Shut the up. >> There's no food in the house. >> I know. >> I didn't see any clean clothes. >> I do everything. He disrespects me every day. >> From an [music] early age, children grow up shaped by the adults around them, not by choice. >> She grabbed you while you open the door. Correct. >> No off. That's poisonous, right? >> Fairness exists in every family alongside children's smiles. And from there, adults are called to take responsibility for their own roles. She said that she was going to divorce him every single time he did that. She still hasn't and now he moved on to her. >> The mother's silence unintentionally became a fragile boundary influencing the children's growth while also placing her in a serious legal situation. On November 13th, [music] 2023, Oklahoma police received a report from a school expressing concerns about the general well-being of two 16-year-old students. The information shared pointed to ongoing challenges in the students living situation. Officers conducted a routine welfare check to better understand the circumstances [music] and ensure appropriate support was in place. >> Okay, I'm Officer Sers. So, just tell me why y'all are in here. I don't want you to go in detail. Is what he's saying true? >> What he does, he did it to me first and after I told my mom and she said that she was going to divorce him every single time he did that. She still hasn't. And now he moved on to her. >> So, here's what's going to happen. I don't I'm not asking any more questions or details or anything like that, but there Let me just explain how this process kind of work. I've got I've talked to our child crimes detectives. Some of y'all are 16 and se 16 still under 18. So we use a special detective for these cases. Uh she'll be at work tomorrow. She's aware of the situation. What she'll do is she'll set up an appointment with us specializ in interviewing juveniles especially about these this stuff. So that person will will go in detail. They'll ask you a lot of questions. So just kind of be mentally prepared for that. The detective that'll be working with you and also is a female. She's a really good friend of mine. She's a really nice lady and she has a daughter of her own. I've got four girls. So, like, you're talking to people that have girls. Well, I don't have any boys, but she does. It's not. Don't look at him like that. Let me tell you something. What's happening is not supposed to be happening. I don't want you all saying anything [snorts] to me right now. I don't want to know anything else about this case. What's happening is not supposed to be happening. What he did should have been done a long time ago. Look at him as getting you out of this. >> Where do you want to go? >> To what's their names? Bridget's house. >> How long? I don't know. But you're not going home to your I'm not going to let that happen. >> I know. But I don't I don't want to go back into foster [snorts] care. >> Uh you're not going to go back into foster care. You're not going to go back into foster care. Not 16. Look, I've been adoptive parent. Well, I am adoptive parent. Bob's foster parent. My wife and I have been foster parents for years. You're not going to go into foster care. And I'll tell you what, if you guys go into foster care, I'll keep an eye on that and I'll be the ones to foster you. >> Yes, they are here. >> My wife and I. How does that sound? Well, you already know me, but my the youngest two are adopted. We adopted them. It'll be a safe place. >> Yes. >> While you finish school until you're 18, whichever [snorts] comes first. >> Sound like a plan. >> Okay. But right now, you don't need to be where you're at. So, don't look at him like that. He'll be mad at him. >> This is Monica from DHS. >> Okay. She knows you. >> Hello. Good. How are you doing? Hey, is there any Well, is there any way you can call myself or I can give you a call? 918. Okay. Thanks. I almost said about talk to her, DHS. But don't worry about that long-term stuff. Like my wife and I, if it comes down to that, we'll take you into pos. Don't worry about that. So, I have one more question I have to ask just because there's a 72-hour timeline to know the answer to this. If we need to go have some stuff done has and has it been in the last week? No. Okay. That's all [snorts] I need to know. >> So, fondling behavior with you >> and when you refer to the occurred with you was >> it was like a couple years ago. That's all I need to know. So DHS lady, she's really cool. She's on her way. She's a good friend. She's calling the detective lady, another detective. So they're kind of all working behind the scenes on this. So >> So is that kind of where we are in holding? They still have questions about getting personal items. That's the next step just with DHS and then move to that. >> Yeah. So I can't Well, actually, I can remove you from the house right now. We try to let DHS handle all that stuff. I'm not letting you go home regardless. That's that's me. That's on me. But uh DHS will probably call Bridget and um get that all worked out. It's going to be an emotional year and a half and it depends on how long it drags out with trial. If if say if charges are pressed against your it could be a couple years up to a couple years. So be mentally prepared. Seek counseling on a regular basis. These counselors if they've also got some other resources they can help you with or set you up with. So >> according to one of the children, these concerns began early and later affected other siblings. Given the circumstances, the case was referred to child services for further review and assessment of support needed within the household. >> This is officer. >> Hello. >> Hello. I'm Bridget, the sister. >> Bridget, nice to meet you. >> I'm the mother. I'm the old one. >> What's your name? >> Pam. >> Pam, >> you want to go here? >> Yeah, let me do that. >> Okay, that'll be good. So, do you know what's going on? >> Um, I think so. Only because contacted Bridget, my daughter, son. Oh, is that >> okay? 16-year-old. Okay. >> Yes, they're all 16. Every one of them. All at one time. He won't turn 17 till the end of the month. >> Well timeds. >> Not really, but that's okay. And she called me and well, she came up to see me at work and said, "Mom, text me and said that he's scared, frustrated, mad, sad, full of emotions, and that Walter's been in the girl for years." And I'm like, I really don't believe that, but I have to have an open mind. You can't just say no. I mean, that would be, you know, you just can't do that. >> That's pretty much what's going on. DHS worker will be over in a minute to fill you in. I am not going to let them go home with you. So, I will be taking them out of the house. >> Okay. >> Yep. That's my call, but DHS is going to facilitate that. Sounds like >> they're probably going to be going to some other relatives. Maybe DHS, you're you're on the list for DHS. So, >> I am this and see this. Can I say something? Yeah. Let me tell you a little bit of story about how I think this happened. >> I don't want to hear anybody's opinions on how they think. I want to know I'm Hold on a second. I'm not going to I'm going to do facts. I don't know you. I don't know them. So, we're going to do our investigation. What they've told me right now at this point is why I'm not letting them go home. Once this investigation is done, if everything's in the clear, then go back. So, I don't want to hear how you think this happened or what you think might have happened. I I don't entertain opinions. >> Do you want me to tell you what happened last night? >> If you want. >> Last night. They just hurt my family really bad because we were talking about the family. They're adopted. And they said, >> "When did you adopt him?" >> Uh when they were three and four, so many, many years ago, brother, same age as Bridget. Not my brother. He's only paper. And I said, "What are you talking about? Only paper. He's not my brother." So then I'm not your mother. Only by paper. And they're 16. I get it. I'm let my emotions get a hold of me. So, I'm not your mother. He's not your dad. We have raised you guys from little on and on. And this is the things I get. I said, if you don't want to be a part of this family, that's fine. I'll take you back to DHS tomorrow. >> Well, that's not why I'm here. >> It but it just kind of This is a very serious accusation. Um, and nobody's taking it lightly and nobody's rushing to the ride or anything. I did not, you know, text me. I'm like, you have to talk to somebody. And then I went to talk to my mom and she told me about what happened. We spent all weekend together in Colorado at a family wedding and she said that that happened last night. I'm like so are they teenagers acting out trying to get you know or but regardless this situation still does and in that course conversation I said you guys are 16. There's three of you. No one in the world we're going to take three 16y olds. This is your family. Why do you say we're not your family now? Have they said anything about me, too? Okay. Cuz you said you wouldn't let them go home with me. Cuz I was talking to Bridget and I said once they go to the school or get anybody involved, once they say something like this, you have to go forward. >> I Now I get it. I own two daycarees, so I know I know what the law is. You have to go and report it. You have to tell DHS. HS has been held. I get it. And I said, maybe they just want to go with another sibling. world on paper and everybody loves Bridget. >> I understand what's going on. I'm just trying to decide, do I want them to go home with Bridget? They give what they want or should I send them home? We have plenty. We have four kids besides these three or give them to somebody else. No one. We're not a family at all. I I haven't talked to them. >> Well, DHS that won't be completely your decision. They'll try to keep you in the loop, but DHS will say family. DHS is probably going to ask you all first, but that'll be on them where they go. >> Okay. So, they'll probably ask Bridget first. The names are being thrown around. This just really sucks. If they're just saying this because I don't know, then it really sucks. >> Well, we can't let him go back home with you because your husband has access to the house. Like, we can't legally keep him out of the house. That's why there's no guarantee that we can keep the kids safe by sending him home with you. >> So, even if you went to stay with his mom, there couldn't be No, not even then. Cuz he still has access to the house. >> I guess unless we unless we Hello. >> No, even if you change the locks, he that wouldn't make any difference. >> Oh, really? I don't know how to do it anyway. >> He kick in the door or whatever. Like we can't nothing nothing illegal about destroying your own home. >> I'm at I'm at the school. I'm sitting here with mom. >> Because one individual still had access to the home, the children were temporarily relocated to prioritize their well-being. Child support services also formally became involved, completed a welfare assessment, and arranged a stable living placement. >> All right, I want you all come over here. Were you talking to me? >> Yes. >> Oh, what' you say? >> I said you deal with this a lot more than me. So, are you going to be in here, too? Can you kind of tell if they're lying or not? >> I've talked to them a little bit. Actually, they talked to me, but my job is not tell if they're lying or not. My job is to report it and let the detectives who are specialized in that, they all do this all the time. I don't do this all the time. >> They come in here. >> Yes. >> Hello. Are you Miss Richie? >> I am. I'm Monica Beach. Okay. Kids are going for you. >> My sister agreed to a Thank you. She says this last happened yesterday morning, so we need to get her yesterday morning in Boulder, Colorado. I mean, it's happened here, too, but >> Okay. >> So, we definitely need to get her first. >> Yeah, it didn't. He made [clears throat] it sound like what was wrong. >> So, Bridget is going to go over there and talk with Chris has his car. They're going to coordinate so that Bridget can go to the house, grab some of their belongings cuz they're going to go home with her. I don't know if Bridget needs to go to Hillrest. Does she need to come back here and get and take or can take take Hillrest and Bridget meet them there? >> Don't know. I'm not done saying examine years. >> Well, they don't need parent consent cuz she's over 16. They only need hers. >> They need us there for things >> that'll be fun. >> You probably have time to go to the house, come back here. It takes those same nurses a long time to get it together to get to the hospital. here with my mom. >> Oh, so you got to go vehicle right now. >> Can you use car to go to their house? I don't >> go there. [clears throat] >> Let's go. I'll be back. I want to take care of coffee. >> All right. >> Following the verification process, authorities later confirmed that [music] the children's had passed away. The focus of the case then shifted to the mother. She faced legal action related to not reporting concerns involving a child. Under Oklahoma law, she could face a potential prison sentence ranging from 2 to 15 years. When children speak up or show signs of distress, adults have a responsibility to respond without delay. Recognizing risk is only the first step. Taking appropriate action and working with support systems is essential to safeguarding children. Sometimes the greatest risk to a child does not come from society, but from moments when adults become overwhelmed by their emotions. >> You're piss. [screaming] On March 8th, 2024, officers responded to a home after receiving reports of a mother who appeared confused and was involved in a heated verbal dispute with her son during an argument with her partner. When authorities arrived, emotions were high for everyone involved. They stepped in calmly to separate those present and bring the situation back under control. >> Cover the door. [screaming] >> Hey, hey, hey, hey. >> Let him go. >> Come out here. Come out here. I'm trying to come out here. Hold her. >> He's lying. >> She keeps yelling. She keeps banging on the wall. >> Come out here. Come here and sit down on this curb, please. >> He's lying. >> Sit down. She bit me. She keeps hitting me. I'm trying to stop her. >> He hit me. He's like, "Mom, stop. Stop. He hit me. >> I didn't hit you once." >> Yes, you did. >> I didn't hit you once. I didn't >> You know what he did to me? >> I'm trying to stop her. Both of you, slow down. She keeps hitting. She's drunk. >> Slow down. You come sit over here. >> I'm trying to stop her from yelling. She won't. >> Okay. Sit down. What? What's going on with you? >> Nothing. But my son is like, "Mom, I do everything for him." He's a big kid. He's 187 lbs. Like, "Mom, I want this. I want that. I want this. I want everything for >> if I don't do what he wants." She's like, "Mommy, why? Why?" He's like, "Mommy." He pushed me. He pushes me. He pushed me back. He ran my arms. He's like, "Mommy, I want Takis. I want whatever sex he wants." I'm like, "Okay." I try everything. I do everything for him. He disrespects me every day. And the school he goes to is so up. This school is so up. He me >> he calls me name. I have from him >> where >> some here. I don't know. And I'm like here little marks. He cries me. He pushes me. I love when he's my son. >> How much you had to drink today? >> Couple glasses of wine. Yo, I don't give a what you say. I drink this at my home. I'm not a question. >> I don't care. My son is very He's half Greek and half Italian and he wants what he wants. >> Why does he got scratches on the back of his neck? >> Where? >> The ones I just saw you when you grabbed him as he was coming out the door. >> Really? >> Yeah. Really? >> Well, my son was pushing me. Really? Are you serious? >> I'm just asking. >> I'm going to call my lawyer. >> No. No, you're not. I am. Yeah. Really? Sit down. You are reneing. I want to call my I want to call my husband. Yo, you sit down. Give me house cuz you're reneians. I'm from Pennsylvania. You're liars. You'reing liars. You're lying. Really? You'reing laughing. It's funny. >> Okay, go put your hands behind your back. >> Really? Why? >> Because you're you're intoxicated. You're not listening in a lawful order. >> All right, I'll listen. >> He's so aggressive. Really? >> I'm redneck. >> So, redneck. Can't call it South Floridaian redneck. They don't call the South. >> I have my vape. >> Got it out of your hand. >> Why? So, why am I in trouble now? >> Oh, it's I'm going to have one female >> for what? I need >> Because you're intoxicated. You're aggressive, right? talking. >> I'm in my own home. >> Enough. I'm going to put you in the back of my car. Now you want to act up. You want to act like you know what I mean? >> No. I'm sorry. I don't. >> It's too late for that. Please. >> So now you're going to really >> You wouldn't have gone in handcuffs right away if you just talked to me like a normal person. But then you start getting up talking about >> You know why? Cuz I do everything for my kids. You don't care. My husband, he treats me like a piece of Sorry. I swear to God. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Please don't do this. I love my kid. I'm sorry. You're right. I'm sorry. >> Just sit in the car for me, please. I will. >> Jesus Christ. >> When the statements from the mother and the child did not fully match, visible signs that the child had been through a distressing moment became an important factor in understanding what had happened and ensuring the child's well-being came first. >> So when I pulled up and I heard that banging, what was she banging on? >> Well, she kept banging on the wall, yelling. >> Let me see the back of your neck, Bubba. That's what got me looking. >> Is that when she just grabbed you in front of me or is this from earlier? >> Earlier, she grabbed you while you open the door, correct? >> No. went off the house. >> Who are you talking to when I pulled up? >> My mom's fianceé. My uncle's in the house right now. He freaked out. He just walked out to the backyard. She's out of control. She's always like this when she's drunk. I came home. I tried uh opening door. No one's home. So, I rang the doorbell, went to the back, opened the door. Nothing was open. I'll be I'm 15. >> Beach police. >> Sir, you come talk to me real quick. Yo, come here. What's going on? >> I don't know. We went out shopping. went up cereal over at the dollar store. She just started >> I don't know if she just wanted to resist people here. >> I can't a big mistake bringing me here. >> I don't know. She just went scared, you know. >> And what? Went outside? >> Yeah, I went outside. Yeah. Real quick, you know, I check on you periodically. Okay. >> Do you want to be checked out by the ambulance? >> Okay. I'll ask a guardian later on if you could do me a favor. Raise your right hand for me, please. >> Oh, right hand. Yes, sir. Uh, do you swear in a confirm that you didn't tell me the truth was meant by the truth? >> Yes. >> Okay. What exactly happened tonight? >> My mom's fiance brought her home. She was all drunk. She can't walk straight. We tried to calm her down. She wed and she was banging on the wall. She was yelling at me. Uncle, she kept saying that she hit my dad. Her fiance kept banging on the wall. She made a hole in the wall. She was calling the next door neighbor Spits. >> What happened between you and her? >> I tried to stop her from, you know, banging on the wall. >> How so? How are you trying to stop her? >> I pulled her away from the wall. Then she tried scratching me. I pushed her onto the couch. Then I walked away multiple times yelling and yelling. So I grabbed her hand again and tried to stop her from banging on the wall, calling the neighbor spits. >> Okay. At what point did she become aggressive with you? >> Multiple times. >> So then break it down. You try to stop her, but then >> she kept doing. >> And then when did she become aggressive with you? >> Uh since the beginning. >> When did she start attacking you? >> After he left, she started me when I tried to stop her. >> How did she attack you? >> She kept, you know, trying to me. >> Did she hit you? >> Yes. Okay. >> Also, she herself where did she hit you at? >> Anywhere in general. She just kept throwing visible. >> Like a neck. Okay. But where did she you at? >> Like all over my body. >> Okay. When did she you though? >> 20 minutes 30 minutes. >> Like an hour or two. >> Did anybody else see this? >> No. >> The uncle confirmed she was in a ballistic I mean a a psychotic state. >> Are you okay? >> Yes. >> Okay. Prior to me asking these questions, I'm going to read you your rights. Okay. >> Really? >> Really? What? >> My rights? >> Yes, ma'am. Due to you being detained and handcuffed, I'm read your right today. >> What? >> Listen, ma'am. What is your name? >> George. >> George actually. Let me just get your information first. Okay. >> I don't know what you're saying. >> Let me get your information first. Okay. >> Ask I'm not going to answer questions. Okay. >> Okay. That's fine. But just let me just get your information. Okay. Miss Georgia, relax. >> What's your phone number? >> Wait. Wait a second. >> I'm a police officer. Okay. I'm asking for your phone number. >> Okay. >> Relax. Breathe. What's your phone number? Don't think >> Have you ever seen your stepdad your mom? >> No. >> Do they have verbal arguments regularly? >> Yeah, verbal arguments. >> But you never seen anything physical? No. >> What about anything physical? Sound like stuff get moved around? >> No. >> Nicholas, you in here, buddy? >> Okay, there you go. Hey, what's your phone number? >> I don't know. >> You don't know your phone number? >> No. >> Oh, you do you have the phone? >> No, she had the phone. >> But you don't have a phone. >> No, I don't. I used to have a phone. >> Okay, that's fine. How's the relationship with uh the son in the U? >> Everything's fine. Okay. Let me tell you the truth. Run away. >> Huh? >> Okay. I ran away from her house. Who? >> George's house. Okay. Cuz she was drinking. I got and I ran away and I got picked up by I don't know Del Ray police. >> Okay. No big deal. How's the relationship with the stepdad and some? Yeah. Her her boyfriend. I mean. >> Yeah. Paganos. Yeah. His name is Peter Pogals. >> Yeah. How's the relationship with him and the kid? Hey, is your uncle just out of curiosity, is he capable of caring for himself and you or >> No, he's not able to caring for himself. >> Not for himself? >> No. >> So, definitely not for you then. How's your relationship? Your mom's boyfriend or your stepdad? >> They're not married. >> But how long have they been in a relationship? >> Since his mom's fiance >> fiance, how's your relationship with him? >> It's good. It's good. >> He put hands on you? >> No. >> Yeah, cuz trying to talk to your uncle there is uh touch challenging. >> Nothing against him. It's just trying to collect information is a lot. In response to the concerns, the mother gave several explanations. She suggested the child was responsible for the situation and that his version of events was inaccurate while not accepting personal responsibility. If >> you cannot afford a lawyer, you're entitled to presentation according question. Miss Georgia, do you understand? >> No. >> What don't you understand? >> What did I do wrong? >> Ma'am, do you understand what I read to you? >> No. >> No. Okay, I'm going to read it again. Okay, >> I don't care. What did I do wrong? >> I'm I'm Listen, I'm trying to explain that to you, but I got to read you this first. Can you please call my fiance? >> Hold on. I'm going to call your fiance. >> I hate this. >> I'm read it to you again. >> I want to go. I think she said five. How many glasses one yet? Five. >> No, [clears throat] I did not. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine, ma'am. It's fine. >> Hold on. You know what? It's fine. He's not a redneck. He's fine. He's fine. >> I had two glasses of wine. >> Hold on, Miss Georgia. Relax. >> Relax. >> I'm in my own hole. I can do what I can do what I please. I got him. >> Stop. You test me. >> Ma'am, relax. >> I hate these boats. >> I know. Me, too. Trust me, I'm with you. Okay. I'm on I'm on the same boat. >> Where are you? >> New York. >> So, my fiance >> Long Island questions. >> Ma'am, relax. I'm doing an investigation. Come on. >> If anytime during an interview we wish to answer any questions, your privilege remain silent. You understand, ma'am? >> Okay. Listen. Apparently, you you and your son had got into it tonight. It It was like a physical altercation. >> Can I talk? >> Oh, yeah. My son is very strong though. I weigh 130 lb. He's 18. My son's 14 and he's so he grabbed me. He said, "Mommy, did you require gas?" He did. He's like, "Why, mommy? I don't want I don't I'm like Peter. I'm allowed to drink from home. I'll show you my receipt. I buy from Publix some wine." He's like, "Why? You're not allowed to drink." I said, "What? I don't like people." Like, I know, but I can do that. >> I know, but he said that you were in the wall. You do not You were screaming. No, but officers even heard you screaming and banging on the wall. >> He said, "Mommy, he's like, "Mommy, I'm like, my son is very controlling me." >> I know, but he said that you hit him and >> I would never hit my kids. I never ever >> And he said you bit him, but he has marks on him. >> He was holding me down. He said you are right. >> I swear to God my life my ex-husband I'm Greek. My is I love my ex-husband both my boys up to do I never I >> he has all over his neck in his back. Yes ma'am. >> I don't believe that. I >> I'm not lying to you >> with that. I would never ever my kid. >> So do you know how he got this? >> Does he? I want to see it cuz that's crazy. >> So you want me to take a picture of it for you? >> I don't remember everything. Maybe I was like, "Stop, stop, stop, stop." But my son was like, "Mommy, go to bed. Mommy, go to bed and drink." >> But is it possible that you were too intoxicated that you don't remember and then that you just said you don't remember though? >> Hell no. Get the off. >> Georgia, don't be disrespectful. Okay. >> No. Stop it. Stop. >> Who can we call for him though? >> Him. Can you be left here with the uncle? >> You know what? You need to stop it. So, I'm going to jail for >> Georgia. Georgia. Am I going to jail? >> Georgia? Yes, you are going to jail. Domestic. Really? >> Yes. >> Who? >> Your son. >> What? Can you call my fiance, please? >> I can arrange that. Okay. Listen, I'm going to transfer you. >> You guys are liars. You're liar. Stop it. You're lying. Lying. >> Do you want yourself though? I don't want yourself. You want to yourself cuz you're >> Stop being nasty. Okay, listen. I'm going to transfer you to to >> Why are you doing this? >> Ma'am, do you have any or anything? >> No. Where? >> A lot of >> You have from tonight? >> Yep. None of your business. >> Stop being disgusting. Okay. You're being disgusting. >> As it became clear that these explanations were not being accepted, the mother's emotional state escalated while she stood near the patrol vehicle. >> You stayed home with the fiance or with the uncle for 3 hours at me. >> You contact DCF and then uh just have them sign the forms. Okay. >> You're a kid. YOU YOU'RE LYING. YOU need to relax. >> I never ever ever ever you relaxing mother. You'reing pig. Are you 60 days? >> You shut the up. >> I like that. >> I got you. Come on, >> ma'am. If you catch resist. Okay. Come on. A car. >> DON'T. OKAY. [screaming] >> Come on. Ma'am, stop. Let's go. >> Come on. >> Okay. >> Let's go. Stand up, please. >> You want to me? >> Come on, ma'am. Relax. The numbers are going to be watching. Get in the car, please. >> You know it's >> Get in the car, ma'am. The neighbors are watching. Get in the car. Get in the car, ma'am. >> We put you in the car. Go ahead. >> I'll do it myself. You liar dirt. I didn't do nothing wrong. >> You ma'am. >> YOU'RE [screaming] happy in front of your feet. You know better. >> You said what? >> I hate you guys. Family members later shared that similar incidents had occurred before, often during times when the mother struggled to manage strong emotions, influenced by ongoing stress and unresolved personal challenges. >> I'm going to tell you something. Next time this is happening. >> All right. >> All right, man. I know it's your mom and everything and you're worried about it. >> I've done in the past. The police said they couldn't do nothing. >> What this is is a victim's confidentiality. >> How far out are you're on your way home right now? >> Yeah. >> Courts handle everything from here, but with the message, we have no choice. He's got visible >> what happened about when she gets a couple of wine. She gets crazy. >> Yep. Yep. Well, I'm glad you understand. [screaming] >> Shut the L on. [screaming] >> If you are racist, if you are racist, this is all >> and this will be seen in court. >> You're a piece of YOU ARE TOO. WHATEVER THE YOU ARE. I'M GREAT. I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER I never PUT MY HAND ON my >> ma'am. You going crazy. >> I love MY VOICE. I HATE YOU. >> Do you hate cops? You hate black people? Which one do you hate? Cops or black people? >> The biggest >> cops or black people? Which one? Or flidians? Which one? >> I'm not my I'm not from I'm from New York. >> I don't get really. >> Yes. Biggest pieces. >> The 516 Long Island. >> I'm from Harrisburg, mother. >> What is Harrisburg? >> Yes, I am. >> There's nothing out there. You're >> say something. >> Something. >> WHAT? WHAT'S HARRISBURG? >> ARE YOU A EAGLES FAN? >> NO. >> GOOD. Cuz I hate the Eagles. I'm a Giants fan. >> I don't like you either. >> No, I said I hate the Eagles. You're not sympathetic towards you and you're being completely towards me. >> You're the biggest piece of >> like like you're making [clears throat] you're making. What's that mean? >> What's a What's a moa? >> In Greek, we hate >> I love Greek food. No, that's not true. I eat at Greek places all the time. >> I like Giannis. >> Giannis. GIANNIS. THAT'S MY BOY. YOU. THAT'S HOW YOU >> I love Yiannis. >> Never beat him. >> He's a black Greek. SO YOU LIKE BLACK PEOPLE THEN? >> I love him. >> So you're not racist. >> I'm not. But I don't like you're racist. >> So then would you call Giannis the nword? >> I'm pretty sure you wouldn't do that. >> Everybody, we love every race. >> So then STOP BEING SO MEAN. >> MY BEST FRIEND IS PUERTO RICAN. >> MY BEST FRIEND'S PUERTO RICAN. >> You are a outstanding person. Okay. You're just upset right now. You didn't like the fact that he was grabbing you and then >> he was grabbing me and I was pissing him off. >> Exactly. And he he >> I never I didn't >> ma'am. He had multiple injuries to his body. >> No, you're lying. >> I lying. >> I'm not lying. I promise you. You want to see it? >> If I show you a picture of it, would you say >> Okay. >> Yo, I can show you pictures of my boyfriend. You want to see them? HE >> WE'RE AT HERE. >> He to Florida. >> Yes. >> Where? If you want to file a report for that, then we'll be able to document it for you. >> All right. Now, >> but then if you your son won't have you, ma'am, if you don't want that over me >> cuz he has injuries. I believe you. >> He stated he stated that he was trying to grab you, ma'am. He He told me that. >> I love my kids. >> Well, they're still here. You don't have to >> perfect. >> Well, you don't have to. >> I hate you. Okay. >> Are you happy now? Are you happy to do your job? >> As long as justice is served. Yes, ma'am. >> So, I didn't do nothing wrong. >> Why are you so You're so vulgar. >> You don't like me? Because I Cuz I don't like you. >> Stop being nasty. Okay. >> Why don't you like ME THOUGH? WHY? >> MA'AM, I don't even know you. >> I didn't even do nothing wrong. >> Doing it for you. Please call my fiance. Please. >> If you relax, I will call him. You got to relax. I will every I lost my best friend. I LOST MY BEST FRIEND. >> WHAT'D YOU LOSE? >> I lost my dad. >> I'm sorry about that. When >> I lost everybody, >> how long ago, man? >> You know what? God's going to fix you. I swear to God, I'm Greek. You know what that means? I hope you you don't even give a about me as a person. All she cares about. I'll be Would you be happy if I up? >> No, ma'am. >> You have someone to me. >> Hey, relax. No one's going to touch you. >> I can't. >> Ma'am, you're not going inside. Just relax. >> Me up. I'll >> You're not going inside. You got to stop drinking. You're doing too much. >> Don't worry about what I'm doing. IT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM. YOU DON'T GIVE A [ __ ] ABOUT ME. YOU DON'T even know where THE [ __ ] YOU'RE FROM, you >> I got step guy coming here once. >> Say, ma'am, you scared him. You're banging, you're screaming, shouting in your house. She bang a hole in the wall. He's 15. He shouldn't be seeing that. >> I'm Greek. I am not I'm I'm white, but I'm Greek. >> Ma'am, and I respect that. So, I'm like, you call him white. Yo, I'm going to stick up for my race. >> Sticks and stones, ma'am. Ma'am, you call me a sticks and stones. I don't It's fine. You're just upset. You got to relax. >> Please. >> I forgive you. Ma'am, you really got to stop drinking cuz you you turned to somebody completely different. >> I'm gonna stop. I'm telling you. >> STOP IT. STOP. [screaming] >> SHE WAS HEY. HEY. You were calm. Relax. >> Do you have any issues, ma'am? Honestly. >> Yes. >> Where? >> I just can't show you cuz we're here. >> I can't take off the handcuffs. Ma'am, >> I saw grab my arm. >> Can you turn your body to the left, please? >> There's like three little marks. Obviously, please do me more favor. Please me, redneck. Yeeha. >> Think you should probably lay off the booze. >> You worried about what I do. Worry about what you do. Take me, mother. Send me. That's what you want. That's what you're going to get. And after 10 years, my dad moved us to nice neighborhoods for working hard like a dog. But I grew up in the hoods and I grew up in Harrisburg and I'm proud of Harrisburg. I love Harrisburg. In the end, the individual involved in the earlier disagreement became the temporary caregiver with the main goal of protecting the child's sense of stability and security. >> Oh, buddy. You're just going to sign right here by the roll and then sign with you until she gets back. >> She'll be perfect with me. >> Okay, that's fine. She was ballistic. >> I was I was at work and I got the phone call and I said, "Oh my god, she's out of a shopping center like this." So, I went there, got her in the car, all her groceries, her brother took her home and I said, "Peter, make her a deal with her. I have a big party of 175 people in about 20 minutes and I ran back. >> It's probably not the best circumstance, but thank you. >> Like, can I make a suggestion like to get her help? She >> Yeah, she is such a good girl. You have no idea. >> She is You don't You have no idea what a great girl she is. She's a great girl. If she drinks three glasses of wine, you know, I don't know what it is. I've never seen this ever in my life. The whole personality becomes something and she gets me. I take them and I leave. >> Well, I think she told me five. I think she had five glasses of wine. I think >> that's three. She gonna after three, yo, it's like you don't even recognize her. You look into her eyes and it's not her. Oh, where she sober the next day. >> Yo, she cries all day. I'm so sorry I did this to you. It's She's great. >> Provided Peter with a pamphlet to our victim outreach program. Very nice lady. And she's not just for victims. She maybe get her counseling. >> That's what I need to do. I need to help her. >> I could love the girl. She's really seems fine without alcohol. >> No, she's a great girl without alcohol and stuff. I even thought bringing her home cuz we just got the puppy. She loves him. >> She likes him more than me. >> So does my wife. Like my dog. >> Yeah, she does. And I thought by her being with him, maybe she won't do that. >> Yeah. Well, I got to get this paperwork up there, but I appreciate you, sir. >> The mother later faced a serious child welfare charge. Under Florida law, she could face a maximum penalty of up to 5 years in prison and or a $5,000 fine. This case highlights that children need protection not only physically but emotionally as well. Managing emotions, seeking support during difficult periods, and raising children with patience and understanding are essential steps toward creating a safe and healthy family environment. >> 911 emergency. How may I help you? >> There was a child standing outside the house alone. >> Is the child safe now, ma'am? >> The child ate safely, but there was no adult accompanying them. >> Where are the adults in the house? The child said they couldn't wake them up. I tried checking, but no one answered. >> What is her current address? >> In southwestern Ohio near the Hamilton Ross Township area. >> Okay, we'll send a team to check. Please maintain a safe distance and continue watching until the police arrive. >> This call highlights a serious lack of supervision. Yet, within the disorder are clear signs of growing hardship where adult emotions seem just as fragile as the children they are trying to guide through it. On September 9th, [music] 2025, Ohio police received a report from neighbors about children wandering the neighborhood [music] without adult supervision. When officials arrived, they found several children of different ages inside a cramped, cluttered, and potentially [music] unsafe living space. The only person present was an 18-year-old who had been asked to provide temporary care. >> Are you one that called? >> Yeah. >> Okay, give us a second. We'll come back and talk to you. >> Make sure they're okay. >> Yep. >> Hey, buddy. Where's your daddy at? >> Hi. >> Hi. Sheriff's office or workhead back office. Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi, guys. You know your kids said they couldn't wake you up. Come on. Let's go out here. We're going to talk to you. >> All right. >> I got them. They're fine. Go talk to my partner. >> What's up, guys? High five. High five. >> I want my dad here. >> Yeah. >> Are you going to give my daddy a chill? >> No, we're not going to do that. >> Are you just You want to go outside? We can go outside. That's fine. We can go outside. >> Have you been drinking? Did you drink any drugs or anything? You were just taking take a nap or >> Yeah, we just take a nap waiting for my little sister. >> Okay. So, are those your kids? >> No, they're my my brother and my >> Those are your brothers? >> Yeah. >> And your sister? >> No, my nephews and that's >> nephews. Is there only three? How many is there? >> It's just them. >> Just three. Okay. Hi, buddy. You okay? >> They're your nephew. >> Yeah, >> these two little ones. Yeah. >> Hello. >> Oh, my sister's at work. >> Where'd she work at? >> Um, well, no, I forgot the name of the work, but it's a bottle company. >> Is it around here anywhere? >> No, it's in 4. >> Okay. When does she get home? Like, what time? It's about 4:45 right now. >> Well, she usually gets here at 6:00, but like she has a second word. >> Okay. >> They they said that they couldn't wake you up, so that's a little bit concerning. Oh, I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Do you guys need to check him or anything? He woke right up when we went in. >> Yeah. >> So, >> yeah. Okay. I don't know. >> All right. No, no needs for much. >> Do you think you need to be checked out or >> you were just tired? >> Yeah, I was just tired. >> Okay. >> How long do you think we're asleep? >> Well, that's a while. Yeah. Long sleep. >> Do you do you work at all? >> No. >> Do you just stay up late? >> Okay. The home fell short of basic living standards with [music] limited food available and several unsuitable items within the children's reach, suggesting an unsafe environment for young occupants. >> Does your sister have a boyfriend or anything that lives here or is it just you two? >> Okay. Where does their dad live? >> He lives in north side. I don't know where my little sister's at. Oh, she says she was taking the bus for lady. >> So, there's a fourth one. >> Yeah. >> But she is she at school or where does she go to school? >> Hamilton or Ross? >> Six kids. >> There's six people living here. >> Six. >> Do you have an Ohio ID? >> No. >> You have a passport? You don't have a passport? Where you from? >> You don't have no passport or no nothing like that? >> No. No identification from Guatemala. >> I give him my name. >> You don't have anything with your picture on it from Guatemala. >> Like a little card. >> No. >> Watch me for a second. Actually, uh, what's the Let me see the name. Is that the name of your How old are you? >> I'm 18. >> 18 years old. Okay. And, uh, >> how long have you been in the United States? >> How old is your brother? >> Nora. 58. >> Have you ever filed for uh, a visa? >> I don't know. Those asked to look [music] after the children did not have formal legal authority, leaving the children without proper oversight or protection. >> Yes, ma'am. Everything looks okay. Um, which house do you live at? >> Um, >> his sister usually is there every day to pick him up. >> She's not there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's the weird part. Um, the house the house is a mess. Huh? >> He said dad was there, but he was sleeping. I guess that's who he was. >> He was passed out in the back. So, so I'm going to just do uh where was we at? Children services real quick. That's it. >> Yeah, that's >> Is there like another adult? >> I've only seen the boy that's here like I don't see him often, but I I only ever see sister. >> That's it. >> I I've never seen dad. I've never seen mom. >> Okay. >> So, yeah, it really when I when he opened that door and there was two other little babies and then how the house looked, I was like, "No, I have six and that that just pulls up the heartstrings." >> Oh, no. I get it. I get it. >> Do you go to school? I love it. >> Yeah. >> You do? >> I go to school. >> Have you guys eaten today? >> You haven't eaten anything? >> Well, we I went to school and I eat something. >> You ate something at school? >> Yeah. >> Do you know if your little sister ate anything today? >> No. >> Where's your little sister at? >> No, she's coming right in from school. >> I don't know. She just called me. >> She's supposed to be here at 3, ain't she? >> But they said I had a They have a problem with the bus. I don't know. She's coming in. She's coming with a friend's mom. Who else is here besides you and your sister and these kids? >> Us. >> Cuz that's it. >> Which one's your kid? >> None of them. >> None of them. >> No. >> Whose kid is this? >> My sister's. >> Your old sister? Another sister? Yeah. Not the one that's coming. Where's that sister? She's working. >> Where she live? >> That's my sister. >> You're in this house? >> She work. She's working. >> Hi, this is Deputy Hoy. >> What happened? Um, we got a call saying that um, a neighbor was talking to one of your kids and he said that he couldn't wake up his dad, so we had to come make sure he was okay. How long until you get here? >> Almost 45 minutes. I work for >> Okay. So, are you 45 minutes away right now? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Uh, we're trying to figure out what's going on here. An older sister returned home carrying deep family loss [music] and became overwhelmed with emotion before understanding why officers were present. >> Hello. >> Hi. >> I just need to talk to you. >> Uhhuh. >> Okay. You're mom to a friend, I take it. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I am mom to a friend. >> All right. >> You call me if you need anything. Okay. Okay. >> What's your name, man? >> Hi, my name's Carly. >> Carly. Let me speak to her real quick and I'll talk. >> She's not in trouble or anything like that. So So here's the problem. Do you know where her parents are at? >> No. >> Have you ever seen her parents? >> No. >> Okay, that's the problem. There's probably six kids in the house. >> Yes. >> Right. >> One who's 18 who has none of them has kids. Who's the older brother? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Well, there's an older sister, too. >> She's nowhere to be found. >> She's anywhere to be found. One. >> She's at work. >> Okay. So, we're here. >> I see like I've seen >> We are here. We are here for a reason. We are here because we got called here because one of the kids walked out of the house and said they can't wake up their uncle or their dad and there's the living conditions are not very ideal. >> So here's the thing is even if even if she wants to call you to come pick her back up I have to get that okay by children's services. >> I'm a foster parent. >> It's that part I understand. >> I just wanted you to know that like if >> like so so if do you have a contact number or anything? Your little uh your older sister should be here. She the one that takes care of all you guys. So, where's your actual parents at? >> My mom passed away. >> I'm sorry to hear that. How long ago she passed? >> Four years ago. >> Four years ago. >> So, who actually So, who actually has uh guardianship over you guys? >> My sister. >> Is it legal through the courts? >> Yes. >> Okay. No, Dad. I take it. >> You didn't? >> Okay. So, your So, your sister's one that has guardianship over all you guys. >> And I take it you also take good care of your your little nieces and nephew once. >> Okay. Well, uh I got to talk to my partner. He just called me on the phone. trying my other partner inside which I got to go talk to her. Okay. Well, your sister is here. Your little sister. >> Okay. Do you want to go talk to her? >> She's kind of really upset. >> Oh, you care if I sit here with you? >> Okay. What's going on? You can look at me. It's okay. You don't have to be embarrassed or anything. What are you so upset about? [crying] >> Oh, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah, I know. It's probably probably a really hard time without your mom. >> Just going to look look real quick. I'll be right back. So, are you the one that's responsible for them when uh your sister's gone? You are the one that's supposed to be taken care of when the sister's gone. You know that you got to keep the doors and stuff locked, right? Yeah. You do know that. >> Okay. >> I What's your name? After a long work shift, the eldest sister, the children's legal guardian, appeared exhausted as she tried to balance earning a [music] living while caring for multiple young children, a challenge that requires more support than one person often has. Well, do you know why we're here? >> No. >> You don't know why we're here? >> I work. >> Okay. Where do you work at? >> Milford. >> Milford. Okay. So, it took you a minute to get here. >> Yeah. >> All right. I figure you probably speeding a little bit, huh? >> Yeah. We got called here because your brother >> little brother nobody your little sister was not here to get her off get him off the bus. So another person maybe took him down. Okay. When they took him down they said hey where's your sister at? It was inside the little your two little kids come out and say we can't get dad up. Is that dad or is that brother? Call him dad. >> No weird. >> You're all right. You're all right. Take your time. >> So tomorrow is my brother's birthday. My mama pass was away four years ago. This month of this month my mama was years four years ago. >> Okay. So So one of your brothers have already >> My mom >> your mom tomorrow is your four your mom's birthday. >> No, tomorrow it's my little brother's birthday. He's about seven years old. >> Okay. I'm tracking now. I apologize. >> That's all right. That's right. So the thing I do is work. I got my two kids. Well, after my mama pass away, my dad's in Guatemala and I have to take the responsibility of everything. So, you're the one who's taken own like responsibility of the kids. >> Now, are you legally by law? >> Hold on. Are you legally their guardian? >> Yeah. >> Your sister and your little brother? >> Yes. >> By through the court system? >> I mean, >> through the court system, are you legally their guardian >> over here in the United States? No. >> Okay. But in Guatemala? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> When your mom passed, did she pass here or did she pass in Guatemala? >> Over here. >> She passed away over here. >> Yes. >> Do you live in that house? Are you sure? >> That answers my question. So, you don't live in that home? >> Yes, I live in that home. Are you sure? Yeah, you can ask the neighbor. >> So, you do live in the neighbor. Okay. I asked one of the neighbors. They said they didn't really see you. But if you're always going to work, I get it. >> Yeah. I >> What time do you work? >> I got two jobs. >> You got three? >> Two? Yeah. >> Okay. You're a very busy late. >> I know. The first job I got 6:30 >> to 5 and the other job 6:00 to 11:00 in the middle of the night. I could have at 10:00 over there, but I get over here at 11:00. >> That makes sense. That's why you're never home. Yeah. >> You're gone from morning to night. >> Yeah. But I'm here Saturday and Sunday. My daughter and my son um her her her dad taking care about them. He live in Cincinnati. >> So he comes up and takes cares of them or does he take them back down to Cincinnati? To >> Cincinnati? Yeah. >> Do you stay with dad in Cincinnati too? >> No. No. When I when I work, he take them over there. >> So then why weren't they with him? >> Yeah. Weekends. Like >> just on the weekends. So when when on the weekends they go with him and on the weekdays they stay here alone with your older brother >> and that is it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. There's no food in the house. >> I know. >> I mean I I I see some like food that you guys order in. There's no food in >> I know this this run out yesterday. >> I there's no there's no I didn't see any clean clothes. Okay. >> There's no nothing like that. You understand that, right? >> Yeah. I [laughter] know with them >> with my brother older brother. They help me cuz I work a lot and I pay all the bills by myself >> and it's a lot >> and that's a lot. >> So, I do have a couple questions for you and actually this other deputy is probably going to have a couple more questions for you. Do you have an ID? >> Not with you. Is it in your car? >> Can you go get a Thank you. >> Her circumstances drew compassion while also emphasizing that caregiving responsibilities [music] require adequate knowledge, resources, and community support. >> Oh, you got a United States passport? >> Yeah, born here. >> Okay. So you're born here. >> Okay. So you were born here. >> Yeah. >> All right. Your your little brother your your brother was not. >> Uh my brother and my sister not born. >> Okay. So they were born in Guatemala. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Let me see your kids and then and then we're going to have a conversation. I'm going to ask you, do you stay here every night? >> You do not stay anywhere else. >> Are you sure? >> Okay. Where do these two stay wet? Do they stay in your room? Where does the little man stay at? >> With your brother. And then your sister has her own room. How often do you do laundry? >> I mean, the washer and dryer in there looks like they haven't been used in a while. >> Every day. >> They were being used every day, but they're not being used now. >> Okay. And how long ago was that? >> Every day. >> So, where's the clean clothes? >> Okay. In your closet? >> Yeah, in my closet. And in the little backpack we got over there. >> Okay. What's this? >> I told him to clean my day. >> I'm so sorry. I can't hear you. >> I said the mess that they do. >> It's I mean, kids are kids, right? >> And I know kids are kids. However, that's that looks like it's it's cleaning supplies, right? They can get they can from that. It's poisonous, right? And and what's up with all the air fresheners? >> I know from work. >> Okay. But again, you know that those are around kids, right? So So you got to be a little cautious and especially if your brother's not watching cuz it's his job now to take care of him when you're not home, right? Cuz he's 18, right? You're 18, right? >> Can I have a conversation with you outside, please? What was your question? >> You going to take it off the kids? >> Well, here's what's happened. 45. He doesn't need a K9. >> We got a detective coming out here. So, what's going to happen is is your brother's going to get criminally charged and you're going to get charged or because of the condition of the home. >> Okay. We have to notify children services. All right. >> Okay. My kids my kids. >> I have to I have to get that cleared by children services. Okay. I just cannot say yes. Children services has to agree to it. All right. Okay. That is where we're at right now. I am trying to give you some respect. could do some time with your kids. Okay? I'm not listen to me. Listen to me. Okay? Look, I'm not saying that you're a bad mom or anything along those lines. You're a very you're a very busy mom. All right? You work two jobs and you're not only taking care of yourself, you're trying to take care of your kids, trying to take care of your little sister, your brother, and you're trying to take care of your your big brother. You have a lot that you're trying to deal with right now. And I get that. And you're >> I'm just going to give my my kids father >> a call. I mean, if he can take both of them. >> I need his name. Uh um does he have a social security number or anything like that? I need all that. I have to run a background check on them and I have to notify children's services cuz they're going to have to be the ones that say yes. They can go, "Dad, you are going to have to go with me down the down the sheriff's office. You're going to have to go down to the sheriff's office. There's nothing we can do about that." >> Are you going to go a jail? >> Huh? You and your brother are going to go to jail? Yes. I'm going to give you a little time with your kids. Now, children services will be in contact with you once you get out. I want you to understand that, okay? To try to work with you about potentially how to work with you to get your kids back. Do you understand? All right. I can't give you any form of advice, okay? But what I can tell you, your biggest priorities is you you need to figure out a new better situation, right, for you and your family. And there is help. There is assistance. There is so many other options out there to help you guys out. There really is. Trust me, believe me, there are so many other odd opportunities we try to help you out. Okay? I'm going to let you go in there and with your kids for a minute. Okay? And then actually, real quick, >> I can't give you He's so stupid number. >> Yes, please. I need that. I'll let you go in real quick. Okay. Hey, look at me. Spend time with your kids. [snorts] Don't do anything stupid. Okay. >> All right. >> The 18-year-old younger brother was also held responsible for insufficient caution in the role he had been given. I can just come on down to the >> Go ahead. Have a seat and then I'll buckle you in. All right. >> All right. >> I like your hat. >> You guys get to have a party with her. Okay. >> We're going to go We're going to go for ice cream. Okay, good. Look both ways. >> I forgot my gun. >> You forgot your gun? The green gun? >> You want me to go get You want me to go get it for him? >> Yeah, you'll do that. He's going to get >> The sister and her 18-year-old brother face charges of [music] ining children. Under Ohio law, they could face up to 6 months in prison and a fine of up to $1,000. In your view, does this situation call more for [music] understanding or for accountability? And what kind of outcome would truly be fair given the circumstances? They have four prior cases, meaning they caught you on camera at least four times. >> This is not simply a story about an item that was not fully paid for, [music] but about a child unintentionally placed in a situation they never chose. On May 23rd, 2025, police received a report from security staff about a woman accompanied by a young child who was involved in a merchandise related issue. While the item's value was minor, records showed four similar prior incidents at the same location, requiring closer attention. What time? >> How much is it? >> 47. >> Pieces. >> Four. >> Yeah. >> Four pieces. >> Four. prior cases meaning they caught you on four times. >> Can you write for me? >> I can't. >> Write what? >> I don't >> I'm not going to write anything. English is poor. >> Need to calm down. You >> I don't like this kid. Would you? Okay. I'm sure you understand. Right now, you're being under arrest for retail death. You stole something. >> Can you let me see? >> It's okay, buddy. We'll make it work. Okay. You're arrest >> for I don't know. >> There it is. >> And four >> prior >> here. Correct. >> Yeah. [music] >> You guys picture? >> Yeah. I will check in. If you don't have any prior >> looks like our caller was pushed denying AMS at this time, no EMS. >> If you don't have any prior arrest, no arrest. >> It's okay, buddy. We'll make it quick. Okay, I promise. I'm sorry. Just when it comes to iPhone, I'm a little slow. However, if you have prior, this is the best promise of your reaction. If you have prior arrests, >> you will go to jail. Okay, mama. I need you to look at this really quick. Okay, >> look at this. >> Hey guys, I know this is a hit. Don't you guys have anything threshold? It's under 100. That's for my implement. My FYI, you guys have any threshold? I think what prior we have to call even one frier. Even if I say she walked out with $15 today because we have a prior case on her, we have to call it every day. >> Okay. >> As long as we buddy here, don't hate us. Okay. >> That's for you. >> She paid for a whole bunch of other ones. >> Yeah. I mean, it makes no sense, right? You paid and you >> those were the expensive ones I should pay for. >> I swear I forgot it was only two very we have them at a car I guess service right now >> just because they were too bulky on that plate. >> That's what she said on two very cheap things and I have >> Okay, I'll be back. I want to get her time in and time out. >> Is it level two? >> Yeah. >> Everything same number. >> Yeah. >> What's your phone number? Who's uh is this yours? >> Okay. Yeah. Thank you. >> That's you know the drone. That's his information primary on it. Bringing a young child into situations like this is rarely incidental. In practice, a child's presence can cause others to pause as people naturally prioritize a child's safety and emotional wellbeing. Security. Security. >> I forgot his name. >> Okay. >> All right. Um, we got everything. They got the report number. Can Can I get the four prior case report? >> Uh, have that handy for me. >> What do you mean? >> Make sure when situations like that to ask the parent like, "Oh, >> there's four prior reports on her. from us. We rolled up cases on them. >> You know, you have four priora like >> incident with her. >> Yeah. Incidents here. Can I Is there a report number done? >> No. >> No. 50 55 48. >> She did some sometime. It looks like she took out 200. Mhm. >> But we have no sort of >> It all happened here, right? >> Yeah. But no no no police report, right? >> No police report. Okay. >> So, let me ask you this. >> Can you write me down? the date and the amount date amount of each of each so I can put in the report. Yep. >> All right, mama. >> Yeah. Can you type for me? Uh, tell her tell her we're going to give her a local ordinance ticket. I wrote that earlier. >> And the court date is July 3rd. >> So, she was at the register. She play she pay for whatever and she pay for too. Like the self checkup. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Weird cuz everything else she gave up that she didn't WANT THE most expensive items. >> Why is it always with the kid lately? I don't like that. >> That's a pattern here a lot cuz a lot of times if you think >> Well, it's a distraction. >> Oh, I'm not going to grab you. >> Is it a distraction that you look honest? You know, where can I >> But I also mentioned that she's no longer allowing the mall. >> Yep. Yep. Tell her she cannot come to the mall. Officially our target. Yet >> I think your numbers are good. I need to stop stop this activity. >> Not yet. [crying] >> Get treated the same. >> I know. [laughter] >> I know. >> You still get treated the same. >> Trust me, I know. >> No. Right. >> Security. And that's it. Keep it simple, guys. >> Oh, yeah. >> You better stop crying. There you go. >> I I told her that the work is July 3rd. >> July 3rd at at 3:30. >> And I told her that she is no longer allowed in the mall. >> She's no longer welcome. >> She is trespass. >> Trespass. All right, we are done. >> So, I can never come to this mall again. Not ever. No, >> you're trespassed. at least for a how long when you trespass how long >> Target is a year at the mall. Um after a year she got a sign of letter. >> Okay. One year. >> Okay. That's one year. >> Just one year. >> Well, one year >> don't do what happened on Tuesday. >> Two guys. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> 104. [laughter] Rather than escalating, the situation was handled calmly, even without intent. [music] The child's presence contributed to a more measured and peaceful outcome. >> Look how they shoot you guys right now. We think they're going to box you up if you hand out. >> We are done. We're going to walk you up. >> Have a good day. I don't want to come back. I want to be unwelcome for the rest of the day. >> All right. Thank you guys. >> Oh my goodness. Around the corner, we're going to walk you out. Okay. Yeah. >> Is there a cart? >> Yeah. >> I sent out the email to you. I sent out to you. >> You didn't. >> You didn't. I think it already got closed out. Actually, I'm not 100% sure. The legal handling in this case [music] was relatively straightforward. The woman received a citation under local law, was given a court date, [music] and was barred from returning to the shopping center for one year. Responsibility should rest with the appropriate [music] party. Children should not bear the weight of adult choices. A healthy society addresses such matters fairly and with compassion, protecting children while allowing adults the opportunity to take responsibility and move forward. A new emergency call arose. This time involving a mother behind the wheel while not in a safe condition >> gradually came to light. Faced with police received a report of a woman driving in a manner that appeared unsafe while two children were in the vehicle. Shortly after her car had a tire blowout, allowing officers to approach and speak directly with the mother. >> Hello. >> Hi. >> I'm sorry, Alexis. >> I'm sorry. >> You okay? What's your name? No, my daughter is tired and throwing a fit. So, we pulled over that way we can't have a fit and we're going to go home. >> What happened with your tires? >> What's ours? >> The car tires. >> We're leaving. He's done having her fit. We'll see you later. >> Just hold on. Don't. Do you have a license so I can see? >> No. >> Just stay in your car for a second, ma'am. Can you Can you sit in the car? Can I see your driver license, please? >> Okay, but I pulled over cuz my daughter's having a fit. Don't give me a hard time. >> We got a call about your car. That's why I'm here. Going to close my hand on the door, man. Step away. Your car is not safe to drive one because you don't have tires. >> I do have tires. >> Would you like to see it? >> Oh my god. Buckle up. Let's go home. >> Would you like to see it? >> Buckle. >> Hello. >> Let go of my car. >> Step out of the car. >> Yo. >> Step out of the car. You're going to be in handcuff. >> I pulled over cuz my daughter was >> I understand that. But now I need your driver license. >> I will give it to you. >> I'm still waiting. >> I know. We're just trying to go to the mall. We want to go to the mall. I want a jumpy date. >> You don't have tires. You want me to show you? >> I'm sorry. I can't afford car tires. >> It's flat. You can't drive it. You don't have flat tires. >> Okay. My husband. >> Let me see your driver license, please. >> And then I'm going to go home. >> Yeah, we'll do. >> I have rights. Sure. >> Actually, I'm calling can't drink. I'm calling my lawyer. >> Send me one one more. >> Authorities interveneed to ensure safety when the situation could not be resolved on the spot. Ma'am, >> my kid my kids are on their car. >> You're going to be detained for now. Okay. >> No. >> Relax. You will be arrested. We're not being detained. >> My kids are understand. >> Okay. >> We're pulled over. >> Okay. I know. >> So that they can stop busting. >> Relax. >> No, my kids. >> Come over here. They They're fine. They're fine. What's your name? What's your first and last? >> We live right. >> You got to call about your car that you almost hit somebody. >> Oh my god. >> Somebody. So you're driving >> in a way that's not very safe. >> That's my kids cuz they're >> Are you under any any medications or so? I need to make sure cuz you're not You don't seem all right to me? >> No, I am not. >> Have you have anything to >> I don't. >> Are you taking any drugs? >> No. >> What kind of you think I am? >> No, no, no. I'm just asking the way you asking the way you were acting right now. >> My kids have been screwed and I have a 2-year-old. >> You don't even realize that you're driving with a flat tire. >> My husband will come and fix it. Listen. >> Okay. Are you prescription medications? >> No. >> I have a 2-year-old and a six-year-old and they're scing their heads off. So, I pulled over so I can give them their their >> Is there a reason you're giving me a hard time when I ask you for just your name and your driver license just so you figure out who you are? because I have to give my kids snacks because they're screaming and crying. >> Once I figured out how everything is going and then you I you'll be on your way. I live right here in Pokea. I have to go I I know we're in boy and I know I'm going to take Congress. I'm going to go home to Boon. I'm sorry. Call Bokea. >> Where's your husband? >> He's at home waiting for us. >> Does he have a car? >> No. >> So, how would he get here? >> I'm coming home and get it. >> You can't drive this car. >> I can't. Despite a serious tire issue, she attempted to continue driving, prompting authorities to step in to ensure the safety of everyone involved. Do >> you see this? Is this driveable to you? >> So, let's call him and have him come. >> How would he get here? >> Okay. >> His dad will take him. >> Come over here. >> Oh my god. I want to get home to my kid. >> Your kids in the car. Well, now you can't drive this car and you need to go. I'm going to have you to call your husband to come get your kids, >> right? >> And I'm going with him. >> Okay. Where's your license in your car? I get it. >> Sit right here. I got it. I got it right now. You don't need You're being detained right now. >> I'm not going to jail, sweetheart. >> Can you also be 15 about that yet? Who said anything about jail? I'm going to say you're being detained. >> My kids wanted to go have a good time. >> Did you anything? >> No. >> No. You didn't hit any cars? >> No. Did you hit the curb? >> No. >> So, how did you What happened with your tires? >> Who told you that? >> I just >> He said, she said >> I just showed you to you. I have a flat tire. Maybe there's a rim. Maybe there is a screw in the tire. >> Your rims are shredded like you screw up or something. >> There's a screw, >> right? >> Check my tire. But there's a screw. >> Why you Why would you think there's a screw in the tire? >> Because there was before and we had to keep plugging it. >> You were driving with your defective tires in. >> It's not defective when you plug it. Do you know anything about me? My husband's mechanic. >> Okay, good for you. So, I'm going to ask you some simple questions because I got to make sure that you're okay to go home. Okay. Right. Can just put my hair in my face. >> What am I supposed to do now? >> Nothing. Don't worry about it. >> Do you know where you are? >> I'm in Bo Beach and I'm trying to get back to Berke and we wanted to go to Bu Mall to so that my daughter can do a jumpy that's $8 that we like. So, we were on our way there and then she said she had to go potty. I said, "Okay, let me see if I can stop and do that." >> If you don't mind me asking, are you diagnosed with anything? >> No. >> No, you're just your normal self right now. >> Yeah. You can't drive your car. Honestly, you have to call somebody to come. Either fix your car for you and take your kids home. You're going to have to call your car. >> Okay. I can drive my car. >> You see, you change your tires. I'm not letting you drive your car the way it is, which is >> I will drive it to my candy. >> I'm not letting those kids in the car know the way your car is right now. >> Meanwhile, the officers approached to reassure the two children who were in the car at that time. >> Is your daddy home? >> No, he just walked from work. >> He just walked from work. >> So, my mommy. Also, my mommy. >> Yeah. I'm just making sure her license is good. >> What's wrong with you? >> Nothing's wrong with her. We're just talking to her to make sure she's okay. >> She's been driving a long time for us to get different mall. >> Where you guys going? The mall. >> Yeah, the mall. >> Which mall? >> Like the >> bouncy house? >> Yeah. No, not the bouncy house. The boy mall. >> Boon Mall. >> I got this. >> Spaghettiio? >> Yeah, I had this on my door. >> You like Spaghettiio's? >> I wrote this on my >> Can you girls do me a favor though? Can you just stay in the back there and don't come up front? I just want you guys to stay in your seats over there so you guys stay snug. Okay. Mommy will be leaving there in a little bit. You say your dad is home? >> Yeah. >> Do you know his phone number? >> I want to know his home number on his tablet. His little toddler. >> We may have your dad come uh pick you guys up and I think your mom may be too tired to drive. >> Contact with the children's father was also made quickly and smoothly. >> Hi, >> this is Officer Boy and Beach Police Department. How are you? >> Okay, I heard that. How are you doing? >> I'm good. Um, are you's dad or are you Shane's boyfriend? >> Both. >> Okay. >> Are you okay to drive? >> No. >> All right. All right. We'll call somebody else. >> The witness who made the call also arrived, giving police a detailed account of what he had seen. >> How you doing? What's your name, sir? >> Huh? >> My heart is I'm sorry. >> No, it's okay. What's going on? the kids. Man, >> it's a good thing you call because everything that I'm seeing right now, >> I think she has >> That's what I'm I'm want to make sure I get what what exactly did you see? >> So, I was just coming from my office right off of uh Congress. I got past Wbrite then I saw a lot of smoking, you know, coming like driving coming out from the light and then I see like smoke and then I see a couple right with two kids and they were the kids away. I'm like, what just happened? And then all the smoke coming from the right side tire, right? I'm like maybe just over curb like accidentally, you know, something happened. So then I started paying attention to it and then she if you go back you're going to see that she's all scraped almost like >> any cars or anything like that. >> No shitty cars. She almost ran over the this couple with the family. She made a right and then she was like going over the the curb and then on and off and then I think she got a flat tire. I believe she made a right turn right here at the gas station and then she almost actually for another guy that was just walking. She literally >> I mean I thought she was going to hit me and I went over this guy. So she made that turn and I'm on the phone ready with 911. And then as soon she made this right turn right here and literally just went over the grass and then I thought there was somebody trying to ditch the car. So I made a U-turn came back and it seemed like she was lost like trying to find something inside the car. That's when I say look it's a female. >> So you were behind her car from Woolbrite all the way to >> Oh yeah about about half a mile. I'm telling you if you go back Wbrite and come back north I'm telling you the curb you're going to see a lot of no like five times easily. She was literally going over it on the sidewalk. She went over the sidewalk and this family, two kids, the guy pulled the wife and the two kids cuz you know he >> Yeah, this guy I mean she barely missed them either or there was something going on but then I saw the kids. >> Did you talk to her at all? >> Oh no no no I just went past it and I cuz I didn't know who he was then. Maybe somebody trying to ditch the car so I just I parked right there just stayed there just watching from afar. >> Okay. Let me just get your name real quick if you don't mind. >> Oh no, not at all man. >> Name, phone number and address. I saw that she >> Yeah, we'll take care of it. >> As for the mother, she initially seemed unsure about her condition. Authorities conducted a routine safety check to ensure both her well-being and the safety of the children. >> Is that dad? >> Okay. >> No, it's you can tell him to come here to >> Oh, I thought I was going to take him to the station cuz he doesn't know. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay, ma'am. Again, like I said, you were I was detaining you right now. You're being detained because when I tried to speak to you and ask you for your driver license, you refused. You almost closed the door. >> My hair my sorry. >> Sure. Don't close the door on my hand. That's why you're being detained. Okay. >> I'm sorry. I'm not. I gave me the point. That's beside the point. Right now, I'm conducting a DUI investigation based on everything that I have that believe that you're under DM. So, let's do it. >> I'm not I didn't say that you were drinking. I just asked you if you had anything to drink, which I'm not smelling anything. But I believe that you were under the prescription medication. You said you didn't take. Correct. Okay. >> I did nothing wrong. I'm trying to take my kids out to have a good day. >> You need a license. >> I asked you multiple times. Are you any any medication? Denied every single time. You said you did not take anything medication. You're not >> No, I misunderstood. I don't take anything. I'm not supposed to. >> I'm not trying to. >> How long ago did you take it? >> 3 hours ago. >> Where was this? >> Oh my god. How hard are you guys? >> Why not 7:30? >> At my home. >> So you you came from Mocha and you going to Where you going now? >> I'm trying to take them to have a good time at the Buen Beach. I'm trying to take him to the They have a bouncy thing at Boy Beach Mall and that's the one I want to take them to. >> The mall's was closed at this time. So, I don't know if you're going to watch. >> No, it's not. >> 7:39. The mall is closed at this time. >> Boy Beach. >> Yes, I work here. I know. >> Okay. Well, I'm sure we would have been there if you didn't stop me. >> Here's what I got from a witness that follow your car for for more than a mile. You almost hit multiple people. You kept hitting the curb. Tires over here shredded because you hit the curb so many times. Amar's tires are shredded because you hit the girl. >> You don't even know that you hit the curve. >> I never hit her. Bring that witness here. >> Does he have that on camera? >> All right, don't worry about that. Again, I believe that you're under the influence of the prescription. >> Would you want to do some roadside exercises over here for me so you can dispel my suspicion intoxicated? >> So, what happens if I >> If you don't, I'm going to use my everything that I have so far that I explained to you. I'm going to make this video. I'm going to make that decision whether or not to to arrest you for to DUI based on everything that I have. >> Let's do it. But don't do it in the grass where I can fall in a hole. >> We wouldn't do anything on the grass. >> Let's do it. Come on. Come on. >> Before we get started, I can't let you do that without the handcuff on. So any if you try if you try anything anything as as far as running away cuz you try to close the door on me. Whatever happened after that? That's >> I didn't but I wanted to understand I didn't want to close the door. I wanted in my head, >> but I wanted to I did I just >> While one officer looked after the children, police performed a routine driving assessment and determined it was unsafe for her to continue driving. >> You want to come with me and get something from Dunkin Donuts? Janet, can I get them something from Dunkin Donuts? >> Yeah. Um, so they like strawberry frosted with sprinkles. >> We'll go in there. Come on. Let's go in there. >> Let's go in Dunkin Donuts. Okay. Come on. >> All right. Come on. Let's go this way. Kind of donuts you like. You want to go look? Okay, go look. No, you just want the pink one. >> Okay. >> Hey, ma'am. Do you Do you see this line over here on the line? >> Let's do it. Come on. >> Do you see What color is it? >> Yellow. >> Is it straight? >> So, I see it straight right here, but I see a bird to the left. >> Yeah. I mean, it's not like wavy and curvy, is it? >> It's not >> completely straight. It goes this way and then it goes to the left. >> How about now? >> A little loop. Let's get it done. >> I don't drink. Let's do this. >> Stay over here, man. Do not stop until you you complete the exercise. Okay. >> This this >> I didn't miss. >> Are you kidding me? >> Go ahead. I'm Why you stop? >> You can't do that. >> All right. >> Come over here >> one more time. >> Okay. Sure. >> Come over here, man. Okay. You may begin. I'll do the other one, too. >> Okay. If I say it right, you're going to bring your right arm up. You're going to look at me for a second. Touch the tip of your nose. Return your arm to your side. I'm going to call the next one. Tip of your nose. Turn your arm to your side. You understand? Right. >> Oh, be placed under arrest for DUI. Okay. >> I'm not. >> Yes, you are. Do you have any sharp object on you? >> No. >> You're being placed under arrest for DUI. Okay. You're driving you're driving impaired with two kids in your car, which is not safe. You almost >> I keep >> you also being prisoners for ch times two. >> I wanted to take you to have a good time. >> You kind of saw yourself. That's why I put the towels in inside the car. >> I'm sorry. Can I Can I please talk to you? >> Sure. You can talk. Have a seat when I'm listening to you. >> Can I do the test one more time? >> We passed that point. Have a seat. >> I will literally I'm going to come. Can you take me to a psycho board? >> Good to know. >> I would need to go to psychboard. I need to go to psychord. >> Good to know. >> I'm going to myself. >> Okay. Good to know, man. Where are you going? Where are you going? psychiatrist. >> So, I'll make sure he >> send me to the psych. >> I will I will. >> The father soon arrived to take custody of the children. >> Just get his name and correct correct a complete correct address where the kids are going. I don't know if you know she's being under arrest for DUI, but she's on this >> paperwork for that DUI. >> The problem is >> mixing and driving around. >> Yeah, you can't. The pill bottle clearly says don't operate heavy machinery while you want it. and with your kids in the car cuz I had somebody following her for about a mile and a half where she was driving curbs and almost hitting people most time with your kids more. >> Heavy equipment isn't a vehicle. >> That's that's a heavy equipment. I don't know how long she's going to be in there for. She might be there a little bit longer because she's saying I'm going to just take that lightly. >> She's smart, too. >> I'm probably going to take everything. Uh if you need to go in the car and get whatever belong you need to get out cuz we have to throw the car out. About 15 minutes later, the police brought the mother to the station. There, she appeared distressed and was placed in a holding room to stabilize the situation. Have a seat over here, >> ma'am. God, I just want to get >> Is there any way you can help me? Unfortunately, I cannot help you. >> God damn it. God damn it. >> You know what I must say? Most people kill themselves because cops >> because cop ruined their life. >> I ALSO >> WHY AM I RIGHT IN THE first place? >> Okay. >> Getting thrown. >> I also believe that you were under the influence of your prescription. Do you want to give me a sample or not? >> No. >> So the same >> the same implied consent still apply. You understand that? >> Okay. So refusal time is at 20 56 hours. >> Based on your driving record, you had a prior refusal which I just read to you. So you're also being charged because I wanted my also being charged with refusal DUI charges. Okay. >> We got to put her shoes. >> Okay. Come on in. >> Take your shoes off. Take your shoes off. >> I take my shoes off. I would just like to call my lawyer right now. >> I'm not going to ask you any question. ONCE WE GET TO JAIL, >> you're you are not allowed to freeze me and my lawyer. Like >> once you get to the jail, you'll be looking to make a phone call and you can call your lawyer. Okay? But I'm not going to ask you. I'm not going to talk to you anymore about anything. Do you understand? >> Hold on. I need my phone. Nope. >> Shortly after, a situation developed in the holding room and medical staff provided assistance to ensure her wellbeing. >> You guys take her cuz I got I got to go down there anyway. We'll have somebody go. We'll go with them. >> She's while she's here. Take photos. >> That's why I keep the windows open and everything to clean. Yeah, you follow. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> At the hospital, after regaining clarity, the mother began recounting everything. >> Okay. My name is >> I saw you earlier, but the fire department was talking to you and figured it'd be a better time to talk to you. You feeling a little better? >> It hurts. >> Yeah, I I could see that. >> Can I put this up a little bit? >> Oh, just give one second. One second. We We'll get you up there. What happened? >> Literally an accident. Like I literally like an accident. I literally like was trying to go around a corner. There was a box stuck in front of me and >> No, I'm talking about with your head. >> Well, I I don't know. I fell um as I was in the hole fell and went everywhere, but like the whole incident was I >> We'll get back to that in a sec. Just trying to figure out what happened, how you got the injury, right? >> In the cell the whole >> So, you're in the cell by yourself? >> Yes. Um, literally like they um I hit my head on the back of the on the back. >> Nobody was around you. You were by yourself. >> Police officers were all there. They weren't taking care of me. >> Yeah, but they were in the cell. They weren't in the cell when it happened, right? >> Yes, they were. >> Okay. Okay. So, you're in the cell. You backwards. You hit your head. >> Yes. >> Okay. I had to do a couple photos. I didn't like the photos that they took. I want to make sure. >> I make them look pretty. >> I will make you look pretty. Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Put your hands out like this. I know you're >> Okay. Well, yeah, you're a little a little tied up there. >> The mother identified as Ashes S Leah was taken into custody on charges up of a child with great bodily DUI, driving while license suspended or revoked, and refusal to submit to testing. Under Florida law, she could face up to 15 years and 9 months in prison along with fines of up to $12,500. This video serves as a clear reminder. Being a parent means putting children's safety first, obeying traffic laws, and completely avoiding substances when [music] behind the wheel. An emergency call in West Palm Beach began the search for the parents of a 3-year-old boy. And from there, an unexpected story unfolded. >> Did you hand the child over to him today? >> On August 6th, 2022, West Palm Beach police received an emergency call reporting a young child founded in a parking lot. Officers quickly arrived, calming the child, taking witness statements, and knocking on doors of nearby apartments to find his parents. >> I found a little boy roam in the parking lot, screaming hello like five times. You would think somebody come outside and look for him. I'm not sure if he walked for father cuz nobody coming out looking for him. And I seen him running over there. So I was like, okay, maybe he run to his mom or somebody. >> Uh, how long have you known that he was like out here? Like was it right around the time you called? >> About 15 minutes. And I keep screaming like, "Hello, somebody lost their child or something." Nobody won't like respond. Me and this lady, we um left out here for a while. Never saw him. >> What's up, man? What's your name? Okay, listen. I'm going to put this badge on you, okay? I'm going to make you a police officer right now, okay? You got to help me out. We got to find your mommy. Can we walk and find out where your mom is at? Okay. Yeah, we'll walk around for a little bit. >> Just walk around. Call mommy's over the moon. >> Over the moon. >> Yeah. >> Over the moon. We'll walk around and we'll start knocking on doors. And >> what direction did you see him coming from when I came over there? He came from see that and running top. So I said maybe he >> Oh, like on the other side. >> Okay. I'm starting. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. All right. Let's go walk and knock. You thirsty? >> Where you think your mom's at? >> My mommy's uh o over the teacher. >> She's a teacher? >> Yeah, she's a teacher. >> Look, that's a playground. >> Yeah, >> a playground with somebody. >> I I I went to the playground. >> You went to the playground? >> To the playground. But where which way did you come from? 26. >> Um, Mommy's over there on the moon. >> You keep saying mommy's over here on the moon. >> I went to the stairs. >> Did you stairs? >> Did you come down to go to the playground? >> Yeah, I can't go to playground and the slide. Blue slide. >> Who are you at home with? Mommy up. Is mommy in the house? >> Over that corner. Mommy's all over the lake. >> She's over the lake. >> No, it is not over the lake. But look, that's a water. >> Yeah, >> a waterfall. >> Where do you go to sleep at at night? Where's your room at? Uh, I I go to bed. >> Where's your bed at? >> I I went to West Beach. >> We're in West Palm. >> I went to the playground. >> Okay. >> Here. >> No, not yet. I just start knocking on the door. >> Hey, how you doing? You all didn't lose the kid, did you? >> Okay. Have you ever seen this little guy running around? >> Okay. All right. >> How you doing? Um, do you have a child? How you doing? Are you missing a child? A little child? >> A little boy? >> No. All right. Sweet. >> Okay. They all answered upstairs. >> Yeah, nobody recognized me. >> I I checked all. >> So, I'm going to start over here. >> After many attempts, they reached the mother by phone. However, initial communication with authorities was challenging. >> Palm Beach Police Department. Um, do you know where your son is? >> Um, he's with his dad. >> We believe that we have your son here and he's he was outside by himself. Can you give me dad's info so that we can get him to his parent? I'm going to try to send you a picture of this little boy and can you tell me if this is your son or not? He's about 3 years old saying his first name is Liam. >> Yeah, that's his last name. >> Well, we don't know if he didn't tell us his last name. We found like basically your son's name in a database in our records database. I'm going to let you speak to the child to see if if you recognize the voice. >> Okay. >> Is he in the back? I possibly could possibly have mom on the phone, so I'm going to let her speak to him. Can you talk to Is this mommy? >> Is that mommy? >> Mommy. >> Hi, my baby. What's wrong? >> He's not speaking. So, does that sound like your son, ma'am? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, can you provide me with the phone number so that we can get dad and have him come so he can have a child? >> I don't have um his phone number. >> Okay. How do you all communicate? >> We just communicate. >> Okay. How >> Who does she stay with over here? >> She's saying the father doesn't live here. So, are you in the city of West Palm Beach right now? Can you come get your child? >> Sure. >> Okay. >> Um where are you at? >> When's the last time you had the child, ma'am? >> Today. Okay. And you gave him to the father at what time? >> 7 >> around 700 p.m. or 7:00 a.m. >> Have you left your your hotel or are you still there? >> No, I'm I'm still here. >> Okay. >> I've only been here for a couple of hours. >> Okay. >> When meeting in person, the conversation between police and the mother [music] revealed details suggesting the difficulties she was experiencing. >> Hi, >> how you doing? We called about your your child. your child that's missing. >> Did you know that he was missing? >> No. >> He's supposed to be with his dad. >> Do you know where we found him? >> Well, they said no. >> Okay. Where is your room? >> Okay. Who is in there with you? >> Nobody's in there. >> You're here with who? >> Well, it's me and my son, but >> you just said that you and your son were >> We came here and he was his dad. You just said the room is for you and your son, but then you dropped your son off to the father. >> Where did you drop the >> You dropped him off here. >> Okay. Where is your Where is Andy at now? >> I don't know. >> If you don't mind me asking, how did you communicate with dad to facilitate that meeting today? >> Let me get a Miranda car. Sergeant, >> do you have any other kids? >> Yeah. >> Where are they? >> I have another son, but he's with my uncle. >> Where do you actually live? I live on my >> Why do you have a room right down the street? >> Just to get away. >> To get away from what? >> Just to get away and just relax. >> He's just going to ask you some more questions, but before we turn the child back over to you, we're going to have to make sure everything is good here with we're going to have to check your room. We're going to have to check your car and everything. >> Even as the police began explaining the Miranda rights, the mother still appeared confused when speaking about her responsibility to care for her child. >> All right, so first um I'm going to read this. This is a Miranda warnings. Okay. I'm required to warn you before you make any statements that you have the following constitutional rights. You have the right to remain silent and not answer any questions. Do you understand? >> Any statement can and may be used against you in a court of law. Do you understand? >> Yes. >> Okay. If at any time during the interview you do not wish to answer any questions, you are privileged to remain silent. Do you understand? >> All right. You understand? I'm asking you these questions and I'm I've been on the phone with you. It was me that you were speaking to. I've been on the phone with you because I'm trying to assess cuz as of right now, I'm concerned for the well-being of the child. Let's start from the beginning. Everything all the way up to uh now. So, you woke up at 7:00 a.m. And where where did you wake up? Where where did you sleep last night? >> It was at another >> So, are you currently just living from hotel to hotel right now? >> I just been like um just trying to get away. >> Okay, understandable. Who do you currently live with? >> My uncle. >> Your uncle. Um where where is that? >> Um I'm not sure because he was >> I can't hear you, man. >> I'm not sure. >> You're not sure what >> where he is. >> No, no, no. Where were you staying today? You said this morning you woke up at your uncle's residence. >> No, I didn't wake up there. >> Well, you said at another hotel. My apologies. But you currently live with your uncle. >> Yeah. >> Where? >> What happened to you? >> This is all so I can understand and so that we can know if this happens again where we can come and find you so that we can give you the child. >> It won't happen again. >> Sure. >> I just don't you say I don't have to answer such a question. >> But this is the thing, man. Nothing is really making sense right now. basically your explanation of how things happen. We understand things happen. Okay. However, when somebody is being very evasive when we're trying to help them, it looks bad, very bad, especially when it invol involves a child. So, I'm just trying to basically get your side so that I can understand why it is we got involved today and why it is that you know Liam is outside by himself, doesn't know where he is. Okay. He's supposed to be with his dad. Is there like a court order or anything like that? >> Okay. How do you all often communicate? By phone. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. >> Meanwhile, information about the boy's father remained unknown. >> I don't understand why you're uneasy right now. I'm giving you the opportunity. I'm just trying to listen it. I can understand if you were in handcuffs or something. Then like, yeah, of course, it's a reason to be uncomfortable. You're in handcuffs. But that's not the case. I just need your side of the story so that I can document in my report that's going to go to DCF why this unfortunate event happened. Just please explain. >> I can't hear you. I'm sorry. >> Okay, tell me about that. How is he supposed to be with his dad? So, you called him today? Did he call you? What is something like that? Explain it. Did he call you or did you call him? It wasn't really like just um not really text. It's kind of like text. I don't know. >> I don't understand. It was kind of text message, but it wasn't text message. >> Something like that. >> So, what is it? >> Huh? >> Your phone. It's on, right? >> Yeah. >> Cuz I called you. So, I know you can accept calls and you can you can call. Okay. So, is that what happened today with the father or what? Or did he call you or did he text you? >> It was like um something like that, but it was like it was something like that. >> Okay. So, it was more so through people. Okay. What people? >> Godly people. >> What? >> More so through godly people. Who are some godly people like me? Did you speak directly to the father today? >> Someone. >> Someone. Is he a yes or no? Did you see the father today? Did you see him today? Did you hand the child over to him today? >> What's kind of Can I have his phone number so that I can call him? When's the last time you spoke to him? >> I deleted it. >> You deleted it? Can you show me your car logged in? >> Do I have to show you? >> You don't have to. I'm just asking. >> The police had to take the necessary steps. From there, details about the family gradually came to light. Step out. I want to talk to you. Thank you. Let's put this up. Turn around. >> Put your hands behind your back. You're under arrest. Okay. Put your hands together like a prank. >> Under arrest. Okay. >> Why? >> Have you ever heard of child? >> Yeah, but um I didn't my child. >> Do you know what that means? Can you explain what child is? >> You don't take care of your kids. >> All right. Walk with me. Keep walking. See the 911? Stand right in front of the 911. Where is his his father? His father is Andy. Is that right? Or is it Herbert? >> Well, um >> what what what >> Herbert is his biological father. >> What what do you think we meant by father when we asked you that question before? >> Who's in Connecticut? >> Like who's who's there? Who's around him? >> Who is his father? It's not a trick question unless you don't know >> his um >> who is his biological >> his biological >> chromosome father. >> He is where? >> He's in another state. >> Okay. So, who were you supposed to that you told us you dropped your child off to? You said Andy. Is Andy a boyfriend? >> Well, >> he's your husband. >> Where's his number in here? >> Oh, I deleted it. >> You deleted your husband's phone number. >> Well, you surely must know it by heart. >> She said they spoke on the phone today, so it should be on the call up. >> Which one is his number? >> I deleted it. >> You deleted Andy, who is not the biological father, but he's who? Somebody that you were supposed to drop your son off to. This guy doesn't exist. According to us, this guy doesn't exist. Do you know his full name? Or did you delete that, too? >> No, I know his name. >> What's his full name? >> Where does he live? >> I'm not sure. >> You don't know his You don't know anything about him? >> Um, >> can you look up what she's talking about? Maybe. >> Have a seat, ma'am. >> Okay. Check it. >> Okay. >> A little later, her relatives arrive to pick up the boy, unable to hide their surprise at her evasive statements. Police also spoke with them about legal [music] procedures and informed them that DCF would be involved. >> Are you Laurel? >> Yes, sir. >> How you doing? Sergeant Gats with West Palm Beach Police Department. >> The baby's okay though. >> We have the baby. >> Okay. >> So, we get a call in this complex right over here. Okay. >> Um I don't know if you're really familiar with this area. >> Florida. I moved to Florida like 2 years ago because of her. She has been going through last year. I think West Palm Beach got put her in the hospital. She's been staying with me ever since DCF, but she's been having this stuff in her head from the other day. >> How long ago is this? last week. >> So I told her that this is a very statement statement that could get somebody in trouble. So she >> did she report this to DC? >> I'm not sure. That's her son, right? >> 15year-old. >> Yeah. >> She just left cuz she been staying with me still. Said she's going to go to a hotel. I said, "You don't need to go to a hotel. You need to go get yourself a job and get your own place and she has she hasn't been home for for the last 4 days." >> She put him out. Oh, just stay over here around the corner. That's what she told him. He entered into that complex. There's a canal. You could see the busy road. You know, anybody could have scooped him up, but he was walking. Somebody found him and said, "Hey, this this three-year-old's walking by himself." So, we've been knocking on doors for hours over here. She's giving us weird statements about how her I dropped him off to his his his father, Andy. And I'm like, Andy? >> Then she finally comes clean. She's like, "Yeah, Herbert's in Connecticut or whatever." We're like, "Who's Andy?" And she doesn't have his phone number. She can't tell us where he lives. Is that true? >> She She lives with me. >> How you doing? I'm >> So you're a sister? >> Yeah. >> Where is he? >> He actually got taken to McDonald's by the other officer cuz he was hungry. He's coming back. >> Oh my god. >> He's coming back. She's being arrested tonight for child. >> Okay. Basically, the kid was wondering for hours right over here. >> Hours? >> Yeah. And she's incoherent with We don't know what's going on. She's telling us a lie, some lies, but um if if you're willing to take the child >> Yeah. >> Do we know who Andy is? >> That's who she was saying the father or something was. Something like that. The father is over. >> She said the father name is Andy. >> Yes. >> What the hell? >> Yeah. She just gave us a different name. >> They're just checking your history now. Um we just have to do it just before we release them to you. But DCF will make contact with you all within 4 hours. So you'll probably see us again cuz we'll have to go with them for the intake. Took him to McDonald's, got him something to eat. He doesn't have any like complaining pain or anything like that. He's ready to lay down. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. The mother faced with a charge of child. Under Florida law, if convicted, [music] she could face up to 5 years in prison or probation along with a fine of up to $5,000. This incident highlights the importance of parental responsibility, clear communication among all parties involved, and the essential role of law enforcement in protecting children. There are times when adults say, "I was also struggling. I was exhausted." Or, "I [music] didn't know what to do." But for children, those reasons cannot undo the impact that has already occurred. Today's cases show that compassion is necessary, but it [music] cannot replace responsibility. The law does not ask parents to be perfect. It asks for a basic level of safety for children. When that line is crossed, consequences are difficult to avoid. The video ends, but the question remains, how far should society extend [music] compassion, and where must it draw clear boundaries so that no child is left behind? [snorts] Heat. Heat. N. [music] >> [music]