That's a freaking [music] bogus ass charge and you [ __ ] know it. >> it, not me. >> No, I didn't do anything. I got out of the vehicle. >> There's a saying that goes headstrong but dead wrong. And no other profession is that more apparent than running into people who push the limits so far that they argue with the officer all the way through the stop straight into handcuffs and directly to jail. This is one of those. This batch will see. So right here, I just want you to take a look at something that's really interesting from a car stop. And officers who are aware, look at this. You can see the driver and how intently they are looking back at the officer. Another reason why I prefer [music] the passenger side approach, although you can see them in the other mirror. I just take note of how intently they're watching me during my approach. And then most officers who are sharp do the same. >> Hi, how can I help you? How's it going? Liberty County Sheriff's Office. I'm just stopping you for the stop sign there at Walnut. You just kind of rolled straight through it, okay? I don't I don't want nobody to get hit. People ride bikes and stuff through here, okay? I rolled through the stop sign? Yeah, and pretty blatantly. Okay, I don't recall doing that at all. >> That's fine. I watched you do it. Do you have your license, registration, and insurance? Yeah, I do. The positioning again back behind the B pillar. I'm always going to mention it cuz to me it's not tactically advantageous, especially now she's digging inside of her purse. What is she reaching for? We don't know. >> I'll show you my license. I don't ever let anyone hold it. Well, I need it, so I'm required to show it to you. Okay, I need it so I can go run your information. There's my information, right? >> your Give me your driver's I'm not doing this. Sir. Ma'am. I'm not required to >> me. No, sir. I need I am not required to give it 314-769 This is definitely going poorly. From a tactical perspective, I'd like to mention that the officer walked with his back completely, never kept his eye on this aggressive person who's driving. Can we do both? Can we walk and look and keep an eye on this person? I've mentioned this in videos before. Tactical perspective, want to keep an eye on a person and make it feel uncomfortable that we keep our back to them for any extended period of time. Copy. Talk to me. She's refusing to give me her ID. Says she doesn't have to give it to me. No. Yeah, so we'll see how this goes. You want me to talk to her? Nah, I mean You try. She's just I don't know why she's doing >> That's fine. I mean, you can look at the information, but Can you hand me your >> No, sir. I'm I don't >> phone Dial-A-Defense and [snorts] we've seen that the Dial-A-Defense gives horrible advice. >> Here's my license. Here Here's my Can you hand me your license? >> not hand you my license. I am not required to hand you in your hand >> Okay, so listen, I'm going to tell you what's going to happen is I'm going to call for a supervisor and he's going to tell you that you're going to give me your license. Got No, no, sir. And step out for the time being because listen to me. >> respect, sir, no, sir. >> me. Yes. Yes, ma'am. No, sir. No, sir. Step out, please. No, no, sir. >> out. Excuse me. >> Step out, please. >> No, sir. >> Yes, you are uncooperative. I would like you to exit your vehicle. Yes, I I don't want to talk to you. I'll speak to him. >> my traffic stop. I I don't care. You don't >> I need you to step out. Yes. >> You'll just have to wait a second. >> No, I don't. It's not on your timing, it's on mine. >> No, it's not, sir. >> There's United States case law Pennsylvania versus Mims. >> care what that means. What am I under arrest >> for? 314. Can you have a supervisor now? What am I under arrest for? >> just just hear me out for a second. I I am. He's asked you to step out of the vehicle. Whether you agree with it or not, that's a lawful command, okay? So Just If you step out and comply, we can, you know, wrap this up. It probably would even been a warning. You probably wouldn't even gave you a whatever he pulled you over for. This is Can I say something? >> go ahead. I'll hear you out. He asked for my driver's license. I showed it to him. I know for a fact that I'm not required by law to give it to him in his hand. So where's Where's your driver's license currently? My driver's license is right here. Okay. That's my driver's license. I showed it to him. Because I'm driving a motor vehicle, I'm required to show you my license if you ask for Do you mind if I get that? But I I don't have to give it to you. I don't ever hand anybody original documents in their hand. >> Okay, do you mind if I get your license so I can run you? There it is right there. I'll show it to you. There There's my license right there. There's my name right there. I'll show it to you, but I'm not I don't ever hand it over. I've lost licenses that way and I don't do that. >> as soon as you hand it over, I'll give it right back, okay? Sir. I don't hand It's probably just going to be a warning and we'll get you out of here, but you're mak- you're making this more difficult. >> hand I I don't hand my documents out. >> at this point at this point I'm asking you to step out of the vehicle, okay? >> Okay, and I will. So go ahead and step out right now at this moment. Because I've I've I've tried the nice approach and now you're not listening. >> to touch anything in my vehicle. Okay. So go ahead and step out or I'm going to pull you out of the vehicle at this point. >> I'm going to step out, but you don't have permission to touch anything in my >> Can I explain something to you very fast? What's up? >> I am very knowledgeable in this, okay? If you let me talk, I'll let If you let me talk, I will let you talk. There's United States case law Pennsylvania versus Mims. If you are ordered to exit your vehicle on a traffic stop by a law enforcement officer, you must do so. >> but you don't have permission to touch anything in my vehicle. When my supervisor gets here, I'll be getting your driver's license. No, you won't, sir. It's in my vehicle. You don't >> there on the hood of that vehicle, okay? So this is something good that I'd like to mention that the backup officer, he attempted to de-escalate the situation. And sometimes handing it off to another officer if you get off to a bad start with a person, it is a tool that police can utilize. And if he can de-escalate the situation, good. This lady's being very obtuse. She's wrong in everything she's saying because it's clear. In fact, I look at the back of a Florida driver's license, a valid one, it says the state of Florida retains all property rights herein. And the last revision on the most recent license that I'm seeing March 1st of 2020. This occurred after that. So the license that a person has is actually property of the state. The officer's acting on behalf of the state. The words that she's getting caught up in is present the license, which is a semantics argument that I presented by just showing me. Is this like a hill that you want to die on? Is this a argument you want to make to give the officer your license? It doesn't make sense that adults act this way. You don't have permission >> have any weapons on your person? No, I don't. >> What? No, I do not. You don't have permission to touch anything in my vehicle. >> Is that your car? Yes, it is. So I'm just going to I just want to start start here. I feel like we got off on the bad foot. What's your reasoning for not wanting to give your license? >> I never hand over original documents to anybody. I I carry copy I don't have the copies with me, but I have paper copies of things that I'll show you, but I will not hand >> Is there a reason? >> Yes, because I've lost things that way before. Okay. You lost them, though, not us, right? I have lost original documents by handing them over before. I will not do that again. >> in his hand right there? Those are not original documents? No, I Those are papers. I can get more of those. I have more of those. But they're original documents. They're copies. It's clear this woman is confused about what her rights actually are in this situation. Just like how every year countless people find themselves confused when trying to find the right Medicare plan that works for them, which is exactly why Chapter was created. Because if you've ever dealt with Medicare, you already know how overwhelming it can be. And as a result, possibly millions of people are on the wrong plan without even knowing it. 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He's being extraordinarily patient with this lady. He even used "May we start over again?" which is phenomenal to de-escalate a situation. But she doesn't want to start over, she wants to keep on the same track. But in fairness, I have to say that I have accidentally held onto people's driver's license before. And I'm not saying this is in her defense, and I know other cops have done it before. It's not a reason to not give an officer your license. I'm just I'm just saying I know what my rights are. 100% Yeah, I know your rights, too. I'm I'm certified in the state of Florida as a LEO officer. I know rights. I know case law. I know everything. That's excellent. Because right now >> So I just I just don't understand >> He's violating my rights right now. >> Yeah? Yes. Explain to me how. He's say he First of all, he lied to me saying that I have to hand my license over. No, I don't. I don't have to give it to him in his hand. He wants to get mad that I don't I didn't ask for your opinion. I asked how your right rights are being violated. I just told you. That's It's not an opinion, it's a fact. But it's okay. Okay. Um I'm sorry you feel that way about how whatever you got going on with your original documents, but that's unfortunately not how the law works. I know what the law is. Okay. Hey, you know I know I don't have >> A lot of people A lot of people Do you think they know the law or not? I mean, most people I have to show it. I don't have to give it to him in his hand. I If they ask for anything of mine, a passport, a driver's license, I'll show you soft copies or I'll show you paper copies. Nobody Nobody gets the original. All right. You want to run it? There's the information on my driver's license right there. Right. Type it in your computer, run it. But I don't have to give it to you to take back to your car. Sit there in front of your computer and run it. Okay. And is that That's your opinion. Did you pull her over for resisting? No, I don't. Okay, what did you get pulled over for you then? He's saying that I ran a stop sign or or I I don't know what he's saying. He's saying that I rolled through a stop sign. That's what he's saying. Okay. That's fine. So, I still haven't heard anything that would violate your rights. I'm still trying to I'm still not tracking on that aspect. I'll get a lawyer and lawyer up. Okay. Cuz you're saying your rights were violated because he's saying you have to he has to give you your license, right? Does he Is he in possession of your license? No, but he's threatening me with arrest if I don't hand it to him. >> Well, that's not what the arrest threat was for. He didn't make any threats. He stated that you would be arrested if you didn't step out of the vehicle. >> This is all on your body 100%. We're It'll get sorted. >> You would You would have been arrested if you didn't step out of the vehicle is what he said. Okay, well, I'm here right now. >> Right. So, here we are. You're here. Your rights are not been violated. He doesn't have your license. >> camera, but whatever. We'll deal with it in court if you want. What exactly are we waiting for here? What is it? What are we waiting for here? We're waiting for the tow for the duration of the stop. Okay, yes. >> partner's not conducting his business. You're not free to leave. Okay, so I'm detained and you can only detain me for like 20 minutes unless you're going to arrest >> detained since since you were stopped, yeah. Okay, so we're about 15 minutes into it. >> Assuming you know that case law too, right? >> Okay, she's 100% wrong. There is a US Supreme Court case, US versus Sharp with an E on the end. And this US Supreme Court has ruled very clearly that there's no bright line time limit on how long the officers can stop a person during their investigation. However, they have to be diligently pursuing their investigation and not prolonging it for anything other than that investigation. There's another case that's interesting to know as well, Rodriguez versus US. Which means if the police pull a person over for example, a traffic violation and they're writing them a citation, they can't prolong that stop or go on a fishing expedition by like getting canine out to extend the time of the stop. The stop is as long as it takes to write that citation and they can't divert from that time to try to extend it for a canine unit to arrive to start a new collateral investigation. So, two cases to check out, the Sharp case and the Rodriguez case. Very interesting reads. The time and the investigation diligent can extend them. >> I don't have to answer that. I'm not going to answer that. I'm not answering the question. Does it take that long to run a tag, to run my name? Cuz that's all he's doing in there. I don't know what else we're waiting for here. Cuz I need to be on my way. Can you turn around, place your hands behind your back, please? What am I being arrested for? >> arrest for resisting. Resisting what? What am I charged with? Resisting. Obstruction of law enforcement. Put your hands behind your back like you're praying. I'm being arrested for resisting. Put your hands behind your back like you're praying. Let go of him. Just put your hands up. So, what's my original charge at the time >> resisting obstruction. If I'm resisting, then I have to be charged with I have to be arrested for something and I was resisting. I don't know who educated you, but that is not even close to correct. Do you have anything on you, any weapons or anything like that? No. Okay. We're going to tow your vehicle. >> How was I resisting? I I gave you multiple lawful commands to exit your vehicle and Can I finish a sentence ever? I gave you multiple lawful commands to provide you provide me your driver's license and exit your vehicle in which you told me no numerous times. I said no to my driver's license. I exited the vehicle. Yes. Um I'd like to I'd like to roll up the window to my vehicle. So, let me explain a little bit of what I believe her confusion is and I'm not 100% sure, but I've heard this before. Where a person is like, "How are you arresting me for resisting arrest? You have to tell me what I was arrested for first cuz I can't resist arrest if I'm not arrested." The confusion that people have is when they hear resisting, they think it means that the elements have to be from an arrest. Sometimes in certain jurisdictions, the elements are an obstruction type of the officer's investigation and those two ride together. So, the arrest part is what the person is getting confused with. She thinks she has to be arrested when it's more of the obstruction interference stuff, which were the elements of her not cooperating with the officer's initial investigation. That is my belief and many times people get confused in that. So, we're going to be doing inventory search to make sure there's nothing valuable inside before the tow truck navigates here. Okay, well, they cannot search my vehicle without my permission. Listen, we don't need your permission because we're towing it and you are a place Can I speak? Because you are under arrest and we're towing your vehicle, per our policy, we are required to conduct an inventory search of your vehicle to make sure there's nothing of value in there that the tow truck or wherever can ultimately become missing or stolen later. That's why we are required to do an inventory search. So, would you like any belongings to take to the jail? That's going to be the last time I ask. values and or things that could be potentially dangerous, hazardous materials as well. If they put in a tow yard, could blow up, cause a fire. Those are kind of the main reasons for those inventory searches. I'm trying to be nice. Um yeah, I'll take my whole purse. I'll take Actually, you know what? Who's going to do the search of my vehicle? Excuse me, officer. Excuse me, officer. Get out of my vehicle, please. Come on. Excuse me, officer. Get out of my vehicle, please. >> like? All right, so you're going to get your purse and your phone. I Actually, leave it in my vehicle. Put Put my stuff back. You don't have permission to go in there. Put my stuff back. >> Okay. Do you have anything on you at all? It doesn't look like you have pockets. >> I'm not going to even answer that question again. I've already answered it. I already know that. I know that. Okay. Listen Listen real quick. I'm going to pat you down with the back of my hand to prevent any type of groping or anything like that, okay? >> There's supposed to be a female officer here. >> not have one anywhere near here. So, that's why I am going to pat you with the back of my hand to make sure you have nothing on you sharp. That's all it is. I'm not going into You clearly don't have pockets. >> guys are really crooked and corrupt. No. No. No. It's okay. It's okay to not have knowledge in a certain area. That's why we try to educate. >> You know nothing about me. Nothing at You know everything. Go ahead and hop in. So, sometimes back of the hand, some departments suggest to use an object just to brush the outer parts of the clothing. Obviously not a penetration type, but just over the outer areas where a person could potentially have a weapon. >> Yeah, that He needs to get out of my vehicle. He's doing an illegal search of my vehicle. No. He needs They need to get out of my vehicle. I have said on your body cam multiple times they do not have permission to get in my vehicle. >> All right. Well, you're going to the Green Roof Inn instead. I don't I hope you didn't turn that camera off. I hope that you're watching I hope that all of that's on. They are conducting an illegal search of my vehicle right now. I said multiple times they do not have to search my vehicle and they're doing it anyways. This is the most corrupted sheriff's office and officers I have ever encountered in my entire life. It's absolutely disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. >> You want these sunglasses? >> You just conducted an illegal search of my vehicle. I hope that that dash cam Yeah, I do. They come with you or the car? You know what? Put everything in my car. You don't have the right to touch anything in my vehicle. Nothing at all. You people are disgusting. You're absolute crooks. You're disgusting. This is all going to court. Every single bit of it. You people are disgusting. You're disgusting. You're wrong. You are absolutely corrupt. You guys are corrupt as [ __ ] All right. Oh, crap. You know this is in the car too, right? You are so corrupt. You just violated my rights like You people are dirty as I don't know if you learned your rights from like >> No, you're dirty as I don't know if you learned it from like TikTok or something, but that With all due respect, I have family members in this agency. You people are dirty as All right. Whatever you say. Okay. Now Go ahead, close it. I don't want to see your ugly face. She has no chill. This She doesn't even slow down. She just keeps on this way and it gets even worse when they get to jail. >> I'm checking. Your name Christine? >> Dirty ass. I'm not answering any of your questions. All right. You deserve to be on the other side of these bars. That's a freaking bogus ass charge and you [ __ ] know it. No, I didn't do anything. I got out of the [ __ ] vehicle. I got out of the damn vehicle. I don't have to give you my license. I'm not going to give it to you. I'll show it to you. Type in the information in your computer. All right. >> Okay? You want to arrest me because I didn't get out of the vehicle the first time you asked me to? You're correct. >> You are [ __ ] up. >> Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I know I am. Dirty ass. Have you been arrested before? >> I'm not answering any of your questions. I invoke my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. I want a lawyer. >> that one. That's good. Low down dirty lying sexist all of you. All right. Right. And I think you know it. I don't know how you sleep at night, but you're going to pay for everything, all of your misdeeds in this life. You're going to pay for all of them. >> Yeah, I know. Sick as Don't commit crimes. >> You I didn't commit a crime. You're the one that's committing a crime. Yeah, you're right. Is that all you've got? Yeah, that's all you want to hear. Sick. That's what you want to hear. You're right. >> That's all you're You are sick. >> You're right. You're sick as [ __ ] telling me not to commit crimes. I'm a law-abiding citizen. You are a dirty, crooked, corrupted cop. >> I know you're right. That is what you are. You're right. >> I know damn well I am. Go ahead, smirk and laugh about it. Karma's a [ __ ] [ __ ] Yeah. So, now, if you don't hand over your license, even if you show it to him, which is your only requirement and obligation, if you don't hand it over to them, they'll get pissed and then they'll make up some charge to arrest you just because you pissed them off. Nice. I bet you feel real good about yourself. Well, I actually didn't want to arrest you, to be honest. Then why did you? Cuz you resisted. Cuz you thought I was being a little [ __ ] Cuz I didn't resist. So don't lie and say I did. It's all on camera. You're correct. Absolutely correct. >> Good. Absolutely. >> Cuz I didn't resist. You're right. When you're trying to arrest somebody and they resist, that's resisting. >> Not true. Yes, true. >> incorrect. I don't know where you got that from. >> Resisting what? Resisting your freaking order to hand over my license? >> Exactly. There you go. >> No, I don't have to hand you my license. I showed it to you. >> I don't have to give it to you. That's my personal property. >> I don't I'm not going to give it to you. I didn't even have to have my window rolled down. I could have just held my license up to the glass. Okay. I guess you didn't see what happened last time someone did that. Do you think I care? What are you going to do? Break the glass to my car and rip me out? >> Exactly. Yes. No, we don't live in a fascist country just yet. >> You're right. You're right. Not quite yet. >> You're correct. >> We're almost there. >> You're correct. You guys are dirty as Dirty. Lowest of the low. Ma'am, I'm going to ask you a few questions before you come in. Um, are you currently intoxicated? Do you feel like you are? Nope. All right. Anything on you that you should not have, like a pocket knife, any needles, weapons of any kind? Like guns, bullets, lighters, pills, powders, anything like that? Nope. All right. If we do find something that you didn't just tell us about, it will be an additional charge, but you said no, so that's good. Do you feel like killing yourself? I'm not answering any more questions. If you don't at least answer that question, we do have to put you in a ga- in a suicide smock when you come in, so it would benefit you just to tell us if you are or are not feeling suicidal. No. Okay. She has quite the attitude. So do you. I remember you from last time. >> This attitude never ever works. We saw the obstructing, resisting type charge that the officer mentioned that she was booked for, which is a misdemeanor. But then you get your car towed and all this stuff that you have to go through. And I looked at the timestamps and it looks like it was about 45 minutes from the time she got placed in the car to the time that she arrived at the jail. That's not a fun position to sit in. If you know someone who feels this way about interacting with law enforcement, send them this video. Because if you don't agree with something, there are places to do it, not on the roadside. It's not a win. She got maxed out because of her attitude and because she was completely non-compliant. She earned that arrest. Do better. Look through the catalog of videos that we have because there's quite a bit of police information that [music] you can learn from and discuss in the comment section. Let me know if you think that she should have just gotten a ticket and been on her way because they call this a pissing off the police type of situation where you piss off the police and they max you out on the charges because you didn't get along. 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