I'm being kicked out of the STORE BECAUSE I'M WHITE. IT'S A BLACK PERSON'S WORD OVER A WHITE person's word. For all I know, you're going to rob my house. I don't know who you are. This looks like you are a bunch of thugs. >> I'm telling you, the guy I live with is going to be furious. He works He works in secretly for the FBI. >> It all started with a 911 disturbance call at a Kroger on June 6th, 2020. A woman, erratic in behavior and tangled in strange claims about her relationships, had staff and customers on edge, prompting police to step in. >> They're asking me to ask you to leave. >> And do you have any grounds for that? That's not legal. >> So they are banning you from the store. So you are going to leave. >> Well, can you explain a legal reason why? >> So >> no, you didn't. I want a legal reason, please. >> I don't have to explain anything to you. So, put your stuff back. >> You're illegal. >> Get away from me. >> This way. >> Get away from me. >> I'm calling the police on >> I am the police. >> No, you're not. >> You're not. >> So, you're going to stop right here. What is your name? >> I don't give I don't give um strangers my name. >> Stop. >> Is there another police? Can I >> What is your name? >> Can I please talk to another police? Wait a minute. What have I done wrong? >> Okay, let me explain to you. >> Have I stolen? Have I hit anybody? Have I done anything wrong? What? Okay. You going to let me talk and explain? >> I'm waiting. >> All right. Don't interrupt me again. >> Go. >> At this point, her delusion took full shape. She fixated on a legal reason, twisting the encounter into a battle of legitimacy. In her mind, the officer wasn't real. He was illegal, an impostor, someone she refused to recognize as law enforcement. >> You don't give me any type of orders, okay? So, don't inter interrupt me when I'm talking. Soreno. >> Yes. >> What is your name? >> I'm asking you what is the legal reason? >> So, they want you out of the store. >> Okay. But what is the legal criteria? >> What? Okay. Let me ask you this. What What have you been doing in here today? Reason that they want. >> So, the call that we got was you were in here causing a disturbance. No. >> Cursing people out. >> I didn't curse anything. >> Stuff it out. >> I never said a curse word. Can you put that on the video so I can see it? >> I don't know. You're going to you're going to have to ask them. >> I need concrete evidence and I'd like to talk to my lawyer, please. >> What is your name, ma'am? >> That's not I haven't done anything wrong. And you don't need to give anyone anybody your name cuz that's called the privacy act. The privacy act under the federal law is called obstruction. >> Privacy act. The privacy is if you have not committed a crime, you don't need to give any officer. You are the same level as me if I have. >> She clung to the so-called privacy act as a shield, insisting it freed her from giving her name. But here's the catch. No such law exists that exempts a suspect from identifying themselves during a police investigation. [music] >> If I haven't committed a crime, you cannot use brute force on somebody who has not committed a crime. I have not cursed. Can I see it on video? Can I please see some concrete evidence? Excuse me, but what crime have I committed to warrant you guys um coming in here like a army to shoot me or something? I'd like to know in legal language what crime I have committed. >> Disorderly conduct. All right. What is disorderly conduct? Please define it. And I'd like to see it on video. The disorderly conduct. So you have proof. It's their word over mine. They are citizens. I am a citizen. So we are equal. So I need a video camera to see what I have done. >> I want concrete evidence on their camera to see what I have done. You're choosing their word over my word. So I need it on a video camera to look at. >> Can you do the complaint? >> Yep. >> Can I see it on video? >> So what we got is a supervisor coming here. You can speak to the supervisor when they get the supervisor. >> He's on his way here now. >> Is he a police? >> Yes. >> Notice the stubbornness in her voice. It wasn't a plea for clarity. It was a power play. An authority digging its heels in to deny ground. What she was trying to do was manipulate the situation and twist the procedure in her favor, demanding proof and videos. >> Let me explain to you, ma'am. I've just explained it to you just minutes before. So, they are asking you to leave. They say you are causing a disturbance store. >> I'm going to get my lawyer. What's your name, please? >> My name is Officer Carter. >> Okay, Carter. And what is your name? Can I have your cards? Zimmerman. I'll remember. >> They want you banned from the store, >> right? And I'm going to talk to my lawyer and get you fired. So, don't touch me. You I didn't break any law. I have a right to defend myself under the Constitution, Freedom of Speech, Privacy Act. If I have not broken the law, you are equal to me. The only time a police can apprehend you broke the law. And if you don't have a video, let's go outside. If you don't have a video to prove to me that I broke a law, you are breaking the law because you are obstructing the Constitution of the United States of America. >> That's what you're doing. >> And many police have lost their badges that way. >> Okay. >> If you pay close attention, you'll see how this woman positioned herself above the law and what she called privacy is obstruction. willfully ignoring that under US stop and identify statutes, officers can demand ID when reasonable suspicion exists, and refusal can escalate to a misdemeanor. What followed next was a confrontation none of the [music] cops were ready for. Her behavior was so erratic that even bystanders took notice almost instantly. >> Tell me what >> She came and stood right here and I was walking towards her. Oh, I don't want you trapping me cuz you look like you got HBO with that. You got that mask on. Then she turned around and told another customer. No. Uhuh. And that's not the first time she done did that in here. Tell me everybody that wear mask has >> you plus a customer. And it's been done happened before. I >> So you're not providing your name? >> I haven't. First of all, you've got to provide me with the uh thing I've done wrong in legal terms. >> I told you disorderly conduct. >> All right. Disorderly conduct. I need to see the video of that disorderly conduct. in the store. So, you know what you've done. >> You're accusing me of cursing. So, can I please see it to see if I cursed? >> Because you're taking her word over mine, which is illegal because we are equal. We're both citizens. >> The woman she confronted recounted the suspect blocking her path, mocking and taunting with every gesture. >> Here's the thing. They want you banned from the store. Ma'am, >> who's they? Can I have the name of >> the management? Can I have his name, please? >> You're going to you're going to get the name. >> You're going to get a form. I want the name of the manager who's banning me so I can take it to my attorney. >> You will get that. >> And you will get a letter from my attorney, sir. >> What's your name? What's your name? >> And you will, too. >> That's fine. >> Because I have not I have done absolutely nothing. And that's called discrimination against white people. You are a racist. You are discriminating against a white person. How dare you? >> Okay. >> How dare you? >> How about you provide your ID, man? >> No, I will not. I will give it to him. I don't want to talk to you. You are racist. >> Okay. So, you're being racist by >> No, I am not. A racist is somebody that kicks somebody out of a store for no reason for just being white people. >> I I will talk to my lawyer about this. >> So, you you're causing disturbance right now >> because you are not letting me walk. >> You see what she's trying to do? She was trying to leverage self-defense to justify every action. Now, let's not forget that she was claiming protection for deeds [music] that were anything but lawful. You can't go badgering people around that haven't broken a law. Give me the law I've broken in in concrete language. >> Let me understand. >> Disorderly conduct. >> Let me understand something. >> I want to talk to him. Excuse me. He was talking. >> I have to talk to him. There's two people I'd rather talk to you >> cuz he was the first one here. >> I relate better to people of my own race. I relate better. They always hit me, push me, throw garbage in my yard, push me around, cheat me, lie to me, steal my money when I do stuff. I want to talk to someone. I relate to >> what happened next. What was next? >> I called I told my manager and he came up here. He was like, "What?" But then he went to help somebody else. And when I seen him go this way, I said, "You know what? I'm going to call the police and get her out of here." >> Can I talk to you? >> I don't really >> I can relate better to you. >> Her audacity revealed a mind ready to bend rules and exploit authority. In reality, less than 3% of self-defense claims are ever fully upheld, making her manipulation extreme. [music] telling me that he's not going to give me a legal explanation for why he's bullying me, asking for my ID. Under the Privacy Act, a police officer cannot ask for ID unless the person has committed a crime. I have not committed 122. >> It's between me and the manager. So, you need to give me the name of the manager here so my attorney can talk to them again. >> And I need the camera. I need concrete evidence on the camera showing what I have done wrong so they can my attorney can size it up and see whether or not that is a uh reason for the manager to kick me out. Because this grocery store also has to follow business law. They cannot arbitrarily kick people out for random reasons because they don't like the person's shoes. They don't like the person's outfit. You can't go doing that to people. If they don't like the way you dress, you can't kick them out of a store. I want to see it on camera. I want you to go look at it on camera. You're accusing me of something. I want you to see what you're accus >> She continued to press for names, video evidence, and managerial oversight, turning routine enforcement into a staged confrontation. >> This business has every right to >> This is hearsay. Without the camera, this is just hearsay. Hearsay is not legal. It's hearsay. Without the camera, I need to see the camera. And I want to prove to you I have not used any profanity. I'm very cautious about people with masks because they have been exposed to CO and I'm telling them to stay away from me six feet. Socially distance themselves from me over there. I said socially distanced themselves because they've been exposed to the CO. I don't want them around me. That's all I said. Go look at at at the camera. The people with the masks have a higher likelihood that they've been exposed to people. That's why they're paranoia with the mask. I don't want to be around those people. And when they come over to me like this close, I said, "Stay six feet away. Please stay away from me. Don't come over me when I use that checkout line." I told that woman, I said, "When you use that checkout lines, keep your distance from me. I don't want you near me." >> She weaponized hearsay, insisting only recorded proof can validate claims against her, using a legal technicality to challenge authority. Every word of hers exposed a psyche twisting [music] facts to assert dominance. In reality, under US law, hearsay carries [music] little weight, highlighting her audacious manipulation. >> When I went over to the pharmacy, I said, "This country is too liberal because I know a lot of people that wear the mask have that's why they wear the mask in order because they're doctors. It's a law. The doctors tell them that have the people that have lived in DC, they have to wear masks because they have weaker immune systems. I don't want people handling my stuff over at the pharmacy if they have a weaker immune system. That's just the way I am. That's I never used any profanity. I just said keep your distance. That's all I said. You can look at the video and check it for yourself. >> Well, the video is not going to get your what you're saying. It's not going to report. >> Well, then it's hearsay. Why are you bossing people around based on hearsay? >> Because she's black and I'm white. So, you believe a black person but not a white person with that. >> Yes, it does. Evidently, it does. >> So, this is a business. If they want you out of the store and they want you banned, they have the right. She fabricated a tale of racial bias, claiming she was ignored because she's white, as if the store itself nursed a personal vendetta against her. >> First of all, I'll tell you why. The manager of the store is not the highest level person that owns Kroger's in charge of the store. >> They may be. That's why I need his name so I can take it to my >> I told you you're going to get you his name. This is a shroud of legal a shroud of legality, but there has not been one legal basis as to why you need four police to kick me out of a store. What are my rights? Wait a minute. This is the store's rights. What are my rights? I want to know. >> Your rights are to leave the store. >> All right. Then why won't you let me leave? >> Because you're being banned. >> Fine. Let me leave because I need to get the manager's name so I can go call an attorney. I'm going to tell the four guys in my house who are going to ask for your name and call. He worked on the crime commission for 35 years. The guy I live with, he's going to call your boss and ask, "What the hell's going on? My guy I live with worked for the crime commission for 35 years in this town. He knows every single person in town." >> She blustered at everyone in the store, all in the name of her so-called boyfriend, flashing his crime commission credentials like a get out of jail free card. >> Okay. What is your first and last name? >> I don't give that because I have not committed a crime. It's private. Private >> says the ma'am. As of right now, you are trespassing right now. >> No, no, ma'am. You are >> trespassing. Wait, you have to warn somebody they're trespassing so they can leave and then you leave. >> That's all. You're breaking all the laws. >> Not that I know of. >> Hairay. Hearay. He doesn't like me. Get out of the store. Okay. Get out of the store. Why are you blocking me? >> Are you refusing to give your name? >> That isn't the question. >> No. No. I'm asking you right now. Are you >> Yes, I am. Take me in. Yeah. take arrest me for not giving my name because I want to have a word with my lawyer as to why four bully policemen come in here want personal information about me when I have committed no because you're going to get banned from the store right now >> right but you need personal NO I DON'T WANT TO give my name because it's private if they want to ban me from the store take a picture of me I will be out of here but they will be hearing from my lawyer they might be shutting down as far as I can tell >> for the officers the standoff was both baffling and absurd every demand was met with a mix of legal lectures and theatrical threats, turning a routine call into an unpredictable spectacle. >> Arbitrarily believing a black person over a white person. That's what this is about. I told a black person to socially distance themselves from me. And now, because I'm white, I'm being kicked out of the store cuz I'm white. >> I'm being kicked out of the store BECAUSE I'M WHITE. >> IT'S A BLACK PERSON'S WORD OVER A WHITE PERSON'S WORD. >> NO, I'm because that's illegal. What's your name? I don't give. >> Now you're being disorderly >> because I [laughter] should be because you're breaking the constitution. >> We're just trying to figure out what's going on. >> Well, let me go. That's what you can figure out. You just told me I'm trespassing. So, leave me alone. Five police for a person shopping. Where's our tax money going? And secondly, my my the guy I live with works for the worked 24 5 years on the crime commission. And then my argument is give me the camera so I can look at the reason they're banning me because that's concrete evidence. the legal argument. >> You called me a disturbance. >> All right. >> The manager stepped in. Yet, she twisted routine intervention into a spectacle, [music] framing enforcement as bullies. Statistics indicate that a significant portion of retail disputes ignite from customer complaints, escalating swiftly. And this clash was rapidly becoming one of the most talked about incidents. >> Customers that have been complaining about >> Can I have the names of the customers so I can tell my attorney? Okay, that's that could be the mafia because they don't like white people for all I know. >> Hello. That could be the mafia. I don't know. >> Ma'am, >> focus on me. I'm Sergeant Mustafa from here. >> Wait, can I have your name, please, in writing? >> Sure. >> Your name? >> I'll give you I'll give you that later, but you're going to listen to me right now. Okay. >> That's That's not polite language. >> That's fine. You're not being polite to these officers. So, here's the deal. Under Georgia law, when they ask for your name, you're supposed to provide it or you could be arrested. >> No. My boyfriend works for the CIA. I don't care who your boyfriend is. He tells you, "Go to jail. I want to go to jail. Bring me to jail right I want to talk to a magistrate. >> Oh, that's it. >> I want to talk to a magistrate. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> I want to talk to a magistrate. You do not have to um freaking give your name to somebody when you have not committed a crime. That is called the Privacy Act of the United States of America, and you are breaking the Constitution. You don't give your name when you don't break a law. >> She demanded the names of everyone involved, sparing none, while carefully shielding her own. But little did she know that under US law, the officers and manager were fully empowered under the shopkeeper privilege, authorized to confirm identities and address suspected misconduct, and thereby her defiance led to her arrest. >> For all I know, you're going to rob my house. I don't know who you are. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> I do not know who these men are. These are mafia. These are thugs. I have not broken any law. I have not done anything to anybody. And these guys are arresting me cuz I'm white and they are the mafia. Can you show me on your computer or in writing that you have to give a person a name if you haven't broken a law? >> You did break a law. >> I did not break a law. >> You were being disorderly inside that store. >> That's not a law. >> The man disorderly conduct. >> That's the stores of police. You're telling me the manager of the stores of police is his word over mine. >> Ma'am, here's the deal. >> Have you looked at a video? >> Ma'am, he wants to ban you from the store. That's his prerogative. That's his store. or if he wants to ban you, that's his prerogative. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, here's the deal. You can cooperate with us, but right now we ask you for your name multiple times. The reason is is we have to we have to have that on the sheet of paper cuz how are we going to identify? >> Most people in the US comply when officers demand their ID. Reports show over 97% do, but she stood apart insisting she had done nothing wrong. >> I understand. >> I am not joking. My boyfriend's he works in DC at the Watergate is one of his condos. He told me to come to Siana to get away from the area cuz that's where his assignment is and he is my he is my boyfriend. >> So here's what's going to happen. They're going to all it is is they're going to ban you from the store. It's really nothing. >> But there is no legal basis. Why are you protecting them and not my rights? >> Ma'am, he has the right to kick you out of the store and ban you under city. >> Five cops and I I was willing to leave. He wouldn't let me leave. I don't give my name. I'm sticking with my boyfriend. I believe in my boyfriend. He said, "You never give your name to a cop if you have not broken the law under the Privacy Act of the United States." And he knows every ordinance and every law of this area. >> Well, they don't want you on the property anymore. Now you're you're once you're off this area, you're off their property. >> You can't I'll even talk to my ex-husband. >> She dragged both her boyfriend and ex-husband into the dispute by leveraging their authority and connections to defy rules. She turned a routine store action [music] into a personal saga where her relationship shielded her from accountability. They'll say a grocery store cannot kick you out unless you do something illegal because you need food. You have to be able to buy food. That might No, they can't. My My ex-husband knows all the laws. Everyone knows the laws but the police. >> Just relax, man. >> I'm telling you. I'm furious cuz you're breaking my Don't touch me. Please. I'm going to You can't be walking around or else we'll put you in the back of the car. >> My boyfriend if you touch me. I am telling you the truth. He works for the CIA. He's higher than you. He will you, Anderson. I'm serious. Do not touch me. >> Ma'am, I don't want to hear threats made to officers. >> I'm It's figurative. It's >> diagnosed with anything. I need >> No, I'm not. But it's figurative. What I mean is he will have him fired for touching me. >> Okay. >> Why does he need cops? Can you let go? >> Can you let go? >> Was she willing to leave? >> All right. This very important. Was she willing to leave before you guys were asking her these questions? >> Was she willing to step outside? The story shifted when Sergeant Mustapa issued clear instructions and legal cues, noting that under US law, trespassing only occurs if someone stays on private property after being asked to leave, which might have offered her a way to escape arrest. >> She was refusing to give her name. >> That's it. She said she would leave, but Carter was >> I tried to leave, but he would not let me leave. In that case, >> I would I would just ban her and let her go because if she was willing to leave, it's not trespass. >> Yeah, she gave us she g she finally gave us her name. >> Now, if she gives false name, that's a whole different matter. >> No, I'm looking for my >> name. Do you have identification in your person? >> So, we can help. >> The reason is a city ordinance regarding a ban. >> Okay, I'll give you my real name. That was my sister's name. The reason being >> that's a crime in the city. It isn't a crime because you just rewrite it. >> Title 16, Crimes and Offenses, Chapter 10, Offense Against Public Administration, Article 2, Obstruction of Public Administration, >> but it doesn't say you have to name if you haven't committed. >> Giving false names, address, or birthday. >> She squandered the opening to avoid arrest by giving a false name, [music] which under US law is a crime punishable by up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. >> Where is your ID? >> Oh, let me get my own ID, please. No, no, no, no. I don't want you touching my money. You know what? I'm not >> I had money stolen by a cop in Mass Manasses, Virginia. >> You're going to watch me come in. >> I don't want cops. Stop touching my Just stop touching my money. >> Since there's no gun or I or anything in there like a >> ma'am, you're in handcuffs cuz you're under arrest for giving us a false name. >> This looks a little absurd to the public. I hate to tell you this, mister. This looks like you are a bunch of thugs in uniforms. That's what it looks like. A bunch of thugs. Get out of my wallet. And now you're robbing me. Help. THEY'RE ROBBING ME. HELP. THEY'RE ROBBING ME NOW. HE'S STEALING MY MONEY. THESE THUGS. >> PUT HER IN THE CAR. >> Give me my pocket. >> Notice how she deflected blame onto everyone around her, spinning a chaotic narrative to portray herself as the victim despite being caught in her own lies. Her frantic accusations reveal a psyche desperate to rewrite reality. >> On me. >> So, you're going to be sent a subpoena. So, when after the subpoena is sent towards then we'll go talk to a judge. But so you don't have to go to jail today. You're just we're going to take you home and release you. >> I keep getting kicked out of grocery stores or my money stolen from them at the cashier register. They don't put all my groceries in the bag. They steal them and then I get home and find out my groceries are missing because the black mafia keeps doing stuff to me. >> Blacks keep stealing my money. So I tell the lady at the cash register, "Stay away from me. Don't get near my stuff." Because they steal. Black people stare at me with a bilicose expression on their face like they want to go to war with me just walking down the street. British people with directed energy weapons, too. They have them. They bought them on the black. >> Whoa. Whoa. Directed energy weapons. >> Yeah, the Irish mafia has uh directed energy weapons. >> As you can see, she transformed routine frustrations into a labyrinth of imagined threats, blaming entire communities and secret plots for trivial losses. Her words exposed a mind steeped in paranoia, deflection, and self-justified grievance. [music] >> All right, so >> this is getting ridiculous. I want to talk to a judge. >> This is your ban form with the manager. >> Oh, yeah. Now I have to starve to death because the Irish mafia doesn't want me in their black store because the Irish blacks are paid by the white Irish to keep us British people out. >> Oh, Miss Party, we got to go. >> All right. >> Bye. >> I got another thing for you, too. It isn't illegal to say. I've never said this in the store. I call them when they pick on me, I call them low breeds. I call them low breeds. But out in public, I've called them whites and blacks. So that's that's why you're getting kicked out of store. >> I didn't say there. >> But it doesn't matter if you say low breed. >> I never said low breed in there. I said keep your social distance from me because I got robbed twice. I got robbed over the dollar store. I got robbed. I tell you, where's my gun? >> This woman, with her high decibel theatrics, was charged with disorderly conduct, typically punishable by fines or up to 6 months in jail. Investigation also revealed that she also gave a false name to law enforcement, a misdemeanor carrying similar penalties, and was permanently banned from Kroger. And that's a wrap on today's case. If you were hooked by the chaos and the unraveling truth, make sure to hit like, subscribe, and turn on notifications so you never miss the next breakdown.