Put your hands behind your back. >> Wa! Will, come here. Do not walk away from me. Do not walk away from me. >> Don't do that. >> He's been like this all day. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Yeah. >> Get this out of the bag. >> These children do not understand why the adults have suddenly grown uneasy. To them, everything still feels normal. >> Come out with your hands up. >> Let me SEE YOUR HANDS. PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN. PUT YOUR HANDS UP. DO IT NOW. >> SHE COME IN. I'm holding the baby. I tell him he's sleep. She tried to snatch him away from me. Hitting on me and so >> No, I'm pregnant. >> Okay. Do you would you like >> However, to outside observers, small details begin to form a picture of concern that the children themselves are not yet able to notice. >> My minor that he arrested and was calling her sweetie, honey, sugar, everything. He followed her home. >> To adults, this is a concerning situation, but to those involved, it feels like nothing more than a casual conversation with someone unfamiliar. On October 26th, 2023, police contacted [music] the same man twice within 20 minutes after reports of concerning interactions involving teenage girls at a shopping plaza. When officers arrived, he was inside a Walgreens with a 14-year-old girl. >> So, we both hired a gentleman, his name's Karine. He's been told, cuz he's been fired, he's been told not to come back into either one of our stores. He repeatedly does so. Two nights ago, he was harassing one of my 16-year-old miners. I was not there. It was that night. uh the employee that's that was there and witnessed it again and she's at the store right now. >> Is this him right here or what? >> Dude is over at Walgreens with a 14-year-old right now. My minor that he harassed and was calling her sweetie, honey, sugar, everything. He followed her home. My son walked her home. He lives in his car over there in the parking lot. I have his license plate and he walks in and out of our stores constantly. Doesn't buy nothing. He's been repeatedly asked not to come in our store. >> Okay. >> And he lives in the he called us and he lives in this car. Does she the person he's with right now? Does she have a cell phone and stuff? >> I don't know who that little girl is. But she left with him willingly. >> Well, he was talking to her, trying to spit his game to her. He asked her if she was 18. He said, "No, I'm only 14." She said, and then he off he goes with her. So, if we find her dead and murdered, it's okay because she willingly live with me. >> Yes. People are allowed to be friends with other people. >> No. No. Grown adult is allowed to be as friend. >> She She is not called now. We're looking for them right now, but I'm just saying right now all we know. >> Inside Walgreens has a blue shirt. Is he a male black or male white? He >> has a backpack on. >> Inside the store, the man appeared uncertain and cautious, avoiding clear answers about [music] his connection to the girl. Behavior that led adults to pay closer attention to her wellbeing. >> All right. You got ID on you? >> I'll be right back. >> Yes. Okay. Do >> you guys know each other? >> Okay. I got a call. How do you know each other? >> Oh, >> how do you know each other? >> You're clear at Walgreens. >> Correct. That's the third time I've asked. How do you know each other? >> Is everything okay, sir? >> Okay. You refuse to answer. That's fine. If you How old are you? 18 at least. Yep. If you come out here to my car with me, look. >> Is everything okay, sir? >> I'm investigating something right now. You have been named and everything. I need you to step out to my car right now. You understand? >> No. >> You can either walk out there or I'm going to escort you out there. >> It's your choice. Let's go. >> Okay. >> Let's go. >> Jesus. I'm coming. Let's go. >> You can stay right there. >> Whoa. >> Take your books back off and have a seat. Take your book. It's on recording, by the way. as am I. >> I'm a regular citizen. You're harassing me. I'm not doing me a car. >> Have a seat. >> Oh, there you go. >> I'm investigating something right now and you are not complying with me whatsoever. >> Nothing. >> That's kind of suspicious. >> I need your ID. >> Okay. I haven't done anything. >> Black male with a backpack and then she's a lightkinned female, black with a blue. >> How would someone not hear that? I haven't done anything over to walk offense right now. >> Look, you're arresting someone for no reason. >> Who said you were under arrest? >> This This is how hostile you have been towards hostile. >> Yes, you have. I've never seen I wasn't >> You pulled away from me. I told you I was investigating something. You're pulling away from me, >> right? And I'm trying to agree to your terms of condition, but you're not giving me any information. You're not following blind. >> I I told you that I'm investigating something, right? Okay. >> I have no right to as well. Like, what is she still recording? That's kind of embarrassing. >> Everything's recorded, bud. Everything is. It doesn't bother me one bit. >> It's being recorded, but I'm just >> Okay. Is your dad home? Is your dad home? >> Can I get a visualiz? >> I don't That's the situation. >> At this moment, I can't speak freely about that. Okay. >> That doesn't make sense. You're here. It absolutely does. >> Serve and protect, not distress. >> You need to hang out for a minute. Good. Have a seat in the car for a minute. >> Is everything okay? Can I have >> Yes, everything is okay. Right now, you are not under arrest. You are detained. I'm investigating something. Okay. So, I need you to have a seat in the car. Have a seat in the car. Get in the car completely. I am shutting the door. Fresh. Huh? Nothing's brute force. >> That is brute force. >> I've explained everything to you so many times. >> You said you were investigating. >> Correct. That's all you need to know at the moment. I can't speak freely right now. >> But if it's information on me, why not? >> Guess it's an investigation. That's why >> at least everything's okay. >> Get in the car. >> It is everything's okay. I haven't done anything. >> Watch your leg there. >> Meanwhile, the girl believes she was simply engaged in a normal [music] conversation. This contrast in understanding highlights why young people benefit from early guidance about healthy communication boundaries. Is your dad home? >> That's us. >> I can call him right now. I I'm I'm trying to be very civil, very easy goinging >> at the house. Why aren't you allowed at home? >> It's none of your business. I don't know why you're >> So, we received a call. Okay. You're still juvenile, correct? >> Okay. We received a call that an adult male. Make sure you Well, first of all, how do you know that? >> How do I know him? >> Correct. >> Cuz he's you live. >> So, if I called your dad right now, he'd be okay with you with being with him. You're a juvenile. He's an adult. and I just was talking to him outside and I know that I have a conversation. >> You're being silly. You're being silly. >> I'm not being silly because I was having a Go ahead and tell me why. >> We received a call. There was a male harassing uh female juveniles and it's been an ongoing issue. They described you two to a tea. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, that's why I'm investigating. >> Oh, no. Promise you nothing. No. >> So, how do you know him? >> I know. Like, I've seen him around here. I was being nice. I want to have a conversation with somebody. I'm Christian. So, I see somebody and I want to have a conversation, be nice and have a conversation. I'm going to have a conversation and I just wanted to I was just talking to him. I saw somebody in my skin. He seemed cool. I wanted to talk to him. That's sad. Like, there was there's nothing going on. And I don't know why that person couldn't came up to me or said something or whatever because that's just not adding up. Like, what? Okay. I don't I just It's just nothing. Like, it's weird. >> Is this your first time having contact with her? Is she okay? >> Kind of. >> I've seen it before. I just was having a conversation. >> Okay. >> It was later discovered that the man had previously been asked to leave multiple stores on several occasions due to concerning interactions with minors. >> Okay. >> So, you're well aware of what's going on. You've been fired from Jersey Mike. They don't want you back. You're harassing juveniles. That's the report we're getting. Listen, listen. Listen. Why don't you work at Jersey Mike? >> Not anymore. Correct. Listen. >> I'm listening. What else? What else? last. >> They don't want you back at Jersey Mike's. >> I haven't been there. >> The complaint that we received is that you're an adult. You are an adult. >> I am an adult and I'm being [ __ ] up. What is what's not at all? Look, body cam's been on the whole time. I'm I'm not concerned about anything. Okay? I've explained things to you. I told you what I needed you to do. I told you I was investigating something. It's very plain and I'm following with your procedures, but at the same time, you're giving me no information. You can't just lock someone up and then >> Are you locked up? No, you're not. >> Yes. >> No handcuffs. You were detained. I told you I was investigating something. I'm not going around with you right there. Okay. >> Jersey Mike doesn't want you back. >> That's cool. >> The uh they've been saying that you're harassing Listen, >> I'm not harassing anybody. >> Female juveniles. Okay, that was our call. Here you are with a female juvenile. You guys don't even know each other. >> She came up to me cuz she needed help. I had a peace. I was going to give her some food or nothing. I don't know her background. >> So why would you tell me that where I have uh venues to help her? >> Say again. >> You said what was you about to say? A warrant. >> Why wouldn't you tell me that is what I said? I didn't want to throw her business out there in the public and then you just harassed me and they >> No one's harassing you. We had a call for service. >> Is this what you call it? Detaining. >> Detaining. >> Detaining. Yes. >> That's not harassment. I'm investigating something. Came up to me. You heard on my radio they described you to a te. Correct. Someone not even here >> over there. I was literally over there 2 seconds ago. >> So >> at Dollar Tree. And then the lady who came over there ran to my face. She's harassing me, right? >> No. She felt something was going on. A male adult is hanging around female juveniles. >> No, I'm hanging around myself. She came towards me and I was asking her does she need any help? If we were to take the score, everyone would know who I am. I'm just saying. >> I'm not concerned. >> Okay. >> You're banned from over there. They don't want you back. That's passing you. So, don't go back over there. My understanding is your car is still over there. Correct. >> Yeah. My vehicle is there. It's my mom. >> Good deal. >> But it's not over there towards Jersey Mike. So, what >> Well, this is this is what I'm going to say. >> This is >> it's obviously a shared parking lot with lots of businesses there. It is when this could have been a conversation inside Walgreens. It could have been. >> No, but that's throwing my business out there. It's throwing my business out there. >> That's absolutely silly. What you just did was silly. >> Not at all. It was my job. >> So, you're good to go. Go get in your car. Go about your business. >> Thank you. >> We're not allowing a female juvenile to go with you. >> That's cool. That's that's that's peachy cream. >> Do you want me to drive? Is your car so >> What is your guys's problem? >> As the situation deescalated, [music] attention turned to the girl's reaction. She was upset that her normal conversation [music] had been interrupted, reflecting the innocence often seen at this age. >> You know what? You guys are messed up because I just >> If we called your dad right now, what would his reaction be? You You threw it out there that that he works for the county. He's a sheriff's deputy. If he threw it out, if I called him right now, I have his number. If I called him right now and said, "Hey, I just located your daughter. >> Are you letting me talk?" So, I'm not I'm I wish I had cameras. I wish I had room on here right now. And I have >> This has been on the whole time. >> Well, your lights's not on and the case is >> that I'm >> It's okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't know why you're >> You are a female juvenile going up to male. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> That is not okay. >> On any level, you don't know who he is. >> I was having a conversation with him. I wasn't in the car with him. I wasn't holding his hand. I wasn't none of that. I was nothing. I wasn't doing anything wrong. I was having conversation walking with somebody. It's just like walking with There's literally nothing wrong with that. I was walking with him. So, it's not like I'm with him. I just met him. I didn't get out the car with him. I wasn't doing anything. It's fine to walk with somebody and it's totally fine. >> No, you don't know. >> I'm done because I I need to go with my anger right now because I just met somebody and you you messed it up. >> An adult male because I wasn't doing nothing. Dude, I'm not going to do this with you because I already told you I wasn't doing I He didn't. >> Did I say you were? >> No. Yes. You were like you walking around with He didn't do nothing. I was telling you that. I told you he didn't do nothing wrong. You know, I told you he didn't do nothing wrong. You saying he harassing me? He ain't doing nothing. >> No one's harassing me. That's what you >> you need to get over. >> I responded for a call for service. >> You said you just go and meet him and be next to me. >> No, we're good. >> He's an adult male. You're a female juvenile. You guys do not know each other. You're not family friends, anything like that. >> There's there's nothing good that can come of that. >> In your mind, yes. But in my because I'm Christian and I I'm kind and I do all of this where I will become friends with people. You guys just did way too much. Like yes, you did the money doing nothing. >> Did you hear the report that he's been harassing female juveniles from his workplace? That may I don't know. Do we know if that's why he got fired? >> He didn't He doesn't even work there, which that's correct. He got fired. He just No, he just moved here. I lied when I said I didn't know him. I've known him for a month. >> So you No, we're good. Have a good day. >> After calmly explaining that some everyday situations can involve unseen risks, officers [music] returned to their duties. 20 minutes later, they received another report involving [music] the same individual and chose to address the situation more thoroughly. >> Back he's back. >> Is he back? >> Yeah, he went back. >> Okay. >> Four boy 11. I'm going to be out with that uh trouble again. Back out at Dollar Tree. >> Ma'am, you want him arrested, right? Put your hands behind your back. Whoa. >> No, come here. Do not walk away from me. Do not walk away from me. Turn around. Put your hands behind your back. Put your hands behind your back. >> Excuse you. I need another unit over here. I can't use the rest. >> Put your hands behind your back. Hold up. Hold up, sir. >> Now, I'm not asking you. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Yeah. >> You're going to get tased, dude. Stop it. >> Put your hands on your back. >> Don't touch my stuff. >> Put your hands behind your back, man. Come on. Stop. I need >> Stop resisting. Stop it. >> Stop resisting now. >> Stop resisting now. >> That was pretty silly. >> Double lock. >> You guys said jersey mics. I went in here to use the rest. >> What are you reaching for? >> That's racing. >> Watch your hand. Watch your hand. >> What? I don't have anything on me. Leave your hands behind your back. >> Go ahead. Shot my pockets. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's got a hole in the pocket. >> Hold on. Hold on. Trust tightening down. >> You can check my ID and everything. You're good. >> Like I said, citizen. >> No, you're fine. >> Still being recorded. >> Should be good. Double check him again when we get him up. >> You can roll on your side and get >> That's cool. When I was told from you, Sir Owens, Mr. and recorded. >> Racist, >> stop moving. Stop reaching for stuff. You're under arrest. Not at all. >> Walking out of the car. I don't get >> racist. My people going to see this. It's over. Y want to make accusations. >> Well, it all started cuz you're hanging out with female juvenile. >> I wasn't hanging out with a female juvenile. And it's all >> right. >> She needs statements from any of them or anything like that >> or if any of them saw what happened. >> The man may have faced [music] potential charges related to grooming and soliciting a minor. Under Ohio law, such offenses can carry a possible sentence of 1 to four years in prison. In reality, children often have [music] difficulty telling the difference between friendliness and risks. This is why teaching personal safety skills, recognizing uncomfortable behavior, and encouraging the young to seek help from adults is so important. >> Look at them. Look at them. Just look at them. >> Tell them about, sweetie. It's okay. >> It's okay. >> Among everyone involved, this child, though not formally noted in the case file, maybe the one most likely to carry long-term emotional effects. On June 21st, 2022, police received a call regarding a family dispute. According to the report, a man engaged in highly volatile behavior toward the mother of his children involving a hazardous substance and actions that caused her to fear for her safety. He also made statements suggesting potential damage to the home and risk to [music] those inside. The woman required hospital care while the children remained in the residence. After her release, continued messages raised concern, [music] leading officers to obtain a warrant as a necessary protective measure. While attempting to confirm his location, he contacted officers and claimed he was elsewhere. However, available data suggested he was still inside a relative's apartment. Officers remained patient and professional, [music] maintained communication, explained the situation, and encouraged him to come outside voluntarily. >> Police department >> there. I thought I heard something up here, too. Tetra, what's the address on the warrant here? County Police Department, come to the door. We know you're in there. Uh we've had a subject lock both doors on us. >> You have a warrant for your arrest. Come to the front door. >> He fought us last time we arrested him for ages against his >> Yeah. >> Girlfriend. >> Girl. >> Oh, it's a girl. >> Hey, Kenneth, come on downstairs, man. Man, we had this conversation a little while ago. >> Let me call some other officers. Hey, you working? Do you want to come help us with a a barricaded subject? H yeah, he he's got a he got seven warrants, but a ball is the main thing. Cool. I got two block boys and Juan coming. >> Game set match. Is that what you're saying? >> Huh? >> You're saying game set match. Is that >> game? Juan's on the >> I love like the nicest guy in the world. Kenneth, call back into the police department. We can talk. Kenneth called in and saying that he's but the phone pinged at the house. >> I'm good here. >> Yeah. >> Hey Kenneth, this is Harris man. Ain't nobody going nowhere. We going to come inside. So I just tell you come on out man. I don't catch no more charges. No nothing. >> She's trying to call in to be connected to him. He's back on with 911. >> Hey Kenneth. Hey. This is Officer Bradshaw. >> Good now. >> Yeah. With the phone ping. Yeah. >> You want You want Officer Harris? >> He's at the front door. Tell him to come on. >> Okay. >> He wants you. >> What's up Kenneth? >> Hey Kenneth. This is officer Harris right here. >> What's up, man? >> What's up, >> man? I'm on the west side, man. I'm on the west side. She say she seen a whole bunch of police around the house. >> Huh? >> Well, tell your sister to go home. >> He's on the west side. >> He's on the west side. We're on the phone. >> I mean, I don't get you, but where you at? Okay. So, where you want me to meet you at? >> Yeah. Yeah, you can call my personal phone. It's uh 7 76. >> Okay. I'm I'm waiting. I'll wait. I'm out here. Just call me when you get If you If you call me before before she does, then I'll come pick you up and I'll leave here. All right, man. >> Bad control. Is it still uh pinging here? Clear. He's saying that he is now on the west side. >> Come down right now. You won't be charged with anything additional. We have to force come in there. >> Man, you got a battery charge on a female, man. Open the door. That's all it is. Yeah, you might say it a couple weeks, but you ain't kept no damn body. So, open the door. here. Knock on the door since you're there. >> Clark County Police, come to the front door. >> All right, let's >> After an extended period without cooperation, officers entered the apartment to carry out the warrant. >> Have any history with guns? >> No, not to my knowledge. He's got strangulation in his past. >> Known to fight, known to flee. What's his >> He sprayed lighter fluid on a girl. Try to light her on fire. >> Oh, you got taser. >> Ricky right there. >> Cool. I'm hot, bro. >> This is the Clark County Police. Come to the front door. You have an active warrant for your arrest. >> So, let's let's breach the door. >> Go ahead. Breach it. [clears throat] Come out with your hands up. LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS. PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN. PUT YOUR HANDS UP. DO IT NOW. PUT YOUR HANDS UP. GET ON THE GROUND. >> Hands behind your back. >> I got it. I got it. >> Yeah. You got to get real shot on that. >> We're not We're not getting rough. >> Hey, just hold on. Stir. We're not getting real. How long was you dripping flavor? Stop resisting. >> I'm not doing no mother resistance. You can't resistbody else. >> Roll on your side. >> Roll on your side. You got any bro? >> I got you. >> All right. Stand up. Put your knees. Put your knees up. >> Roll up on your knees. Put your knees up. Roll over. Put your knees on. >> Kenneth, you're a grown man. >> Man, my throat is dry here. >> Roll over. >> Put your knees up. >> Sit up. >> Sit up. We can get you up. >> All right. Let's jump up. Ready? >> You got anything in your pocket? >> Yeah. I need everything. I got in my pipe >> there. You want the help with that? >> That's sweet. >> Besides, please. >> Yeah. >> You want to see right here? >> Oh, watch out for the baby. You haven't checked it. Okay. >> You're fine. So, what happened this morning? >> Your phone. >> You got to put that in my pocket. I got to get my phone number. >> You going to take it with you? >> Come on. Me, bro. Whatever. Let me get some of this. My throat dry, though. I'm telling you, bro. I a had no water all night. I've been sleeping. I've been knocking on the door for 20 minutes. >> Let me get some Let me get some drink. My throat dropped. >> You'll be at the jail about my little shoot me. We going to rush to to the car, bro. My throat dropped. I can't breathe. >> At the same time, police checked on the well-being of others inside the apartment, ensuring that no one felt unsafe or restricted. Among them was a woman in a highly distressed emotional state who required calm reassurance. >> Who's this cat? >> [laughter] >> I think I put my stuff in my low back. >> You're fine. >> No, I'm pregnant. >> Okay. Do you Would you like EMS? >> I don't know. I don't know enough about heart. >> No. EMS like an ambulance. >> No. >> All right. So, hold on. Let me >> Are you miss I'm assuming? Okay. So, what what happened up? >> When I got up, >> did you hear us knocking? >> My door My door was shut and Okay. My door was shut and locked cuz I sleep. And I heard my dad say the police at the door. >> Who's your daddy? >> In there. I was like the police in the door. >> No, there's nobody in there. >> Somebody in there. >> Mm- Where's your daddy? >> Like um >> what? >> Where? >> Where's your water at? >> In there. There's some water right here somewhere in the kitchen. >> In this bowl. >> I don't know who that is, but I my throat dry >> right here in the freezer. >> Man, know me. You was a officer. Bro, >> stop pulling away. Can >> Bro, ain't nobody doing nothing. You got that bean bag like that hurt [ __ ] I just did sick e beating y'all in the camera. Let me see. Bro, you the sh man. >> You beat that sh. >> You want this or no? >> No. >> Stop pulling away. >> Are you going to get nothing? >> D wants to interview him. >> He said what's his name? >> What? >> He told me somebody at the door and I was like the police at the door. was the policeman at the door. So when I got up, I seen the car outside and I was like, I got on the door because this I got on my door. Open the door. So I went her downstairs like right downstairs. He said he did like this go back open the door. I was like if I don't own the door get put out I can't get out cuz I got kids and we ain't got no go. So I came in the room and got so I called my family please come over and come over here. I know y'all right there, man. I'm there. I'm not there in front of the AC, but I heard nothing. I just heard somebody in the house. What the hell? >> Okay. Is there any reason why you didn't call police? >> So, she's supposed to act out that I was at the door, but she's some way over here. >> Okay. >> To tell y'all, >> but he didn't like put hands on you or anything like that. Who said he? Your brother? >> Ken? >> Yeah, >> that's my brother. >> That's your Okay. >> And when he said my brother, >> but you said your dad y'all's dad was here. >> I thought he was. See, that's why I don't I don't know what going on out there with my drug. >> Hey. Um, >> can I get her? Okay. I just want to make sure you weren't held hostage or anything like that. >> Oh, he's downstairs. He said, "Don't open the door because I have a warrant." How the hell you got a warrant you come to my house? You jumping on my apartment, my kids. Our mom is dead. I don't have no >> Okay. >> He let nobody open the door. >> No, I'm just I'm just waiting for it to come back. So come back. >> Oh, are you the father? >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What's that? in my damn bl outside you my >> Oh, you going to get it when I get out. That will beat you. >> Beat you. >> I'm gang. Y'all know how I do this. Punish y'all when I get out here. Records indicated that this man had been involved in previous incidents related to concerning behavior and challenges in fulfilling parental duties, highlighting the importance of early support and timely access to mental health resources. >> Okay. Okay. [screaming] >> What's the matter, bud? >> All right. I'll call my Bob right now. >> That's fine. Appreciate you being cool about it all. >> Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir. I mean, all the trouble you can have, yours is loose. >> And it wouldn't even been addressed right now if you would have just told Mr. Kenneth to get out the door. [laughter] >> I heard you. I'm not blaming you for it. I'm just saying that's why we're upstairs. >> I won't take everything. >> I will. >> Are y'all able to transport him? Okay. >> Can't have my gun up when y'all open the door. >> Told you cuz I should have dipped all last night. Nobody would come pick me up. But I'm gone cuz that's a long time. But you know a lot of y'all got me. 12. I don't even know why I stayed in that last night. They told me to leave. All right. I don't know, man. I ain't got You got my dad. Hey, I got I got the family. I got the >> fight. >> Yeah. >> Charge with you. Tell me charge. >> Oh, the ardam fire. my radio. >> You want to come tell him bye, baby? >> Yeah. >> Come on. >> Is this >> made me cry? >> Is this your daddy or >> he? I used to go with him. >> Okay, you can come tell him bye. >> Hey, Ken. She wants to tell you bye. Okay, >> she'll tell you bye. >> All right. >> Don't look at him. Look at him. Let's look at them. >> Tell them bye, sweetie. It's okay. >> It's okay. >> Oh my god. My feeling >> my face was >> I'm going to get something in the car. I ain't got anything back in my phone at >> I got it right here. Come on. You got the phone. Yeah, I got it. Go ahead. >> Bye, baby. >> All right. Come on. Go in the car. >> It's okay, honey. >> It's okay. >> He's all right. >> He's okay. Trust me, >> he's not hurt. >> He not going to do nothing to sing, >> man. That high the hell to him. >> All right. We going to come. >> You want You want some AC? >> I got AC. The AC's on. >> AC's on. >> You know trying to do no running address. >> I know this, man. We good. >> [ __ ] ain't be there. If you going that house and going my shoes, bro. I completed my I completed my classes. I to get off no June 28th. I a checking right now. So it should >> that's not closed. >> At the station, he continued to display conduct that disrupted standard procedures. handcuffs. I don't even want to talk. >> You said your handcuffs are too tight. Let me check them. >> We'll listen. >> Turn around. >> Finger too tight. You see ain't no ain't no thing in there. >> What do you mean things? They're They're on the just the way they're supposed to be. >> They ain't, man. >> You want to loosen them up a notch, >> man? They take me to the jail. So these come all in these too tight. You see them right here. >> I can see right here. >> It don't matter. That's supposed to be room. That's way down all the way down right here. >> Look, that's two fingers on here, >> man. Just take me to the jail, man. I don't want to talk. Take the handcuffs out me. I don't want to talk. Have a seat type, man. >> It's fine. You don't have to talk, but you need to sit down. >> I sit down and y'all got way down there, man. Ain't no mother room in the handcuff. >> We just showed you there. >> Ain't no room. I know where the room is. I've been getting locked up. Nathetic. Ain't no room in the handcuff, man. All the way. I ain't twist. I ain't twist. You might as well go take me to the jail. I don't want to talk. I want to talk. >> Okay, we'll get you down there soon. >> Sit down. I don't care about none of that. >> Your legs are going to get tired then. >> I don't care about none of that. You break up a sue cuz I ain't aggressive. I'm a handcuff. I know the law. I just did seven years in prison. I know. Can't break my bones. You your leg going to get twisted around. Still ain't going to talk. Then I talk. Talk about broke my leg. >> My phone. They got to get my phone. >> As officers attempted to seat him in the vehicle, tensions remained high. He refused to move unless permitted to use his phone to obtain contact information. When emotional regulation skills are limited, even routine pressures can intensify an already difficult situation. You >> ready? Man, they got to get my phone, man. I gotta get my mother property at my mother phone, bro. Y'all >> gonna do search warrants on it? >> They ain't got no They ain't got no reason to do search war once. >> Let's go. >> No, I gotta get my phone, man. Y'all got me. I need my phone. I can't call nobody. >> Did you get numbers out of it? >> Nobody know anybody numbers off. >> I don't know none of the number, bro. I don't care about none of that, bro. I don't care about none of that. But I don't care. I need my numbers out my phone. I'm going to go to Tang. I ain't got no number, bro. I'm not doing none of that, bro. If I ain't got my phone, bro, I'm not getting in that car. I'm not getting in the car. I don't care about getting tags or none of that. So, we ain't going to tell you. >> I don't care, bro. I need my numbers out my phone. I ain't got none of my numbers. >> Who numbers you need? Is it >> bro? I need a lot of numbers. I ain't got none of them folk. Give me my phone in the county. Y'all can get that out of the out of my property in the county. No. Hell no. I need my They like that. >> I think I think they're keeping your phone for invest in investigative purposes. >> My phone ain't got nothing to do with no investigation. >> Like I said, it's not on y'all. Y'all go with >> Yeah. I don't care about no t or nothing. I fight off y'all going to talk to me. Why y'all talk to me? Cuz I'm not getting in. I'm not getting in that car, bro. I get my phone number. I'm not getting in that car. I'm y'all going to break a bone and I'm going at you. Not getting in that car, bro. >> Come on, man. Stop. >> Not getting me in. Not getting in. Not getting in. Not getting in the car, bro. I don't care if you break a bone or not. >> We're not trying to break your bone, >> bro. I need some number. Look, I'm going to stop resisting. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> bro. Just write me my phone and write me some number down there. Bro, you can keep that mother. We can do that. >> We'll work that out. >> I see. You racist. I'm talking to him. >> I can do that for you, bro. >> Get the phone and let me get some numbers out. >> I got you. I can do it. But you got to sit down in this car. I'm going run right back in there, get you your phone. All right. >> And then we get some numbers out. All right. >> That's all I want to get my numbers out. >> Okay. >> Call my people. >> Hide the hell in here. >> We'll get there going, but you got to slide your legs in, >> man. Hold it. Hey, I'm going to run in there. Just do what he say. Put your legs in. I'mma shut the door. >> You racist already, bro. >> I know you, man. I know that damn mean on your >> We're trying to do you a favor. >> I'm ask I'm talking to him, man. >> I'm about to pull you in the car and I'm just going to take you to the jail. You want the numbers? >> I'm asking him for the number, bro. I just going to drop on the ground and y'all when we get where we going, we going to have to fight, bro. When we come out, we going to fight. I fight the officer, bro. On GD and my mama, I fight officer. I believe I'm telling them give me the phone and let me get >> I'll get I'll get you the phone and get some number. >> You think I'm dumb, bro? You trying to grab me, bro? >> Leave me alone. White man with that racist. Hey, >> that man right here, man. That man right here. >> I'm talking to you. >> Just sit down. >> Come with that racist, man. >> Just Just sit down. >> He come back for me. >> I just won't. >> I'm going to get your phone. >> My number. Let him go get it cuz he out here trying to do some goddamn racing. Uh, no. >> He's going to get in the car. We're going to shut the door and then you can get his phone. He doesn't call the shots. >> If he doesn't get in, I'm just going to pull him in and we're going to we're going to drive. >> Man, I tell you, bro, if I don't get my numbers out my phone, get to the camera, we going to die, bro. >> Stop playing with me, man. >> Stop. Get in the car. >> You're under arrest, dude. We're not playing this game. >> Playing with me, HOM, MAN. You need to take your leave me the on. >> You need to get in the car. You're under arrest. I put some money on your head, [ __ ] I'm a honey man. I put some money on your head. >> Y'all get out here and give us a hand. I put some money on your head. Stop playing with me, man. Rooted it up, too. I put some money on your head, [ __ ] And I got your name. >> Hey, take a seat. >> Be hard. Put your ass on that goddamn pot. Burn your >> H4. I had you real sick. I playing, man. >> Come on. I'm trying to work with you. I'm trying to work with you, man. Just take a seat. >> I'm good. >> Slide back. >> Hey, man. Keep playing with me, man. Just get out here and give us a >> hand still trying to come over there. >> Hey, bro. I'm not going anywhere, bro. >> Hey, just slide back. >> I'm not going for it, bro. >> Just slide back for me. >> I need my number, bro. I cannot cooperate without my number, bro. >> Jamie, are you you're keeping his phone, right? He wants numbers out of it. Can you work that out for him? >> Now, I got to have a search with my phone. Like you just said, >> n you ain't got to be where you want to be with me. >> Yeah, I need a pan. I can't let you tuck it. But how do you >> Well, I can't. How the hell I'm get the number then? >> You got no f on you. >> Well, you my put it in my fave. >> Yeah. How you do it? >> Put it in my fave. Put it in my f. >> You got a pen. >> I got it. >> I got to write a lot. See, y'all don't write a D number down, man. My baby mama. See, man. That man ain't wring that down, man. >> Yeah. Yeah. He got it. He riding it. Come on. You going >> 12? What you put, man? >> The numbers you're calling out, dude. Come on. Let's go. I'm sick of playing games with you this morning. >> 20 913. Hold on. I ain't get what number that I really I need. >> Done playing game. >> Can't get up in there even if you try home. I got security on that. >> Let me get my paper. >> Make sure you get it, bro. Let that white man help you. You racing home, bro. >> I don't know why you keep saying on you paper, man. That man trying to play with me, man. >> I I'll get it from him. I got you. I'll get it from I talk as soon as we can, >> man. Please get my paper. >> Hey, we ride we riding together. Come on. Come on. >> I don't trust him, bro. >> Hey, we we riding together. Come on. >> I don't trust I don't care about dying, bro. I don't care about no taser, no spray. >> No, I ain't aggressive, bro. I'm just asking for what I need, bro. I'm making it hard for the folks in the county jail, man. Y'all just making it hard for the folks in the county jail. You got my number. I got I got my Bible in my pocket right here, man. >> We got the paper right here. We got the paper. >> Come on. Look, I got my Bible right here in my pocket, bro. >> The give that Thank you. Thank you. Put it in my Bible. >> Put my Bible right in my pocket. >> I just had my Bible. I take my phone ain't got permission to take my mother get all my numbers up there hard for them in the county hard for the officers in the county and they know I fight them every day >> watch your head watch >> I don't have my computer will one of y'all just print that up there >> you going to keep my phone you ain't got [ __ ] >> oh no it's cool >> call me I guess so >> no it'll be fine >> perhaps Perhaps the most emotionally weighty moment occurred when the children witnessed a familiar adult being taken away. An experience [music] that can leave lasting emotional impressions if not carefully addressed and supported. But I'm telling you, let me put you out of your hand. I'm telling you, >> get your ass back. >> I'm tell. [laughter] >> He's been like this all. >> Yeah, you going to get it. Stop touching me. You going to get it. Are you playing hard? >> We're going on my mom. >> You know you f to get it. You hit me boy. >> You hit me first. I'mma break your goddamn face. You hit me first. >> So, we're waiting on conditions cuz he's been making all morning. So, we'll leave once those are >> been threatening us the same way. >> I just didn't want to get in the situation where one of us was just he's not secure in the vehicle >> and then we're by ourselves with them. >> You can make all kinds of stupid allegations. you being a lot nicer than I was going to be. >> The man was charged with aggravated terroristic threats and acts, battery, criminal damage to property, criminal trespass, and two counts of to children. This case highlights the importance of emotional regulation, constructive conflict resolution within families, and always prioritizing the safety and emotional stability of children. Some homes are meant to be the safest places of all. Yet that night, a small house in Louisiana became the setting for a serious family conflict. >> He like grabbed me and I'm like, "LET ME GO. YOU GOT MY BABY in your hand and you fighting with my baby in your hand." >> On February 23rd, 2025, police responded to an apartment late at night following a call about a family dispute involving a couple who had welcomed a newborn just 3 weeks earlier. At the scene, officers documented the boyfriend's account [music] as he appeared physically and emotionally drained from prolonged stress. >> Hey, what's going on? That's when you want to be in jail. That's fine with me. >> I'm here with the kids. She been gone since 9 till 10:00. I got off work. >> How you staying over here? We'll kind of separate a little bit. >> I've been here with the baby since 9:00 when I got off work. She been gone. She just came back. She went to the other son up on my mama. She come in. I'm holding the baby. I tell him he's sleep. She tried to snatch him away from me on me. And so I ain't did that. All right. >> I'm in the bed. I got to go back to work at 6:00. >> All right. What's your name? >> Cadero. >> She just got home a few minutes ago. She came in. >> Yes. At 2:00. She been going since 9 or 10:00. When I got off, I came back. She was in the shower. She got the to put her clothes on, just walked out the door. >> And you're sitting here packing your car up. >> I was trying to get my keys off her keychain and put my stuff in my car. She instead of running around me and stuff. I said, "I'm just going to go." >> You talk to her. >> I can show you the message. She said, "What? She baby just born a week ago. You go out tonight, be gone at 2:00 in the morning, then come home, start a problem with me." >> Y'all married? >> No, I'm going to go. I got to be at work at 6:00. I've been at work all day. >> This happened tonight. The hair's in the shirt. >> Yeah, she hit me in the back of the back of the day with a belt and everything. Where she >> I'm going to get some pictures if that's okay. Let me see your arm. Turn around. >> I know. They probably ask you, right? You didn't touch her at all. >> No, she trying to say I touch I ain't did nothing. >> Is it right here? Looks like a belt. >> Oh, that's fresh. It's wel. I can feel it now. >> Holy crap. Did you cheat you with the belt? >> Yeah. He says she's best for my stuff. >> [ __ ] good. I thought that was like old star. But that is >> she text me while I was at work early talking about I've been messing over her this and that. Then I come home, she just leave the baby sitting on the bed and she take her other little boy with her. Just not mine. >> The small baby is y'all together though. >> Yeah. We just had it on last Tuesday. >> No one on his chest. >> Oh yeah. >> You don't have any other marks on you? >> That that was at 9:24. You can keep your son. It's been the most time you spent with him. That's one time she left and she just got back. I have a question for you. You want to press charges? >> I don't really want to press charges, but >> Well, we're going to pick up charges then. She's prominent aggressor. >> She is drunk. You came in, you was right here. You was on the phone with whoever your home girls, I guess you say you went with and you fell into the wall, then you fell into the other side of the wall. I'm like, man, no. >> Yeah. >> Do you want to press charge? It don't matter if you do or don't. >> That will pick them up. He doesn't. >> She's going to step back after that. >> No, >> that is sister we arrested. You heard what she said when you walked up. You want to go back to jail cuz she know I'm a fella. >> She know well. I mean >> she know I'm a finger. She talking about you want to go back to jail. That's what you going to do. >> You're good, man. You got it. I hate to say it. She tore your butt up. Don't mean to say it like that. Do we have his information? >> I do have his name and date of birth. >> As officers spoke with the mother, long-held emotions came to the surface. Police were required to carefully consider two differing accounts of the situation. >> What started? How did he put his hand on the burn? >> That's how it happened. When I asked for my child, he was like, "You drunk." And I'm like, "I'm not drunk. All I hear is talking for the last five or six minutes." And all I said was, "Give me my baby." So at this point, he turns over to the side. I pull his shoulder. I'm like, "Just give me my baby." You know, like what's what's the problem? Nah, he's sleep. You ain't getting him. You ain't been worried about him since you've been out. First of all, you've been out every weekend ever since I've been pregnant. >> When Christ put his hands on you, man. >> I don't know. When I I don't know. When I asked for my baby, he did like this. to my 2-year-old. He was on this side and he was crying and I'm like, "Dude, just give me my baby. Just give me my baby." He >> ill baby you punch. >> Yeah, he did. He like did this. I don't know. It just kind of hurt right there. I don't know what's right there or not. I'm like, "I'm noting drunk. I don't know why I've been drinking. I've been drinking a little bit, but I'm not drunk enough that I can't handle my baby." He did this and then he goes to get up and he like did this and grabbed my throat, but he like grabbed me and I'm like, "LET ME GO. YOU GOT MY BABY in your hand and you fighting with my baby in your hand." And I'm like, "Hurry, give me my at this point." Like, "Just leave. Give me what I gave you. Well, I didn't give him, but I let him have it. I got kids in the house. >> Now, after that, how did he get business? >> We was fighting like he was hustling in the hallway. He trying to strain me and I'm like, I grabbed the nearest belt. I did. I grabbed the belt that was nearest to me and I like swung at him like, "Let me go with the belt." With the belt. I don't know why. I'm not leather part. You don't know if it was the leather or the metal. >> I don't know. I just hit him with the belt to get off him. I'm like, "At this point, you need to go." >> So, where were y'all wrestling right here? >> That's why this dude right here. He had gave me my baby. I put my baby on the bed. I'm like, "Hurry, just get out." So, he was in the washer getting his clothes or whatever and he grabbed my keys and he was like, "Get my key off your thing." And I'm like, "No, give me my keys because you got A KEY TO MY TRUCK, TOO." LIKE, ALL I DID WAS ASK you to leave because we got a baby and you sitting up here trying to fight. >> So, after all the fighting and stuff happened out here, >> we went outside and put his stuff in the car. That's when y'all pulled up >> and you called us out. >> Mhm. I was on the phone. >> The fight card or the key card or >> It was after the key part. I'm saying which part did you call for keys or the fight in general or >> just the fight in general because he was holding my BABY AND HE WAS STOPPING ME AND then at some point I got my baby going to get back in the bag and he just started going at it and I had him out and then at that point I had the baby just can leave. >> So after the initial fight there was no more fighting what I haven't seen him yet. What is he going to have if any of >> where armed? I don't know because when he had me right here which opened the door all I did was grab the nearest thing that was beside me and I just swung at him for me to get up. I was on this thing right here when I swung like I just swung on the belt so he can get off. >> Slow down. So the injuries he's going to have was from the belt and then occurred when you were on the ground right here on the toe. >> Oh, you were sitting on the toe? Yes. >> Where was the belt at whenever you find it somewhere? Right here. >> Where's the belt at now? This was somewhere over there while you were sitting on the tote and y'all >> I was laying on the tote because you had me pinned down. >> He had you pinned down on the toe. Was he like straddling you or sitting? >> Yeah, like he was trying to hold me down. >> Over you. >> Okay, come back over here. >> I don't know. Like he just was holding. He was like mad. He weren't like strangling me, but he was like trying to hold me down. My knees off to the side or was his knees over you? >> Like his whole body was >> So it's like he was laying on top. Although the man expressed that he did not want the situation to escalate further in family related cases once responsibility is established, officers are required to proceed according to protocol regardless of personal wishes. >> So if anything, grab the belt like you baby or did you just >> No, no, it was like this. It was like this and he was trying to run like when I grabbed the belt, he was trying to run and I just swore I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> But I just I don't know. I think it's fine. And then the phone he got is mine. >> We need to do something about all that. >> Literally, the one time I want to go out, I just I venting and drinking. I mean, and you know, so vent was just being with my best friend that I ain't been with in months. >> This is >> and I come home like >> Who you going out tonight? >> To Eddie and Bose. >> Fast Eddies. >> Fast Eddies and little boy. I didn't even get your name. What's your name? >> Probably. It started way early. I can't even find my phone. >> Yeah. I fight often the first time. >> No, probably the second only because of what happened earlier. >> When was the first? When I was pregnant, >> Miss Marley. Yes, sir. >> Both of them boys, correct? >> Mhm. >> Miss Sam, are both of them his or just one? >> No, just the three week old. >> Okay. Just the three week old is his. >> Uhhuh. >> She's going to jail. All right. >> You got marks all over you, dude. So there it really ain't up to either one of y'all. We have We're required by law to lock the predominant aggressor up, which is her. Now listen, you need to think about what you going to do with these kids. If you going to go to work, if you calling in sick to work or what? She's definitely going. I sit sitting there and listen to what she was telling that other officer [snorts] in there and she's trying to put it all on you. The evidence I'm seeing don't add up to that. You got marks all over you. Your head swelled up. So what you going to do with the kid? Just get that figured out. You're going to go for domestic. So >> what you crying for, dude? >> It ain't up to you. And we told her it ain't your decision. That's the state of Louisiana's decision. So man, if y'all don't got to this point anyway, y'all don't need to be together. >> Miss Tim Sims, can I get you stuff over here for me? You already said calling all over. >> He was having a meeting like with my baby and my husband. >> Give you the opportunity to call mom with the kids. So is he going to jail or? >> No, he's not going to jail. >> He can get the baby. >> He can take care of the kids. >> That's up to you. We don't know if you say he's got to be at work in the morning. >> Work in the morning. >> He going to have to make arrangement for that. >> I guess he can make arrangements for you. >> They're trying to use the opportunity. He's not pressing charges. But look, when it's a domestic, we have to. Okay. So, understand that. out tonight. >> You want to go to BDC? >> You have to go to BDC. >> You know where her wallet is? >> What are you doing? You got a brush. He doesn't know. Is that bag coming with you? Come with him. I'm just laying it out for him. When he come, he going to come. >> You want to put this wallet in there? >> Girl, I don't feel real comfortable leaving your wallet full of money in out there in the mailbox cuz you don't never know. Something somebody like watch may come through here. >> How your money gets stolen? >> Watch out. >> Hello. All right, >> stay right here. Nope, it's wet out there. Hold on. [crying] >> That dude just don't come in here. Hey, you want to come on in here with his kids? She got his daddy is supposed to be coming. >> Get this diaper bag. [crying] >> The mother was charged with domestic violence and child endangerment. Under Louisiana law, she could face a sentence ranging from 6 months to 10 years in prison. In the end, the mother may have been overwhelmed and isolated while the father was worn down by ongoing pressure and in a moment of emotional strain. Both unintentionally affected the family they were [music] trying to protect. This is a story that unfolded in a place meant to be among the safest environments for children, an elementary school classroom. >> Whichever assignment or whatever activity we were doing, he was not doing and he had the thumbtacks in his hand. On November 15th, 2023, a young boy returned home from school with noticeable marks on his arms and legs. When asked about them, he explained that his teacher had used certain classroom items in a manner that exceeded appropriate boundaries. The concern visible on his face prompted his mother to call 911. During the initial review, however, the teacher provided a different account, attributing her actions to the child's behavior and difficulty staying focused. The mother of ever a first grader at Walker Elementary to order the school for scratch mark scratch marks on she's concerned that the marks were affected by the teacher Daniels. The mother also claimed that Daniel used to make the marks on his arm and legs. Speaking of Aloy, he said that Miss Daniels arm and use a push pin to poke him. Amber also said that Miss Daniels used a comb to comb his hair when he is bad and it hurts him. >> So So we have to ask questions in a different way. I have to read you your rights because it's you're not in trouble. This is just policy. So I'm going to read you your rights. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say or do can or will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford attorney, one will be appointed to you. You have the right to have an attorney present during questioning. With all this being said, do you understand your rights? >> Yes. >> Okay. Have you have you at any point ever I mean we know how kids are sometimes they don't listen right? Have you ever at any point had to pull him by his arm? Even if it's not aggressive like bring him somewhere. >> If I did it's with an open hand you know like >> Well, you have to you have to grab him right? >> Mhm. >> Okay. So at any point have you ever pulled him aside? >> I can't say. You mean you're like walking in the line in the classroom? at any point. I know you guys go through, you know, different things where you're going um from point A to point B, whatever it is, taking him to lunch or activities during class cuz he you're saying that he misbehaves a lot. Other kids said the same thing. So, um for you to get his attention, have you ever had to pull him? >> He's always hurry up, Aroy. >> Okay. >> I'm going to do this. A Roy. >> And is he receptive to verbal commands? >> Yeah. After two or three times, yes. >> Okay. Now, you say that he plays around with his hair because it's probably not combed. >> Correct. >> All right. Is there anything else like that is a concern to you with him? >> Well, yesterday he he stated that he didn't have on any underwear, >> but then so all day he's in the class, you know, just >> fidgeting, >> you know, that type of thing. But I mean, I could see there probably wasn't any underwear. But that wasn't my concern. >> Okay. Now, does he allow you to brush his hair? Does he ask for you to or do you offer it or >> No. >> No. What? >> He doesn't offer it. >> He doesn't ask you to. >> Correct. >> Okay. Does he enjoy when you have that, you know, time with him where you're helping him get groomed or does he >> um he he just sat right there? He sat right there. He'll be like And then other than that, he he just sat right there for the first time and the second time. >> Okay. And is this how does this come about? Is it usually in the beginning of class >> when we're doing when it's time to like do Well, one time we was doing I Ready and then it was the second time when he had an assignment to do. >> Okay. Explain to me what I Ready is. I'm not sure. >> It's a computer type of thing where [clears throat] he has to go ahead and log in and work on the computer. >> Okay. Now, um what what is it that is so important with his hair that we have to comb his hair um before an activity or after an >> activ? It's just that I just assumed if that was out of his way, he could focus. >> Okay. How long has he been having this hair distraction? >> Um, he just started doing that. He didn't He normally wouldn't do that. >> Okay. Cuz his hair got longer or something. >> I don't know. No, his hair didn't get longer. >> Has he ever told you to stop combing his hair? >> No. >> And when when you go to comb his hair, whose comb are you using? >> Mine. >> Okay. Now, is that is that permitted here or how does that work? >> No. Well, no. Okay. So, why are we doing it? >> I know that. >> Well, you got to know. >> Oh, for the um so that once that's done, he's looking better, then maybe he can focus more. >> Okay. So, [cough] he's expressed [clears throat] that he doesn't like it. And so, if he's expressing that to us and we're strangers and you see him every day, I'm sure he's expressed that to you. Would that sound fair? >> Yeah. But he has not. >> He's never told you. No. Okay. Um, but you you showed a facial expression where he's just like So that would say, you know, he probably doesn't like it, right? >> That's correct. >> Okay. So, if he doesn't like something, why do we keep doing it? No, I'm asking. >> Yeah, I know. Um, it's only been the two times, the second time. >> Okay. >> That explanation addressed one item, but questions remained about another. >> Now, in reference to the thumb tag, I know you said um you're you're not sure if you poked him. How can you just replay it for me again how that went about? He was sitting at his desk and um my he sits right by right here at my table with me. So he was sitting at his desk and the thumbtacks was on my table. So once I was finished doing whatever I was doing, I didn't even pay attention that they were gone. >> Mhm. >> And when I looked over, he had them like this in his hand and I'm like, "Those are mine. Give those to me." So when I did that, he closed his hand. >> And who's he? >> Avery. Ay closed his hand. So as he closed his hand, I'm like, so I took all the dump. He was like, "Ow, ow." And I put him back on my desk. He said out from them being in his hand because you grabbed his hand. Okay. So, there were multiple thumb tacks in his hand. Have you ever taken the thumbtack out of his hand and maybe swiped swiped him accidentally or >> Okay. >> Not to my knowledge. No. >> Okay. Now, earlier you said not that you know of. So, would it have have been a possibility that you poked him accidentally >> from the hand? >> The hand, the arm, anywhere. I couldn't see that cuz as I took I just all I did was I took them from him >> and that was and I just like that and came on back. So >> has he tried to take your thumb tacks before? >> Anything's on anything on Monday. He'll try to take >> Okay. And have you had issues with him for a long time? >> Which one? >> Has he had behavioral issues in your class for a long time? What's a long time? >> Day two. I'm sorry. School. Day two of school. >> Since day two of school. So August. >> August. And it hasn't improved. >> No, it it'll slow down, then it'll go back. It's like a up and down type of thing. On the fence. >> Okay. Have you have you raised any um concern? I mean, not raised any concern. Have you spoken about your concerns to your staff members about Avoy? >> No. >> And And why is that? >> Because they pretty much already know him. >> Okay. But but you >> Well, that's an assump assumption. >> Yeah. But you've you've been having the same issues with him, right? Since August. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. So, how how would that be uh >> how would we resolve that if we if we're not really communicative, you know? >> Oh, that's true. >> Cuz it seems like it seems like the interactions with you both, it's it's you're not enjoying it, he's not enjoying it. So, us continuously doing it every day, it's it's a little silly. Now, >> mostly. Yes. >> Right. Now you do understand that obviously this is depending on the information that we've received because we have spoken to various children in the class who've witnessed certain things. Some of them told us specifics. So when we ask you questions it's it's to get a little bit more clarity. We have to speak to everybody out of fairness you know and get their side and their point of view. I I'm I'm speaking to you out of respect to hear your perspective, but I expect for you to be honest with me. So, I need to know if anything happened with the thumb tag, you got to be honest with me cuz if if you didn't poke him, your answer wouldn't be not that I know of. You need you know what I'm saying? So, >> you know, a child who's misbehaving, that is very very frustrating. I think we can all agree that is very frustrating, right? So tell me about the thumb tack situation and I need you to be fully transparent. Okay? Because you're the last of what eight kids that we spoke to today, right? So I need you to just let's start over and tell me exactly what happened with the thumbtack. again text was on my table >> and um he was um >> trying to well whichever assignment or whatever activity we were doing he was not doing and he had the thumbtacks in his hand and I was like um oh no a mine then I reached up I reached over for the ts and again he was like out and I'm like oh well sorry but those are my thumb tag so far as like poking him with it or whatever and that's It went in his hand, >> but I don't even know where he would even have scratches of a thumbtack at, >> you know. >> So, you you never try to show him how it felt to get poked by the thumb tack? >> No. >> We all know how they feel. >> He's a young kid, right? >> So, we're we're adults. We've seen them a million times throughout our lives. But he may not know how it feels unless he picks it up being curious. Obviously, he's going to know it on his hand. That's no relation to you. He was a curious kid, grabbed it just like a kid touching a stove. They feel they learn from themselves. But my question is, have you just poked him to show him like, "Yeah, you can't mess with this. This is sharp." >> To like poke him just sticking. >> I need you to be very careful with how you answer this. Okay. >> But I'm trying to I'm trying to >> It's Have you ever poked him with with the thumb tack to show him that he cannot play with this? This is sharp. This is how it feels. So, I'm asking you that and you know why I'm asking you that. We didn't just wake up today and decide to just make up questions. So, I need you to be transparent with me here. >> Did you stick them in? >> After being repeatedly asked to be fully forthcoming, the teacher acknowledged that her approach had crossed professional lines. Her explanation was that she was attempting to get the child to complete the assignment more quickly. >> That's what he said that I poked me. Okay. Yes. >> Okay. And where did you focus? >> Let me give you a call back. >> We already got the first part. So, >> I'm trying to figure it out. >> Let's not go back to not being honest. All right. You're doing good. So, just tell me exactly where you poked him because we already took pictures of everything. So, I'm asking you where did you poke him and how many times and did he understand at that point that this is sharp and he can't play with sharp things. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> So, let's start over. Where did you >> Yeah, I said um >> where where on his arm did you poke him? >> So, once I took the pins I don't >> see a white male last year in a black shirt and black short >> on his arm on him. >> Okay. >> And what did he say to you at that point? He would have said out. He said out. >> And what did you tell him? >> These are mine. >> That these are mine. >> What were you trying to show him when you when you poked him? Like what was the goal at that point? >> To give him my pants. >> So it wasn't anything in regards to um to show the severity of playing with sharp objects. It was just to return your items. >> No severity to return items. Okay. So, I I'll rephrase the question. What was the goal? What was the reasoning for you to poke him? What were you trying to What point were you trying to get across? >> To hurry up and get his work done. Most likely. Yeah. To hurry up and get his work done. >> Okay. And what did he say to you when you poked him? >> Okay. >> Okay. And did he express like he was or it was painful [clears throat] to him? Did he tell you to stop? >> No, >> you didn't say any of that. >> He said, "Okay, okay. Okay." >> Okay. So, when at what point did he say out? cuz you you told me he said ow >> when I was taking him. >> Um, did he at any point ever give you permission to poke him? >> No. >> Did you guys ever have like a game in the past where you're poking each other with the pins? No. Have you ever seen that game played in class? >> Okay. Is it safe to say that usually your pins are in a safe place? >> Yeah, they are. >> Okay. And where do you usually keep your pens? >> In a drawer. In a desk drawer. >> Okay. In a desk drawer. Um, so he he went in inside of your desk drawer. I had them on my desk. I had them on the table there. They weren't safe because I had them out. I was using them. >> Does that happen often? >> No, only when I'm hanging up stuff. >> Okay. Um, have you ever tried to Has has this Let me just get straight to point. Has this occurred with any other child? >> No, >> just this specific child. Okay. And um would it be fair to say it gets frustrating dealing with this child? >> It would. Yes. >> Okay. So, that's fair to say? >> Yes. >> All right. Do you think that you're you need assistance with this child being in your class? Okay. Is is this a um good time to uh request help with this child? Okay. How do you feel with your career today? >> Oh, okay. I'm great. >> When do you retire? >> Two more years. >> Okay. Two more years. All right. Are you looking forward to retirement? >> Um not really. >> Okay. You enjoy being here? >> I do. >> All right. That's good. >> In fact, [music] she had never previously experienced issues with co-workers, parents, or students families. However, [music] after this incident, that record may no longer remain unchanged. Her professional future could also be significantly impacted. >> Have you ever had any um any issues with staff here? >> No. >> Okay. Any issues with parents? >> No. >> Do you know um did you have history with this child before this year? >> No. So this year in August was the first time you met this this child? >> Yes. >> Okay. Do you know the parents? >> No. >> Have you met ever met any of his family members? >> No. >> Um you don't have any problems with his family? >> No. >> No. >> Okay. >> I don't know the >> Okay. All right. I thought you were going to say not that I know of. So >> um Okay. Is there Did I miss anything? Okay. All right. Well, you've been super helpful. I appreciate you being honest with me. Do you have any questions for me? Okay. Do you think you'll be um speaking to somebody soon? I know we have the principal here. So, this is almost like a cry out for help. Is it? >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, she hears you. So, um I'm sure she's going to do her due diligence. >> Put Aroid back in your room. He's next door cuz Miss Ly's in there. So, at least Anderson has a teacher assistant. So, I put him there. He doesn't know that's going to be his permanent place. He just thinks he's there for the day until I talk to his parent. Anderson doesn't know it's permanent either, but I will tell her because um >> Okay, thank you. >> Thank you. >> I think we're good. I think you can return to your duties. >> After consulting [music] with school administration, police proceeded according to established procedures, serving as a reminder for anyone working with children. >> So, I had an incident last week where a parent came in to say that one of the teachers poked her son with a thumbtack and um that Okay. Yeah. And so then today Sephus came cuz Sephus took the case and they of course have to have police with them when they're talking to the kids the and the teacher and then the teacher admitted to the police officers that yeah stabbed him with the ord. So they want they're going to arrest her. And after that, once you do, feel free to answer everything. [music] >> Right here. All right. Palms together. Palms together. As we discussed earlier, you're going to be charged with chargers and battery. Okay. We don't want you to get wet. So, let me just You don't have to lean all the way in, but I'm going to still pat you down. All right. Spread your feet. We're going to take your property in front of you. We're going to put it in a property bag. Okay. Go ahead and sub. >> Okay. Miss Daniels, we spoke about this earlier. You read your Miranda. Do you recall that? >> Yes. >> Okay. And you confirmed that you understood your your Miranda rights? >> Yes. >> Okay. Earlier when I asked you how many times did you use the thumbtack to poke Avery, the the victim? How many times? >> Three. >> Okay. Three total times. Yes. >> Okay. And was this consistent on the same day or throughout different days? >> Same day. >> Okay. Did he ever give you any permission to put your hands on him or touch him in any way? Okay. In reference to combing his hair, you mentioned earlier today in the classroom that he never asked you to comb his hair. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. And do you ever ask her for for permission to comb his hair? >> No. >> Okay. Where is that comb that you use? >> In my desk in my in my classroom. >> Okay. Is your classroom Does it contain your name on it on the exterior? No. >> What is there a classroom number? >> 131. >> 131. Okay. Can you describe this comb to me, please? >> It's red with um it's a skinny red long. It's about probably about 4 in. >> Okay. And it's going to be in the desk in your office in your classroom. I'm sorry. Okay. Um, how many times have you combed his hair? >> Twice. >> And this these were different days, >> correct? >> Okay. Um, was this recently? >> Only last 3 weeks? 2 and a half? 3 weeks? >> Last two and a half or 3 weeks. Okay. Um, did he ever at any point show that he disliked you combing his hair? >> He just said out. >> Okay. And would you would it be fair to say that he probably disliked it? >> He did not like it. >> Okay. All right. And and you continue to comb his hair >> after the second time. No. >> Okay. So after the second time, meaning >> that was it. >> All right. So the the first time he he >> didn't say anything. It was the second time. >> Okay. All right. I got you. Is there any other comments that you want to make? >> No. >> All right. I appreciate it. Thank you. >> No problem. >> The teacher faced a criminal charge of child in most US [music] states. This offense can carry a potential sentence of up to 5 years in prison. It is hoped that [music] following this incident, schools will strengthen oversight while also paying closer attention to educators psychological well-being so that no child has to return home carrying experiences they should never have to bear. This time a young child was found wandering [music] on the street. >> I DON'T KNOW CUZ HIS DADDY VERY OVERPROTECTED. SO I KNOW he closed that door. So how did he get out? On April 22nd, [music] 2025, police received an urgent call about a child seen on a busy road without adult supervision. Before officers arrived, a nearby church had taken the child in and helped [music] search for the family. When contacted, the mother seemed surprised, as if unaware her child had left the house. >> Hello. Missing a child. >> Where my baby? >> Yeah, he's over here at the church. >> Are you serious? My little baby? >> Yeah. >> He didn't got out the back door. >> Yeah. Uh >> Montana, he darn scared. Yeah, he's he's in a diaper. >> He's in a diaper. >> The damn back door. The back door can't open. Is y >> Oh, I mean >> Oh my goodness. Where he at? My >> So the people who found him >> What's in the world? >> We got We got a call from somebody. Somebody here went to Walmart or something. I don't know. >> Everybody know something. They said he was mad cuz they he they were always right here. But not without me. But here's somebody. They got >> Yeah. The Yeah, they got hit in the >> tri all the time. No, I got a back protector back there. Everything. >> Oh my god. My baby could have got >> They said they stopped him from getting to uh He said they said he started running towards division. So, >> where he at? Oh my god. >> Is he still in there? >> Oh my god. How the he get out? >> I got there. She was sleeping. So, uh, she was on the couch laying down. Um, you'll have her for child all day. You have to? >> No. But, you know, >> it sounds like this isn't the first time. >> Yeah. So, yeah. The one lady, I don't know if you took any statements from anybody. I didn't. >> Okay. So, I I'll get statements for you. Um, if you just want to handle her, but one of them said I they had to stop him from getting to division, running across division. Yeah. I will take the statement from one of them and uh we'll go from there. >> NTA for >> Yeah, it's NTA for uh child. >> Yeah. If you just look up child, see us the life and health of a child. That's it. Yeah. Go with her. >> Oh god, man. >> The mother later suggested that [music] her older son may have opened the door, allowing the younger child to run outside. >> Thank y'all so much. I'm so sorry I had to go through that myself, too. >> Oh my god. Did you serious? So, can you come to my house because I need to show you this. I'm so confused because I I GOT A COW UP. NO, I DON'T KNOW CUZ HIS DADDY VERY OVERPROTECTED. SO I KNOW HE closed that door. So how did he get out? >> SO SOMEBODY DID YOU GO DOWNSTAIRS AND OPEN the door? >> No. I said >> cuz you was down there from school. >> I closed it. >> Is you sure you haven't opened it? >> No. >> How the baby open? >> My mama. I'm telling you I didn't open. I'm telling you. >> I really up the walls. My baby. >> Oh my god. >> No. I could >> We got cameras in the house. We don't got nothing outside. >> I'm like over being a parent, man. This is crazy because I'm right here in the living room. Nobody getting out that door, RIGHT? I'M NOT I'M NOT THINKING TO GO UP to check nothing CUZ MY DAD MAYBE DADDY KNOW to close the THE BACK DOOR. >> YEAH. >> I got to show you this. IS THE BACK DOOR UNLOCKED, BABE? Cuz he couldn't get from me cuz I'm right there on the couch when the officer came. >> IT'S UNLOCKED. I closed it. >> It's closed. >> My child was in my room. He was right there in that room. So, move y'all. >> We got a camera right here though. >> You can see everything. We got a camera RIGHT THERE. >> MY BABY. GO TO YOUR BROTHER WHILE I tell the officer this. Look. That's how I know my son came down here and opened the door. >> Okay. Cuz it's got the child lock on it. >> Yeah. Look. >> Yeah. >> And my baby daddy gone. His bike be right here. It's electric. And he had to mo >> cuz the baby can't get out of here. He can't get out of here. Look, >> proof right there. >> All right. What's your name? >> My son came down here and opened the door and I showed like, "Didn't your daddy tell you to come stay from the back there?" He was like, "Yeah." I said, "When you going to learn to stay from back there?" He was like, he gave me a smart answer. I said, "Keep playing with me." Cuz um he gave me a smart answer. Whole time. That's when he probably had that door kind of unlocked. >> What's your middle initial? >> Relieved the child was safe. She's still worried about what could have happened. While police said DCFS would handle the case, >> Satana, do not come out the house, baby. GOING TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW HE GOT OUTSIDE. GET back here. Nico, open that back door. He just not admitting it. Go ahead, baby. Go in there. Sit down. >> All right. So, you're you're saying you were asleep. All the doors were shut. >> I didn't check that out. I was up. I seen him when he came to my door. I just ran to it. >> So, y'all were the doors were shut locked and you think somebody opened the back door and he he walked out. >> Just argue with him for coming down here type. You see his daddy stuff down here, right? Put his stuff up. So, I'm like, WHY YOU GO DOWN THERE? I JUST >> ALL RIGHT, MAN. SO, so what's going to happen today is we're going to I'm going to write up a notice to appear, okay, for child arrangement, okay? So, you're not going to be custodially arrested, okay? But, uh, you will have a court date and we're going to have to call DCFS cuz this isn't the first time as well that the kid has gotten out, okay? I don't know what your personal situation and solution to that problem is. So, we'll get get that paperwork ready for you. All right? And then uh so you'll have a court date. You can probably expect to have uh DCFS probably call tomorrow. Okay? It don't make no dangle sense. >> Yeah. >> So, I'll be right back with you. Okay. Shana, >> that don't make no He going to leave me alone. >> Realizing the seriousness, the mother tried to explain and admitted the child had run outside several times before. >> And the second time, um, two dogs had came in my backyard and my baby was while we was talking TO THE POLICE, MY BABY RAN off and I was too busy talking to the police about the two dogs that ran in my yard and almost got my baby. MY BABY HAD end up running off and the police FELT THEM LIKE YOUR BABY RIGHT HERE. I'M LIKE, "OH MY GOD, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE WAS GONE." SO THAT THAT WAS RIGHT AWAY. HEY, HELLO. So soon as uh the police officer walked away from talking to me about the dogs, HE WAS LIKE, "YOUR BABY RIGHT HERE." SO THAT was end up being a mindblowing thing cuz we was too busy talking to the police about the dogs and it was >> I'm not judging you. We're just We just got to make a report and tell you I'm glad you're doing your job. >> I'm glad you're doing your job. DCF had to Yes. DCF had to come. Why they came? Oh, yeah. Because my husband came and got me from Goodwills my job. IT WAS REAL DARK. SO, THE CAR HAD WENT DOWN. SO, I WAS LIKE, "BABY, it's too dark. Can you please come get me?" He got the electric bike, right? So, I shot the police officer. I shot the police officer when I called him. And >> you got to get together with your husband, figure things out about >> I got the protective life backed up. My son opened the door. That's all he did. >> Well, I know, but he gets real busy right over there, >> man. Yeah, good. >> You don't understand what I'm feeling right now. >> Well, I don't. >> You don't. >> In the end, police chose not to arrest her on the spot, but issued a summon for court to proceed under regulations. >> So, like I said, you got to show up, too. >> What's that? Um, >> your father got to show up, too. >> Not as of right now. Um, if if they show up with me, I have to do this by myself. >> If they send you a subpoena, they'll send him one too if they if the state attorney determines that they need to talk to him as well. >> Do you guys need to talk to the father? Is everything okay? No, he's he's the the baby's safe at home, everything. Um I understand that children are will do what they do and they're they're hard to keep track of. But >> not when you in control. You see I'm in control cuz I got the door lock back there. >> Yeah, I understand. >> That's what makes me really angry. And then my son lying right in our face like I told him stop doing that. I told him stop looking at me. >> Do not miss that court date. Okay. >> Not to miss that court date or you can get a warrant. So just make sure you make it to court. >> Oh yeah. You have to you have to come up to get fingerprinted. >> For what? >> Sometime soon. Hopefully today because of the level of charge that it is. >> What? >> It's a It's a class A. So, we have to get fingerprinted. Okay. >> Everything changed with that safety act. We're not going to take you from the kids today, but when you get time, just let them know you need to be fingerprinted for a case and they'll they'll take like 5 minutes. It'll be pretty quick. >> I got you. Can I got to go today? Can I go tomorrow in the morning? >> You can go tomorrow. >> For real. I swear to God, go. I just came back from the hospital. I try to take care of myself. My kid is sick. So I'm like, "Okay, now it's my turn to take care of myself." >> As soon as possible, please. >> Man, thank y'all so much for not, you know, taking this around. >> I'll go get Andrew. They both called in. >> Okay. >> The mother was charged with injuring [music] the life or health of a child. Under Illinois law, the penalty can include up to one year in jail or probation along with a fine of up to $2,500. Although unintentional, the mother's negence could still create potential safety risks for the child. Can you believe that in just a few hours, one mother could turn an ordinary day into a chain of complex and challenging events? A traffic incident. Children left without supervision and heated arguments. >> She was acting like she was drunk >> and she needs to take her medicines for she can not act bad like that. >> On September 18th, 2023, police received three separate reports involving the same woman in a single day. The first was about a truck that had been in a traffic collision with another vehicle. At the scene, officers collected information from both the driver and the other party involved. >> You don't have a driver's license. >> I was telling him that my mother just got out of hip surgery and she took care of me and my daughter and the driver. >> I also did tell him my uh replacement. Other than that, um I do not have his vehicle. My mom just had her Yes. And as soon as I get home, I go everywhere. You want me to go ahead and do a report on it? She doesn't have a driver's license. I do need it. I have that camera footage. I unplugged it, but I believed it. >> I don't know if you need this. >> Yeah, the insurance registration driver's license. It happened in the parking lot. >> No, it happened back there in front of uh like where used to be. So, what happened? >> Pardon? >> What happened? >> We were now straight probably right around where the uh old end was and I was behind the right lane. Kind of going slow and then I just heard this. I guess somebody else saw it or you How did you guys find out? I didn't call the police. >> Somebody called me. >> All right. >> Not long after, another report came in. A young child had been left unattended inside a truck near a school. When officers arrived, the mother was no longer at the scene, prompting an urgent search. Hello, man. >> Police department. >> All right. So, what you got? >> Hello. >> Police department. >> That's the margarita. >> I'm pretty sure. All right, this quick. Hi. >> Where's the child? >> Come on back. >> Okay. >> This is mom in the waiting room, and we just weren't sure what we were allowed to do or not do, but uh the child is with Mr. So to our counselor. You want me to take you out down there? >> Sure. Yeah. >> Let's go this way. >> Do you have an idea, man? I couldn't think she's a grandma to the child. >> So that's the van. >> Uhhuh. >> Okay. Hi. >> Oh, hello. >> How you doing today? >> Hey. Um, what's your mom's name? Do you know where she's at? >> No. >> Did she tell you where she was going? >> Has your mom been acting off today or >> in the morning? She was acting fine. She was acting like she went drunk and like >> she was acting like she was drunk >> and she needs to take her medicines for she can like not act bad like that. >> Okay. What medicine does she take? Do you know? >> Does your mom usually drink alcohol? >> No, she doesn't. >> No. You said if she doesn't take her her medicine, she acts drunk. >> So, you live with your grandma? >> Mhm. >> What's your grandma's name? >> Okay. Are you doing okay right now? >> Mhm. >> All right. Well, you're in good hands. Okay. Just give us a little bit more time. and we're just uh we're just trying to make sure everything's okay. >> Almost at the same time, another police unit was dispatched to a different location after reports linked the same woman to a conflict. >> Come here. >> Me and my daughter moved here. Hey, she's here. >> Um, >> so what was your name again? >> Margarita. >> What was your 20? >> Officers work to reassure the child and locate a trusted relative to provide care. >> Well, I have an officer over here. >> Yeah, he came I think when they reported the accident. >> Okay. Well, I know that's that's grandma. >> And she just said that they live with grandma. She did say that was her mom could have left her. I guess not. I don't know if Lindy talked to her. She was Lindy was out there with him. The principal, she was out there with him and she had talked to her for just a second and then she took off. >> So I talked to child. They have her fear. >> The the school. >> Yeah, the school. They're not going to release her. >> At the same time, the mother appeared to be in a difficult state and provided inconsistent information. >> She's at the Hill Street. >> Nice. right there. I'm dressed and I told her that's going to be affirmative. She's >> I told her I was doing >> Let me figure out what I'm doing. >> She was like, "Oh, blah blah. You have a daughter?" I was like, "I do." And she has a daughter. She That's my dad. >> Yes, sir. She moved from >> and I told that my daughter and me and you go back and forth. >> She's like, "Yes, but when me and my daughter went to her like, okay, we'll take care of her." >> I'll advise when I get back. >> Can I see him? >> Of course. >> 86 214. >> I'm sorry. Can I tell you guys something? >> Can I see the keys for you? >> They're in the van. >> They're in the van. I'm sure you told me >> my dad >> and then they calling now. >> So what happened to your face? Why are you all? >> Yeah. Well, because this idiot I told him I came over here and I was like besides my home girl you get home. My turn was already just a mess and she's been hitting for 9. I told her like if you give them I'm going to call the police. I will call the police cuz I do not give a and she started in my face and I told her I don't give a type of my mom sitting at home. >> How did you get that in your face >> from this? >> Did he hit you or anything? >> He started catching me talking about that. But I'm calling the police because I'm out of my right. I'm like I'm out of right mind. I better drink a little and then but you have and you and my neighbor sister cuz you know that you like >> the situation became more complicated when some relatives expressed concern with police keeping the child for safety. >> We find her on 15 for run for >> they have her. They said she's on abandonment. Who has her? >> I don't know. Ask her 20. I think they said Hill Street. They lied to me. I came >> is with my mom. How are we supposed if she leaves there without her? Then that's me and that's not what's happening here. >> Okay. Well, we still have an investigation to do. As far as we were advised, Margarita was in a crash. She left the child in the vehicle and she just left the scene. >> That's right. But the child is in the care of my mother, so she's there. >> I understand that. And I will go ahead and release the child once everything is said and done and we figure everything out. which is when and where is my niece? >> Your niece is here at the school. >> Okay, but my mom and my sister are going to stay there until that happens. They're not going nowhere. >> And that's perfectly fine. The child's staying until until everything's fine. We have some things to figure out. The child's not going to go anywhere until then. >> Hi. What do you all need for someone to pick a child up? >> The car tabs. She was coming in to just check her out. We're going to look at the emergency card and if they're on the list. We also use pick my kid. Each family gets two cards. They give those card tags to who they want to pick their child up. >> So, she was either on the list or had a card. >> She gave her a card. >> At the same time, authorities worked with a man connected to the case to clarify details. >> Not another day. Call the Call the police because her husband they're good with her number. So I came over here and I told him get my tr I swear to God I did say out the out my porch brother. >> Hey Gary Gary. What's going on man? >> I don't know. I was just sitting here talking to the post office >> about stolen mail. The girl comes walking from over there. She's mumbling words to me. >> Right. So, I'm just looking at her and I said, "Is she coming over here? She walked right up here, but I had to throw my stuff. I had to her out of the house." >> She came in your house? >> Yes. Look, look. She grabbed me and I was telling 911 she me. So, the phone fell out of here and I her out of the house. >> How do you know her? >> I don't know her. >> You have no idea who she is? >> I swear to God, I don't know who she is. She's making Spanish and she going to come back. She's got family. It's going to me up. So, I want protection here because my life has been thrown before already. >> Did she actually went in your house? >> Look, look at my mail. Yes, she did. I had to get her from here and her back. Look where she grabbed me. Now, why would I want to beat somebody for? Right. >> I'm not that person. >> What happened? So, she grabbed >> she grabbed me from with her nails. So, I grabbed her from the hair and then I her off and then I tried to keep her down and I was calling 911. >> Yeah. >> And then I had to drop off the phone. She told me to go back inside. So, I did because I don't want to get in trouble. >> So, you stayed inside and she stayed out here >> and she and then she grabbed my stuff from there the salon throwing them saying that she's going to come back with family. So, that has to go. I didn't touch her. I was just protecting myself. >> Yeah. So you didn't basically threw her out after she had already got inside. >> Yeah. She I had this stuff in my hand writing down stuff from the post office. I was writing down some phone numbers for stolen mail. And I said, "What is she saying?" >> You mind if I take some pictures of you, Gary? >> Go ahead. >> All right. >> From my um older right here. >> Is he like a friend of theirs? >> Yeah. >> And then you're in front of them. He not anymore. But he took her my my daughter one time when she came down from Pasadena and I was like, "Hey, I have to work." So my daughter said, "Yes, I picked her up after my sister." Those are experiences because me and my sister were trying to do what I have to do. But I >> What happened to you? >> That guy right there. I live before you're my older sister in the first 6 years. >> From their observations, officers observed that the mother appeared to be under the influence which contributed to the difficulty of managing the situation. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law. The reason why I'm here with you today is because we were dispatched to the Desert Willow Elementary School. I guess there was a ve there was a collision in the back end of the school involving a white Ford van and another vehicle. And your child is inside of the van. >> Not inside. Not inside at all. Okay, let's talk a little bit about that. What do you What do you know about that? >> My mom asked me for to go get egg, ham, baloney, and bread. >> Eggs, ham, baloney, and bread. Okay. >> Our daughter, which she always gets after um for all. >> Where was your daughter at? >> On white on the Desarella hike. >> The Deserella school. Yes, sir. So, I had things and they're already in the bag, which is red, baloney, and ham. Are those groceries still in your van? >> Yes, sir. But I must admit I am not driving. You get that? My mom took my car. She stole my mom from school. Well, since you took her >> by any chance, are there groceries inside of the van? >> Right here. >> Oh, yeah. >> Stock is right here. It broke off right here. Yes. Right here. >> So, you went and got some groceries from all and then you went to go pick up your daughter from Denver. >> No. No. It was about to be time. I got pulled over because I pulled into a a truck a car park. Uh truck. >> Let's talk about when you picked up your daughter from the >> All my because I pulled >> I thought you said you >> on the train track on the trucks where I hit the you get that other truck where you were going to pick her up from. Yes. You drove over there to go pick her up. You just didn't get her yet. >> That was whatever it is. Yeah, that was earlier today though, right before you came here and you got into an altercation with this guy. Where were you coming from? >> I was going to pick up my um daughter. >> Your daughter from the Desert Willow School, right? >> Did you walk over here or >> How did you get here? >> No, I had the >> You had the truck. Which truck? >> The van. >> Where's the van at? Let me ask you something, Margarita, real quick. Have you been drinking today? >> At this point, though, right? >> Yeah, you're right. >> It's not illegal for you to drink, but have you been drinking? >> It is. I'm driving. >> You're driving, right? But have you been drinking? >> Yeah. And I the book is meant to be. What do you feel? My >> Do me a favor, Wayne, and take a photo of that, please. >> Yes. Take a sex photo. >> How much have you had to drink? >> Hold on. I didn't pick the first one. The first >> It's okay. Just click. >> The first day after my mom after mom was like, "Why you pick up Jenny?" cuz they know I don't my sister my two sister they called me and they were like well we have to my niece uh to school by like 7 a.m. Fine. >> So, I don't want you walking around barefoot. So, put your shoes on. >> You got that hurt like that real quick. You need help, bro. >> Put your Nikes on. >> Do you get that though? >> Yes, ma'am. >> That did hurt because we're supposed to be a family. We get that, right? >> Hey, don't fall. Relax. We're lean on the car. Okay. >> So, listen. Go to school. >> We have your daughter. Okay. So, your daughter's in good hands right now. >> Where is she? >> She's at the school. And your mom is there and your sister is the one. >> I can smell I can smell the alcohol in your breath. When asked to undergo a medical check to assess her condition, the mother reacted strongly and resisted. >> My twin sister, >> your twin sister's at the school with your daughter. >> Yes. She drinks way much more than she drinks more. >> She has a way. >> So look, we're going to do some we're going to do some standardized field sobriety tests. Okay. >> Yes. Please do that. And I don't care. >> So go ahead and step over here with me. >> Oh, you don't understand where I'm coming from. >> Is this your shirt, babe? >> Is this your shirt? >> Yes. >> That's cool. >> Go ahead and put your shirt on for Do you understand my twin and my daughters? That's my only mother daughter. But I realized it's a lot. >> Yeah, >> it's a lot of responsibility. That [ __ ] my heart. Do you get that? >> Hey, look. The >> the ambulance is here. M. >> Your nose is all >> my good cuz that me. >> It was something right here >> because >> Yeah, we're we're investigating. Let them check you out. Okay. But he come here. >> When I was here, >> I've been here 9 years ago. Please, baby. >> I introduced him. >> My twin. Shut the up to my twin. Introduced her. >> Okay. >> You do not want to understand. >> They're here to look at you. >> Them right here. I will get them. You will not >> understand. >> Let them talk to you. My family, my daughter that comes first. Yes, ma'am. Yes. Mita, >> I understand. Can you let them look at you? >> Yes. But do you understand what the only reason I stopped here? I introduced like a idiot came to her. She can't go talk to them. >> Please don't talk to these people. Turn around. >> Turn around. >> Yes. Look, they're >> turned. They're here to >> I cartel my parents but that's me [ __ ] >> SHUT THE up my twin my and I tried to change my voice in my face. Margarita relax. >> Can you watch your partner? >> Yeah. >> While she admitted that she was driving, she was admitting that she was drinking because her >> and then they did actually pull her eyes. There was another collision that shows over there described her red hair. >> At the same time, the school had to handle a tense situation with some relatives who were uncooperative. >> That's her mom. She needs to go home with us. We're not going to freaking leave on the phone. >> This is her aunt. This my sister, but she has every right. That's true. They did lie and we're not going to leave. I'm sorry. My mom >> who lied. >> I'm trying to I came here to pick up my niece. I am on the list. I came in here, you know, my kids. They all lied to me. What time did you pick come to pick? >> So you never seen her ever in your life. >> Swear to God. Swear to God. She make she's got family that's going to come and me tonight with Got. So >> So whenever you threw her out, you were holding down. They told you to go inside. >> Yep. And I did. >> Did she go inside? >> She came right after me. So I locked the door. I said, "Oh my god." So I went and got this stick just in case she pushed the door open. I couldn't lock it cuz >> So she was going inside. That's when you lock the door open. >> Well, she came inside. I had this on my head writing down the pickles. I was writing down information for the post office. SO I DROPPED IT and then I slammed the door again. And then that's when I went to lock the door and then when she walked off, I opened the door. Watch where she was going to. You know, I'm not a person. >> Yeah. No, you're not. >> And my clothes came off in Artisia. So I got arrested for for indecent exposure. It's all a bunch of man. >> Got you. cuz I'm not that crazy person that's putting me out today. >> I know. I know. I know. I >> This is the second woman. >> Do me a favor. Let me go real quick to my Because you're gonna want something done with this. >> I want to arrest it. >> Just wait for me here. Uh me and the officer going to go talk and then that way I want protection. I want security because let me tell you something. My life has been threatened already. I haven't showered in about a week because I'm under stress, man. I'm under a lot of stress. You know, my family thinks I'm really got the support. Step by step, the units worked in coordination. The mother was soon taken into custody after failing to follow police instructions during a sobriety test. >> Put your feet together. Relax. I want you to put your feet together like this for me. >> My twin. I already have a twin. >> Put your feet together for me. >> Yes, sir. >> Keep your arms down to your sides. All right. All I need you to do is look at my finger. Look at the tip of my finger and stay still. >> Go. My twin. >> Put your feet together. Keep your arms down to your sides. I do not have no problems. >> Well, we'll do this really fast. All right. So, put your feet together. Look at my finger. And I want you to keep your eyes on my finger. Keep your head still. Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. Look at my finger. >> You have no piece for me, >> Margarita. Look at my finger for me. Look at my finger right here. Keep your arms onto your sides for me. Look at my finger. Keep your arms to your sides. Look at my finger. Look at my finger. Hey, keep your eyes on my finger. >> All right, we're going to do the the next test. Okay, >> what's the next test? >> It's the walk and turn test. I want you to go ahead and picture an imaginary line in front of you. All right. Can you do that for me? >> Well, I don't know. All I know my love for my >> Okay, my sister. We we'll talk about your sister in a little bit. >> My niece, my nephew, my daughter. >> Place your left foot on the line. Margaret, place your left foot on the line >> and place your right foot in front of your left foot just like I'm doing. >> What the point is this? I told you. >> It's to determine whether you've been driving under the influence. >> Yes, I have. >> Okay, turn around for me. You're under great. My daughter have a better surroundings on her. With many parties involved, from family to the victim and the mother, police face difficulties controlling the situation. >> Pockets cuz she grabbed my pocket. >> Oh, the whole pocket right here. Let me see. This is her shirt. >> I get a phone call cuz it ain't mine. That's why I grabbed her to throw it away from my house. You know what I mean? Cuz I was sitting here and I was on the phone like this and and I see her walking. I said, "Well, who the hell is she talking to?" >> This one right here cross the tree of that tree. No, no, no, no. If you don't do nothing about it when I got the not connect to Mexico. Should I >> stay still? >> Should I >> stay still? >> That house in front of me plane. >> All right. Come on. We're going to >> my family. Yes. Please do it. I started gone when I get the tree right there and that one. >> The one that picture of Margie, right? Margarita. Is that right? >> She said that mom had a hurt leg and told her to come get him. To come get Jenny. That's what she said. >> But she has the car tag. Does you give her the car? Yes. Yes. She's worried that if she's not with her at home that she could get the biggest challenge came from the mother who kept refusing to cooperate, adding to the tension. What the? >> Stay right here. >> You never had a family. I never knew what the I would be. >> Okay. >> But I want you to look back on if I am your soldier. >> All right. All right. >> Well, we're tired of my family. You don't know who the [ __ ] am I? Repeat after me. Repeat after me. >> I'll repeat after you if you will. >> Margarita, sit down, please. >> Talk. >> Yes. Sit down for me, please. >> You don't have my back. >> Yes, I have your back. Sit down. Sit down for me. >> Say it. Sit down for me. Right here on the seat. >> WELL, I CAN'T. >> WHY CAN'T YOU? >> HELENA CAN'T. >> NO. DON'T PUT your hand. >> I have to help me. COME HERE. COME HERE. >> Put them back in the back. >> How the do you think I can't come here? >> They don't go like that. Well, then help me. >> You put yourself in that situation. >> Help. It's not my fault. >> Sit down. Come here. >> I am a billion. >> Sit down right there. You are a queen. Okay. Sit down. >> Yeah. Are you saying that to most? >> Sit down. >> Say that to us. >> Sit down. Okay. Now put your hands. >> You have what? Give me a hand. >> Say the out of her. >> Hey, stop. >> Say the out of her. The only one I have problem with with you. Medina. >> You have a problem with me? I've been >> Yeah, because of my sisters. >> I've been nice to you. >> Yeah, nice work here and there. >> Hey, stop doing that. >> Quit before I tie your feet. >> While school staff explained the pick my kids system to police to ensure student safety. The mother gave fragmented stories unrelated to the case. >> I'm just afraid that if she leaves and then she >> So, what's the deal with a car tag? So, our car, >> we have the the um it's a pick my kid system. It's a whole little like program that we use and it assigns a number to a student and that's how we like match up the parents ID with the students tag that we match the numbers and that's how we know we're giving them to the right adult. So, at the beginning of the year, we were we gave every parent two tags and those were their two tags. So, like if I needed a friend to go pick up my daughter, I would tell my tag and I would say, "Hey, I need you to go pick up my kid cuz I'm out of town. Can you go get her for me?" And I would give my friend the tag which would match up with my kid. >> Is that like a like a tangible thing or >> Yeah, it's like a piece of paper like it's like this. And we have them color coded by the grade levels. >> And so then it kind of just has the kids information. It will have like the kids' name, their teacher, and then their number. They're assigned a number. >> Yes. Relax. Relax. Open your mouth for me. Let me see. Do you have any gum? >> Do you have any gum or anything? >> I'm drunk. >> Open your mouth, please. >> And I'm not scared to walk in. >> Okay. Open your mouth. Thank you. But if you can start a 20-minute dip. >> Okay. So, um I I appreciate your patience, okay? I'm not saying don't be mad. I understand emotions are high. Unfortunately, in my job, sometimes my investigations, they take a little bit of time. What's the child's name again? I'm sorry. She's going to be fine to go. >> Okay. >> Just in my job, I have to document. I have to I have to report everything. Okay? I can't just release a child to someone because emotions are high. >> Margarita, listen. >> Cars look bad. You guys know what Cars represents? We're on the map. >> No, no, no, no. Listen to me. I'd like to tell you something about representing Mexico to take this independent test. You have the right to arrange a licensed nurse or laboratory technology employed by a hospital to perform [laughter] an additional chemical test. The cost of this additional test will be paid for by the law enforcement agency. Do you agree to take our test? >> Do you agree to take our test? >> Yes, baby. I'm so >> Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm Margarita. >> Do you agree to take our test? >> Say my name at the name of Sir. >> Hey, I have heard your name before. >> So, listen. We're going to do a test. >> No. Even if I say 30 minutes, 30 miles. Just >> relax. >> Police then announced the decision to detain the mother for further investigation. >> Thank you. I'm going to make sure her name is on her. I mean, tell me. >> So, the phone number that you call 911, is that is that a good phone number for you? >> Okay. What's going to happen? Like I said, we're going to go take her to jail. She's arrested for this and some other stuff. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Look, what was her excuse for for for coming over here? >> Like I said, she's not making any sense. >> I know. Then she grabbed my stuff trying to throw my stuff and I'm looking at her thinking, my family already thinks I'm crazy. His father-in-law thinks that that I'm off my rocker. No support. >> If anything, call us back. All righty. All right, Gary. Have a good one. Okay. Thank you for changing the life. >> Yes, sir. >> Even at the station, police had to intervene to manage the situation. >> I'm going to go down here. Okay. >> Watch your step. Don't fall. >> I CAN'T. >> WATCH YOUR STEP. >> Help me. >> Well, you keep walking away from me. >> Let's go. We're going to go through this door right here. >> I'm so drunk. I hate it. I hate you. >> You're so drunk. >> It's cuz your life is so good. that don't need me cuz you're going to get in trouble. >> Yeah, I love photos. >> Quit. I'm going to go in this room right here to the left. >> Well, what the monster? >> I'm going to turn the lights on for you. >> Are you? >> Yes. >> Where are they? >> They're over there. Sit down. Don't Hey, I need to put your hand in this cuff. Don't resist. Thanks. >> Hey, I need to put your hand in this. >> Don't yank on it cuz you're going to hurt yourself. >> That's good. And then >> just wait right there. Okay. Well, how long are you? >> You're going to >> Okay. >> Do you think I about my mommy and my raising her? Do you >> 01124? Um, >> if you can send me the entrance info. >> I'm just eating the Hey, >> hey, relax. >> Relax. Relax. >> You're not going to be throwing [ __ ] Okay. So, put pressure on her nose. >> Oh, you only have one left. >> Yeah. See, your left nostril, your right one. There's tissue right there somewhere. So, we can grab a tissue and we'll put a we'll stuff one up in for now. >> All right. Got a pretty >> got your gloves on rod and then we'll just stuff one in her nose for now. You got to relax. We're going to clean your face up. All right. But you can't make sure this way. >> You're Yes. You're making it difficult for yourself. So stand up. There you go. Can I have relax? Okay. Just relax. Ready? Do you have white? >> Do you want to blow one more time in your nose? Cuz that's where all the blow at least. So you can hold it. Okay. It's going to be in your right one. Hey, if I give you the chair, you're not going to do that again. >> No, we're not giving her a chair. Okay. >> Put this in your nose. >> Yeah. >> You can't do yourself or you want me to hit it with the other hand and put it in yourself. >> Amid the chaos, authorities stayed calm and carried out the necessary legal procedures. >> And then just pay some orgarita. Grab the grab that black hose for me. Grab the black hose for me. And you're going to blow into the hose as hard as you can. >> Oh yeah. >> Blow into the hose as hard as you can for me. Okay. Now, we'll give you some water and we'll let you call your mom or your sister, whoever you need to call. >> Just blow until we tell you to stop. Okay? >> Just blow as hard as you can and then I'll leave you alone. >> Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Going. >> There you go. >> All right. >> Stop. It's going to be one more time. >> Do that one more time and then we'll be done. Okay. >> Julie, you see his finger? [music] >> Do you? >> I do. I like your jewelry. >> Just go until we tell you to stop as hard as you can. >> Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Blow a little bit harder. >> Try one more time. >> Just take a deep breath. >> One one blow. Okay. >> Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. There you go. You're good. >> Did she crack? >> Just get her out of here, bro. I'm not going to deal with it. >> But she already slipped her cuffs once, so watch out. Even at the hospital, officials had to carefully manage the situation to maintain safety and follow protocols. >> Right there. Have a seat right there. >> What the is he looking at me for? Why is he here? Why is he here? >> Have a seat. >> Then get him to get the out. >> Okay. Who him? >> No, you [ __ ] You're him. >> All right. Stop. >> Yeah. I'm going go over here. Okay. >> Yes. >> You have to get evaluated by a doctor. Then we're going to go to the jail. >> That a doctor says that. Yes. I'm intoxicating when I'm talking. >> Not even for that. It's just cuz you had a injury and whatnot. >> Well, I don't even remember how this happened to my face. >> Yeah, we didn't do that to you. >> No. >> No. Just hang out though cuz I got to evaluate you and make sure you're okay. And then >> was the house where I'm at? Where you guys? >> Can we just give this process and go to the jail? >> Wait for the doctor. Okay. >> Doctor say what? That I am drunk. Then what are we waiting for? >> The doctor to check. >> I'm tired to check me out to jail. God didn't just take me. >> Cuz if we take you straight to the jail, >> they're going to ask for a medical clearance. And if we don't have that, we're going to have to come right back. >> Awesome. >> It's going to take even longer. Trust me, we've done this a bunch of times. >> I'm ready to leave. >> We're not ready to go yet cuz we have to wait for the doctor. Have a seat. Have a seat. Just have a seat. >> Oh, yes. Cuz you care. >> No. For what? I'm tired. Now, obviously, you're not care. Have >> a seat. Just have a seat, please. >> Why do you Why do you guys pretend like you care? You don't. >> Whether we care or not, it doesn't matter. We have a doctor. >> Exactly. My point. >> We We can't just let you go, okay? So, just please have a seat. >> You're here putting your hands on me. Like, you're putting your hands on me. Where the doctor? I didn't mind though. >> You guys are so >> Stay here. >> Do you realize I do not care? >> I know we don't. >> You're going to take me to jail. >> You're going to go to jail. hurting me. >> Why you in such a hurry to go to jail? >> Why am I in such a hair singer? >> Do you like jail? >> Ow, you're hurting me. >> For what? Cuz from here they going to send me to jail. No. Two anyways. >> I know. >> Okay. So then what's the point of waiting for your own benefit? Take me to jail. I was supposed to do not know my name is no miss town [ __ ] I own gaming cruises and cars that have nothing to do with my family name. I put in so much work in the streets. You don't do. >> Yeah, I do. And all my wife want to wonder. >> It's probably going to be like five. >> And they all want to wonder. >> Tell me. It's up to you. >> Yes. Then take me to jail. It's up to him. I don't know what the I'm here for. Regardless, it's there on vacation right now. >> Yes, please. >> I got waiting for stop. What have you been waiting here for so long? My boss built up the name my entered a my female my >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You got to wait out here. >> Okay. I don't care if you >> No, you don't care. But you will be mine. >> Okay. >> That works. >> Yeah. >> Since further medical evaluation was needed, she was taken back to the hospital once more for a health check. You and you teach you three months. Do you not understand my people? You don't understand them for me. My last lawyer, you know why she didn't have her back? Why? Cuz I seal and she had just started working. So she had a something against me. No. Or they paid her. >> I don't know. >> Whatever the but that had never happened to me here and I hate her. Stupid trying to hit me too much person. Of course I got away with it. Of course I got away with it. Cops, cops, cops, cops. You would love if I your cops. I swear God talking about this this or that. If you do, best believe me just like the rest. You and you will end up. You do not know who I'm ass. Yeah. Should I? After the way you treating me, look my face. >> Hey, we're almost out of here. >> We're almost out of here. I'm letting you know. You do not know who I'm affiliated with. >> I know you're in a rush to go to jail. So, you want to go now? >> Yes. Let's go. >> I know you're eager to get there. >> In the end, the mother faced multiple charges, including DUI, failure to ID, battery, resisting arrest, and child abandonment. In states like Florida, Texas, California, or New York, these charges can carry sentences of 5 to 15 years in prison along with fines from $15,000 to $20,000. Driving under the influence and leaving children unattended can lead to serious consequences both legally and for safety. That's why law and education play a key role in preventing such dangerous situations. There is no clear climax in a story like this. Everything unfolds slowly and unevenly, sometimes even testing the viewer's patience. But in real life, difficult situations rarely follow a script. They often emerge quietly, woven into everyday moments through tone, expressions, and subtle reactions. Children are rarely aware of how close they are to certain limits, and by the time adults recognize it, the situation may have already gone further than expected. If you found this video meaningful, please consider liking, subscribing, and turning on notifications to continue following our work. See you tomorrow. [music]