Lately, Papoose has been moving like he's starring in his own Netflix drama about someone who's scared to walk away from a relationship, and Claressa Shields pretty much made it clear she believes he isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And people are saying she really needs a reality check because from their point of view, her career hasn't been getting the kind of attention everyone expected. Welcome back to the channel, Shade it's your boy Marcus Hale and thanks for stopping by. Some critics feel things have been standing still for her and they believe she has to understand that calling someone your husband while he's still legally married to someone else is always going to spark debate. That's why so many people keep [music] questioning those comments and wondering why she would use the word hubby when the marriage is still official on paper. They argue that marriage is still a serious commitment and a covenant before God. From that point of view, they see those comments as disrespectful and completely out of line. Exactly. And when she talks about how God is blessing her or opening doors for her, some people believe it's worth taking another look at the bigger picture. They point to the way things have unfolded for others and ask people to compare the results for themselves. Just look at Alicia Baumgardner. Look at everything that's happening around her right now. She's set to appear on the exciting show Special Forces and many fans see her as one of the biggest faces in women's boxing today. They look at her success and say she's making major moves while the spotlight keeps getting even brighter. Many people believe Alicia is on track to accomplish even bigger things across the sport and beyond. That's why the conversation quickly shifted back to Claressa calling Papoose her husband and it immediately got people talking. >> Claressa said she's willing to fight Shade Ali but she wants you on undercard. How do you feel about that? >> I could never be a undercard to a Claressa Shields. You hear me when I say that? Could never. She need to get in the gym. Shade is hungry. Shade will be fine. Next question. >> What's what's your final message to Clarissa? Next question. >> There's nothing funny about that, according to many critics. They believe those kinds of comments cross a line because in their view, a legal marriage is still a serious commitment. [music] Yes, people know Papoose and Remy Ma are no longer together as a couple, and many also believe Remy has moved on. But others argue that's not the point. They say the marriage is still legally in place, so using terms like hubby is naturally going to spark criticism and debate. People have made it clear they understand Remy may no longer want the relationship, and they say that's her choice. But they also argue that doesn't automatically make every situation look acceptable in the public eye. >> [music] >> Some online critics have claimed becoming friendly with someone's spouse and then later appearing in a relationship with that person's partner doesn't sit right with them. Whether people agree or disagree, that's been one of the They also point out that no divorce has been publicly finalized, which is why the discussion keeps coming back up. >> I'm a different woman and a different caliber. I come with everything, baby. Like, I'm I'm not like anybody. There's only one Alicia Baumgardner. You feel me? I am the standard. There's one of nine, okay? And that's just what that is. >> How difficult was >> A few days ago, while getting ready for her next fight on August 15th, Clarissa shared another post that grabbed everyone's attention. The upcoming bout is expected to be for a middleweight title, although plenty of fans have been debating the matchup. Some have questioned whether the fighters are on the same level, while others have brought up the opponent's experience and age. Exactly. But while training camp continues, it wasn't the workouts that had social media buzzing the loudest. [music] On X, Clarissa wrote that all she does is train hard, go home, and let her hubby, Papoose, massage her legs and back after training. That one word instantly lit up the comments. People flooded the replies saying things like, "Wait a second. Ma'am, [music] that's not your hubby." Others added, "Girl, do you mean Remy's husband?" And the debate took off from there. Clarissa responded by saying, "Nah, babe. He filed for divorce. Please leave us alone. Thank you." That reply only made the conversation even louder. A lot of people pushed back saying, "Leave you alone? You're the one putting your relationship all over social media." They argue that if personal updates are shared publicly, people are naturally going to react and give their opinions. That's been the biggest disagreement. Some people feel the relationship is being talked about so often that it's impossible to expect everyone to stay quiet. Others believe that once something is posted online, public discussion is almost guaranteed. >> Not her following me. Not her following me. >> me I showed her. >> See you later. Not not her following me. >> What? Make sure you get this. >> She she she she know what time it is. She know it. She knows it's the bomb time. >> Stop it. >> Yeah, you know. >> Stop >> Stop capping. >> Stop it. >> Stop capping for that. >> Many critics also say people sometimes want to make controversial choices without dealing with the reactions that come afterward. Then when the criticism starts rolling in, they believe the response quickly becomes people are just hating or leave me alone. That's the argument being made by many online commenters. According to those critics, they don't see anything positive about the way this situation has unfolded or how it's being discussed publicly. They believe the ongoing back and forth has only added more drama and kept the controversy alive. After Clarissa made that comment, another social media user jumped into the conversation [music] with a strong opinion. The person wrote, "He's not your hubby. He's still married. God did not give him to you. The same way you got him is the same way you're going to lose him. He ain't yours. Stop lying to yourself. That post quickly became another talking point as people continued debating the situation from every angle with opinions flying across social media. That's why some people say the criticism isn't coming out of nowhere. They point to Clarissa publicly calling Papoose her hubby, talking about wanting to have a baby with him, and making other comments about their future together while noting that he is still legally married based on public reports. Those statements have kept the conversation going across social media. >> [music] >> Critics have also taken issue with comments suggesting that God brought them together. Many people online strongly disagree with that idea, arguing that they don't believe God would lead someone into a relationship with a person who is still legally married. That's been one of the biggest points of debate surrounding the situation. One commentor even wrote, "He's mine. Don't put God in your mess." Another person responded by saying, "No, [music] this is your mess." The exchange quickly caught attention because it reflected the strong opinions people have been sharing online. "Exactly." Another reply pushed the discussion even further with one person saying, "It's not my mess, it's yours and you claim to believe in God." That comment gained attention as supporters and critics continued going back and forth in the replies. For many people following [music] the story, that's why the conversation keeps circling back to faith. They point out that Clarissa often speaks about God blessing her and guiding her, while others question whether her public statements match the values she talks about. [music] That's the opinion being expressed by some critics online. At the same time, many people of faith believe that God's goodness isn't something people earn through perfect [music] actions. They say his blessings come from his grace, while also believing that actions matter [music] and should reflect the values a person speaks about. Some commenters even reference [music] the Bible to explain their point of view, mentioning the passage in Matthew that says there are people who honor God with their words, but whose hearts are far from him. They argued that simply mentioning his name often isn't by itself what people focus [music] on. Instead, they believe actions and behavior are what many people pay the closest attention [music] to when judging a public figure's message. They believe God knows every [music] person's heart, every thought, and every intention. From that point of view, they argue that simply mentioning [music] his name isn't what matters most if someone's actions don't reflect the values they [music] claim to follow. According to those critics, it's not enough to speak about faith while also [music] being accused of making choices they see as hurtful or dishonest. They point to allegations about private messages and becoming involved with a married man as reasons they question those public statements. That's why they continue [music] challenging the way the situation has been presented. Some people have even asked, "What kind of God are you talking about?" They argue that the God they believe in represents love, [music] honesty, and accountability, and they don't think those values line up with the behavior they're criticizing. Exactly. >> [music] >> Others also argue they haven't seen any sign of repentance or acknowledgement that mistakes may have been made. [music] Instead, they believe everything has been presented as though nothing was ever wrong, and that's another reason the criticism hasn't slowed [music] down. >> The discussion also turned to a recent interview with Alicia Baumgardner. During an event, she was asked about past public disagreements involving Claressa Shields. Rather than getting pulled into a back-and-forth, Alicia kept her answer brief but memorable. When the interviewer continued asking whether she meant [music] consequences inside the ring or somewhere else, Alicia responded, [music] "Consequences are consequences, and if you read the Bible, you know what a consequence is." That answer quickly got people talking with many viewers offering different interpretations of what she meant and debating it all across social media. Some commentators [music] believe those ideas are playing out right now. They point to Alicia's recent opportunities and say her public profile has continued to grow. In their view, she's building more momentum with every new appearance and achievement. Many fans now describe Alicia as one of the biggest faces in women's boxing. Some people have also linked that [music] to past public tensions between her and Claressa Shields, arguing that the rivalry drew even more attention to both athletes. Supporters of Alicia say her reputation has continued to benefit from the way she has handled herself in the spotlight. According to those supporters, it's about more than talent or appearance. They believe character, professionalism, and how someone carries themselves all play a major role in shaping public opinion. Whether everyone agrees or not, that's the argument many fans have been making online. Meanwhile, Alicia's growing list of opportunities has become another major topic. Supporters point to her upcoming appearance on Special Forces, which is scheduled to air on Fox in September. They see that as a significant opportunity because the series is well-established and reaches a large national audience. Exactly. For many fans, that kind of television exposure is the type of mainstream recognition that can elevate an athlete's profile far beyond their sport. They view it as a major endorsement of Alicia's growing popularity. At the same time, some online commenters have compared that opportunity with Claressa's television appearances, arguing that the two projects create very different public impressions. That's simply how some people have framed the comparison as they debate each athlete's public image. Supporters of Alicia have even connected this back to her earlier comment about consequences. From their perspective, they believe difficult moments and public criticism can sometimes be turned into new opportunities. They argue that challenges don't always define a person. Instead, it's how someone responds that shapes what comes next. As a result, many of Alicia's fans believe her profile has only become stronger. They point to national television exposure, continued attention from the boxing world, and growing recognition outside the sport as signs that her career is reaching another level. Whether people agree with that assessment or not, it's become a major part of the ongoing conversation surrounding both fighters. A lot of people looked at everything that's happened and said the contrast couldn't be clear. They believe the conversation has shifted in a completely different direction for both athletes, and that's what has everyone paying attention. Some critics argue that Claressa has been involved in plenty of high-profile appearances, whether it's reality TV, other entertainment projects, or different public events. But they also say staying busy doesn't automatically mean you're moving forward in the way that matters most. In their view, there's a big difference between constant activity and long-term success. After more comments started circulating online, Claressa responded again, >> [music] >> and many people felt her replies were dismissive. Critics pointed to remarks like "Shut up" and other sharp responses, arguing that they only added more heat to an already controversial discussion instead of calming things down. According to those same critics, the exchange highlighted what they see as two very different public images. They believe Alicia has continued gaining recognition and opportunities, while Claressa has faced increasing scrutiny over her public responses and online interactions. Exactly. Some commentators also argued that when Alicia mentioned consequences, she presented her opinion in a calm and measured way. In contrast, they felt Claressa's response relied more on personal remarks than addressing the point directly. That's why many people in the comments said they would have preferred to see a thoughtful conversation instead of name-calling. They argued that responding with clear ideas and respectful [music] debate often leaves a stronger impression than trading insults, and that difference became another major talking point across social media. Some commentators believe the idea of consequences can work in positive ways, too. They point to Remy Ma and say she's been seeing new opportunities and plenty of support from fans. People have especially been talking about her performance of [music] "Put It On," saying they've watched it over and over because it continues getting attention. Exactly. Supporters also note that she's been staying active with live performances, making appearances alongside Fat Joe, traveling to places like Miami, and keeping her schedule full. From their perspective, she's continuing to build momentum while remaining visible in the music scene. At the same time, some online critics have turned their attention to Papoose. They pointed to a recent post where he talked about the difference between a regular verse and a legendary verse. Some commentators argue that while it's important to celebrate past accomplishments, [music] fans are also looking for fresh moments and new achievements that connect with what's happening today. Then the conversation shifted back to Claressa after she shared photos of herself in a recording studio. That immediately sparked speculation, with people wondering if she might be working on new music or another creative project. As always, the reactions were mixed and social media have plenty to say. Some critics argued that it looked like another attempt to keep up with people they believe are currently getting more public attention. They also claimed her career has lost momentum, while supporters would likely see things very differently. Either way, the debate continues every time she posts something new. Those same critics also suggested that her repeated reminders about being the greatest come from wanting to reinforce her confidence in the public eye. [music] That's their interpretation and it's become another topic people continue discussing online. [music] The relationship with Papoose also remains a major part of the conversation. Some social media users have even analyzed photos and public appearances claiming his body language looks distant or uncomfortable. Others disagree and say it's impossible to know what a relationship is really like based only on pictures. Still, those images have fueled even more discussion keeping the story alive across social media. Some viewers have even focused on the way Remy Ma and Papoose interact during public appearances, especially in a few short BET interviews. They claim her expression seems intense while others say that's simply people reading too much into a few short clips. Either way, those moments have definitely fueled even more debate. At the same time, some commenters have also analyzed Papoose's body language [music] arguing that he sometimes appears uncomfortable or distracted in certain photos and interviews. Of course, body language can be interpreted in many different ways, so those opinions remain just that, opinions. Still, fans continue breaking down every appearance and the speculation doesn't seem to be slowing down anytime soon. For many people following this story, one word keeps coming over and over again, consequences. That's the message some believe sums up everything that's happened and it's become one of the biggest talking points surrounding this entire situation. Now, it's your turn. What do you think about everything that's been happening? Drop your thoughts below because we want to hear your opinion. If you enjoyed this video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and share it with your friends. 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