Retail theft cases are usually pretty cut and dry and fairly simple, but not when it's with a sovereign citizen. When a sovereign citizen's involved, sometimes it ends up with a taser or use of force [music] and a whole bunch of other stuff. This is one of those. Hi. How are you? Hey, was there a problem over at Target at all that you know of? No. Nothing? They're kind of accusing you of stealing. You were not? No. Well, did How did they mess that up then? Can you >> I don't know. They probably profiled Did they try to I I I wasn't, but Do you know were they trying to stop you before exiting or no? No. Okay. So, nothing happened inside the store. >> No, I walked out. Okay. Do you have your license with you, please? No. Do you have one? Yeah, I have a license, but I'm I'm private. Okay. Can I grab your name then, please? No, you cannot. Ding, ding, ding. The refusal, the private citizen, the profiling, sovereign citizen territory. Here we go. Well, you're detained right now, okay? Until I investigate this thing going on right now. They called us. Okay, so just sit tight for me. Do you have insurance on the vehicle? You don't need that, either. I have insurance. I have But I'm private. I'm Do you have any information showing you're private, ma'am? You have to have something, some ID or passport. I think it's a passport. >> a passport, but I'm I'm Can I have that? >> I don't have my passport, and I have my uh I'm sorry. I have my certificate. Can I see that? We're going to try to get to the bottom of it and see what's going on. So, you hear the officer ask for the passport, which he knows that shows he has some training or experience with dealing with sovereigns cuz he knows that sovereigns often will carry a passport as their form of ID. Since she's a private citizen, she still doesn't have a driver's license. So, you just started doing this private thing? Okay. All right. >> Have you ever had a Illinois driver's license or identification card before? In the past, yeah. Do you have? She's saying that it's a misunderstanding of some sort. She has no idea what I'm talking about. Okay. >> So, I told her we'd get to the bottom of it and go from there. Okay. And what is exactly does that mean? I am the I am the name holder for my business. My business. Your business? I'm a private citizen. So, you don't know that information. Is that like a sovereign citizen or is that what you're saying? >> citizen. No, it's not the same. Okay, I I'm just not familiar with the term, so I'm asking you. >> a private I mean, I'm not a sovereign. I'm a private citizen. >> Okay. I I haven't heard of private specifically. What What does that mean? I am a living I'm a live human being, a living one. I'm not what's on my ID. That's why I don't have a driver's license. This is a says a certificate of existence and registration. Yeah, I mean, I This is relatively new to me. Crystal, you said you had you've had a license before, though? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I might get that changed. Are you from Minnesota at all? No, I'm not. Is that where you actually live? >> That's why I found it. I got you. I got you. Okay. What's your date of birth? I'm not giving you that information there. Okay. What What was the misunderstanding at the Target? Cuz right now they're saying that you left with cosmetics, I believe, clothing, other grocery items, I believe. And they're saying that you drove off with them without paying. Was there some sort of misunderstanding there? Or something that you could clarify further for us? Not that you know of? What did you purchase there? I bought You purchased items. Okay. So, from a law enforcement perspective, we view sovereigns in kind of two categories. Ones who legitimately believe that stuff, and ones who utilize that mashup of the ideology to try to get around the law. In my opinion, this woman is the latter. They both can be incredibly dangerous, but we have to try to figure out who it is that we're dealing with. And I believe she's the latter. Do you have insurance on the vehicle? I am a private citizen. You do have to have insurance for a vehicle when you're operating on a public roadway. What would happen if you had a vehicle accident? You wouldn't care? No, I wouldn't care. Would you just cover it out of pocket and you don't have insurance? But I'm not in an accident. Am I being detained for accident? No, I'm right now you're just being detained for theft. So, when did you say you became a private citizen? Was recent? Yeah, last month. A month ago? Is there like a a rulebook or something that you guys abide by or what what's the Yeah, I don't feel like you're the cops. You should know these things. I know the Illinois laws. So, it sounds like you're kind of going outside of the Illinois I don't I don't abide by any legal process, any legal any criminal stuff. I I follow common common law. That's what we go by, common law. Nothing legal. Anything legal process, documents, the jurisdiction, I don't go by. You don't have to. That I'm a living woman. Okay. So, you guys can steal or like murder and that's fine with you? I don't want to say anything cuz I feel like you're you're trying to interview me, and I'm not This is not an interview. Okay. So, she is in fact a private citizen. Most people are private citizens, and you will see that terminology in some law. However, that status does not supersede statute. That simple. >> Crystal, you used to live on Plainfield, is that right? Your driver's license shows Plainfield. Is that correct? I already had it changed. Okay. I mean, if you want to do private thing now, that's fine. But you have a valid I don't understand. You have a valid driver's license. I just don't understand that. You just looked up a a old driver's license. But it's still valid. Okay, it doesn't matter. I just told you I have a passport or a passport. Okay. I'm a private citizen. Do you want to tell Okay. Okay. Okay, so Do you Do you want to tell us anything about the Target before we proceed with this investigation or no? You have nothing? Okay. All right. >> So, two things here. First is the valid license kind of boxes her in because when you apply for a license, there are implied consent rules and laws that you say that I will contract with. That's why a lot of times you'll see that their licenses are suspended. So, he kind of almost checkmated her. She's definitely in check by the fact that have a license. The other thing is the collateral investigation is the investigation into this theft. The officers have to make sure that there's enough evidence that this theft occurred so that they don't do anything wrong cuz they're relying on the information from the private entity, which in this case is Target. >> showed you my certificate. You're under arrest for retail theft. That's separate No, that's not. >> It is. No, I am >> It is. We don't want to We don't want to take you out of the car. >> It looks like Deputy Don't Play That just arrived, and I think things are going to change from talking. I'm a Please don't Listen. Please don't make us I am not You are Just cooperate with us. You are literally going by the business name. You are going by what's on my ID. I'm not that I am not that business. I am a living woman. So, who are you arresting? I'm arresting you. Who are you arresting? So, what's So, what's your living woman name? She showed me what it was. It was Crystal. >> showed him my certificate. >> Well, I'm You're Okay, your private citizen needs to step out of your vehicle. No, I'm Okay. You Who are you arresting? You're You're being placed under arrest. It's time to get out of the Don't Don't fight cuz I'm not You are under arrest. Undo your seatbelt. You. You. Whoever this living human being is. For breathe. Hit her seatbelt. Don't make us Don't make us pull you out, Crystal, please. You're out of the car. Come on. Out of the vehicle. >> Out of the vehicle. Out of the vehicle now. Get out. Step out. You're hurting my arm. You're hurting my arm. Let's go. Step out. Come on. I don't There's no way I can even get in there. We're not playing games. Let's go. Yes, I'll stop when you get out of the car. >> Come on. Time to go. Why are you Time to go out of the vehicle. So, you're refusing to get out of the vehicle. You need to step out. You know, you need to Get out. Don't touch me. Don't Let's go. Let's go. Out of the car now. Out of the car now. On the ground. On the ground. Put your hands behind your back. No, no. Leave her Leave her up. Put her hands behind her back. She's fine. We asked you nicely to get out, okay? You're arresting someone who's not me. I've mentioned this before regarding taser. When the officer deployed the taser, it looked like what he did was called a drive stun, which is not the deployment of the prongs. It's a localized stun at a location, which is pain compliance to get a person to do what you want them to do. I didn't see him actually make contact with the taser, but she did get out of the car. I don't know if it just happened to be coincidence that she got out of the car or just heard it. It looked like it was a drive stun, which is not the deployment of the prongs. It's just driving the taser into the skin. >> So, you're arresting the name of the person I just showed you my certificate. I'm a private Why? Okay, you cannot stealing from the Target. >> I am not Okay. What's the Let's go. No, you have my things. I have your things. They're coming with It's coming with And then you have my car open. Yeah, we're going to take most of the stuff out of the car. No, you're not. What do you mean you're going to take What are we doing? What are we resisting? Why are you kicking me? Are we resisting? Why did you have my car Yeah, it's coming with you. So, here. This paid for. Blue bag. Blue bag. Gatorade, second Gatorade. Hold on. Give me a second Gatorade. This is an officer's nightmare because all of that stuff has to be inventoried. There has to be a receipt printed out. What did she pay for? What did she not pay for? The stuff that goes back to the store. The stuff that may have to be impounded. It takes so many man-hours and takes officers out of service for the time that they could be doing other much more serious, important tasks. I can't count it. Four officers and a sergeant on this call. I'll be transporting one female to the jail. I can have my mother come and pick up my vehicle. No, it's going to be towed. Why does it have to be towed? Cuz it was used in the commission of a crime. I've mentioned this in my videos before, and I've seen it firsthand. They care so much more about their vehicle being towed than going to jail, which baffling to me because they don't that they're going to can't play that sovereign stuff down at the tow yard. They got to come up with the dollars. >> But I'm asking if my mother can pick up my vehicle. No. Okay, Crystal. And I'm going to buckle you, and we're going to walk over here, okay? You'll be here to support you a little bit, and then we're going to walk right over here. We have the officers articulating a retail theft. It could potentially also be a burglary depending on how she entered or what the elements are in that jurisdiction. We heard them talking about the resisting as well. This sovereign thing never, ever works. I've reviewed several of these videos. I've worked these cases myself. If you know someone that could potentially fall down this rabbit hole, please share this video with them. It never, ever works. Not once have I ever seen it work. And if you like this kind of content, like and subscribe. And click on the video that's on your screen if you like to see more content just like this. And there are other videos in this catalog that aren't just sovereign stuff. 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