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On October 22nd, 2024, Monroe County Sheriff's Office received complaints of a man towing a boat at 10 mph at a posted 55. An officer conducted a traffic stop where he made contact with a driver, a 38-year-old male named Nolan. Shameless plug. While we're waiting for Nolan to stop, please consider subscribing. It really helps our channel grow. We're going to try to gun it inside the hand and see where it come. Hello. Hi, I'm Deputy Lane with the sheriff's office. Yeah, how can I help you? Uh, so we got called to Sunshine Key about you and then on the way up there I saw you going 15 miles an hour and a hazard on, correct? Okay, that's not legal. You can't do that. Can't do what? You can't drive that slow under the speed limit. It's a safety hazard. It's a safety hazard for you to be on the road driving that slow under the speed limit. Correct. Do you have your driver's license on? Sir, I need to get to this landing. Can we get it off this? I work here. Okay, fantastic. Good for you. I need your driver's license. or what? Okay, get out of the car. Get out of the car. Unlock the car and get out now. Calm down. Get out of the car now. Calm down. I am. Come here. You You want to You want to try? Get out. Oh [ __ ] My truck. My truck. Put the truck into park. Yes, I am. Put it into park now. Put it in park now. Put it into park now. In code 41 resisting. I am not put out of the car. Turn around. Put your hands behind your back now. Put your hands behind your Put your hands behind. Stop pulling away from me. Stop pulling away from me. You're going to get tased. Stop pulling away from me. You're going to get tased. Stop. Stop. Stop pulling away from me. You're going to get tased. It's in your back right now. Okay. Stay right there. Okay. Well, he needs to listen to what I tell him to do. Listen. Did you see me? The glove box is even open. I was getting you it and I was asking you. It says to do not stop on shoulders. Okay. Can you adjust my Yep. Please understand. 23 code 51 10 other one. Please adjust the other way. We're risking that spinning it. Do you have anything on you that's going to stick me, poke me, hurt me? Uh, my pocket knife. Your pocketk knife. Uh, I'm good for now. If you if you can talk to her inside of the car. Why is she being rude? I'm not sure. Why is she being rude, too? Because I'm a law enforcement officer, and so is she. I have you in handcuff right now. Okay, but no need to be rude, is there? I got FWC with me as well. So, in the state of Florida, when you're told to identify yourself on a traffic stop by law enforcement, I did saying no when I say give me your driver's license is not complying. Say no. Okay. Can you have this on recording, please? Yes, it is on recording. Just like when I told you to step out of the car and you said no. I tried to open your door. You grabbed my hand and pushed me away. That's bad. Law enforcement. That's a felony. That's not exactly what I was doing. You grabbed my hand. That's felony. Oh my god. I was trying to put Hello. Is there anyone else inside the car or shoot? My children and our his service dog. Okay. My husband has a traumatic brain injury, so his ability to process information and respond effectively is impaired. I was going to try to see I think his wallet is here in the boat. I was going to grab it. He has a brain injury card. I am his legal caregiver in addition to being his spouse. We were volunteering here at the park and it just became stressful because he was Katie Bates. So the problem though is that when I tell someone to give me their ID and they say no, that's refusal to identify. Did he say no? He said no. And then he was No, he was not. And then when I tell him to open the door and he says no, that's again refusing an order from Hold on, I'm talking. That's refusal to ident to identify himself and refusal to exit the vehicle, which is an order from law enforcement officer. Furthermore, when I reach inside the car to unlock the door and he grabs my hand, that's felony battery on law enforcement. Fourth, when I do finally get the car door open and he pushes me away, that's bad around law enforcement. He cannot touch me. Okay, it I don't I don't The brain injury that sucks. I'm very sorry for you and your family. He cannot touch me. He cannot refuse orders that I give to him. This a legal lawful traffic stop. He's impeding the flow of traffic going 10 miles an hour on US1. You cannot do that. He is correct. It is a safety hazard to do that. That's why I pulled him over. He can't do that. Okay, I apologize. Like I said, his response to his ability to know what to say in stressful moments is impaired because of the brain injury. He literally has missing pieces of his brain. And so when giving quarters or whatever, his responses are often off. Like even when I'm asking him to do something or reminding him to brush his teeth even or things like that, even if he's planning to do it, his words don't come out the correct way all the time. So, I'm sure, you know, being in your career path, you've dealt with that like How old are the kids in the car? Uh, seven. Okay. Can you go back in the car and make sure they're okay? Yeah, absolutely. What are you doing back here? I was going to see if his wallet is in here. Yeah. Want me to grab his? Yes, please. If you could. Thank you. His wallet is not in there, unfortunately. And I don't see it on the boat. Our camper is here. If I need to go to the camper to get it. So, you don't know who he is yet? No. Do you have a social? Yeah. You know his social? Yeah. All right. What is it? Hey, dude. All right. All right. I'm going to open the door for a second to talk to you. But I don't want you to try to get out or do anything. Okay. Yes, sir. Is that your wife? Yes, sir. Look, I am very I was not trying to be combative. I have a slow thinking. She explain She explained that to me. Okay. All of a sudden, I realized I'm not an arc and I'm I wasn't trying to resist you. I was trying to let you but yet and then we get out. When it finally got out, I promise you I was not trying to resist. Like I understand why you got back in the truck. That was probably for the best since you have kids in the car. Thank So I know I' I've worked in the fire my whole life and I know exactly what y'all go through at that moment. I know exactly. Okay. When you see me trying to jump back in, I want to thank you the highest for not pulling that trigger when I jumped back in. I know when the adrenaline starts pumping. Oh my gosh. Yes. My adrenaline was pumping. So, so the main problem that I have though is you grab my hand and you push my arms away. You cannot do that to I didn't mean to push you away. I was trying to to assure you that here you have my hand, but let me reach with the other hand and but I I can't think of how to say it. My adrenaline is pumping and I'm just like, here's one, but let me Okay, I I really I swear to you, I' I've worked I want to join y'all so bad. I swear to you on God's hand. I put God all over my life ever since my accident. I swear to you, I was not trying to resist. I put my life in God's hand on that square. I assure you if there's any way I could prove that to you, I guarantee you I would. Okay. All right. No, I'm going to close the door real quick. Give me just one second. I'll come talk to you again. Yeah. Because this says this doesn't look 17 ft to me. Is this 17 ft? No, that's 24 at least. Yeah. And it comes back come back to something else. So, I had to run the bin or the head. I'm sorry. What was your name again? Katie. Katie. So, unfortunately, I do have to take him to jail because he grabbed me. Okay, I could look past the initial refusal to give me his ID at first and I didn't I didn't give him 20 chances to do it, but if I tell someone to give me their ID and they say no or what for, I understand what you're saying. He was reaching for the glove box, um I don't know that that's what he's looking for. If he's telling me no or what do you need my ID for to me that's that's a no. That's I'm not giving it to you. Okay. The the the problem though is that when I tried to get him out of the car, he grabbed my hand. He pushed my hands away from him and then I'm trying to put him in handcuffs and he's pulling and turning away from me. Because of that, I have to take him to jail. Is there any way you could I have to take him to jail. Is there any way you could have the mercy in you to view it like someone with autism? You know that an autistic person would do something similar when someone's grabbing them. It's like an instinctive response because their mental if his mental capacity is so diminished that he doesn't know not to put his hands on a police officer, he should not have a driver's license. Okay. So, either he is more mentally incapacitated than the state of whatever state his driver's license is out of knows, uh, or he's more intelligent than you're leading me to believe. Because either way, he's driving a car, so he's got to have at least like an 80 IQ to be able to drive a car. So, if he's got that, I'm not sure what he should probably know not to not to grab a police officer. I'm not sure what the testing was that they did. They they went through a a neuroscychologist, neuroscsychiatrist, full um driving test, like more than just the driving test that a teenager goes through to get their permit. And he was approved through that. But of course, in a class like that, it's not going to be a situation where an officer is trying to grab him out of the car. So, it's a a different thing to be in the moment and like I said the you know view it like a person with autism like their initial response is to be like someone's grabbing me. Oh my god, let go. So, is there any chance you could please have I just talked to my sergeant. My sergeant said to take him to jail because he touched me. And listen, at the same time, I understand your perspective, but you also have to understand his perspective, but also with this instance, if he goes to jail, you also have the ability to go to court and argue that side of it. I understand that. I understand that, ma'am. But we still have to do our job. The incident occurred. Also, I have another issue with the boat. The registration for the vessel isn't coming back with the same thing as a hint. So, I was wondering if I could see the paper for that. I can't. Yeah. So, the registration Did you run her? Yeah, I added this call. Okay, we're going to run this. It didn't come back to the same type of vessels in him. Catherine, here's your uh ID. Look, I I I understand. I have to take him to jail. Okay, Catherine. That's that ship is sailed. I have to take him. I I understand. you know, this this is hard. I don't I don't want to take someone to jail with a mental disability, but at the same time, if he's driving a car and I pull him over for a traffic violation, going 10 miles an hour in a 55 mph zone is a traffic violation. He can't do that. That That's why That's why I pulled him over. When I tell the driver of a vehicle on a traffic stop to give me his driver's license, he has to give it to me. If I tell him to step out of the If I tell someone to step out of the vehicle under Pennsylvania versus NIMS, they have to step out of the vehicle. But if they refuse, that is obstruction. I understand. I understand all of that. And I understand from your perspective, you have to protect yourself to get home to your own family and all of that. Trust me, I wish he didn't have a brain injury. I wish he didn't have those moments where he doesn't. I'm very sorry that your family has to deal with that, Catherine. But please, cuz this is something that's like you're basically putting me in jail, too. I'm not putting you in jail. You're still here. You can take the car and the boat, go back to your campsite. You can get him out tomorrow. We'll have first you you can look there there's ways in the court if he's actually got a brain injury you could see as Catherine are you able to are you able to drive this back to your campsite? Probably not. Okay. Cuz the other thing we'd have to do is call tow truck. Um I can probably get someone here in the park. One of our friends here. Yeah. This guy right here. I don't know if you know him, but why why was he going so slow? Because we drove from here, we were headed to Marathon to get gas in the boat. And as we were driving down the road, he realized that the trailer was like bouncing too much and he didn't feel safe driving it. So, he pulled over at that gas station. Go ahead. There's That's his items I was giving to you. He was pulled over at that gas station by the RV park and he just wanted to be able to use their marina real quick to scoot the boat further forward on the trailer. Um, and one person told us, you know, no, it's a liability reason to use it. So, he tried like kind of break checking the boat to scoot it forward. He tried cranking it with everything he could to get it forward and he felt nervous to get on the road with it. And then he went in and talked to the management and they were just trying to explain to him that it was liability. He said that he would be happy to pay as a guest in order to be able to use the boat ramp. And they were trying to, you know, tell him there were boat ramps a mile up one direction and a couple miles back the other direction. And so then they had called for an escort to bring him back here. and he was just stressed and flustered and just kind of decided to get on the road. Okay. And try to go slow coming back here to cuz when I was heading up there, I saw you guys. I don't you probably saw me pass you when you were heading south. And then when I pulled in there, he the manager there said that he was not very nice to them, that he flicked them off and that he was very rude. um he's he just got extremely stressed and worried about driving the boat and he was frustrated that he couldn't just use the ramp to scoop the boat forward and I tried apologizing to the management there and explaining you know that he has a brain injury so normal things that would stress anyone amplify with him or more stressful for him and um when we saw you pull off here we kind of thought maybe you were helping escort us the rest of the way to the road ramp. Um, which is why he didn't pull off initially and stopped to talk to you. Yeah. I just couldn't pull you guys over on US1 because the construction site and I he started that turn. So, I didn't want to try to stop him in the middle of the road when there was cars coming. So, I waited till you guys were in here to pull him over. It I I wouldn't have even given him a ticket. I was just going to tell him that he was driving slow and he can't drive that slow on US1, right? And all I needed was his driver's license. Is there any way you can like modify the report to where he's falling out of the vehicle and he grabbed you to brace himself, not grab I'm not going to I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to perjure myself for someone I don't know. I'm going to watch my body camera and handcar camera and I'm going to go word for word and action for action. When I write the report, I will document in there. How are you telling me that is a brain injury? Uh what was that caused by? Um a motor vehicle motorcycle accident. We were heading to dinner one night in a vehicle in the other direction took a lefthand turn in front of us. He actually wasn't supposed to even live and then they weren't sure if he was going to be paralyzed or what sort of function he was going to have. And he's made amazing progress. Um but there's still, you know, those deficits just like if you lost a limb, there's things that are difficult. He lost a a chunk of his brain. So, okay. Certain things are difficult. Am I able to give him um his anxiety medicine before he goes? They have all the medicine down there. As long as he knows the name of it, they'll be able to supply it to him. He's not going to know the names. Can I give you like a list or something? Can I write? Yeah, I can. Uh I can take a picture of it. Uh in the end, Nolan was transported to the county jail without issue. His case remains sealed, so we're unable to access the court records. If you like this video and want to see more like it, subscribe to Arrest Cam. 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