talk to you how to get, you know, money and stuff like that. >> So, if he'll bring it um after two little I mean after this um you know I know he's already contacted attorney my advice is have an attorney you know get with state attorney right the prosecutor and um at that at this point it's just kind of it's in their hands it's kind of out of my hands so but they're the ones Let me just union. >> Um I mean you can contact the union. I'm not sure what they will do cuz he's still probationary employee. Um but then they have some >> Can we not now in front of us by No, I mean I told him you never done You can give the volunt. >> As the arrest wrapped up, one officer had a few final words for Lamar. >> No weapons check. Okay. If I have any problems, I'll let you know. Yeah. >> But it should be in the system, right? As long as it's in the system, it should be >> should be good just for service. Roman, uh, I'm sorry, man. It is what it is. We're here now. But just remember what I said about this a speed bump, okay? >> No, it seems that way right now, but in in the scheme of things, you'll get past this, bro. All right, listen. I wish you the best of luck. Okay, keep your head up, man. >> In the end, Lamar Roman was transported to the Monroe County Jail. He was released after posting a $50,000 bond. At the end of June, Lamar Roman entered a pre-trial intervention program, meaning that as long as he completes the required tasks, like community service or counseling, his charges [music] could be dropped. Next up, a state trooper believed he could pin a felony on an innocent woman without anyone ever finding out the truth until the woman herself decided to report it, unlocking a revealing investigation. >> Having these rates in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? >> I wish that none of this is going on right now, but yes, sure. I'll talk >> again. Let's stay away from the plane down here. I downloaded because someone told me to look at something and it turned out to be >> How many files are >> I mean a lot. >> On July 1st, 2024, investigators with the Panelis County Sheriff's Office made their way to the county jail to confront 33-year-old Deputy Trevor Willis, one of their own. When the investigators went after him, Trevor had no idea about what was going to happen next. >> Hi. >> Hey, come check out this tag back here. You got this uh something's wrong with your tag. I didn't know you were. So this change on your back there. >> Yeah, we do. >> Absolutely. >> Pull his arm out. >> Gotcha. >> All right. Thank you. >> When officers approached Trevor, he offered no resistance. What Trevor didn't know yet was that inside that interrogation room, detectives were about to ask questions they already had answers for. I know I'm sure that you have a bunch of questions. Your name came up in a case of mine that I think you'll be able to help me out with. Um, and I want to hear everything you have to say. I want to clear some things up. And then having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? >> Uh, I wish that none of this is going on right now, but yes, sure. I'll talk. >> Okay. Yeah, I can definitely understand that. So, you mentioned uh Facebook Messenger. What other social media apps you use? How about Kick? What >> Kick? >> Really? >> Yeah. Really? What is Kick? social media app. >> I've heard of like WhatsApp, but kick >> WhatsApp and another one. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, here I am sitting in front of you affording you an opportunity to clear some things up and to explain things. Everything's explainable. >> Mhm. >> Right. So, right now I just have one side of something and I'd really like to get your side and it involves your kick account. >> Okay. So, let's stay away from the what the hell is kick because you know what kick is. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, how long have you been on kick? >> I had an account years ago, so I'm assuming it's the same one we're talking about now. >> At first, Trevor claimed he had no idea what kick even was. But the moment the officer made clear that they already knew about his account, the act was dropped. What Trevor didn't realize was that playing dumb wasn't going to get him very far. What? >> Trevor, again, let's stay away from the plane down here. >> No, I didn't hear what you said. >> Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, I do have that one. >> Okay, >> that one's old. >> That one's old. >> Yeah. >> And then what about uh So, there's two Is that old, too? >> I don't know. I mean, to be quite straight with you, >> I would love that. >> I don't remember which one I used. >> You used both on two different kick accounts. >> Okay. >> So, let's stay away from the playing dumb. >> Okay. >> Because it's not going to help. Like I said, everything's explainable. >> Mhm. and I don't want to just see this one side of it. I want to talk to you. I want to get a better understanding and I want to see if you can help me find some other aspects of this investigation. So, you have two you've had two different kick accounts. >> Mhm. >> Within the last 2 months. >> Okay. >> What's Okay. >> I'm I'm following you. >> Okay. Tell me about your first kick account. So, which one? What do you want me to tell you about? >> What were you doing on there? >> It's a It's a chat app. >> So, what are you chatting about? >> I don't know. I mean, probably kinky. >> What's kinky? >> Like, >> okay. What kind of are you into? >> Like sometimes transgender stuff, sometimes straight stuff. It just depends. >> Okay. What do you search for? >> Usually transgender or straight. >> So those are the search terms that you're using. >> Well, I mean whatever term words. >> So when was the last time that you were on kick? >> I don't know. Few weeks ago. >> Few weeks ago >> at the most. >> Okay. Um so when you log log into kick, what's the first thing that you do when you log on? Like do you go out and search for a specific chat thread? >> I mean you can or people can send them to you. It depends on what groups you're in. >> Okay. So tell us about the groups you were in the last time you were on kick. >> Okay. So I think I was in like an anything goes group like just random different kinds of >> and then how did the conversation go in that one? Like there's a lot of different kinds of Right. I think we kind of established that already. >> What what do you want to know? >> As the officer pressed Trevor for answers, his responses grew increasingly evasive, showing that a careful choice about what to reveal. But the deeper the detective dug, the harder it was going to be for Trevor to keep his story together. >> I would like to know um about many of the links that you were sending. >> I've been told to to share different things, but >> Okay. >> So, like what kind of things would you share? Do you know you just send them from different chat groups? >> So you would like forward things from different chat groups. Okay. How long have you had Dropbox? >> Uh I haven't had it for long. I downloaded it because someone told me to look at something and it turned out to be um not into that. >> Okay. Tell us about that. Well, tell us about you receiving it. the they sent it to me. >> You know, you're on a kinky conversation. Somebody's like, "Hey, check this out." >> Okay. So, they had told you to download Dropbox. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, what did they send you? >> It was just It was a link to Dropbox. >> Okay. But then like what was in there? >> What was in the Dropbox? >> Yeah, >> I told you. >> No, but like what did what does that mean? >> Um, individuals perform. >> How many files were there? >> I mean, a lot. When you say a lot, what's that mean? >> Hundreds. >> Hundreds. So, from that one Dropbox link, there were hundreds, >> I guess. I don't know. >> Okay. So, Trevor, um, as part of this investigation, we had obtained and executed search warrants for your kick accounts. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, with that, we do get [snorts] your messages. >> Okay. So, keeping in mind that we have all of your messages and we can see what it is that you are chatting to people about and what it is that you are discussing. You want to reframe the responses that you just given. >> What What are you looking for here? What can I do to help you out? >> To help me out first would be honest answers. I can understand self-preservation. And I can understand trying to minimize and throwing things away and hiding things under the rug. However, what I need from you is to put that aside and to be honest with me because like I said, a lot of the information, a lot of answers, we have it. But we this is what we have, right? And we have the files. What I don't have is the how did we get here, Trevor? [snorts] How did you get to this place in your life to be participating in here? >> When officers brought up the materials Trevor had been exchanging on kick, he admitted to sharing and receiving some type of adult content. But detectives knew it was more than that. So when Trevor sensed the officers weren't convinced, he decided to change the angle of the story. >> Be honest with you straight up. this up and I don't know how the track the out. >> You're seeking it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out how to figure this out. I I I don't understand it. >> Trying to figure out, Trevor. >> Why Why these people are doing this? I don't understand it. >> You're in here and you're talking about going to Thailand. And Trevor, here's the thing. You're in here sending it to people. You're transmitting it. You're not just receiving it. You're receiving it and you're transferring it. You're sending it out. You're doing this at work. You're doing this at home. You're doing this on your phone. You've [snorts] got Dropbox. You've got Vega. So, where else do you get these files from? >> This is it. Like, this is this is this is I'm trying to understand because I don't What do you want me to say? >> I want you to be honest. I know it's not easy to talk about. I'm being honest with you at this point and you're not wanting me to believe it. >> Trevor, you're not being [snorts] honest. >> You're [sighs] not. >> Well, what do you want me >> sending it out and stuff is not making it better? >> No, it's not. Which is why I stopped because I I I sit there and I'm like, what what can I do? Because like my brain, what I was thinking was is how do I compile this? How how do I how do I figure out a way of of doing something about this? and and there's nothing there's nothing I can do. >> But your solution was sending it instead. >> No, my solution was is when you when you how you collect it, how you get these people into the into the the the area, how you collect them is you have send to receive. So you send it you you you to find out who has it. So in my brain, I'm collecting these people. I'm trying to figure this out. Realizing the officers weren't buying his account, Trevor claimed that everything he had done on kick was part of a personal effort to catch the real bad guys. But when detectives looked at the chat record, what they found told a very different story. >> So the people that you're talking to in Kick, who are they? >> I don't know. And I don't know how to figure that out. That's that's literally who stops. I don't know how to work out who they are. I don't know how to do any of that. So >> ask for their names. >> Like somebody's going to tell you their name. >> Have you asked? No. >> Have you met up with any of these people? Okay. >> No. And I obviously I wouldn't unless I was doing this, but I can't because I'm not on the law enforcement side. I'm trying to collect these people. Like in my mind, I'm trying to get them together so that I can I can figure out who they are. Like you you have to build a trust, you know. >> But Trevor, in all of the chats, there's nothing of you trying to figure out. Nothing in the chat because if you tell somebody in the chat, "Oh, hey, I want report you because I think you're disgusting." >> Well, yeah. That's not going to get you very far. >> Exactly. So, you have to play their game. >> What I'm saying, though, is that you you have these multiple chat threads, whatever, whether it's a group chat or whether they're individual chats, and the conversation is only about trading. There's no conversation to figure out who they are. There's no conversation to figure out what's going on here. Of course not because you don't have >> But you're sitting here But you're sitting here telling us that that was your goal. Your goal was to figure out what are they doing? Who are these people? And mentally, I'm having a really hard time understanding that and having that make sense because it's a load of bull. >> That's fine. >> I know it's fine, but I'm not the one sitting on that side of the table dealing with all of this. Cuz like I said in the start of this when you first started feeding us lies, we're giving you an opportunity here to step forward to be a man to honor that badge that you wear every damn day and have some integrity and own up to what you've been doing. >> The chat history told a story that had nothing to do with catching criminals with no attempts to gather evidence or to report anyone. Cornered and running out of options, Trevor changed his approach once again. In all of the people that you've chatted with, have you ever gotten any names or information on them? >> No, because they disappear. >> Okay. >> Because K deactivates their accounts, >> which is good. Thank God. But every time I try to rework it out, like try to to to to last long enough, so to speak, to try to work out who these people are, it all disappears. So, like literally a couple weeks ago, I gave up. I I don't I don't there's nothing I can do and you can tell me it's [ __ ] and that's fine. But what you want is the truth and that's what I'm telling you. I I know how it looks and that's fine. >> I would think though that like seeing something that like oh my god like this rocked my world and like something that you're not supposed to see something that's not supposed to happen that that would you would have a recollection of what was going on in that file. >> Yeah. It was it was someone like that was what was going on in that file. >> I mean I know what is Trevor. >> Well, what what do you want? You want me to remember the exact picture of who the child was? >> I don't I don't remember the exact picture. >> Could that be because you've seen so many files? >> No, probably not. Probably because it's not something that I care to. >> Have you made files yourself? >> No. Like literally, you're not going to find anything on my phone. Go through it. Please do. I don't make files. I don't like it. I I I'm literally telling you the honest answer and nobody wants to believe it. Which, you know, I get it. It's unbelievable. >> Trevor, you were reported because you're sending it. >> I get it. >> That's how this all started. >> But no, it's >> so we don't get tips and work people who receive the files. If you receive it, that's not the problem, right? It's you sending it out and promoting it more and getting more people involved. That's the problem. If you received that file, you could have reported the account that it came from. You could have reported it to Nicknick. You could have reported it here to your job. You know that there's different ways to report it and you didn't. >> I guess let me put it this way. I I have no faith in the system. So, I I I didn't know what would come from it. Like, if I were sit down and I report it now, what am I going to be able to do? But you didn't even try >> because I was scared. >> I was scared this would happen. >> In the end, Trevor Willis resigned and was later released under strict conditions, including electronic monitoring and restrictions on internet access and contact with After initially pleading not guilty to multiple charges across two separate cases. Trevor later pleaded guilty in December 2025. Trevor was ultimately sentenced to four years in prison, followed by five years of supervised probation, and is expected to remain incarcerated until around 2030.