He's playing in a vehicle. >> Well, I got my cousin coming to beat me up, though. I can wait for my cousin to come pick me up. I don't I don't I'm not stealing. I gave her THE HELL'S BACK. >> I'M GOING TO JAIL ANYWAY. You're going to be a [ __ ] anyway. You're being >> Sometimes police officers come [music] across criminals who aren't exactly masterminds. These individuals walk into a situation believing they've got the perfect plan or talk their way out of any accusation, but more often than not, their confidence crumbles the moment law enforcement steps in >> you know about >> I'm not going to deal. >> Okay. Okay. We're going to take a seat in my car. >> What are you doing? What are you doing? On April 27th, 2024, police responded to a shoplifting incident at a Safeway where a woman with a small child was seen swinging the stroller dangerously while trying to flee security. Oh my god. Oh my god. >> I came in with a >> No. Give me my >> Stop. I got >> I [ __ ] came out with this. >> I saw you coming with >> You came in with a bag. >> You're going to let me go. >> No. Give me my baby. >> I want my son. Give me my son. Give me my son. >> Give me my son. >> We're going to go outside. >> No, we're not. No. >> Yes, we are. >> I'm not going to jail. >> That's a sign. >> This is her boy. >> He's great. He's been handling this very well. >> Hi, Bubba. >> Not a single tear shed. >> Hi. >> No, she didn't care about his wellbeing. Do >> you have any weapons on you I need to know about? No, >> I'm not going to deal. >> Okay. Okay. We're going to take a seat in my car. What are you doing? What are you doing? You're still going to >> The child falls out of the stroller, but a passerby catches him before he hits the ground. Witnesses say the woman thrashed the child around during the altercation. >> For what? Get out and get into the car. >> I need my son. Where's my son? >> All right. Come on. You really care about him when you were stealing. You >> can't touch me like this. >> Trying to put you in the car, man. I need an ambulance. >> Oh, I need an ambulance. >> Stop. Stop. >> You can't touch me like that. >> Stop. >> You cannot touch me like that. >> Stop. >> I need an ambulance now. I need an ambulance now. >> Do you understand your rights? Fantastic. >> Where is my son? >> Shut up. >> The kid fell out of the trailer. Passer by go and grab him so he doesn't actually like hit the ground or anything. >> Okay. Security explains they offered to let her pay and leave, but she fought them and ran. Officers find bags of stolen goods and charge her with theft and obstruction. Where did he end up going? >> Uh, he got into a beige Toyota and then they left going that direction. But yeah, one of our LP was kind of able to just deescalate that situation and get him to leave. >> Okay. >> And that's when she came back and started fighting with him again. >> Okay. What was she taking? >> Oh, it was a whole card. >> Okay. that whole thing. >> These bags are from decent mode. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'm going to take some photos real quick. >> Okay. Cool. You want me to flip it over so you can get everything? >> No, you're all good, man. >> Still just acting. Okay. >> Yeah. Once I saw her like start to run out the door and then knock the kid down in the [ __ ] hole. >> I got fire in route. Someone bring in a car seat. Okay. She's under arrest for theft three and then Oh, I guess I'll just let her know. >> All right. So, right now you're under arrest for theft three and obstruction. Okay. >> Can you get her name in? >> No. What's up, gentlemen? >> We got a kiddo in there. If you guys want to check on the kiddo first and then check on mom after ID. >> Hey, we're trying to figure out your your kid's name. What's your kid's name? Ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am. Talking to you. Hello. Fire is going to come check you out here shortly. What's your What's your kiddo's name? >> Police note the woman shows no concern for her child and refuses to cooperate. Since no family is available, officers decide to contact Child Protective Services CPS. >> Yeah. >> Is that accurate, ma'am? that like during this whole thing, kiddo was just getting tossed back and forth, back and forth. It might have hit the ground maybe if the guy didn't catch up. >> She was definitely being neglected. He was getting trashed around his head over tipped over twice. Um he didn't get tipped over a couple times. >> He has not shed a single tear the entire time, though. He has not um said a complaint. He's handled it very well. He seems to be a very happy guy. He's very smart. He knows where his shoes go. He knows where keys are. He's >> Yeah, he's great. Yeah, she's not willing to talk. >> Before we do this, is there anyone else that can come get the child? >> She's not willing to talk at all. >> I mean, you can try to talk to her. She's >> Okay, ma'am. Before we go any further with stuff, you're That's your child, correct? Is that correct? >> Ma'am, >> that's your child. Okay. Is there anyone else that can come get your child? >> I don't know. Not that I know of. >> Not that you know of. Okay. Well, you are under arrest. So, what's going to happen is we're going to have to remove your child and contact CPS. >> Huh? >> If you don't have anyone that can come get your child, we're going to have to contact CPS. >> Okay. >> Huh? The woman claims she is pregnant and swallowed drugs. Officers suspect she may be lying or under the influence, so she is taken for medical evaluation. >> They swallow me. I'm pregnant. >> You're pregnant and you swallowed what? >> Huh? >> You're pregnant and you swallowed what? >> Huh? >> You need to talk louder. I can't hear you. >> I'm trying. Huh? >> What did you swallow? >> Huh? >> What? >> Fetties. >> Fetties. Can you swallow fetties and you're pregnant? That's a smart thing to do. >> So, fellas, the baby's checked out good. Did she get struck or did we know if she got hit with anything? >> She's lying to me and so saying she tried to swallow dope or did swallow dope or something, but other we didn't use any like force. So, she didn't get >> records reveal a prior CPS case involving the same woman and child during a previous shoplifting arrest where she had been deemed unfit to care for him. >> End up going to the hospital besided at large. She asked no one else to come get the child. So, we're going to have to do the child rem. >> She said she swallowed dough and we don't have staffing really to have someone sit on >> but we're going to have to have someone sit with the child. So, that's going to remove two. So, we're just going to have her go to the hospital. >> Yeah. >> Okay. We are taking kids, though. >> She has no one else. >> Oh, and we're sitting on her until she goes to jail. >> No, we're not going to sit on her. >> Take a buddy. I'll take your last one. >> She said that she's pregnant and swallowed drugs. And then with this child, she doesn't We don't have anybody that can come get this child. >> Bye, buddy. >> Come here. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> Let's do it. Got him. Yeah. >> 25. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Reckless obstruction three. >> Okay. >> For myriad of warrants or theft three and instruction too. So that's fun. >> Hi. Okay. Uh so during I've read the Tquila report briefly. It looks like uh last year the she was brought to Valley due to medical stuff with a shoplift incident. She had a son with her and medical staff thought that due to her mental state she wasn't fit to uh take care of the kid. So this is a prior CPS intake number. >> Officers determined she has multiple outstanding warrants. CPS is notified and the child is safely taken into custody. >> All right, see you in a little bit, little man. >> We get vitals are stable, blood sugar is good. She uh good punch have the most physical activity she's had in a long time. That's why she's diaphragic and sweaty. Um she is actively trying to like roll her eyes back in her head when we open it for a pen light. people's armed equal and reactive meaning that no like opiates on board a significant amount. No. >> Um and uh then you know just a couple things we can do to make to see like if they're faking >> being unconscious that explain that to her and then she started asking for the hospital because she adjusted drugs and uh is pregnant but nothing we see corroborates that at all as far as vitals and anything. So >> Okay. You're doing a pretty good job faking. It's one of the better ones I've seen. >> Nothing. Bad acting classes. >> No. Oh. Oh, sorry. My bad. Um, took a cart full of [ __ ] So, and then basically use the kid as a weapon to bat off the security. >> Are there is there any warrants on her that you can book some >> Yeah. >> Yeah. What do you mean? >> There's a whole bunch. >> Well, absolutely. >> That's what I >> CPS, this is Heidi. >> Hello. Hey, Heidi. This is Officer BC with the camp police. >> So, what's the situation? >> So, mom was shoplifting here at the Safeway. She was trying to get away from the security guards with her merchandise. kiddo was in a stroller and she was like wiggling kid around and then as soon as she got to the front entrance nearly like tipping the stroller over and passer by or bystander caught the kiddo and then we arrested her and I'll I'll I'll be bringing the kid back to the station here. >> I'll notify my supervisor. >> Uh okay. >> During transport, the woman refuses to cooperate repeatedly claiming she is pregnant in pain and denied her rights. She demands a lawyer and medical tests. >> Why are you being like that? >> There's no reason for you to fall. >> I can't. I'm >> sit in the seat. Can you act like an adult, please? >> Hey, ma'am. I understand you don't feel well and that you're pregnant. So, I don't want to rip you and pull you into this car, but I will. >> You need to We are >> But you need to stand up and sit your butt down before I have to physically remove you. >> I'm trying. >> Okay. Put your feet on the roof before you push yourself up. >> I'm trying. >> Okay. Would you like assistance? Cuz I will assist you. >> My body is >> There you go. Okay. Rotate your butt upwards. >> Sit up on your bottom. >> There you go. Stay right there. >> You need to stay leaning up. We're going to the hospital right this second. There you go. Holy crap. >> You're going to the hospital, but your kiddo is going to be going with CPS. All right. >> All right. Ready, bud. >> Yeah. >> Hey, Tanya. So, we're here at the hospital. And look, we're at the hospital. I'm not here playing any games with you. So, don't do any of that [ __ ] you've been doing. You're going to walk in the hospital. You're not right. I get it. You need help. We're going to get you help. Come on. If you be cool with me, I'm going to be cool with you. >> And close my door. >> My son. >> Your son? >> Yeah. >> He's safe. He's with us. Uh, I don't know what they're going to do if they're going to do CPS or not, but we're getting him a safe one place to stay. >> I can't breathe. >> Hey, were you able to prep your car? >> I can't breathe. That's just pushing my stomach. >> You have to get this eye on me. It's hurting my stomach. I'm pregnant. >> I have lice and I have I'm a pregnant woman and I have told you this is pressing my stomach. I don't care. It's pressing my stomach. You have to get off my stomach. I'm a pregnant woman. >> I know. I am afraid of woman and you have to get this off of my stomach. I have wife and I Did you tell the hospital that? Did you tell the girl that? >> You have Damian Adams. It's hurting my stomach. It's hurting my stomach. >> No, it's hurting my stomach and I'm pregnant. Stop. You're hurting me. I have to use the bathroom. I have to use the bathroom. >> I'm in a piss all over this back seat. I have to use the bathroom. I have to. I've been asking to use the bathroom the whole time. I'm a pregnant woman. You're pressing on my stomach. What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? You are refusing me to get a kit. I'm a and you're refusing to give me a kit. What is wrong with you? I am a pregnant woman and I'm about to pick all of the stick in the present myself. >> You don't want to do that. >> I told you. >> What is wrong with you? This is unlawful. And this is unlawful. I told you I had to use the bathroom. And I told you that I couldn't breathe. We're going to jail. So, >> I don't care where we're going. >> They're going to their cars going to need to know that I am a pregnant woman with AIDS. >> And the hospital does not verify any of that because why? Because they did not want the hospital to know that the hospital is 2064 and they're all true. And my son has medications that he needs to take at a certain time. And if my son dies cuz he didn't get his medicine, they only want the key to it. Where's my chain and where's my ring? Are they on my property? >> It's in your belongings back here. >> They better be. You said what did you say to me? >> I said it's in your belongings bag. >> Yeah, I don't think it is. And how come you didn't let me go to the bathroom when I >> I didn't. You went to the bathroom multiple times. >> A pregnant woman. Why didn't they take a pregnancy test there? Why didn't they do anything there? >> I've explained that to you already. >> No, you didn't. >> Okay. >> You told me that not you me not doing a thing with you did not have anything to to do with them not giving me a patient like you said. So, how is it not to help me? The woman is charged with child neglect, obstruction, possession of a controlled substance, and tampering with evidence. Her child is medically cleared and placed under CPS care. Even small crimes can destroy lives when children are put in danger. True love for a child means protecting them, not using them to escape consequences. All right, let's move to this next case where things might get even messier. >> Yes, if you don't want, I'm detaining. Okay, >> I really don't give up. >> In July, police detained a man outside Home Depot after a heated situation. The man and his companions argue with officers, accusing them of using excessive force and racial bias. You >> kidding me? You came over here on some aggressive >> TURN AROUND. TURN AROUND. >> Turn around. Turn around. Turn around. >> Why are you arresting me? >> Turn around. >> What are you kidding me, bro? Are you kidding me? >> About what? >> Stop. Stop. >> SHUT UP. >> ABOUT WHAT? YO, >> RELAX, DUDE. RELAX. I'm recording it. Don't worry. Back up. >> Back up, dude. You're not listening to me, man. >> You're not listening to me. Stop. Stop hitting me. Stop. >> Stop hitting me, bro. >> Relax. Are you kidding me? Yo, relax. Relax. Relax. >> Relax. Get my phone. >> Relax, dude. We're not grabbing anything. Chill out. >> I literally step back. Step back. No. Step back. Step back. [laughter] No. Step back. Step back. Come over here. >> Excuse me. Can you get another officer here, please? >> Step back. Step back. >> You want me to take your [ __ ] >> Babe, babe, step back. Back up. >> SIR, WHAT THE YOU DEALING WITH ME LIKE THIS FOR? >> WHAT YOU DEALING WITH ME like this for? >> What did I DO TO YOU, BRO? >> RELAX. HEY, >> back up. >> Let's go. Let go. You're a baby. >> Let go. >> [ __ ] to you. You >> No. No. Look. Look. Look. >> You don't even KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU JUST want to attain people you >> cuz he's black. >> Step back and sit down. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Stop. Stop. Watch out. Watch out. >> Step back. You have a baby in your head. Step back. >> So move. >> Step back. >> A woman holding a baby claims she and her boyfriend were only arguing and that officers unnecessarily targeted her boyfriend because he is black. She insists the officer should have deescalated instead of immediately detaining him. >> Me three times on camera. Doesn't matter. I don't care what you do. >> Okay. And you over here harassing him, too. >> Yeah. I step out and I just put him in cuffs. >> Testimony. >> Okay. Whatever. Step over here. >> No. >> Step over here. >> Relax. >> He didn't He didn't He didn't do nothing. >> Listen. Listen. That's not how this goes. That's not how this goes. I walk up and if you don't want to listen to me Yes. If you don't want to listen, I'm detaining him. Yeah. Okay. I really don't give a ID. Just Just calm down. Just calm down. Let him >> Can you girl? >> Give me your ID. Give me your ID. >> I don't have my ID. >> Give me your ID. >> I don't have my ID, homie. >> I got big and over here trying to just people up without asking no questions. Calm down. >> Yes. >> You You'll be able to speak to another officer. It's fine. So respectful. >> I got the whole unarmed trying to talk to somebody. >> Cuz this man, we were all arguing. Me and my boyfriend were arguing and this man just come to scoop him up. >> Who's your boyfriend? >> He's in the car now. >> Okay. >> All right. And who are these people to you? >> They're just They were just witness. >> All right. Let's get out of this and this man just [ __ ] up. >> Oh, wa. Okay. All right. >> I'm upset. I'm sorry. But he over here put his hands on me and my baby. >> Yeah, 100% she's hitting [ __ ] >> Okay. And he's over here putting his hands on me. >> Witnesses tell police they saw the woman hitting the man, not the other way around. They claimed the man was trying to leave with the baby when the woman escalated by screaming and striking both him and an officer. >> Us up the whole time, then that's a whole different thing. I'm not talking you up. I won't respect you just like you. >> You're not respecting talk to You're not You're screaming on a baby's talk to me. You're pissing me off. >> Go. Go to the sidewalk. You're all you're doing is ruining everything for yourself >> because he disrespected me. >> Take five. Take five minutes. >> Five minutes to take a breath. Okay. >> All you guys have to help situation. >> You're walking into the middle of the street with a >> Get yourself in trouble. >> I'm not getting in trouble. What did I do? Okay. >> I will. As long as you maintain this, we're good. Were you uh did you witness the song? >> I did. So, I was in um >> Okay. On video, too. >> All right. >> Okay. So, >> so let's let's walk away from him. >> Okay. >> So, I was at Twin Peaks with them, right? >> I was in Twin Peaks with them and then she was sitting she I guess he was on the other side. She came where I was. She sat down. I guess she >> This is in Twin Peaks. >> Twin Peaks. I guess she seen him and then they went around. She grabbed him. They started coming out. So I told my husband, "Let's leave." Cuz there's a baby involved. >> Sure. >> Um so we follow him here. They were here. She He was like, "Listen." >> Yeah. We're 104. >> She He He told her, "Listen, you need to calm down. Stop hitting me. I'm taking the baby with me." >> I got it all here on video. >> So he put the baby in the car. She started screaming. She started hitting him. He was like, "Listen, stop it. You shouldn't be hitting the guy." Took the baby, put the baby in the car, screaming, hitting him. Then the police came. The police told him to come back. They got out of control, which he wasn't wrong. They were out of control. She >> officers explained that placing someone in handcuffs is standard procedure for deescalation during domestic disputes. They emphasize it doesn't automatically mean arrest, but helps control the situation. >> Just the >> just the alterc may I see that altercation >> just with the uh just with the um the the girl and the guy. >> So, what you guys witnessed was the woman hitting him. >> I saw the police come down. Honestly, I'm going to be honest. Black dude, >> white girl. She was hitting him and he was screaming. >> This this So I had to run out here just to say, "Look, he did nothing wrong. Watch the video and listen cuz cuz he came aggressive at the dude. Throw him in the back of the car." >> When when we handle our situations >> when we put someone in hand cuz that doesn't mean they're going to jail immediately. That's fine. You know what I mean? We That's what we do to to deescalate >> and then we could try to work it out from there and then see who's the problem and and then that's you know what I mean? >> But let's uh let's look at this first. It's It's hard to see, but but you can you can hear the conversation. >> You can You can take the phone. It's >> Oh, sure. >> But you'll pretty much hear the conversation. Like >> it's hard to see the people, but you can hear. >> And were they at Twin Peaks drinking? >> They was. I I saw them uh >> when they got to the corner here and I started recording when they got halfway cuz I saw like it was getting a little crazy. The detained man complains about tight handcuffs and insists he wasn't resisting. Officers try to calm him down, explaining their perspective that responding to screaming requires urgent action. >> All right. What is your name? >> Do you have your DL on you? >> Is it in your pocket or just let ID? >> Is that is it in there? That's right. >> It's in there. >> Okay. I'm going to grab your ID. >> Okay, that's fine. And then we'll go just loosen the cups a little bit. I can feel my hand. >> I will. As long as you maintain this, we're good. >> Okay. I'm chilling. I don't need to hear anything else. >> All right, >> let's walk away from >> stay there. Stay there. Stay there, >> dude. I just told you to calm down. >> I'm going to go around. >> Okay, >> so calm down. >> Can you communicate with me? >> Dude, no. I don't need to tell you what I'm doing. I don't need to tell you what I'm doing. But if you don't calm the down, then it's not going to You're not going anywhere. Do you understand? >> What are you Are you on something right now? >> On what? >> I'm asking you. What are you on? You're acting like somebody very irrational like all right, bro. >> Please. The left one is so tight, >> man. Come on, man. Come on, bro. >> No, no, no. I I can't feel my Look, sir. >> Your left one. >> The left one. Please loosen just a little bit more. I can feel it. I cannot feel these fingers right here. I'm being real with you. I'm not trying to >> Dude, I can fit my whole Look, look, dude. I can fit my whole finger in there, bro. I can fit my >> Police explain why they detained the man first when responding to calls of a small woman screaming against a larger man. They prioritize immediate safety. The woman argues that the officer was aggressive and unfair. They hear a small woman. No matter what whether you're Asian, white, or black, if they hear a small woman screaming on the top of her lungs to being abused >> to a larger man, who are we to to downplay that? Why do you assume? >> You called the police. You called the police along with other people calling the police saying that you are screaming. So that's why we come the way we can. >> Okay. >> So understand that. So then now we have to handle the job that you gave us. You called us here and then you hit now you're hitting officers >> for being physical now. >> But then you made it physical. >> Isn't that more kind though? Ask questions before getting physical. >> Now flip side of that. This is just me talking. We don't even have to talk like this. But on the flip side, let's say we did come kumbaya, right? And you're getting your beat. Then you're going to say, >> "Okay, so then it calls for measures to detain somebody." But was I getting >> I didn't think so. >> I don't think that. >> Yeah. I just need to talk to her real quick. If you can hold the baby for me and let me talk to her in private, that'll be great. Okay, that's great. All right. I would have wished that officer came like that. He said, "Move to the car. Move to the car." And he kept screamed at me like I'm at the car and then he just gets all aggressive with me. I wasn't trying to attack him or anything. I wasn't resisting arrest. I followed his orders and I went straight to the car and then I'm in the back of the truck basically. >> Officers clarify that the woman struck an officer during the altercation so she will be arrested for battery on law enforcement. They reassure that the charges will likely be minor and she'll be released soon. >> Verbal, physical, whatever. Yeah, >> we'll detain one party until we figure it out. So, that's why you're putting cuffs. >> So, we'll give you a case number, everything. We're going to do a report on this. Um, I think the the officer has your information. >> Uh, yes. I think it's in my wallet. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's in my whole wallet. >> Um, and then is this your phone? >> Yeah, that's my phone. Thank you. >> So, we're going to do a It's called a domestic report. >> Okay. And it's just a documentation of what happened? >> Yeah, he came here. Yeah. Basically, just it's going to be what he observed. Um, he'll review his body camera footage and everything. Obviously, all that stuff was on tape. >> Okay. >> Um and then because she started hitting him, we have to arrest you for battery on law enforcement. Arrest me. >> No, her. You're your >> You have to arrest her. >> Yeah. >> Are you serious? >> You have to take her to down to the office and everything. >> We have to. >> Oh, come on. >> So, let me let me explain what happens. She'll probably get out tonight. So, >> the woman becomes emotional, worried about her breastfeeding baby. Officers explain the bail process, reassure her about the baby's safety with the father, and prepare to transport her to jail. >> Two hours ago, >> she'll go. So, I'll give you the information. It's sheriff.org. I'll write all this down, but sheriff.org. Type in her name. It'll tell you when she'll be able to get out. She'll get a phone call and everything, be able to call you, all that stuff. So, that's that's what's going to happen. >> I mean, I get I get that she started hitting him because he literally just started being aggressive with me for no reason. and my aggressive girlfriend. We me and her in an argument for her to come over like, "Hey, what are you doing? That's too much." >> Come on, man. >> Like I said, guess the detainer because we showed up to a scene. You guys are arguing, figure out what's going on, prevent further escalation. I'll be honest, it's going to get dropped. It's Broward County. Unless she like stabs an officer, they don't prosecute. So, she's going to take the ride for the night. I'll be honest, it's probably not going to go anywhere, but that's what's up. So, Baby, >> come on, baby. I just wanted to be escorted. >> Okay. I'm sorry. >> Come on. Do you want >> I just wanted to go home. >> You're going to face this way. Okay. >> Okay. >> Do you have anything else on you? Anywhere? >> No. Who's the baby home with? >> That's my boyfriend. >> Your boyfriend? >> Yeah. >> Is that the boyfriend? >> We're going to put Hey, we're going to put her in that car. >> That's my boyfriend. Yeah. >> So, where's the baby? >> Oh, in the car. I think she's in the car. >> Okay. >> How um the bailey we're sorry if I'm going to stay in Joe for like a year or something. >> No. know what's going on because I just want him to talk. >> Officers explain jail procedures, removing piercings, property intake, bond options. The woman apologizes repeatedly, saying she only wanted a police escort home. >> 10%. So maybe if if you set your bond at $1,000, then it'll be hundred bucks. >> Okay. Okay. >> But that's Don't quote me. I'm just saying. I know. I just want to go home with my baby. He's breastfeeding. I understand. But whatever happened for >> whatever happened here today, that's not going to be an option. Okay. >> I know. I know. I'm sorry. I'll get in the car. >> Do you have any piercings or anything? >> Uh, yeah. My stomach is pierced and my ears are pierced. >> Okay. You don't have earrings in. Do you have a >> I do the belly button? No, don't do it here. They'll have I'm just letting you know what's going to happen when you get to the jail. They'll have you take all that stuff off at the jail. And >> you keep my phone. No, no, no. Do you want it to go with you or do you want to go with your >> I'd rather >> Okay. So, it'll um >> it'll go with the officer into your property. Okay. You can't have it back here, but it'll go with the officer into your property, which will go to the jail with you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. >> Life happens, right? >> I called I called I called so that I can be escorted home. So that I can be escorted home with my baby. The woman Carlson faces charges including battery, battery on a law enforcement officer, child neglect, and obstruction. The baby is confirmed safe, and the detained man is released. Even minor arguments can spiral out of control when police get involved, especially if emotions run high. Stay calm, comply first, and sort out misunderstandings later to avoid extra charges. After you see the next case, you may want to think twice. It's shocking. And for more articles, subscribe to Law Zone if you like this. >> I didn't know. >> I didn't know. >> It still has the the >> On Feb 27, 2024, police in Florida responded to a call from Target about an active shoplifter. Loss Prevention observes an elderly woman concealing jewelry in her purse. When officers arrived, they would notice the 80-year-old woman stealing items, but also buying items to make it appear as she was an honest shopper. But what she didn't know is that officers were waiting for her at the checkpoint. >> I didn't know where it was. I called the girl. Okay. >> First, please. >> I didn't know what it was. I wanted to >> officers read her Miranda rights. She admits she had been trespassed from Target before for shoplifting. She claims she called and thought she was allowed back, but has no proof. >> Sure. And I paid for your receipt. >> We're going to ask you a few questions. Okay. But before we do, I'm just going to read you your Miranda rightites. >> All right. >> I'm sorry. >> Before we ask you some questions, I'm just going to read you your Miranda rightites. Okay. >> Yes. I've been in trouble before with you. You have the right to remain silent and anything you say may be used as evidence against you. You have the right to talk to an attorney and have him or her with you now or any time during questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to represent you. If at any time you wish to stop talking or have an attorney present, all question will be stopped at your request. Do you understand these rights? Are you willing to talk to me? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, in the past, have you been >> Yes. >> In the past, have you been trespassed from this target before? >> Yes. Okay. What were you trespassed for? >> For taking something. >> Okay. >> And what brings you back here? >> I did what I had to do when I like shopping here. >> Okay. Will you explain the trespass warning? >> I called and >> when questioned, she denies stealing but admits to opening packages to check. Officers point out surveillance footage showing her dropping and picking up jewelry items, then concealing them. >> Said it was okay. >> Who? >> Whoever is responsible a long time ago. >> Okay. When were you trespassed? >> It's been a few years. >> Do you have anything on paper that says your trespass has been lifted? >> No. >> Any kind of documentation to prove that your trespass was lifted? >> No. >> Okay. I >> did you steal anything today? >> Say again. >> Did you steal anything today? >> No. >> Did you open any packages today? Which one? That one? >> Yes. >> Did you open any other packages? >> No. >> Were the other rings that are in it? >> The earrings that are missing. >> No, I know. Unless it fell out. >> Did you take anything from these packages? No, I just opened that one to be sure of what it was because I wasn't sure and I told her before I paid for it. >> Okay. So, we're not going to find the missing earrings in your pockets or anything. >> No, there's not earrings here. They're stick on things. >> Okay. But we're not going to find those items in your purse. >> Not that I know. >> These are earrings. >> They are. I know. Now I know. Okay. So, we're not going to find the missing ones. >> They're missing. >> So, Joanna, what what we're referencing, we saw on camera and in person, you open these packages and there was multiple times where these items fell on the floor. Hold on, let me finish to where you had to physically bend down to pick them up. Where are those? >> I probably put it back in there. there any >> this package was opened. Did Was this paid for? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I I gave you the receipt. There's the receipt. 1999. I think >> you want to go over the receipt. >> Officers remind her of a trespass order issued in 2021 that permanently banned her from Target property. She insists she believes she was allowed back, but cannot provide documentation. We got Q-tips and then carefree pads. >> I didn't know. >> I didn't know. >> It still has the the white markings on >> that we know the answers to. We're hoping you're going to be honest with us here cuz this is not the first time we've dealt with you. >> I know that. So then we're not trying to pull your bag or pull any tricks on you. >> I did put it back >> in your purse. >> And you put it in your purse, man. >> And then you did not pay for those items and you walked past the final points of sale out to the parking lot. 23rd of 2021. You issued a trespass warning notifying you that you are no longer welcome onto this property. Okay. Do you remember this? >> Not that I wasn't welcome here. After I went and >> Did the deputy explain what this is? >> You were issued a piece of paper. It looked just like this, but it was a pink copy. The deputy explained that you're no longer allowed on this property inside and on the parking lot property. >> I had called. >> Okay. And just like he was saying earlier, do you have any proof as to >> that you called and you were allowed to come back? >> No, I've been coming here for a couple of years. We have no indication saying that you are welcome back onto this property. Okay. So, right now you are currently trespassing according to this trespass warning. >> I'm sorry. >> Okay. >> I'm still not welcome here. >> The trespass warning has has not been lifted. It has no expiration. >> How do how do you do that then? >> You have to contact >> and you have to get full documentation proving that you are allowed to come back here and that this trespass warrant has been lifted. >> I have to have it in writing here. Yes, ma'am. And you have to have signatures from the target themselves. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Confronted with evidence, she continues to deny intentional theft, claiming items might have fallen into her purse. Loss prevention confirms multiple incidents where she concealed items. >> Okay. And also, like he was saying, we have you in person and on camera opening up this package and collecting two items out of this, the earrings, and putting them into your purse. >> They couldn't be in the purse. >> I know. I brought one on the floor and I put it back. >> These earrings have these little white things on the floor. >> Best secure them in this package. This hearing still has the >> This one came out of your purse. >> I don't know. I'm sorry. >> We're just trying to have you be truthful to us. >> I am being truthful. I didn't know. >> I had no idea. >> Do you have pockets on that jacket? >> No. Do you have pockets in your pants? >> No. Are you wearing any of the ear uh the rings or anything? >> No, these are mine. >> Okay. >> Do you happen to walk past the the >> I don't see >> which which >> the aisle she dropped this item to see if there was >> Yeah, I was actually telling dispatch. So, I hope it's in the nose of the time stamp, but um every the two times I saw her drop them on the floor, she picked them back up. both of the earrings. So, there's still one earring. >> I can go to those two spots just to make sure. >> Yeah, if you don't mind because we're we're missing one. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Please don't do this right now. >> Let's see if they have >> My husband just had a stroke. He had surgery. >> I'm sorry. >> I just You guys have the uh the statement paperwork and the willingness to prosecute paperwork. Anything like that? >> A [clears throat] bunch of blanks over there >> on the floor. >> On the floor. >> Yeah, that was on the second of the two instances. I was going with the statue at that point, too. >> Yeah. Cool. >> I did not take it intentionally. It might have fallen in my purse. I put my purse in. >> We located the uh the other earring on the floor. Do you guys want to pursue charges on the trespassing? on the Yeah. >> Okay. Do you guys want to pursue charges on the the one? >> She pleads with officers citing her age 80, her husband's illness, and forgetfulness. She asks to work at Target to make it right, but officers decline. >> Earring that was removed from the doc. >> Taylor. Okay. >> All right. My husband is 85 and I'm very forgetful. >> Yeah. I apologize for that. I mean, we've had children in here as young as 10 years old. >> I know. >> I don't I don't really discriminate when it comes to chocolate. People come in all shapes and sizes. >> I didn't do anything. >> What do you mean? You pulled it out of your purse. >> I didn't put it in there. It might have fallen in there, but I didn't put it. >> The beauty of >> I did drop it. >> Listen. Listen. The beauty of America is that there will be your time in court. That time, >> this is not a courtroom. No. What are you looking for? >> Can you please tell me what you're looking >> driver's license? >> They're getting the statement done right now. >> Believe me, >> they can still have brochure, but I can give them a case number. on the ground. >> No, it was right there in front of me. >> I was holding it half the time and I was I had it in the heart for a while. I didn't was not intentional. >> Charlie 223 to type. >> Really? I wouldn't do that. It wasn't even an expensive. That's why they didn't put it back >> because I'm allergic to that. >> It doesn't The price isn't rolling. >> What's my 1040? >> Can I do anything? >> No. >> Can you let me come to work here or something? I will. I used to be in sales. I used to be in the medical field now. It's not going to let you come work here. That's not >> But I didn't steal it. >> Thank you. >> This isn't the good old days where you worked off your actually now a kid. No 15year-old. >> I didn't ste you when I was younger. >> You're a grown card. >> Did you pay for that with a card? >> Yes. >> Do you want to return it? >> Do you want to return these items? >> Because they're not they're not going to >> Items are returned and receipts documented. She insists she did not mean to steal, but officers remain firm, noting her pattern of behavior and prior warnings. >> They're not going to take it up to jail. >> Which Which card did you use? >> I don't want to go to jail, please. >> We're not going to go back and forth. Which card did you use to pay for the items? >> The the Target card, I believe. >> This one? >> Yes. >> Okay. Is there a pin number to go along with that? >> Yes. >> Let's go do a return of the register. >> You going to take all >> Please don't do this. >> No, you don't. I watch you zoom to the side. >> I can use the when I lean on the part. Okay. >> Hi. >> Return. >> Okay. at all. >> Um, no. I'll go ahead and put the return receipt on that. >> All right, man. We're going to walk back. We're going back in the same room. >> Man, this is going back in your wallet. Okay. >> Yes. >> Just can't go to jail. I have that for protection. >> I do. >> We had a close friend up in New York and in the shopping center that was near our home. >> There was a knife slasher that was slashing. >> Officers reiterate that the trespass ban covers the entire Target property, including the parking lot. She claims she was told otherwise, but there is no evidence. on the need cars. >> Are you a able to um get the video? >> Yeah, >> we got you. >> Perfect. And uh it's all >> a receipt for the uh item. >> Yeah, >> for sure. You want it for just that one box, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, definitely. You guys do? >> Yeah. >> Is that package >> right there in that table? >> Sorry. [laughter] >> Yeah. I'll be back later. He didn't get the yellow. >> It's fine. We'll be back. >> Is there a approximate uh value of the earring on the witness? >> There will be. They're turning your receipt. I'll just wait. No problem. Matches what you guys have. >> Perfect. And I'm not allowed to come back no more. >> That's what you were told in 2021. >> Yes, I'm allowed >> that you're not allowed. >> That even means the parking lot in front of Target as well. Okay. >> I called and spoke to someone here. >> Okay. But we have no proof to we have no proof to confirm that. >> I didn't know. I don't know anything about that. I'm going to put handcuffs on you so you sit in this car right there. Officers place her in handcuffs and escort her to jail. Narration reveals she already has two pending theft cases in another county. Even small thefts carry serious consequences, no matter your age. Respect store bans and the law. Second chances don't erase past actions. But this is still not the worst case. Just wait until you see this next one. >> Okay, I CAN STAND BY THE CAR. I DON'T HAVE TO SIT IN NO CAR. >> Sit in the car. >> I don't have to get in the car. >> On March 28th, 2021, police were called to a CVS after an employee requested help with an intoxicated woman causing a disturbance. While she wasn't originally accused of shoplifting, the employee wanted her removed from the premises before things escalated any further. >> Man, I don't got none of this out. Baby, say to me, >> "What's going on?" >> Nothing. I just came here to buy my stuff, and I asked her what the stuff was, and she told me she didn't know. So, I was going to get back in the car. >> Okay. Well, >> I don't know, babe. You um What happened? >> Are you guys okay to drive? >> Oh, I'm I was drunk. I'm drunk, but I'm I'm drunk enough to drive, though. >> No. Well, I got my cousin coming to pick me up though. I can wait for my cousin to come pick me up. >> Yeah, that's fine. But you can't drive. Okay. >> Wait for my cousin to come pick me up then, baby. You can call whatever police. That's why we trying to tell people to call. >> So, have you been drinking, too? >> Can you drive? >> Do you have a driver's license? >> You can go ahead and actually trespass her cuz I do know her bag has stuff in it because they didn't come in. >> What started as a simple disturbance call quickly escalated into a suspected shoplifting case. If she had nothing to hide, she could have just walked away. But the moment she tried to bolt, it became clear she wasn't as innocent as she claimed. Safe to say she had something to hide after all. >> Okay, but this is my bag, sir. This is my bag. Listen, this is my bag. I gave her this. >> 16. >> Excuse me, sir. I gave her this. >> Sir, this is the only thing I gave her. That my bag is not is not hers. >> Okay, I'm just going to figure that out. >> Okay, but I'm going to secure you until that happen. >> Well, why are you trying to handcuff me? >> You are not under arrest. >> Okay, but what are you handcuffing me for? I I don't steal. I'm not stealing. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> But what are you handcuffing me for? I don't I don't I'm not stealing. I'm giving her the nails back. >> Stop fighting. >> I'm giving her the NAILS BACK. HEY, BABY. STOP BEING SO HOSTILE WITH ME. >> OKAY. WELL, stop fighting and put your hands. >> I ain't stealing. I I'm giving her her her nails back. >> Okay, you still over there. I appreciate it. I'm just securing this. >> Okay. Okay. I'm just giving her her nails back. They're going to nail. I had them up under my arms. You seen I didn't want them. >> Drop this stuff. Okay. >> Okay. Get it. The woman insisted she'd done nothing wrong, but if that were true, cooperation would have been the smarter move. By this point, even if she hadn't shoplifted, her aggressive behavior and resistance were enough to land her in serious trouble. Still, calming down was clearly the last thing on her mind. >> I'm going to help you. >> DO YOU HAVE THE I I can see it. >> Okay, I'm going to help you down. >> I can see it. But I'm telling you, SIR, WHEN I WALKED OUT, the nails right there is the one that beat up under my arms. That nail. Have a seat. >> I don't have up there. >> Okay, come here. Have a seat. >> I'm going to seat. I'm going to sit you in the car. >> No, I'mma sit right here. I sit right here. I sit. I sit. I sit. >> I'm going to sit. Well, don't grab me. I'm going to sit. >> Don't grab me. I'm going to sit. >> No, just sit in the car. >> Why do I have to sit in the car? I don't have to sit in no car. >> Okay. I CAN STAND BY THE CAR. I DON'T HAVE TO SIT IN NO CAR. >> Sit in the car. >> I don't have in the car. >> So, you just going to bust my lip? SO, YOU GOING TO BUST my lip? So, you busting my lip, though. You busting MY LIP. YOU BUSTING MY LIP. >> SIT in the car. AS YOU BUST MY LIP, I ain't do to you. >> Fed up with her attitude and refusal to cooperate, the officer gave her a light push into the squad car. Though the woman later claimed he busted her lip, body cam footage clearly showed the push was minimal, just enough to get her into the cruiser after repeated resistance. >> Thank you for being calm. >> Yes, sir. >> What's going on? >> Listen, we came in the store. Look for some nails. >> She had the nails up in her home. She must forgot cuz she's drunk. >> Okay. >> So, I'm saying she hand me. >> Okay. >> Do you have any of their merchandise? >> No, I don't. >> Okay. I got one female in the car screaming. >> Okay. >> It's a mess. All right. Is this your car? >> This? >> That's her car? >> Do you have a valid license? >> Yes, sir. I do. >> Are you able to drive? >> Yes, sir. >> Have you been drinking, too? >> Okay. I'm going to have you hang out here until I figure out what else is going on. Okay. All right. So, I make contact with them both. She's drunk. And as they're walking out, it beeps and the manager says, "I want them trespass because she just stole." So I'm like, "Okay." She's like, "Oh, I just stole this." It's like a little thing of nails. I'm like, "All right." So I got to put her in handcuffs to see if she's also got a bag over there. See if she's got anything else. She starts freaking out. So I ask you to set it up. So I'm going to figure out I just need to figure out if they want to prosecute what else they have. I don't really have much right now. I can push resisting if I want. But that's kind of what I got now. >> Actually, the officer misunderstood her story. The woman never admitted to stealing the nails she claimed the officer escorted her out before she had a chance to pay, which triggered the anti- theft alarm. So, if the officers don't find any unpaid items in her bag, there's still a chance she could beat the shoplifting charge. So, do you guys want to press charges? >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Yeah. >> You want to press charges for the theft? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, >> and she like >> Can you come out and see and tell me what is yours? >> Hey, sir. Where's her bag? >> Cuz you took it. Yeah, she told me. >> Yeah. Yeah. Where is it? >> Okay. I need that now. Ma'am, could we go through this real quick and see what's yours and what's >> Just tell me what's yours. All this is yours. >> I'm not I don't want to talk. >> This yours? >> Yeah. >> This is yours? >> Yes. Only over top. Yeah. >> Yours. [snorts] It's half done. Is that This might be hers. Oh, no. Never mind. I It felt white, so I guess it is. >> Chip gloves. Could you go through the rest of that? >> Looks like she won't be dodging that shoplifting charge after all. As for her partner, he got off easy. Officer showed some leniency, but had they chosen to press the issue, he could have easily been charged as an accomplice. >> Yes. I promise I didn't resist. >> Well, I mean, I was there, so you did. >> I resisted with you, sir. I was just telling you I I was telling you to please don't this is all you're doing cuz if you didn't resist me you wouldn't be going to jail cuz they don't even want to prosecute for the things you stole. >> Please get out. I promise I didn't resist. >> And what are you saying? You didn't do anything wrong cuz you had a whole bag of stuff you just stole from that place. >> He was knowing he was helping, but I didn't know. I >> It was Oh, yeah. Right. It It was your female bag on your shoulder and you didn't know. Come on. >> Okay. Can I please? >> Next time when they're trying to talk to you, don't fight cops. Yeah, you go to jail. >> The officer was right. The officer was right. Resisting only earns you a first class ticket to jail. By now, the woman had ditched her aggressive tone for incoherent blubbering, but it was far too late to talk her way out of the situation. The officer proceeded to search her before transporting her to jail. >> Can you please go call my friend if you b me out like? >> Yeah, I'll tell him to bond you out. >> I I want to tell him cuz I don't know if he's going to listen to you guys. >> Step in the vehicle, please. Quite frankly, I don't care. >> Sit down. >> Sit down. >> Our finding out is not our responsibility. >> Nope. Thank you so much. >> You know, we're you know, we're hiring if you don't want to have to keep going back and forth. >> She was later officially charged with resisting arrest. In court, she pled no contest and was sentenced to 60 days in jail. Resisting arrest only makes a bad situation worse. Stay calm, cooperate, and handle disputes in court, not on the street. >> So, tell me what happened yesterday with all that. >> Sir, sir, >> on July 2023, police were dispatched to a raw store after reports of a couple shoplifting. >> Uh, short version is I was just walking in just, you know, and I was actually by their car. Didn't they parked right where you parked? >> Okay. I saw them running out. did not identify myself or anything, but I drive by the car. Um, and he told me to get out of the [music] place and sent me. So, I did get a picture and [music] then everybody in the >> Okay. All right. And do we have video of them? We got I literally just Okay. Yeah. Come on through the climb. >> Sounds good. >> After receiving an explanation from the employee, the officer recorded the details about the suspects in their vehicle. The following day, the car was seen at a Safeway store. >> Police Department. Hey, I'm Corporal Ask Police Department. All right, come and chat with me real quick. >> Hey man, can you just have a seat in my bumper, please? Please turn around. Put your hands behind your back for me. Just being detained right now. >> What is he being detained for? >> Both of you guys are being detained right now. >> Me? >> What [music] did I do? >> Zuck, put your hands together. Hey, man. Put your hands together. Hey, fingers together. Palms together. I'll pick up your cigarette. I promise. [music] Drop your cigarette. palms together. Put the [ __ ] >> Hey, I I will tell you here in a sec. Put your palms together, sir. Don't [music] >> together. >> No, they are. Put your palms together. >> Put the [ __ ] thing on, bro. >> Hey, put your fingers up, man. >> I know. Your fingers. >> You still going [music] the I'm not you, bro. Get my palms together, bro. >> I didn't. That's all you have to >> Brendon. Stop it. [music] >> Brendon, it's going to be real quick. We'll let you know what's going on. Okay. >> And then we're going to be out of these pucks, right? >> We got to explain to you what's going on and why you're being detained. Okay. >> I didn't do anything. The officers responded quickly, but the male suspect, identified as Brandon, appeared visibly nervous and possibly uncooperative. If he was feeling anxious, staying silent might have been the wiser choice, though it seemed he had other plans in mind. >> I'm not nuts, man. Cuz uh >> you live all the way in Everett, D. >> I was dropping my kids off at camp yesterday, bro. >> The you mean, bro? >> The out of here. N that >> Hey, chill. You got meed up, bro. >> So, yesterday Yeah. >> A male batch of your kitchen. I didn't get my letter. Can't get my suit. >> Yeah. >> Got me mills rest my pony >> the out of here. >> Let me explain. >> Hey, I'm going to explain it all to you, but you got to let me explain to you. >> Can I get Can I get my leg? >> Yeah. >> I got to lie. >> Hey, I'm willing to work with you on this, but chill. Chill. >> Hey, I will explain everything to you, but you got to chill for me. Okay, Brandon. So, you're saying you had this vehicle yesterday. It wasn't in the city at all. Your car? >> No, yesterday. >> No, I was dropping my kids off at camp. >> Yes, it was in the city yesterday. >> The car was? >> Yes, because uh my friend who's in the store right now um came here to get groceries. >> Was he with your friend yesterday or was it just your friend in the car? >> It was just my friend in the car. >> Brandon appeared noticeably agitated and he was fortunate to be dealing with a patient police officer. However, from the beginning, his account of the car didn't align with his partner's version of events. one. So, let's go with you saying, "Hey, it's not him or it's not Brandon. It's not you." So, [music] who was it? >> My friend that's in the store. Probably she took way yesterday. >> He has She I can't >> 1 2 3. I'll take one here, please. >> I don't want um I'm not going down for something that she did. >> Yeah, she did. And And I'll tell you what. Well, he he's giving me a bunch of lip. I'm going to show you the proof that it was your vehicle. Okay. And you can tell me if I'm lying. How's that sound? Hey, is that your car with the around sticker and the same license plate right here? >> So, >> yeah. So, right now you guys are my theft suspects, right? Until I know otherwise. >> Well, she's in the store right now getting her medicine, but I don't want to be known that I told that it was if it was her, not me. >> Okay. >> She a big bigger galaf. >> The story about an unknown man who just so happens to match the male suspect's description helping the blonde friend shoplift seems a bit far-fetched. Still, the officers need to question the friend before drawing any conclusions at this point. >> Well, now you're detained because yesterday you had possession of the vehicle that's out there. That's your friend's car yesterday. >> I got possession of the fire. Oh, you know, like I've been on my deathbed, right? Like >> I mean, death bed or not, you matched the exact video footage of a theft that occurred at Ross yesterday in our city with that car and you talking to the loss prevention officer. I'm sure you remember it. So, I just want you to be honest and tell me what happened. >> Talking to the last event? >> Yeah. on your way out. I don't think you realize he was los prevention. [music] >> So tell me what happened yesterday with all that. >> Sir, seriously. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah, [ __ ] >> I honestly I'm very ashamed of right now. I don't want to let him say, >> but can I please at least get my sals cuz if you're going to take me at I at least can I >> Yeah, we'll work through that. But talk to me about yesterday. >> I just said I'm ashamed of what happened. I know you're ashamed. All right. What happened? So, what what happened to all the merchandise he stole from Ross yesterday? Go ahead. >> Is it >> Is it still in the car? >> The blonde female suspect appears unwell, which isn't surprising when faced with the consequences of one's actions. The officer, remaining patient and understanding, continues to question her calmly. >> You stole some like kids shoes and stuff. I get it. You probably got family. You're taking care of them. But where's that merchandise? Is it in a car or is it at home somewhere else? >> It's blown past our flight. Whatever we screening all good have forks they went to camp. >> Okay. See I these are things I need to know. Right. Right. I can understand people falling hard times. >> But it doesn't mean that it's true. Right. >> Right. That's right. You know and you know I appreciate that you're being honest with me now. The next thing I want you to be honest give me about is who was with >> and I really knew is hang. >> Yeah. Well, we'll go get them. But who is with you yesterday? Was it the male that's out there right now? Is it Was Brandon with you? >> Yeah. All the same. >> At this point, there's still a bit of mystery surrounding the blonde female suspect, but the bigger question is Brandon's brand's role [music] in all of this. Was he actually involved in the shoplifting? Or was he genuinely mistaken for someone else? What do you think? >> I don't even know him. My friend >> Okay. Was the Who was the gentleman with you yesterday? Was it the gentleman out in the car with you today? Yeah. Is that Yes. Yeah. Do you say yes to me? Scared to scare 0 for I'm scared right now. He feels sorry. >> But your honesty goes a long way with me right now. Right. It's the difference between me keeping you in jail or taking you to jail or criminally cighting you because you got medical issues, right? There were four kids of them. But I need your honesty about everything that happened yesterday. Okay. >> Cheers. >> So the gentleman Brandon guy with Bill, >> but he was with you yesterday >> and he was the male. He stole the items from the store. [music] Correct. Huh? >> By four. >> Okay. And you also stole items from the store? Yep. Given her cooperative attitude and medical issues, the blonde suspect will likely avoid jail time. Brandon, on the other hand, might not be as fortunate, especially if he keeps lying. After learning what's ahead for Brandon, his partner even offers a disclaimer to the officers. >> He's under arrest, too. My partner's in there with him, but she's advising that she along with Brandon were both in Ross today. >> So, >> Ross, >> yeah. here in Kirkland and they got stuff for the kids to go to camp and that's what they stole. >> Oh no. >> Clearly she and Brandon were both in on this yesterday. So clearly you're not the person I'm looking for. So I appreciate your honesty with me. Appreciate her honesty. I'm going to go talk to Brandon. But right now Brandon going to be under arrest for the theft as well. >> Of here and somewhere else. >> Of here. Did she Did you steal anything from here? >> No. I thought that's what we were in the parking lot from stealing from Safeway. They >> Well, yesterday your car is involved in a theft at Ross. Yeah, you didn't say that. You took safe way. >> I said safe way. I thought it was safe. >> Yeah, I told him yesterday. So, it sounds like they got for uh the kids sto camp. So, I'm going to go chat with him and then she unfortunately got all these medical stuff looks like. So, she might not be coming up with me, but we'll figure that out as well. Okay. She might have stuff. We might still take her in to get fingerprinted photographed, but release her today just because of her medical issues. >> Did he get released today, too? >> He lied to me. So, I'm going to go chat and give him a chance to be on. >> Okay. I'm going to tell you something right now. He like I told him, he does not have a good background of police being nice. Okay. Racial profiling, racism. Yes. [music] >> Well, but today he's already lied to me because he did commit a crime and he is the one who committed the crime in our city. So, he had his chance to be honest with me then about Right. So, >> yeah, but he doesn't need to go to jail either. He's he's out of he's on Suboxu. Okay. He's out of his meds. His appointment's tomorrow at 8:30 a.m. If we miss that, he's screwed. >> Well, we'll go chat and we'll see how honest he is with Brandon. It's understandable that Brandon may harbor resentment toward the police, especially if he's had negative experiences with them in the past. However, right now, he needs to focus and carefully think through his situation because if he continues to be hostile, it could very well land him in jail. >> A lengthy conversation with her and the store, right? The gal who was also involved in this theft yesterday, [music] right? And wasn't a vlog. >> What do you think she told me about the theft yesterday? [music] >> Okay. Oh, good. You better not talk about hours. >> Okay. Uh, if you're not going to be awesome to me and given this chance here, then today you're going to jail. >> Be honest with what [music] do >> about the theft yesterday? >> Say I broke the law so you can take me to jail. No, >> I already know you broke the law and say got me up. >> You got the wrong card. You leave me the law. Leave me out of it. >> Let's pay him out searching. Iron Brand, you're under arrest yesterday for theft. You okay? Cuz you committed theft yesterday here in our city. So, step out. Well, that's down there. You don't ed Okay, babe. Give me [music] my phone. I've been calling you. I don't mean the out. >> Both Brandon and the blonde woman were charged with petty theft. The woman was arrested and released due to her health and cooperation while Brandon stayed in jail overnight. When dealing with law enforcement, being honest and cooperative can lead to better outcomes. Lying or showing hostility only makes things worse. Think carefully and take responsibility for your actions. Come to the next case when shoplifters caught loading up you howl with $4,000 of stolen goods. >> On September 9th, 2024, Lasus's police were called to Walmart where a known shoplifter was in the store. Officer Thuvenel was on scene when the 26-year-old woman ripped the tags off a 49 dwa 98 pair of shoes. >> The whole time we were talking, we could hear it. >> That's probably why she got off. >> But I don't think she was like maybe. But >> you need a ticket. Damn. >> Deep breath. She knows she's about to be on a sprint in her new kicks. >> For real. She's going to be speed walking. >> No, she's she's going to try to play smart. So, she did last time. >> Employees note the tags seem freshly removed. Plan of action. Check her receipt. And if those sneakers aren't on it, she's in trouble. She's like, "I don't have it on my bag." >> I have it just bring her in here, ask to see her receipt, and then if the shoes aren't on there, then I'll ask her about the shoes. >> Do you know what door she came in? >> Uh, this side. >> Okay. >> Feel like she was looking into my soul right then. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, man. The first stop, huh? She was like just >> Are we blowing up? >> We're going to say these two for um chocolate. >> Yeah, >> she's buying a nice ass phone, but >> No, she's not. Okay. >> Yeah. Heaven showed me taking her or her her taking the shoes off. >> Or taking the tags off. >> She and her companion split. He wanders off. She heads to electronics. Surveillance stays locked in on the shoes. Staff agree they're stolen >> off the shoes. And then they're thinking this guy threw the shoes into the bathroom. So, okay. >> I'll bring them both in and just sight them both for the shoplifting unless she's okay. >> My unit still open. >> Yes. >> I've been watching TV on >> Been here for a minute. >> Did that guy get >> refused? >> I don't know. >> Not my chair. Not my problem. >> He had four. >> Those are for sure not the shoes you came in. They look pretty new. >> Yeah, she has the boots on. >> She still has the boots on. Yeah. >> See if she can go back to those T. >> So, the shoes are new, right? >> Yeah. She took off the train. >> Employees ask for her receipt and press her to identify which shoes she entered with. They start taking down her info while she squirms. >> Let's see. Oh, yeah. One solicious 11. >> I'll be with you. >> She better not be ass. >> Oh, yeah. Do you know that dude's name? No, >> we never seen him. >> See, I never seen that dude. So, she threw her whole dude. >> Yeah, I feel like I do cuz they they split and she went to another 913. >> Which one she went to? >> Ready, steady. >> She's told point blank cooperate and it's just a ticket. Resist and it's an arrest. Either way, Walmart plans to press charges for shoplifting and trespass. >> There we go. >> What's going on? Come over here, please. >> Come here, please. >> Can I help you? >> Come here, please. You, too. You need to follow my instructions. >> Sit down right here. >> You got a receipt? >> I'm going to change. >> Can I see your receipt, please? [snorts] Is that the only receipt for what you purchased today? >> All right. Where are the shoes you came in with? >> Okay. What's your name, girl? >> Say again. Is it >> staff explain probable cause, snap her photo for Walmart's system, and issue a trespass notice. They remind her, "Save your story for court." >> Would I be able to pay for them? I mean, >> what's your name? >> For you, I've just about an address for you. >> No, she that I do not know. I went outside to go get her ID. address. >> Look, I can write a ticket for this or I can just haul you to jail. So, it really depends on your level of cooperation with me right now. Where are your other shoes at? >> Did you hear your Miranda rightites? I'm not a social for you. >> All right. Do you have an ID with you? >> Can I see your ID? >> 575 61 82. >> 8222. Yes, sir. >> Person charges. >> Yay. >> And first person. >> Talk shifts to her belongings phone, glasses, and someone even ends up with a cut. Medical attention may be needed. Excuse. >> Excuse me. >> Yeah. >> Kick those shoes off for me. >> This is just a trespass card that I'm going to give them. You're not going to be allowed to come back into the store. >> Take those shoes off. >> I'm going to need to take a picture of you. Nobody's going to see it except for Walmart. >> Yep. Where it's going to go on Aurora, which is for anybody who steals. >> What is >> I just like it's going to be for anybody who steals. Somebody still sending the picture of you. We got to upload it so other people know. >> Can you show me where where did I do this last time? >> Why? Central >> last time. What did I take last time? >> I'm not going to go with you. >> Why? >> I'm explain to you. We're just going to take a picture of you so we can put it in our system. See it? Just one more. Okay. >> Take a picture of you. Okay. Nobody will see it other than Walmart. I'm done. I want to take a picture of you real quick. Well, I want to know like nobody's going to see it except >> I just want to see where where >> So, look, you have your day in court. We're not going to argue here. We have Ma'am, >> we have probable cause. Okay. So, we're going to issue. Yeah, we already have probable cause. Probable cause that you committed a crime. >> I committed >> receipt shown. She's escorted for processing. Meanwhile, her companion lucks out with a you're good to go. The background chatter fades as the incident closes. Take it to jail with you. I haven't had long day. Double double lock this real quick. Should be locked. [ __ ] What the hell? Just watch your back with that guy. >> I was doing Let this go. >> Are you charging on this sh on this guy? >> No, he didn't have a >> I'm [snorts] going to take your necklace off. I told you when we sat down that this was an arrestable offense. Listen to what I'm saying. >> This was an arrestable offense and it was going to depend on your level of cooperation whether or not you received a ticket or you went to jail. >> Okay. >> You chose the alternative. That's >> I took I took the shoes off. I was just asking a question. >> Come here. Do you have any pockets or anything? Yes. No. Maybe. Can I just give it to you guys? >> No. >> What's this? >> My arm. It's >> like an arm. >> Wrap around. >> Okay. >> You should have should have cut. >> It's an effective baby. I'll tell you. >> You want medical attention? >> Do you I think you need to be stitched up. >> You what? >> I think you need to be stitched up. [snorts] >> You can show the nurse at the jail then. >> All right. Do you want your phone and your glasses to go with you or do you want me to give them to this gentleman? >> Okay, we'll take them with us. You want your phone to go with you at least so you can call him when you want him to take the necklace and stuff too. >> Put it in your room. >> You want to take your phone? Yes or no? >> Put it on your phone where you >> I'll follow your ID. What's your birthday? >> Yeah. >> Can you bring me the receipt? >> Yeah. Yeah. In my car. >> As far as you go, sir. You're good to go for good. >> Thank you, guys. Yeah. You're not hurting your 115 7 central. >> She was charged with shoplifting under $250, resisting, evading, or obstructing an officer. She plead not guilty to the charges, and her next court date is November 5th, 2024. Stealing, even small items, always leads to bigger consequences than expected. Cooperation and honesty can mean the difference between a ticket and going to