did you do it no but it's in my account when hackers hack into things they just don't put her money into your account and what if I don't sign this and you don't pay me P you know my whole family a deputy responded to a Bank of America in reference to a fraud in which a lone elderly woman Donna Welch had just found out that over $5,000 was stolen from several of her bank accounts what's going on I have this kid that comes to my house all the time to help me out with my computer and stuff and I do not belong to zel you don't have a zel account no okay he does mm how did the funds leave your account can you just kind of walk me through that I know you never gave him your bank information he knows a lot about me that's his name Spencer Spencer Trinkle yeah how much M did you lose uh so far it's coming out to $5,000 where do you know where Spencer lives no how do you know he used to be my cable guy you don't know anything about him well I've known him three four years now mean you gave him your bank account information no he he used to help me because I'm not what do you mean he used to help you um set things up answer it hey hey Spencer hello hey this is Deputy Harrison how are you hello is there yeah this is Deputy Harrison I'm talking to you right now you keep breaking up hello just looked at my thing I I know exactly what happened so like now I got to fix it for her okay where you at let's fix it I'm in the okay do you want to come out to Bank of America down here on Palm Coast sure I was can I talk to Donna real sure H what happened what do you mean what happened I see I see it in there now that you're showing like oh God so you're right it's all in my credit account so now I'm going to pay you all that back so I you went into my savings account my credit card account I'm doing hey Spencer I'm doing Spencer I'm doing a home equity loan so you're going to get all that back how far are you about 20 30 minutes rather 40 yeah give one sec yes I'll call you right back who's that it's Spencer oh answer it let me talk to him hey Spencer it's your Deputy Harrison hey I'm coming can I can I talk to B real quick though no no cuz I got to ask you a couple questions too like uh I got called here so no big deal I just want I just want to ask you get your side get herir out and do my thing yeah I'm not trying to waste my time I don't want to get in trouble I've been helping no right now nobody's in trouble I too no no when you get here you can talk to her that way we can just handle it in person all right if he keep keep calling we're not answering if I tell you where he works you're not going to believe it yep now he keeps calling me so where do you work for DCF yeah so I work with you guys all the time so I'm like I don't know what the hell's going on we'll figure it out we'll take care of it I'm not in trouble right like obvious no no dude I'm just I have to ask I had to do my eyes and cross my tee hey what's going on man all right can I talk to you over here real quick all right cool I met you before yeah yeah what's good good to see you so can you tell me a little bit about uh Donna yeah so I've known her for about 4 years now yeah um basically she has no family so I kind of like B with her she'll b sometimes she'll what does she like you'll find her she'll be passed out on the floor hit her head she's bleeding she has all these Cuts so I always check up on her I'll help her pick her up pick her up in the floor so I just feel badz she has no family M so how would the money go from her account to yours though that's why I'm confused but I see it I see it in there cuz I didn't look when now I see it right on there so it shows me in there so I'm like what the hell that's all there I'm like I know like if I wanted to do that I'd be doing it this whole time it' be great I'd be a rich like I've been helping her this whole time I don't want to scre her over okay all right $5,000 right the $5,000 yeah that's my name on there I see it now I didn't I didn't check my credit account and it's in there and how much funds were deposited from her to your Z that's what we're adding up right now it's like $3,000 and is that money still in your bank account it's not in there at all it goes through the medical bills and through credit whatever it is it's showing up on mine so so I'm going to have to pay her that okay which is fine that's what I'll have to do like I told her I'm going to recommend that she changes out her whole network to change all her stuff out let me just read you where at just so we can keep asking you questions yeah all right you have the right for me silent anything you say can will be against you what that's scary I don't like that well this is how we have law works we can't ask you questions and stuff without it you have the red terain silent you understand right yes all right we can ask you a couple questions yeah okay so you're receiving these funds you're receiving these funds from Don's account right yeah that we just found out and you have zel yes how long have you been with uh DCF 2 years two years this is my calling to help the kids and stuff that's why I like my D all right and then uh like this looks horrible I'm like what the freak you were telling uh Deputy katki earlier that you know you you guys are on the same network what do you mean by that like you know when you go into somebody's home there's a home network you got to log into their Wi-Fi her Wi-Fi so like if I'm at her house my phone connects to her Wi-Fi automatically what gets me nervous though like if somebody can get in there is she familiar with like how Electronics work like kind of sort of have you been teaching her yeah I have to try to help her like install stuff and do all that all right so uh you're you're free to go right now I'll be in touch with you but uh I probably have to get a search warrant for both stuff I'm be honest with you so the search warrant yeah we got to figure out who took your money what if we just drop it and I'll bite the bullet and just have to pay her back we have to do all that [ __ ] bite the bullet what do you mean like I'll just take the blame for it and just got to pay back did you do it no but it's in my account so obviously I mean just because it's in your account that doesn't make you a that doesn't make you you that doesn't mean you committed the crime all right I know but it's in my account so and it's the money is not there so I'm getting that doesn't mean you you did you do the did you do it or no no but I feel back for her we have to do a thorough investigation all right if that means we have to get a search warrant and search your guys' bank records and all your transaction history we got to do that all right I mean that's just that's the bottom line if do you want to pursue charges or not no okay we probably won't have to not going to do a search one if you don't want to pursue Char I got you okay here's your statement so just write down I feel like I should I'm going to pay you back so you don't have to fine well your is your he's a witness yeah he's a witness a witness to what but he said he'll pay me back you know I will I'm not a testing G anything that's civil if if he pays you back and you don't want to press charges that's on you and what if I if I don't sign this and you don't pay me P you know my whole family my little if he doesn't back right now and we're not you know whatever then that's a civil matter I would never I have all the times I helped you why would I decide let's screw Don now but I'm telling you I mean it would it would help the case if you do a statement and it would help the case if you uh I want to write something down I want to keep it on fire okay you don't want to press charges correct I don't want to press charges listen Spencer I'm detective cast there with the FL kind of Sheriff's Office Bank of America's obviously provided Donna with some statements that clearly show a bunch of zel transactions that were made to you and you've never seen this before you're saying the only one I saw was the other day she brought it to my attention and I was like I don't have the money so I gave her $200 cash I thought it was only 540 but I'm like there's obviously a shitload of them in there now I'm like I to buy the buet and I'll just pay you that money back so you seen money in there before what happened to the money so my money I have I can tell right from the gon that there's some weird [ __ ] going on it's for years Spencer this isn't a hacking isue this is I it really appears that you're able to get her information and you send yourself money into your account like I told her I was like I'll obviously I'll it's not about that right now okay it's not about that it's about that obviously you have some issues going on with your your family with with your brother or with your son having medical issues and maybe you at a financial hardship and you saw this opportunity did you go into account take money out of her account put it into your account nothing intentional have you ever done that no my can you go to your zel transactions yeah this don't look good I'm going to tell you no I know absolutely I'm like I'm not I'm like I'll literally whatever you got to do I I'll pay you whatever like I mean if it's if it's an accident then why would I mean there really no need to pay pay back or it went through my account well you saw it yesterday and I paid her for some of the back yeah but all those transactions happened before yesterday that's the only one that we saw on think is AEL spensor yeah but you got money influx into your account on multiple previous days yeah that's that's the one she showed me right but there's multiple not just one there's a multiple so you if you saw it yesterday you would have had a seeing all the other what's the account with the $20,000 mine yeah that's my how much I own my credit card like if I need money that's why we do a fundraiser I don't need to which is what we're doing now let me ask you this when we subpoena these records M nothing's ever going to come back to you where your IP addresses are used to transfer her money into your account as I'm saying it could be because I'm on her network CU I'm like I don't not no IP addressing or orice device I'm not sure how yeah guess so so I'll take like I said I'll pay her back that money it's not about paying back we're we're talking about a criminal aspect here not not just a uh we'll pay you back kind of cuz that money's gone no get Spencer and really like we're out here in the Sun and we just we kind of like want to be as honest as absolutely I never got in trouble my life based on the paperwork that we have yeah I'm saying overwhelmingly shows right you said that your your child needs healthare did you take the money from her not in what do you mean not intentional so tell me how you would have done it unintentionally I would want to do that any if I want say you wouldn't want to do it but how would you have done it unintentionally I would have asked her obviously if not I I understand what you're saying but that's not what happened money came out from her account to your account yeah okay that happened not unintentionally that was very intentional when hackers hack into things they just don't put her money into your how are you going to be able to make it right well we have a fundraiser so I take money from the fundraiser and send that to her so am I going to have like a record in now or wa she Char yeah I mean what you're looking at is is rant that I know that's what I'm saying I don't want that where does the fundraising money go into like Facebook the Facebook thing and it goes to my wife and it goes to your wife yeah you ever use your credit card no I don't even know but there shows it's on there too I think so obviously there's definitely something going on we are probably 100% sure MH that you did all the transactions on your own that in itself you know you got exploitation there's a bunch of crimes and stuff that we can hit so you know so with that being said she wants an answer yeah I wouldn't know him would do that at all that's why I'm like now I got I'm not trying to get myself in trouble for something like that well you're in trouble you're in trouble does that make sense yeah yeah you're in trouble you took over $5,000 from Don so where where is the money that goes to all our bills whose bills mine so with the money that you receive from Donna's account you've already paid bills with that yeah medical bills yeah for your son yeah did you use the credit card too nothing for no what is Dave's Incorporated there's a transaction for Dave Incorporated I'm not 100% I don't know what that is she doesn't know what that is I mean did you not think like this would affect her lifestyle based on yeah that's why like I said I her social security income yeah I think it was actually pretty good ad mission right there he said he spent the money that he KN we spent the money we'll give Donna all the information she doesn't want to see him go to jail because of the whole kids situation and stuff like that so Spencer do you have a letter that you wrote yeah I was going to notarize it where is that that's what I thought we were doing today I said whatever's on there add it up it's in my name and start back Spencer shows a newly scribbled IOU to the deputies to convince them he meant to pay so this is the deal you're a lucky person cuz she likes you I know I really am a good person well good people don't take $4,000 their friends or anything without asking that's not a good person she doesn't want to pursue charges at least today she doesn't want to see you right now but she thinks that you'll communicate with her and then you guys work out some sort of an agreement if that doesn't happen do you know what is going to happen absolutely what's going to happen I'm going to come arrest you yeah I'm going to get a warrant and then I'm going to come arrest for exploitation and Grant that that's going to put you in a lot more financial hardship when you don't have a job because you've been arrested for two fell and your child now you guys had to come out here we are too we are too unfortunately but when she calls us back in however long you don't pay her back yeah I'm not going to not pay her then that's where we're at all right I appreciate it all right Spencer thank you y thank you guys just two days later a deputy spoke with Donna on her front porch I'm thinking of Prosecuting he used my rewards money he went into my savings account mhm he went into my checking account and he went into my credit card I mean he is doing this when I was here so what would you like to do Donal I'm thinking of pro okay I feel bad you shouldn't you should not at all feel bad I feel really someone took advantage of you what's the feel bad about there's no point in feeling bad for someone who only cares about the money in your bank account you already lost job this is my calling the repercussions for committing a crime is not losing your job it's having criminal charges that's his fault for losing his job that's something he did to himself and I I bluntly asked him why did you do this to me and he goes because of F I go you could have asked me for some money you didn't have to steal it good afternoon this is Deputy W from FL County Sheriff's Office trying to reach Don W speaking there's more things than I'm finding that he took I had $176 in my bag and when I went to the Dollar Store and I opened my wallet I had a dollar in there and then he took my bed bath and be on credit card and I went to Target yesterday I got a credit card but it was missing Mr Trinkle Almost Got Away With The Fast One on Donna until one month after this incident he was served with the felony warrant and was forced to turn himself into jail on two charges including felony grand theft and felony identity theft of a person over 60 years old just hours later he was released on a $3,000 Bond despite having admitted to taking the money he pleed not guilty after being presented with with the prosecution's evidence he pled no contest to both charges the judge withheld adjudication and instead ordered him to pay restitution to Donna in the amount of $10.6 th000 and was sentenced to 8 years of probation with conditions including having no contact with the victim mandatory moral reconation therapy and no unsupervised work with elderly or disabled adults less than 2 years later he wrote a letter to the judge asking to Grant him early termination of his probation he complained about the fact that he had lost his job with the Department of Children and Families this is my calling and how difficult it has been to be exposed by the local news Outlet well Mr Trinkle you've now been exposed to YouTube congratulations the judge granted his request and is no longer on probation was Spencer justified in taking Donna's cash to help out 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