Show your hands out. Step out now. Step outside. Hands high in the air. >> Well, I was in there getting my hair done and I just heard the shots, so I fell on the ground. >> My name came up in the investigation. >> So, you're >> Well, what do you What do you think it's about? >> Investigating in addition to him almost getting hit is someone was shot and killed. We know that you're responsible for that. >> Police officers deal with crime every day, but what happens when they step into a scene where the violence hasn't stopped? Coming face-to-face with killers in the act. >> Show us your hands now. Don't do anything stupid. Stop where you are. Keep your hands up. >> Well, at least it >> And he said it was a mistake, so He also said to me So, That's why and then texted the kids. Door's open, she'll be And then >> These were the moments when cops discovered killers in the act. We begin [music] with a case where what was meant to be a birthday celebration turned into a horrific crime with the discovery of a killer couple. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> You too, ma'am. >> You too, ma'am. >> Do you know how I'm going to move? >> Someone's footprints and stuff, like someone was kicking at it or something. >> Cuz he's >> [music] >> You know, he had the footprint clear up here. >> Yeah. >> Right there. Small red marks on the back of the shirt. >> My brother had 15 people try to jump me. Man, I just ended up myself. >> On April 23rd, 2023, officers in Hocking County, Ohio received a 911 call about a party at a remote cabin that may have turned into something far more serious. A tragedy had unfolded. A person had been brutally murdered that night. What began as a celebration quickly turned into a race against time to find who could have been responsible. >> Hi. Sorry to bother you. >> That's all right. >> Um Sabrina? >> Yes. >> Where's she at? Do you know? >> I have no idea. I really don't. Um >> [sighs and gasps] >> I know she's She lives with her boyfriend, but they they've never let me have the address, so I couldn't give that to you. >> know what her boyfriend's name is? >> Isaac Pence. >> Isaac Pence? >> Uh-huh. >> How long How long has it been since Well, Hawking We're actually here on behalf of Hawking County. >> Okay. >> Cuz I guess there was some type of an argument or or fight or something happened down there. >> Yeah, my granddaughter just called me. My grandson went down there for his birthday, got a cabin. I don't know what's going on, but >> So, they they gave us a couple names and we got addresses, so we're just trying to come and locate him. >> doesn't live here. She has her mail sent here. That's why she has this address. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Uh but I really I I don't have an address for her or I'd give it to you. >> Okay. But she has lived with Isaac? >> Yes. Yes. >> All right. Well, I do apologize for bothering you, but thank you for the information. >> You try to make contact with them or >> I mean, you can go try knocking on the door. >> Uh we'll try to make contact and see if she knows where he is. >> All right, sounds good. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right, let's see what we got. >> I don't know if the dog is tied up or if there's one on the right side of the house. >> It's all right, buddy. >> With the evidence collected, officers identified two suspects, a couple, Isaac T. Pence and Sabra Flag. At this point, additional units were called in to prevent any chance of escape as officers believed they could be dealing with a pair capable of committing violent acts without hesitation. >> Isaac, this is the Fairfield County Sheriff's Office. You need to come out and talk with us. >> What's your side look like? >> Windows, [music] AC unit, bunch of boarded up windows. >> Who is it? >> Fairfield County Sheriff's Office. >> Hold on. I have The lock is stuck in it. >> Where's Isaac? >> I can go get him. >> Where's he at? >> Uh he's in bedroom. >> Yep. Send him out to talk to us, please. >> Okay. Come here, honey. I've got little kids. >> Okay, well >> He's sleeping. >> Send him out. 4184 female says she's going to send Isaac out. So, I'll be cover. Your contact or street. >> Give me Give me a >> He needs to come out now. >> He's He's coming. I had to wake him up. >> And what's the female's name? >> Sabra. >> She needs to come out as well. >> Oh, you want Sabra to come out? >> Yes, ma'am. But get them out. >> Tell Sabra to come out. You're going to come out or are you going to get scared? >> [snorts] >> So, male and a female's going to be coming out, hopefully. You can move up to cover. >> Hands up, Isaac. Why are you wearing a white shirt? >> All right. Keep your hands up, Isaac. >> Yep. Step out, does. Take a knee. Take a knee. Lay on your stomach. >> Oh my god. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> You too, ma'am. You too, ma'am. >> Do not move. >> I want to double-lock these. They're tightening up. >> Roll around Roll on your side. Roll on this side. Get your knees up underneath you. You're going to sit up on your Count to three. We're going to stand up. Ready? 1 2 3. >> All right. You can take him. >> Thank you. >> Do you have any weapons on you? Pocket knives? Anything like that? >> Um, no. I think I just have my phone in my uh right pocket. >> Same thing? Roll her on her side. >> The woman still inside the home identified herself as Isaac's mother, explaining that her son and his girlfriend had arrived earlier. She added that upon their arrival, she noticed something unusual. They seemed upset as if something had happened. >> Do you know what time about time they came? >> Uh, about 5:00. >> 5:00 this morning. Okay. Do you have any idea where they went before that? You don't know? All right. Are you Are you mom to >> mom. >> You're Isaac's mother. Okay. Okay. Um Is this Isaac's residence? >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. Did Isaac tell you anything when he came home? >> Uh, they were both uh just acting irate and mad about something. >> Mad about something? >> Uh >> Do they normally get in fights about stuff? Is it pretty typical? >> No, not really. It's usually pretty >> Pretty calm? Okay. >> [music] >> Did that seem kind of odd that they were getting into a fight? >> No, they weren't fighting. They were just mad with like >> Oh, mad about >> Yeah, just about what had happened. >> They weren't mad at each other. They were mad at a situation. Okay. >> with each other. They were >> Okay. You'll be detained for a while due to a case out of Hocking County. Um, it's being investigated right now. I think that happened in Hocking County. So, [music] we were told it was a high risk and everything had to keep, you know, everything has to be on a need-to-know basis. >> Okay. >> So, >> I I was like >> Yeah. Yeah, that's why that's why we're out here like this. Um, >> [music] >> if you wish to call Franklin or not Franklin, if you wish to call Hocking, you can and they'll be able to advise you more on it. But as of right now, we can't we can't disclose any information coming out of there, okay? >> All right. >> All right. So, I think with them being loaded up, I think we're going to get out of here, but you can go inside and get warm. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> Not a problem. >> While officers transported Isaac Pence and Sabra Flagg, they continued collecting information at the scene. A key witness's testimony indicated that a black car spotted at the crime scene that night had led them directly to this house. >> I don't see anything that jumps out at me. >> All right. Well, the only thing that I said no. I don't know what you're talking about. >> not going to open it. >> Yeah, cuz we need to preserve that. That's what I was saying. Like there's like someone's footprints and stuff. Like someone was in it or something. Cuz he's Yeah, hell, there's a footprint clear up here. >> Yeah, there's blood. >> Right there, right there. Yep, yep, right there. Oh, no. And check on the mirror. And right here. So, there is some blood on the car. Yeah, there's blood on the car. but he didn't look like he had any blood on him. All red marks on that back of the shirt. Somebody like kicked out of the car there's like there's blood on the car. >> Yeah, that's clearly anything here too. It's like on the side that's what there's a footprint stuff like someone was kicking as it was going by or something. >> There's blood all over the seat too. Hard to tell in it. >> Yeah, it is hard to tell. >> Yeah, cuz there's drink spilled over there. Blood on the door too. But like I said you could have come home with that. >> Wondering what Did something they said was the back glass already broken? >> So that's what one of our descriptors was but it looks [music] like somebody had they got in their car and somebody had started waylaying it. You can see all the blood here. You got blood here too Jenkins on the fender. >> All right. >> Blood here on the hood. Yeah, and like I said you got blood splatter here but you got blood splatter here. Up here. You see that? Blood up here. >> Yeah, I got this here. >> Okay, there. Here, here and there. Funny how I walked by at first or make that I didn't see anything. >> Officers began a preliminary inspection of the vehicle used by the suspects but several details immediately stood out. The shape of the damage on the passenger side window appeared consistent with an impact from someone's head and blood stains were found throughout the vehicle suggesting it may have been used in the commission of the crime. >> There's blood on the Blood on the hood, blood on the windshield, blood on the door side pocket, blood on the window, blood on the mirror. There's blood splatter everywhere. Um and that's all without opening it. Didn't open it, didn't touch it. >> All right. >> So, all that stuff's there, and um you can take It's hard for that cuz the glare, but we didn't want to open it. >> Are you taking it on This is this on the outside? >> Yeah, like I said, we didn't open it or nothing. I didn't want I didn't want to open it. >> No, that's fine. >> But, you know, like I said >> look good in the reflection. >> Well, it's about to be >> That's why I moved out to the side. I said, "Yeah, that's That's not even my good side." >> I don't know anything. I got on at 6:00 a.m. I was told to come down here. That's all I know. >> This is a dumb because I Of course, he had 15 people try to jump me. And it was her brother. Her brother had 15 people try to jump me. And I defended myself. That was what? >> Okay. >> It The same thing happened about two, three months ago with her mom. Her girlfriend having you into where everything else under her mom. It's just a bad family to try and get into. And I got two kids. I got no choice on that. Not having them today. Now, if the mom and the brother that want to try to call the cops on you Apparently, when you sick 15 people on somebody, you're not supposed to try and defend yourself. >> But, do you know why they're trying to detain her, too? >> For whatever I mean, just to interview her, I think, really. That's all I Oh, it's that really was just to interview you two. >> Cuz they tried to jump me, and I pulled out a knife. >> There you go. >> I went for the arm as much as I could. About two times, and I pulled back the knife away, and they left. I was like, "You're good. >> Got my >> Officers noted glaring inconsistencies [music] in Isaac's statements, some of which bordered on the absurd. The level of force used was inconsistent with a defensive reaction, instead appearing calculated, raising the possibility that the party had been used as a setup for the attack. >> Can you get him on the phone so he can stop talking? He told me how he stabbed him. And I'm not asking him. >> [laughter] >> So, I told you. >> He told us there was nothing on there when we were talking to him. We're good. >> I just keep saying I don't know or I don't know. >> That's what she was She was telling me. She's like, "I don't know." She's like, "I don't know what's what's going on." I said, "You're just being detained right now for investigative purposes in the county." I don't know nothing. I can't disclose with you what's going on because it's all happening. >> I literally keep saying all I know is we had to come out here and detain him so he can be interviewed. I'm done. So, I ain't it. >> She doesn't even know. She She's like, "We were there. We left. I don't know why Isaac did something or did something." I was like, >> He's saying that she got jumped by her brother. Or that he got jumped by her brother. That's what he keeps saying. I'm like, "He said I had to defend myself." At first he was like, He didn't say he stabbed him, but then he just said he stabbed him. And so, I stopped >> from the absurd. >> It's called >> We got a search warrant for the residence and the vehicles, uh just based upon what happened. So, >> A search warrant for the vehicles and the residence? >> Yes. >> Okay, what are we looking for? >> Evidence that I don't know why this [music] all happened today. So, >> [sighs] >> Okay-dokey. >> [music] >> So, what we're going to go We'll go in >> They were going to try breaking his car. His key should be [music] in here. >> Yeah, his keys, that would be fantastic. >> He was on a lanyard. Uh he had it with him. I It's with his evidence. >> Does he have another key to it? >> No, there was only one key. >> All right. Okay. >> We just have everybody just kind of hang out right in this area. We just got to make sure that there's no firearms, things like that, in the general vicinity. >> Uh my firearms are in my gun cabinet. >> Okay. With suspicions surrounding the weapon used in the killing of the victim, identified as Charles Starner, officers began a search inside the home. When the suspect's mother was questioned about the damage to the rear windows of the vehicle, she revealed a concerning detail. Isaac's anger was a constant issue, one that had the potential to turn destructive without warning. >> It's good to know. So, you want to search the whole house? >> Yeah, we've got a search warrant for the whole house. >> For what? >> And all of the vehicles out here. >> What are you searching for? >> Well, it's it's in regards to a homicide. [snorts] >> A homicide? So, what exactly >> We're looking for >> Guns? >> Any evidence pertains to it. I couldn't really tell you more of why he said that the Hawkins County detective will come and talk to you guys. >> Okay. >> And give you a little bit better idea. >> I'm Detective Sumner with the Hawkins County Sheriff's Office. Um I believe that the Springfield County detectives have informed you we're here for a search warrant um out of a homicide that took place in our county. I'm going to read you your statement of Miranda rights just because at this point in time you're not free to go. I do have a couple questions to ask of you, okay? Do you know where Isaac and Sabre were at last night? >> I have no clue. >> Okay. Um do you know what time they arrived back at the home? >> Uh they showed up at about 5:00 cuz they woke me up beating on the door. >> Did they say anything when they entered the home? Did you notice anything about their clothing or anything that seemed out of sorts? >> No, >> [laughter] >> I wasn't paying attention. I was sleeping. >> on their clothing. >> You know, they Isaac drinks just about every weekend. >> To the point of intoxication? >> Sometimes. >> Okay. As a the condition of the vehicle outside, have you seen it? >> Oh, [music] yeah. >> Is it >> Well, not today. I haven't here yesterday, but >> Okay. Is it always missing Has it been missing that back window for some time? >> For about 2 weeks. >> Like a couple weeks? >> Yeah. >> And what happened with that? >> Uh he was trying to pull a girl out of a a ditch at uh Sabre's friend's house or something. >> Someone Sabre knew. >> [music] >> And he accidentally backed his car into her car and he got mad and punched the back glass. >> When he came in tonight, did you notice any blood or anything on his clothing, either one of their clothing? >> No, wasn't paying attention. That's >> Is he known to carry any weapons on him? Does he have access to weapons? Does he have a gun registered to his name? >> No, the only The only guns in the whole house are my guns and they're locked. >> At this point, officers sought more information about whether Isaac had access to any weapons within the family. According to the autopsy, Charles had stabbed multiple times, which led officers to question where the weapon might be. >> Go through those to make sure they're all there. >> Uh he can't get in there, but now I I haven't probably had them in my gun safe for a over a year, year and a half. >> Okay. >> But I don't have very many guns. I have two uh old .303s, which are uh like military rifles. >> Mhm. >> And then I think there's a there's a BB gun in there. And a over under .410 .22 and I think that's all that's in there. >> Okay. Um how about like does he carry a pocket knife on him regularly or a knife of any type? Does he have any type of hunting knives? >> Um he has a couple uh like pocket knives. >> Ones you like open with your thumb? >> Folding knives? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Like he would use at work [music] or just whatever. >> Okay. So, I'm sure they have explained to you, but we have a search warrant. We're looking for a weapon at this point. Um there was a some type of altercation that took place. They were out at a cabin in Hocking County. Um during that altercation, a gentleman was stabbed multiple times. Um he has passed as of this morning. They both were transported back to Hocking County. they're going to be held um in the regional jail and then they will have an arraignment and likely both face charges. >> What happened? >> A heavy pill to swallow first thing in the morning, you don't expect to be waking up like this and you certainly don't expect to get that kind of news. That's why we're kind of trying to put a timeline together, piece everything, see where he was at, where he went when he left the scene because we have about 11 witnesses that say they fled together. And we're trying to kind of develop a timeline at this point see what happened, where they went, who knows what, those things. So the inventory, we're going to first do the search warrant on the car, take full inventory. Like I said, we're looking for the weapon used at this point and then they will likely come into the home to serve search. >> Officers went to the home of a young resident identified as a friend of Isaac. There the witness stated that Isaac had arrived unexpectedly. According to him, Isaac appeared nervous and gave few details but admitted to having seriously hurt someone during a fight. A crucial piece of evidence that officers needed to confirm the couple's involvement in the >> So what's going on? >> So my friend showed up to my house at like 3:00 in the morning in the morning. >> Who's your friend? >> Isaac Pence. >> Pence? >> Yeah, I didn't hear about the news that it actually happened until this morning. My friend called me said he was at the hospital and he was here, said that he got jumped at a party and he had to stab someone. And he was freaking out and I was like you need to leave and call the cops cuz I don't want it here and he threw the knife that way. I have one camera and there's also one in my drawer but I didn't touch them. I was going to bed. I don't know >> Been across the street somewhere? >> No, he was standing right here and he threw it. >> Show me about like where you're thinking. >> I'm thinking either >> Where's the one that you're seeing, that red one? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Sorry about my dog. >> No, no, it's perfectly fine. I'm used to doggies. Where do you think he was standing, like in this vicinity? >> Right here. >> And uh >> I threw it from here. >> And I heard it either these bushes or up there, possibly sticks. >> But you don't think he threw it and then just threw it like this? >> No. >> So you saw him toss this one on camera? >> Toss this one. He was in His car was about right here and he threw it down, right? >> And then this other one you say somewhere over there? >> Right over here, yeah. I didn't want to try to look for it. >> I see footprints. Did you happen to walk through there? >> over there. >> And you didn't see anything? >> I just looked by the bushes. >> Okay. All right, buddy. Um so what I'll have you do is uh just fill out a quick statement on a sheet of paper on what happened. And um then uh we will if you're fine, we will uh just have you pull the video and then we can send it out to an email, okay? But you don't have to do that right now. I'll just We'll come over here and I'll get you a statement form. Okay, so this looks like another detective here. And um what since he's here >> be alone. So yeah. >> What's that? >> In the end, on August 26th, 2024, Isaac Pence was charged with murder, two counts of felonious assault, obstruction of [music] justice, and tampering with evidence and was sentenced to 18 years to life in prison. Meanwhile, Sabre Flag was charged with a fifth-degree felony. As the investigation unfolded, a third suspect was identified, Bryce England, [music] who was arrested for misconduct at the scene of an emergency and later released on bail. Next, when a call leads officers to a disturbing scene involving a suspect who refused to accept the end of a marriage that had lasted for decades. >> What's going on? >> I just got my wife inside and she's yelling at me and we were arguing. >> And what happened after that? >> I don't know. That's what was going on. >> What did he say to you? >> I I told my wife >> On October 2nd, 2025, officers were dispatched to an emergency 911 call after a woman reported that her friend had been seriously injured inside a car following a confrontation with her husband who refused to accept the end of their decades-long marriage. What she didn't realize was that the man she once trusted had been hiding something far more dangerous until that mask finally slipped. >> Hi. Just so you know, I got a body cam. What's going on? What do you mean you just your wife? Okay. What happened? Can you come up here for me? Okay. Do you live back here? Do you live here? >> No, no. Uh lady that walked down here with me does. >> Okay. So, who is that lady? What do you have all over you? Okay. Let's step over here, okay? She's down there in the car. Okay. What happened today? What do you mean a long-term thing? >> We're getting a divorce. >> Okay. What's her name? She lives with you on Holly Brook? >> We were she was in the process of moving in. >> Okay. Okay. >> She She was in the hospital. And she called a lawyer. >> And she what? >> She had had a severe wreck. >> Okay. >> And she was in the hospital in Chicago. >> Okay. >> But she's been She's been back about uh >> 5-10-5 I'm out. >> 2 months or so. I can't remember the date. >> Okay. >> The suspect cooperated with the investigation without hesitation. His simple answers raised doubts about whether the crime could have been premeditated, especially since that route was not common for the couple, or whether it was simply a coincidence that escalated from an argument into a tragic outcome. >> So, what happened today? Why were you down here? >> Uh she's been staying with the lady you talked to here. >> Okay. >> They're home with her. >> Okay, she's been staying down here? >> Uh-huh. >> Okay. And what's that lady's name? Okay. Can I pat you down real quick and make sure you don't have any Do you have a knife on you still? Don't Don't touch anything. Do you have a knife on you still? >> No, I don't. >> Okay. Where is the knife at? Just keep your arms up for me, okay? >> I'm not going to >> No, every I don't want to get it all over me. So, how did Were you driving the car? Okay. So, you drove down here today? >> Yes, I was coming to >> Okay. So, how did it escalate to where we are right now? >> It's It's always been escalating, it seems like. >> Okay. >> 5-10-5 >> But what happened here? >> She started yelling at me, and we were arguing. She tried to scratch me, I guess. I don't know. >> Okay. >> I just lost >> Okay, and what happened after that? >> I just went with the knife. >> Okay. >> The one I had in the car. >> Okay. So, you came to pick her up today? >> Yes, we were going to the to set you up. >> So, you guys got into an argument as you were leaving and she tried to scratch you? >> Well, she yes. >> I didn't know I'd be out helping me. >> She didn't scratch you? >> She tried to. >> Okay. Okay. And then you grabbed the knife that was in the car? >> I did. >> And you cut her throat? >> I I hit her first. And then I got to the knife. >> Okay. Can I ask [music] why it escalated so quickly? Like >> It's It's been going on, ma'am, for longer than I can remember. >> Okay. >> With information about the couple's divorce, officers sought further details on whether this could have been the motive for the crime, taking a calculated approach to understand the suspect's reaction. >> So, how long have you been going through the divorce process? >> We actually are just beginning the divorce process. >> Okay. What would you like here? >> What's your name, sir? Uh the knife in question, it sounds like we don't know. >> He does not have it on him. >> Okay. >> Have him down there stepping on him. >> Uh here's what we're going to do. >> Go ahead. >> Uh let's uh walk up to one of these cars. You patted me down before, but this is Detective I'm going to have him just make sure you don't have that knife on you right now. Okay? Do you have anything on you that could hurt me? You're okay? >> No, I don't. >> Where did you last see that knife? >> It was in the car. >> In the car. Okay. If you're okay with it, will you take him go with him to the TV and then I was going to just start on >> Uh-huh. >> If he If he uh fits down here. Stay with >> Oh, [ __ ] >> Let's go up to the >> We follow them. Ambulance to LS 1. >> Uh >> Have them follow ambulance to LS 1. >> Yeah. Will you follow that ambulance and stay with the victim for me? >> I >> We're going to LS 1. >> Yeah, that's fine. You can go. >> Yep, I'm good with it. >> Following but we'll have him go up there. >> Yep. >> That is what we were provided, yes. >> All right, James. Go ahead and have a seat for me. >> It might be easier if you put your butt down first and then kind of slide in. >> Are you following the ambulance? >> Yeah, I'm going to LS 1. >> I'm going to pull this down and buckle it. >> Okay. >> I don't know. I know I'll be in route to LS 1. >> And you just sit tight. Officer Newman's going to take you down to the police department and I'll meet you there, okay? >> I'm good. >> At this point, investigators returned to the victim's friend who had previously seen the suspect wandering aimlessly along a dirt road. Her account reflected distress as she described feeling helpless, unable to assist her friend in time while the situation was still unfolding. >> She is his friend. >> Was she leaving your house? >> They were involved leaving together. >> They were leaving your house together? >> Yes, together. And they got this far and I don't know what happened. >> He said, "I just couldn't take it anymore." He just snapped. He said, "I couldn't take it anymore." and >> Okay. >> I I don't know. My My body cams on. Okay. >> Um >> And so, he calls you. Can I see that phone call? >> No, he didn't call me. >> I I'm That's my car right there. I take the dog for a walk. >> You just happened to come down here. >> to come down here and I'm like, "Holy crap, what happened?" >> All right. Okay. And was he in the When you came down here, what did you see? >> back to our house. >> He was walking and when you saw her, was this where she was at? >> Yes. >> Okay. You She was already on the ground? >> Already on the ground. Non-responsive. >> Okay. And he was walking back up to you? >> Yes. And he said to you >> I I killed my wife. >> Killed your wife. Okay. >> Did you know him? >> Yeah, I I know Jim. >> What's your relationship? >> He's my >> Okay. Is he married to her? Let's step over here. >> the process of a divorce. >> Okay. >> And Oh my >> And they >> He's out there. >> That's okay. >> Okay. >> I can now. >> Yep. >> So they came I'll just ask you some similar questions since I wasn't here for this call. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. And you're with him? >> Yeah, it's that's done. >> Okay. And they came over this morning? >> Uh she's staying with me. She's been here for a week. >> I see. Okay. >> And he came over this morning. They were going down to the bank to settle some finances in in pursuit of the divorce. >> So was he was she expecting him to come over this morning? >> Yes, absolutely. >> Okay. >> And he honked. I I was on the deck with her. She She said, "I'll see you after the thing." I okay. >> Okay. >> And so I I I thought everything was fine. I was just going to take my dog for a walk. He was walking back towards our house with on his shirt and I could didn't see then, but I said, "Jim, what's happened?" And he said, "I just killed my wife. I couldn't take it anymore." >> The witness's statement provided new details about the couple's routine in recent days, including moments when the victim had reported via a phone call seeking help after a possible assault. >> Do you know him to have any kind of history like with mental illness at all? >> No. >> Okay. >> However, he's 94. >> Okay. >> Uh >> He's ever had like dementia, Alzheimer's, anything that you're aware of? >> No. Probably some dementia. Age-related dementia, I would say. >> Okay. Okay. >> But never violent that I have ever seen. >> Oh, okay. >> Except I will say this. They had an argument about uh That's why she ended up with me. She says that he hit her. >> Okay. >> When they were at Hollybrook. And so she called me and said, "Will you come and get me? I can't I can't live with somebody that's going to hit me." Now, I have no proof that he did that. >> I don't want >> And he says he didn't, of course. >> How long ago was that? >> A week ago. >> Okay. >> She's been with me a week. >> Okay. So, how when did he originally come to your house today? When did he originally get here? >> I got home at 10:00 from my appointment. He probably came at 10:15. >> Okay. And then when you came to or when he came back down the aisle or the driveway here this is where he was walking. Okay. >> Yeah. She said he was on foot walking back to her house. >> going back to my house. Do we know how she ended up out of the car? >> No. She was like that when I came up on it. I'm assuming she was trying to get away from him, but that's only my assumption. I don't >> What did he say to you? >> I said, "Jim, what happened?" I I didn't see her at the time. And I said, "What happened?" And he said, "I just killed my wife." >> Did he say something like he said he couldn't take it anymore? >> take it anymore. I said, "Couldn't take what anymore? Ready up?" And then he said, "I just killed her. That's it." >> Did he say anything about stabbing? >> No. Yeah, then later he said I said, "So, did you hit her? What did What did you hit her with?" He said, "No, I a knife. I stabbed her." He stabbed her. >> Did he say he was angry or what? >> No. >> At this point, even his advanced age did not prevent him from committing the crime, and he was subsequently taken to the police station. >> So, he's 94 and she's 80? >> Yes. They've been married 39 years. >> Did he not go to the headquarters? >> I did not see him when he came. He honked, and she left. Came around and and left it. So, I have no idea what kind of frame of mind he was in. I I don't >> not like he was up visiting with you guys. He was just in the vehicle when she came out. But she was expecting to go with him. >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. >> Mr. I'm going to ask you two questions, all right? >> Sure. >> Um do you have any medical problems? >> Um, nothing I guess real serious for my age. >> Do you have like any heart problems or diabetic, you have to lap epileptic? Memory problems or anything or >> Uh, I've got memory problems. >> memory problems? You have like onset of dementia a little bit or anything or >> Uh, I assume that's >> You assume that's what's like happening? Okay. Okay. Uh, do you don't need to go to the hospital for any any injuries or anything? >> No. >> I got some problem trying to lock cuz I'm assuming you can't You can hear me quite well, can't you? >> Well, >> Or do you have a loss of hearing? You have a loss of hearing? >> I lost one of my hearing aids. So, >> Okay. Well, then I'll keep talking a little bit louder. Do you have any mental health problems? >> No, I don't think so. >> Are you under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the moment? >> No. [music] >> No, okay. All right, I'm going to unbuckle you right here, okay? >> Sure. >> Now, have you come on out with me. Come on out, my man. >> In the end, the suspect was charged with first degree murder. However, after 30 days in prison, [music] he passed away. Up next, when an emergency call led officers to a crime scene that appeared to have been deliberately planned >> [music] >> involving suspects determined to conceal the truth. >> He's definitely uh been involved in some shooting investigations previously. >> What did you do in the afternoon that day? >> Well, I chill with my son. In the streets, you play as killer be killed. You know. >> I'm telling y'all can get me killed. [ __ ] if this is the same alleged [ __ ] that shot All he have to do is make a call. Now, I'm dead. >> On July 24th, 2024, officers in Michigan received an emergency call after a man had been shot at a residential complex. Upon arrival, they encountered a scene that appeared to have been planned. But, what they didn't expect was how deep the case would go involving suspects experienced in criminal activities. >> What did you hear see today? >> Well, I was in there getting my hair done and I just heard the shots so I fell on the ground. And when I didn't hear any more shots I looked out the door and I So I went to the stairs and that's when I seen him laying there. >> Okay. Do you recognize that male laying in there? >> Um I've seen him around here before but I don't know. >> We'll just go right out this way if you don't mind and we'll talk out here. Do you live Do you live in one time here? Are you Are you uh the tenant on the lease here? >> Yes, I am. >> Step out here a little bit more. >> Yes, I am. >> How long you been living here for? >> Four years almost. >> Four years? >> Why is y'all Why y'all asking me all these questions? I just stepped out my apartment. >> So right now I'm not discussing anything here as I'm unable to physically and mentally right now. We're investigating the shooting that happened over here. >> Okay. Okay. >> And we have reason to believe believe that it might be tracked back here at your apartment right now. >> My apartment? >> At least that's some of the information we've got so that's why we just got to ask these questions and we'll we'll your apartment. >> go in there and search whatever y'all want to do. Ain't nobody >> Take my interest. >> Yeah. >> Is obvious place backpack. >> Yeah. >> 30 seconds in and I'm almost done. Well, for what it's worth the ID in this backpack is for Donquae White. >> Does he uh >> He's definitely uh been involved in some shooting investigations previously. >> Did you leave the big pocket for last? >> Well, I wanted the gun bag first. It's just a bunch of soap in here cuz he's sometimes a loser. >> How long ago was that? >> Yesterday. >> Okay. When's the last time you seen Donquae? >> I haven't seen him. I talked to him earlier. He called me and asked me how I was doing them I wasn't feeling good but >> Okay. So, you checking up on your naked picture all day and all that. Okay. Is he Is he been staying here with >> No. No. Hell no. >> Where Where's he been staying? >> What I don't know. He grown. I don't know. I don't deal with no no >> Police identified 23-year-old Donquay White who had been connected to other shooting investigations. According to authorities, investigators later identified another suspect, his 21-year-old brother Deonte Armstrong. Just 1 week later, officers were able to apprehend Donquay following a confrontation. >> Let me see your hands out. Step out now. Step outside. Hands high in the air. Hands high in the air. Walk down the stairs. Walk down the stairs. >> I've got it. I've got it. I've got it. >> Walk backwards. Come right back to me. Come back right Hands behind your back. Interlock your fingers, man. Interlock. You okay? Go take a seat. >> What am I here for? Who is this, bro? >> That's a good question. Is a detective Is a detective available for an interview? >> Which detective are you asking >> I don't know. We were told to bring him here for a detective interview. >> Okay. What's his name? >> What's your name? >> Y'all slow as a Donquay White. Y'all >> Donquay White. >> How y'all do your job and try to know who y'all arrested, y'all? Y'all was on there in the gray uniforms. It was It was no cop. >> We just so innocent, y'all. We trying to Let me sit down or something. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> You know where I can go? >> Hang in there, man. You got a minute? Just came in and talk to you. >> Yeah, man. Damn. >> How How old are you? You 21? 22? >> Well, I'm grown. >> That's what I'm saying. How old are you? >> Grown. >> What does that mean? >> I'm above age. >> What's above age? >> I'm over 20. >> Well, your name came up in an investigation that we're working on, so we wanted to >> My name came up in an investigation. So, y'all >> Well, what do you What do you think it's about? >> I don't really care cuz my name came up my name came up in anything. [music] >> Like what? Like what do you >> Don't worry about it. I'm just saying like a lot of anything. My name come up to my all type of [ __ ] I'm I'm I'm I don't know who was it. >> If you had to guess though, what would you guess? >> I don't do the guessing. >> Okay. >> I'm going. >> As the investigation unfolded, officers uncovered a prior incident, one they believe may have been fueled by revenge, shedding light on the motive behind the attack. >> So, we're looking into a a pretty serious case where you almost got hit a car. Did you hear about that? Did your brother tell you about that? >> Did you almost get hit by a car? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I remember that. >> Yeah, that's pretty serious, right? >> Yeah. >> We got witnesses that said you almost got hit by a car, right? We're looking into that. All right, what do you almost got hit by a car? >> Your brother. >> My brother? >> Yeah. Tell me about that. >> He told me about that. I he really tell me too much. He just said like he was crossing the street and like mother like sped up the car or whatever and like swerved on his side. That's all he told me. I really ain't ask him much cuz, you know, I don't want to. But I don't >> Did he seem pretty shaken up by it like he almost got by a car? >> Yeah, he called me like and then kind of called me like he was like I don't know if he like scared or crying or I don't And his voice he told me he was like, you know, like some [ __ ] happened but >> Did he say anything about trying to like find out who this person was? >> I mean, who wouldn't with the I mean, he hit you he tried to hit you what you going to do? >> I didn't have the conversation. >> going to call the police cuz you're a detective, dog. That's what you going to do. >> But I mean, to be honest, man, if I if I knew where the car went, I would probably be looking trying to Let's out who was driving that car. >> So, why would you think doing? >> I didn't have that conversation with him. Did he say he was going to try to find out who this person was? >> I just told him he told me what happened. >> Yeah. >> And I told him I'm with the Lil Jones, so I called him later. He never We never talked about that after that, so I don't know what >> So that was it? That was it? >> Yeah, that's over with. >> Yeah, or he didn't mention who did that or anything like that? I'm not trying to ask you the same thing more than once. >> He just wanted you to know he just asked Do you know what he who Did he find out or do he know who did it? And you going to ask the same >> No. >> Okay. >> What the I don't know he No. I didn't totally He talked about what happened and we didn't talk about that since, so I don't know what the [ __ ] happened or if he found out who did it or not. What the [ __ ] is wrong with you? >> Donkey denied any involvement in the incident, insisting that neither he nor his brother had done anything. >> [music] >> However, when police confronted him with video evidence, his version of events began to change. >> So this is this You know Fox are dead. Cameras everywhere. But can you see that, okay? So, tell me what you're doing right here. This this is the round the time close time frame for when your brother almost got hit. Like are you just out and about or what are you doing right here? >> I'm going outside. What do you mean? >> Okay. You don't know what you're doing then. What like prompted you to leave the apartment? Like why did you leave the apartment at this particular time at 5:55 p.m. on >> It's summertime. Who wants to sit in the house all day? Make Make it make sense. You You 20 20 years old [music] and it's 5:55 What the [ __ ] July. Hot. Who wants to just sit in the house? Be for real. Like you you just going to sit in the house? No, it's hot. I'm going to get some fresh air. I don't like I don't got to stay cooped up in the house. It's hot. >> Nobody said you did. I'm just asking like in particular, looks like you're kind of moving with a little bit of purpose. Like you're Well, I told you you're kind of going somewhere. >> I could have been going getting Right. Food is food out there. It's candy houses. I could have been going to get a wood to smoke. Anything. >> But, do you remember what you were doing then? Other than just in general. [music] Do you know what I mean? Like >> Well, I told you I was going to get something to eat. >> Okay. >> So, okay. Well, on my first I was going to get something to eat. I said nacho house, snack house. Like, come on, bro. >> Where's that at? >> In the back. >> We don't know where that is, man. >> Yeah, I know. It's in the complex. >> The back of where? >> You see It's a Alamo. What the Where my I mean >> I've never heard of a nacho house in my >> Right, cuz you ain't going to hear about it. >> Okay. >> You know. >> So, in the So, in the day, in the afternoon, what you doing in the afternoon that day? >> Well, I chill with my son and got high. Got some food. That's about it. >> Under straightforward pressure from officers presenting clear evidence, the suspect realized there was no way out unless he started telling the truth. >> What we noticed on this past Wednesday, last Wednesday, that he called you around this time before you came out of that building. Do you remember that conversation? >> Well, I mean, he just like called and said like come outside. That's what I I was personally going to get some food, but I was already on my way outside, so >> Okay. >> He was like >> What we're investigating in addition to him almost getting his Someone was I'm killed. Okay. And that's why we want to talk to you. Okay? We want to give you the chance to explain why this happened, okay? Listen to this for a second. >> I don't know about that. >> Listen. We know that you're responsible for that. You know that there's videos out there. You know that there's a lot of evidence, okay? We know that that happened. Okay. The thing that we don't know is why. >> Do you feel remorse for what you did? >> That guy? I mean I feel remorse for everything I do. >> Do you feel bad for shooting this man? >> Of of course. For so what? Like you know I >> Why did you shoot that man? >> And >> Cuz what? Cuz he tried to hit your your brother? And that's why you >> And then it was like And I don't know what to say. What else you say? All right. Y'all got to record it. My brother called him. Fled him. Left my vehicle [ __ ] And like I walked outside. Y'all seen that. And he was like Like my brother yelled from like from from from across the way. >> At this point, Donkay admitted shooting the victim claiming that in his community his life could have been at risk if he hadn't defended himself. However, his explanation [music] remained unclear. Detectives knew they were not dealing with someone innocent but with a criminal record that spoke for itself. >> And dude was kind of like he was giving me a iffy weird vibe. He was moving kind of fast and he kind of scared me. And he got to like reaching. >> Mhm. >> And like I don't know what was going on or I don't know what they had going on or anything before I came outside but he was like reaching. It made me nervous. >> She was like all right. >> And in these streets you play games You know? And I feared for my life. I felt like him my brother calling me and saying to whatever he said I ain't hear what he said but I just feel like he was going to do something to me. >> How many times did you shoot? How many times did you shoot? >> Ain't going to lie to you. I didn't think I was shooting >> Okay. How many How many Do you know how many times you >> Like five times or five times. >> Okay. How would you define that gun? Do you know what you do with that? >> No. Somebody took that from me. >> Okay. Who was that? >> I don't know who the person is, but they took it. Like took it Took it like as in took it like This This is like You know how you get something to give it to you and get it back to So, I don't know where that gun is at. They took it from both of us. >> Oh, okay. But at that time like when you guys met back up, you gave it to him, to Deonte. And you guys kind of went off from there. Well, you do. I mean, it's there's video of that. >> Video of me shooting? >> Yeah. But what you're saying now is someone took it from both both of you and you don't know where it's at now. >> You tell what I said? >> Yeah, it is what you said. >> Donquway had not provided a clear answer as to where the weapon was, raising the possibility that Deonte may have taken it in an attempt to hide the evidence. With no immediate answers, the search continued until 3 months later when highway patrol officers were finally able to track him down. >> So, this is >> [music] >> July 24th, 2024. It's about 5:44 p.m. Remember what you were doing that day? >> do nothing, honey. >> Okay. So, that's you. [music] This You live in this building? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, you walked across there. All right. So, [music] that That's about 5:45 p.m. >> That ain't it. That ain't nowhere where shooting was. Like That ain't nowhere like What time was the [music] shooting? >> About 10 minutes after that. Hell no. >> Hell [music] no. >> So, that's that was just one video I wanted to show you, okay? >> First the building like how you saw me walking out that Grab building at 5:55, if you pull that footage out, it will it will make sense to y'all right there. >> So, you're saying that camera view at 5:55 is not going to show you. >> No, it's going to show Don Quay walking out the back door, bro. That's not going to It's not going to show me. >> Is that Is that when you called him? >> Who? >> Is that when you called Don Quay just before he walked out of the building over there? >> No, I called We didn't call We called Don Quay for what? But Don Quay didn't don't answer for So, I called him. That's why I said that's That's like Like, I don't mind [music] cooperating, but I need to know like like I I need to know that I'm going to get some type of You know, like >> We're not saying you're a [ __ ] >> Like something that fuels them. >> Right. And And listen, we're going to show you this >> Like that's why I'm so confused on cuz I didn't shoot nobody. >> So, that's you coming back, right? >> Yeah. >> What did you just take from him? And just remember Just remember you said you wanted to cooperate. >> I did, but I'm not going to lie. If if you if you I don't know he had like if I don't know if y'all could try to catch him. But >> [music] >> he When he did that, he said I [ __ ] up. He had a man, phone, his weed, his scale. He put both of the guns right here. And [snorts] he had his phone and we ain't talking about taking it to the baby mama's. But he driving. >> As the investigation unfolded, that explanation started to fall apart, revealing a deeper rivalry and the possibility that the crime had been planned. >> None That don't like in that video don't show that the [ __ ] handing me no gun. It showed he had I took them, but it's not no gun or >> Now, let's see for a second, okay? You just said you wanted to cooperate and be honest. >> And I'm cooperating. >> Okay, listen. >> I had his phone and his and his I had his phone and his drugs. Literally, his phone and his drugs. And he said, "I'll be right back." He went to his mom's house. I went to go take his phone to his baby mama. Baby mama didn't answer. >> Did you know that he just shot somebody? >> I'm not going to say that, but he said he [ __ ] up. >> Okay. >> He said he [ __ ] up bad. >> Did you hear shots? >> Yeah. And that's what I'm I was going to tell you. Literally, there's so many people standing right there and everything. >> There's There's a lot of people out there, yeah. >> Right. >> When When you called him, what did When you called Donquae, what did you tell him? Did you say, "Hey, this guy's out here?" Or did you say, "Hey, come outside?" Or what did you say? >> I didn't I called him on the phone and said, "Bring the wood." >> That was it? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, let me show you this, okay? And this is This is going to make sense to you when you see this. I'm Yeah, this is in self. Yeah, these are just screenshots, so So, this is >> By time By time Listen for a second. >> That's [music] a gun in his hand, okay? >> Right. >> 100%. Okay. >> And that's when he started That's when he started tugging on him. >> There's a gun in his hand right there. >> Cuz he >> And then he's he's tugging and he's tugging on him. Listen. Have a seat. Listen. The next frame is that. >> No, bro. He's That's a screenshot, but I'm saying like if you watch the video If you really play the video, as he get right there, he's tugging something. He's going and he's digging digging in his pocket like >> But, listen now. Yeah, I know. This is from our perspective, okay? We're not there. I want you to see it from our eyes. Like we see a shadow of a gun. We know someone had just shot. Same hand the gun's in. Now all of a sudden >> But, >> Now all of a sudden it's in your, you know, hand in the same hand to you. You know what I >> But, that don't that don't look like no >> Despite being confronted with video evidence, Deonte continued to deny knowing what had happened to the alleged murder weapon. Investigators increased the pressure, questioning how he could claim innocence while the weapon remained missing, especially given the accusations against him. >> We understand what we're concerned about, right? It's because he handed you the gun and now we don't want to know where the gun is. >> Cuz it is what Justin was involved in. >> So, we need to know where the gun is. >> That makes sense. He didn't hand me no gun. He didn't hand me his phone, you know, and he didn't >> No. >> Why go over to Chicago and hide out for a couple months and like >> I didn't go to Chicago and hide out. >> Swap your phone and do all that stuff. Like, why why do that? >> That phone >> If you didn't do anything. >> First of all, that phone been my [ __ ] That phone been I actually broke >> [music] >> the phone. >> You know that? >> If y'all trying to figure out where the gun is, I think y'all should be asking that man, bro. It's like, come on, bro. He know what the Come on. I didn't do [ __ ] You know gun or nothing, bro. >> And why >> [music] >> why would Duck Quay do this time? >> Maybe if you ask him. This is like this is the same >> You know that they were feuding with P Thug? >> Yeah, bro. I couldn't tell y'all I'm I I can't like >> Cuz they weren't. >> Yes. >> [music] >> They weren't. >> Yes. >> They weren't feuding. >> You weren't. But, none of y'all are. >> How did Duck Quay know to come out of the building at that time? >> What do you mean? >> If I just told you we Me and A Oh my god, bro. >> Y'all are like, well, you saw the truck, right? >> Y'all aren't dummies. >> No, I didn't see the truck. >> You pointed it out and said it was right there. It was driving through the parking lot. >> But >> that was the car. >> [music] >> That That was the truck. >> But, Duck Quay been coming outside way before the truck even If y'all That's why I said y'all have I'm not If [music] y'all are not going to go get that 555 view of him walking out the building You've been walking through the through that grass area before. And as you can see, you speeding through the parking lot. You heard him park. So, Excuse my time. Duck Quay was walking out the building. He been walking out the building before the truck even went through the parking lot. >> [music] >> As she parked, Duck Quay turned the corner. So, y'all not just going to sit here and say, "Oh, well, how do you know they walk out the building at that exact time?" I know y'all not going to say that. Y'all not going to say that. >> The suspect struggled to answer even simple questions from officers, and in a moment of frustration, he began making claims that he was being treated unfairly. >> Did make it seem like I'm going to sit here and lie to y'all or or you know no, I'm not cuz I just told y'all I don't I'm here for my immunity and my protection. I'm I'm telling y'all can get me get this if this is the same alleged thing in the United States. All you have to do is make a call and I'm dead. >> Listen, you you need to stop banging on the table cuz I don't want them to rush in here and think something's going on. All right? We're done with that. I understand you're upset, but we're done. >> I'm telling y'all that they have prior beef and y'all just going to sit here and say, "No, they didn't." How would y'all know if y'all y'all don't know dumb crazy like >> Y'all be either one of us said, "No, he didn't." Or maybe he did. Maybe he did, but >> It's all camera. Play it back and and I said and I said >> I don't understand. >> I said I said I said I said they been have >> No, they didn't. >> Okay. >> On my dead granny, on my mama that's tired, on my dead homie that's tired of this. He said, "No, they didn't." >> Well, if he said it, I apologize. >> And I'm 99% sure that man is cuz he took that broom to his mouth. So, it's like I don't Y'all Y'all they Y'all they lied to me. They trying to arrest me over a gun that I literally don't know. This man's took it. It's not about nothing like I literally have no involvement like Yes, that like all that [ __ ] Ooh, but that's no, this man's had a really like way before me. Him and had incident before. That's what I'm saying like He's not like Yeah, he No, but he not allowed to tell you, but if he was but he could have told y'all cuz his peoples was making like his dad like Chuck got shot was even like before this >> [music] >> name of the real robbery too album little boy Don Quay. Trying to kill that man way before this. Gun up here is >> Right. But if you took a polygraph test and you were asked did you ever touch that gun would you pass or not? >> Oh, oh, yes. I'm I'm 100% 100% sure I would pass that test. >> In the end Don Quay White and Deonte Armstrong were charged with first-degree premeditated murder and felony firearm possession by prohibited person. Don Quay was sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole and Deonte was sentenced 46 [music] to 65 years in prison. Up next, when a desperate call from a daughter led police to a horrific scene after her father confessed to crime without [music] remorse. On July 5th, 2024, officers in Bonney Lake, Washington received an urgent call after a woman reported that her father had sent her multiple text messages admitting he had killed her mother. What initially appeared to be a sudden act of violence soon revealed a much deeper history. Years of domestic abuse, repeated protection orders, and ongoing threats that never stopped. >> Carmen, please show us your hands now. Show us your hands now. Don't do anything stupid. Stop where you are. Keep your hands up. Keep your hands where we can see them. Come to me, guys. No. Go that way. Go that way. Go that way. Hold it up. Take her for me. You got left? >> I'll take over verbal. >> I'll take hands. >> Okay. You want to take verbal? >> Yep. Come on the side of her. >> I'm also lethal certified. >> All right. Keep your hands where we can see them and back up to the sound of our voice. Walk backwards slowly towards us. You guys got room to actually handcuff? >> Yeah. >> Am I going to cuff your hands? >> I don't I don't know what to do with my hands. >> Yeah, I can transition now. >> All right, good. >> Please don't break them off. Sorry sir. We have to break them off dry for real. >> We'll check them. >> I got a bad shoulder. If you want to look at it, it's dislocated. >> All right, let's Okay, he's got >> I can get a whole finger in there, man. >> Yeah, you're fine. >> Well, the left one is not out. >> This one? >> Yeah. The left one. >> I'll loosen this one just like one, okay? I'm going to read you your rights, okay? You have the right to remain silent. Just Just listen to her, okay? You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law. You have the right at this time to talk to a lawyer and have him or her present with you while you're being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any questions. >> Well, at least it's dislocated. >> You can decide at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. >> It's dislocated. >> Do you understand that? >> Yeah, at least it's dislocated. >> Do you want to talk to us? Are you willing to talk to us? >> No. >> Okay. All right, let's just get in. Do we have someone from county coming? You can go in my car. Uh he can go right here. Okay, 240 PC. Uh let's go right here. >> When officers located the suspect, identified as 53-year-old Ronald E. Creer, they approached him cautiously. Within seconds, he revealed a chilling lack of emotion as he described what he had done to his wife, identified as 53-year-old Lisa Creer, showing no remorse, but rather a disturbing sense of satisfaction in his tone. >> It sounds like it has PC for armed robbery. Yeah, it sounds like it does. Okay. Just handcuff right now. Yeah, uh I'm going to call that detective. Are they coming to call first? They've got someone on the way. Here's the paperwork. Yeah. We'll just put him in a car for now and then actually get here and decide what they want. Good? Yeah. All right. You're still going to be audio recording. I'm good. >> I think my car got hit by fireworks last night. >> Did they mention that at >> I tried my car again. Um we're just waiting for county now. >> Yeah. >> Um it sounded like this was sounded like this was pretty fresh to me. >> Okay. >> And he said his name >> So >> He also said to >> All right, we're going to go back to the casino. Huh? >> What did you say? >> Uh I think you were reading Miranda and he said like at least that better or something like that. >> Oh good. >> He's got like fresh cuts and scratch marks on his face and stuff. >> So definitely sounds fresh to me. >> I'm going to look up that case in Lincoln later. >> Yeah. >> I guess you can bounce. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, thanks guys. >> All right, bye. >> Bye. >> Um hopefully And you just drove past him? I was looking for it. >> We were just about to check out the Lincoln City garage and then he pulled out with it. >> Uh and sounded super scared on the radio? >> I'm surprised he just gave up. Did he see you at all? >> Um I think he probably saw me like from over there, but he was getting gas, so he was like acting casual. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> During the search, officers noticed fresh scratches on his face and chest along with blood stained on his shirt. With all evidence and the confession, that device became the centerpiece of the investigation, revealing not only a crime, but Ronald's state of mind. >> They didn't say I couldn't go looking for it. >> Basically >> Okay. >> I'm just glad you came home back and waited for you guys to post. >> Yeah, I think he saw me, so I was like worried he might drive away, but it didn't seem >> I know they want the truck helpful prints, so we won't touch it. >> Yeah, and he literally like we handcuffed him and he was like, "Yep, I did it. I'm glad that this is something like that." So >> Wow. Okay. Um >> And he's covered >> So, it must be super recent. >> Yeah, cuz it just got entered today, like a couple hours ago. >> Do you know what Is this DV or something? >> no idea. Brith called him. So, we'll probably end up pulling a case number, writing this up for writing something for Pierce County since he made that call. >> Um >> Where's he at now? >> In the back of my car. That one. Is there anything in there? Was it And we didn't have any like circumstances of this with a gun or anything. He doesn't have anything on him. >> county's already got somebody coming. >> Do they? I can't hear a dang thing. >> She called. >> Okay. >> I called I called Brith. Um but he said you were on your way. >> Oh. >> Um but I think somebody told somebody said county was going >> Yeah, county was going >> I I told I radioed for for a deputy county having anybody in the area, and she just called like after you guys got here because of the >> Okay. >> Yeah, I don't know what weapon of choice was. It just isn't >> Okay. Um from from what I understood from briefly talking with the detective >> Uh-huh. >> Uh he texted his wife and then texted the kids, "Door's open. She'll be >> I think Pierce County >> And then >> During the search of Ronald, the suspect remained calm, offering little explanations. As procedures continued, investigators noticed he was carrying a large amount of cash, suggesting he may have been attempting to flee at the time of his arrest. >> I'm going to have you step out for a second. We're going to get you fully searched, and then we'll transport you to meet the detectives, okay? Sorry. Once we get you driving, they can pull down back there. You're supposed to have your hands out instead of holding your pockets. Take everything out, and it'll Money. That is a lot of money. >> I'm making money. Let's count it out loud. I'll let her do something. Not going to pass out or anything, are you? >> Probably. >> Probably? >> Probably. >> Okay. Hope not. Once we get driving, it's usually pretty cold. >> I'm going to wipe off my face. >> Yeah, you're sweating. Call me wallet. I'm going to leave the truck keys with you and I'll take the other keys. >> Okay. >> I have one. I have three. 1,300. >> Yeah. >> Okay, I'll take this and then have Sergeant check this. >> Ronald was taken to the police station. There was no doubt about his involvement and his statements only revealed the cold manner in which a life had been taken. >> This is Officer Shupe with Auburn PD. >> Here's Officer >> Schwartz from the Sheriff's um I'm coming to get the the truck for >> Okay. Uh >> The address I have is uh 2802 Auburn Way. >> Yes, Auburn Way South, yeah. >> Who owns the property right now? All right. >> Want to step out? >> Well, Mr. Cryer, I'm Deputy Schwartz with the Sheriff's Department. >> Yeah, yeah, whatever. >> Okay. All right, we're going to walk over to my car, okay? And then we'll swap out cuffs. All right, go ahead and face the car. >> You don't have to be rough, man. >> I'm not being rough, man. Make things as uh gentle as we can here, okay? >> Please don't make me look [ __ ] stupid. >> I'll put the bigger cuffs on you, bro. How about that? >> I got a bad shoulder. >> You got a bad shoulder? >> Yes, it's permanently injured. >> Okay. Well, like I said, I'll put the bigger set on you. All right, we're going to have a seat back here, okay? >> Yeah, that's a swimsuit. And there's some more shirts. >> All right, man, just FYI, there's a camera recording you back here, too. So. All right, I'll be back in just a second. Cool. >> He did say while I was trying to read it to him, uh at least >> Oh, really? >> Yeah, he said that. >> Yeah, he said that a bunch of times. He said I have to seize the >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's it. >> All right. Yeah, are you guys writing writing a report on it then? >> Oh, yeah. >> Perfect. I'll uh pass that along to the detectives. >> Cool, thanks a lot. >> Yeah, have a good one. >> In the end, Ronald E. Curry was charged with first-degree murder and felony harassment. Next up, officers faced a situation that could turn fatal [music] at any moment as they came face-to-face with a suspect holding a victim at knife point, forcing them to act with precision and stay completely composed. >> Hey, somebody in there? >> Back away. >> You're going to put that down. >> Back away. I'm just going to wait. >> Go. Go. Go. Are you okay, sir? Are you okay? Are you okay? >> On February 9th, 2022, officers from Bakersfield, California, responded to a call where they reported that a man had been smashing car windows and carrying out an assault with a dangerous weapon. >> David, stop. >> Don't get yourself in more trouble, bro. Just stop and drop the knife and drop the fire extinguisher. Subject's uh igniting the fire extinguisher, starting to run. >> Hey, somebody in there? >> Back away. >> You're going to put that down. >> Back away. >> We'll back up. Put it down. >> At this point, the situation escalated. The suspect did not collaborate with officers. He appeared that he did not give in at any cost. At this moment, when officers had to make a difficult decision. >> Go. >> Hey. >> Get back with me, couple. Stabbing. >> Go. >> We're hostile. >> Go. Go. Go. Hey, somebody in there? >> Yeah, back away. >> Sir, you're going to put that down. >> Back away. >> Well, back up. Put it down. >> Back up and leave now. Go. Put your gun away. >> Put your hands >> Put your weapon down, come on. >> Stop it. Don't. >> They have a hostage. >> Go. Go. Go. Okay, are you okay, sir? Are you okay? Are you okay? Hey, are you okay, sir? >> In the end, based on circumstance, the suspect was dead at the scene.