Um, I think I'm going to um, Dad is asking me about something that Jim asked me like but I feel like oh my god. No, don't say anything on the phone. Don't. Like I said about the truth, he asked me if I if he asked me about a jury trial or not. Don't answer that question. Okay. >> I just pray that he's okay with maybe like moving just to a different city so I don't have to see that [ __ ] Yeah. He doesn't want to move far because of the job. He likes his job which I understand. I mean So but he's okay with getting out of here. But I'm not going to I I I just don't want to take Danny out of school yet. You know? Oh man, I wish I could talk to you in private. There's some [ __ ] being posted online. Your mind will be blown. >> Why can't you tell me? >> Just because I just because I just can't. >> Because you're being called online? >> There's some people people making comments and stuff stuff and things we got to look into and whatnot. It's but this is crazy. >> Hello. >> Hey. >> Did you see my message last night? >> Yeah, what the heck were you trying to squeak in a phone call? >> Yeah. >> That was so cute. I knew it. I was going to send you a message saying you tried to squeak in a phone call to say good night but I saw your message. >> Um, I think I'm going to um, Dad is asking me about something that Jim asked me like but I feel like oh my god. No, don't say anything on the phone. Don't. Like I said about the truth, he asked me if I if he asked me about a jury trial or not. >> Don't answer that question. >> Okay. >> When did he send that? >> Okay. >> Okay, do you know what time? Huh? >> No. >> Okay. Just don't answer. Just respond back. Um he don't say good morning, lovey. It's from >> I said, "Where am I Oh my god, so do you Is she on my message about um that other guy?" >> Yes, how'd you find that out? >> Cuz he told me. He said, "Are you Okay, he said, 'Are you okay with the fact that I'm 43? I work as a production supervisor for a court reporting firm.' What is that? >> I don't know, but can be you know this is global news, right? >> Yeah. >> Don't talk to anybody. >> Don't talk to anybody. >> No. >> And then I didn't answer him. Oh my god, hold on. Let me throw this away. This is the most disgusting [ __ ] I ever ate. Hold on. Okay. >> Yeah, don't don't >> And then he texted again and said, "If you want to talk." and gave me his number. And told me his schedule. And then he texted me again. And then he texted me again cuz I'm not answering him. >> Right. >> And said, "I hope you're able to get some sleep. Call me tomorrow if you like. 8:30 a.m. to 3:00. I'm usually available. I'm here for you." Like he just like texted me heavily. >> Uh-uh. But just don't Don't talk to anybody you don't know. Okay? >> I will. >> That sucks. I thought that maybe been like a little fun little fun time. I don't give a [ __ ] >> I'm already talking to Kevin. He cool as [ __ ] >> Well, still don't tell him anything either cuz we don't know who he is. He could be that, too. >> [sighs] >> How'd you sleep? >> I slept better. >> Good. Okay, I think I'm going to clock in for the people get their aid, I think. Don't forget your food box today. >> Huh? >> They all seem very nice. The people on the phone all seem very nice. And I also I I need to speak in code. And you can't ask me why. You just need to hear me. >> Okay. >> Okay? Um Don't be mean to Jim. Okay? >> Okay. >> And that's all I'm going to say because he's got a good heart and he's very good at what he does. >> Okay. >> That's all I need, okay? >> We can agree to disagree, but I'm not going to be mean to him. >> Okay. There. There you go. And then when we as we are able to talk in person, I'll go into a little bit more about it, but okay? So. Anyway, was Mom quiet last night? >> Yeah. She was talking for a little bit, but then she just shut the [ __ ] up for once. >> Oh, good. That's good. Any other messages? Or did you check messages yet? >> I'm checking my email right now. >> Oh. Who is that again? >> Um Alice. >> Wait. Stop. What happened last night with crazy What was the craziness in the with the girl in the shower? >> Huh? Oh, I don't know. She just wouldn't get out the shower. I don't know. >> Really, your face looked like uh like she was totally freaking out. What was she doing? >> I don't know. She just like the staff was like it's cuz the staff was looking like that, but she just like I don't know. >> Okay. So, it was no big deal. But of course, you know, that [ __ ] always happens even in juvie. That kind of [ __ ] always happens right when the phone call's about to end. And then I don't know what goes on. >> Blunder, true crime audio. You listen. That was said. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, that's what's up. He's like sending me hella messages that when like Oh, this is what um Kevin said. So, we're talking about Heinen's cuz he works at Heinen's when he's not in the army. >> Oh, fun. >> And he like Come on. He said, "I really like the company. They treat their employees really well. I'll be back in sometime in September." "I've been here close to a year. I'm ready to come back." "I read a little bit, but I'm selective. I only read non-fiction. I love books about survival." "Oh, Michelle Knight, called Finding Me. He wants me to read that called Finding Me." >> I told you I had that in my car. Remember I had that? I had it with me. >> Really? >> Yeah, I had that with me when we came to visit the patient. >> Oh my god. >> Because of that girl, if that girl can overcome all that [ __ ] anybody can do anything. >> He said, "You probably don't remember, but it happened a while back. You were younger, but the girl from Cleveland I'm missing. It's an incredible story. I read it. I was like I shouldn't complain about anything cuz she had it so rough." >> That's right. I have it here. I was going to get like a chill. Woo. It's right here on the stairs. Right here. Michelle Knight, Finding Me. Right there on the stairs. >> Oh, he said, "My real passion is movies." >> Go ahead. Oh, he's talking. He's like He said, "I love movies. My real passion is movies, though." "Oh, yeah. Me and him going to get along. >> What do you say? >> Blender true crime audio. >> Wait, H E I N Heinens? How do you spell Heinens? >> Uh hold on, let me see. What's that spell? You know, you got to spell stuff out sometimes. Hold on. H E I N E N S >> Okay. >> Mhm. And I can do it Michelle Knight was a prisoner for what? 20 years? 15 20 years? Horatious things were happening to her. And she's okay. Not only that, but she's using what happened to her to help other people. too. >> Huh, that's a Yeah, I want to have I'm going to tell them I'm going to get that. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, I'm going to read that book after I read my other book. >> I wish I could It takes so long for books to come though. I wish I knew what was happening next week. Oh man, I wish I could talk to you in private. There's some [ __ ] being posted online. Your mind would be blown. >> Why can't you tell me? >> Just because I just because I just can't. >> But it's being posted online. There's some things >> There's some people people making comments and stuff stuff and things we got to look into and whatnot. It's but it's a crazy. But don't My point is is don't lose. What did they tell you you got to go back already? >> No. >> Oh. Good. And then this one lady reshared your story. >> Hold on. This one lady reshared your story and she's like, "I don't understand how this was intentional." Like her lawyer said she doesn't remember. Like how do you go to jail for life and when something happened you don't even remember? Like there's got to be more going on. >> Let people see. >> Yep. Yep. >> [sighs] >> So. >> Ooh. My back is killing me. Wait, is it like random people saying [ __ ] or like >> Yeah, no I don't know these people. We don't know any of these people. The one from Mississippi. There's um you know she obviously we don't know her. People can People can see. There's sheep There's sheep who believe with everything that they read or hear and read on social media. And then there's other people who know better. That's why I hate the internet. I hate social media. Ignorant people. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> So what did the elephant say? Did you write back to the thing? >> Yes. I'm I'm talking to a Kevin right now. >> Oh, okay. >> I'm telling him my favorite movie is Little Shop of Horrors. What else? >> I feel like Little Shop of Horrors, Pleasantville. p l e a s >> a n t v i l l e And then when people ask you questions about the case or the lawyers, don't answer anything >> I'm not. >> that could be self-incriminating. >> I thought you told Dad I could answer that Well, I said ask >> No. But I I'm so proud of you. Thank you. You got to keep your spidey senses up cuz you Don't be upset with him. Good question. Don't be mad at him, though. I'mma try. I I'm not. He's uh you know, we're all struggling. Right? So we're just going to chalk it up to that. It's very, very difficult for uh every Oh my gosh. everybody. >> I'm just glad he's okay with maybe like moving just to a different city so I don't have to see that damn house. >> Yeah. He doesn't want to move far cuz of his job. He likes his job, which I understand. I mean so but he's okay with getting out of here. But I'm not going to I I just don't want to take Danny out of school yet. You know? Maybe after after we're done with the fight and school and screw this place. We'll go get a house on a lot of land. We'll have a wrap around porch with a barn in the backyard. Lot of land, ATVs. Screw this. >> Yeah, that sounds really nice. But I hope I get to experience it. >> Yeah, me too. Me too. You will. We're never going to stop. >> Yes, yeah. Give me his number. >> Oh, good. I told him I said, "You were always such a ray of light in her days." Thank you so much for looking out. >> I used to always be like I like Sam would come over and hang out with me and Dom. >> Yeah. >> And I would be like, "I love Sam." Like, "Oh my goodness." And Dom's like, she'd be like, "Why do you love Sam so much? Like what is what's the issue with Sam?" Like, "Why do you love him so much?" Like he would get like weird about it. I'm like, "It's not like that. Like I just love Sam." Like, "I don't know what it is. Like I just love him." Like >> Yeah. >> She's like, "So he's just like so fun. Like I just love him." >> And he's got good energy. >> Yes, I think that's what it is. His energy's just so good. Like I just love Sam. >> It's like pure. Right? It's good pure energy. >> I'm going to call you back. >> Yes. >> Yeah, I'm Daddy. He's asking me like, "What's the pod like? Like what are the girls like? Have you met any friends?" >> Oh God, this is going to be published in some news story somewhere. My conversations with Mackenzie. >> Well, I'm going to call you back right now. >> Okay, honey. >> Bye. >> Mhm. Love you. >> The caller has hung up.