call between Payton and SH um exploited case 23-133. It is uh October 5th at about 5:35 p.m. >> Hello. >> Yeah. >> Can you hear me? >> Yeah, I can hear you. >> Is it? >> Yeah. >> Can you talk? Yeah, we can talk. >> Okay. >> I got your message. Um I'm I I'm upset. I mean, really rough patch right now. >> Yeah, as you should be. Um I'm really sorry that you know I was like the center of all that. I just I don't know how like I don't even know what to say. I know we're not supposed to be talking to each other. I really don't even know what to say. Um I really don't know what to say either. I never expected like any of this to like happen. I don't know like what he's told you, but he told me everything. He told me that he has video of you guys having sex. Um, he told me that the day that I was flipping out about the party that you guys had sex in at the mall. And he told me the day that you picked him up, you guys had sex, too. And I'm like, I don't understand that. I don't. >> I didn't know that he had videos. >> Yeah, he tried to delete them. Um, he tried to delete the one video from I guess the party and then it started it started recording when you guys were in >> about saying that basically whatever you did with your little you know they were trying to get you to do with them too. They were threatening me and it made >> they do they know do that do the kids that you that you talked to do they know >> they know what like they know how many they know how many times you were with him like they know like you guys actually did something or they're just asking >> I don't know what told them >> from what there was a screen Okay. I thought I didn't know he did that. >> He didn't tell him to record. >> I would never want that recorded. >> Is that what >> I would never want that recorded, >> right? >> And I mean, do I need Do I need to go get him tested? Like, >> no. I've been with the same person for five years. >> Okay. >> And can could you be pregnant? >> No. >> Do I have to worry about? >> No. Did you Did you guys use protection? >> The first time there was only two times. I don't The second the the first time at the mall wasn't >> it wasn't intercourse. >> No, >> he said he said he said that it wasn't intercourse at the mall. >> Yeah. I said no and that I couldn't do that. And yeah, I didn't know that he recorded me um until his friends called me. You know, his friends called because he said that you get in the parking lot at a party. >> They told me that there was a video. >> Yes. >> Serious. >> Have you talked to his friends? >> No, I haven't talked to anybody yet. I'm like, my my family's telling me to get a lawyer and I'm I'm like, you know, you know what's going on with my family already? You know, I'm already having problems. like in my work. I don't want to tell my job about what's going on. It's just really a really tough situation. >> I mean, like, are there charges being pressed against him? >> I don't know. The only thing that I know is CPS is involved. >> How did CPS get involved? >> I don't know something about the school. I got a meeting with the school on Tuesday. And I'm like, I don't I don't I don't want to lose my job, P. I I I just want help for him. I don't I don't want this smoke. I don't I don't want this smoke. I know. That's not going to do nothing for add on to what we're already having problems. I said that. I'm like, we were already arguing about you and this is going to be worse. Like, he doesn't like we're we're at the white now. We're arguing in a car because you have issues and like like it's my fault that you have his stuff. >> I mean, I can drop his stuff at your house to you. >> Okay. Like I I'll text you. I can hand them to you. I My only problem is I do have a lawyer. >> Yeah. >> Um as protection. >> Yeah. But >> but is it is what is your lawyer saying? I don't want them to take my kid. Payton, I'm scared. >> They're not going to take your kid. They're not going to take him. They just want to know what's going on so they can go after me. I haven't said anything cuz I don't It's not that I don't believe him, but I know like I said this already like he he does things he does things to manipulate me. I knew he was I knew he was manipulating you. >> Yeah. I don't really seem like I'm unfit. I I don't want to seem like I'm unfit. >> That you're what? >> That I'm unfit. >> You're not unfit. And I don't think that they're going to think that. I think they just want to go after me. >> I'm like, well, what if I mean, I haven't said anything. So, I don't know. I haven't said anything. So, like I said, so far all I know is the the CPS lady wants to meet with the principal. >> Okay. >> Doesn't know what's going on. He just knows that I thought he ran away. I didn't know he was with you. >> He told me that brothers that he was going with me. I didn't know until he got back cuz I again when I left the house Wednesday he was asleep. I broke two of my toes on my birthday and I went and got an X-ray and I called my brother to tell him what's going on my with me and I was like no and we talked on Friday that's I was like I didn't think he was with you know when I went >> I don't know why I was not thinking rationally. I was thinking emotionally and like just stuff that's going on at home in my house. Like I think just like I like it's my fault and I let this happen and I let us get too close and I let boundaries be broken and I lost everything from it and I'm scared I'm going to lose my baby. and he's my whole world and like I messed up and now I feel like I [ __ ] his whole life up. I just I understand I'm a mom too, you know. I don't I don't Are you okay, though? >> I mean, like >> I know like I'm I'm not okay. So, I'm asking like are you okay? I appreciate you asking, but no, I'm not okay. Like, I tried to kill myself two days ago, and when I texted you that message, like, I didn't even know I was going to wake up. Like, I'm not okay at all. Is somebody with you? Like, is somebody Is somebody with you now? Like, I got, you know, I at least got my I at least got my brother at home with me. Do you have somebody with you? >> I do. Yeah. And I like I told my fiance's mom about what I did and she got me a lawyer and everything and like I told her like just what I did like the other day like I took like 20 pills and I was just hoping I wasn't going to wake up and like I'm just scared. I'm really scared. I know I [ __ ] up, but I'm so scared. >> Okay. >> Like, this isn't who I am at all. I have worked so hard to get to where I am and now I'm dropping out of school and like I'm losing everything. I lost my job. Like, which is valid. I should have, but like I don't even know like why I'm myself for real cuz I don't really know. >> He told me >> he told me that like his phone is being searched. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think is that's why I think the CPS lady is there. >> I don't know if it's because of that or if my my work reported something. >> No, they the police tried to talk to me and I just refuse because I don't I just don't want to deal with the police. Um like I said, I have a reputation. I I'm I don't you know, and this isn't this is not what I want my other kids to deal with. Like, I was already dealing with stuff with Diamond, you know, I don't want I don't want to do this. I just I don't I just don't even know like what to say. Like, I just know that I'm [laughter] like a huge [ __ ] up right now. So, I just don't know like how to make it better for you at this point. Like, I did like the worst thing I possibly could have done. I mean, [snorts] I don't know. I don't know. Like, I just I really just want to know why. Like, why why did you guys have sex? Like, that's what I want to know. Like why? I >> think we just talked too much. And I think that >> we just got too close. >> Did you guys have sex in my house? >> No. No. I never was at at your house alone with him. Yeah. I know that you care about him. >> I do. I know that you care. >> Yeah. >> Do you at least love him? >> I do love him. And I've told him that. Um Does he do you think he believes you? Like if I told him like I'm trying to figure out what to do. Like how do I fix? I >> mean, I don't think so. >> I'm going to fix this with my kids because it's my fault. He feels like it's this is all going to [ __ ] because I I made them take his phone. Yeah. >> It's not your fault. >> I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know what was going on. I just I told you I just felt like you was stepping on my toes and we started arguing about you and that really made me mad. I didn't understand why. Like now he's just shutting out and he's not talking to me. I said we were just arguing over the stupid stuff because he's like, "Oh, you're just trying to take the stuff that you gave him." I never tried to take anything from him that you bought. >> I didn't even think he really cared about me at all. >> You do? >> I think he do, but I think it's more so because of me that like he don't heard nobody he could talk to now. He what? >> He doesn't have anybody he can talk to now. >> He don't have anybody. He don't have nobody he could talk to now. And he don't he don't trust me. I mean, I think that like maybe he should work with a male therapist in the future, maybe in an office setting. He tried that. We tried that with um Norice and Lazar that he worked with there. Henry basically said there wasn't anything wrong with him and that he needed to be disciplined at home and that's why he was behaving the way that he was from my perspective. I mean, I was just doing a lot of research on like what he was dealing with and I was like hours just trying to figure out like better solutions. And that's why I wanted to give him more positive like experiences. And obviously like in me doing that, I didn't realize that it would also make us get as close as we did. >> I just I just want to move on. I do. I just want to forget all of this. I think I do. >> I do too. But now at this point, like I feel like it's out of my hands. And I don't know. I mean, if there's something on his phone, like, they're obviously going to find it. And >> I don't know. I don't know. I didn't see I didn't see anything on the phone. Like I said, they took it and then the CPS lady came to my house this Monday. This past Monday. And we've got a meeting with um and we've got a meeting with the school, but I know they can't get in the phone me cuz they don't have the password and he won't give it to me. So, unless they take it, you know, unless they take it, I don't know how that works, but I know I know that they can't get in there. Um, and I'm not dealing with no police. >> There's no messages like discussing anything. >> Mhm. Um, I know that like my work said something about you said that there was inappropriate messages on the phone, but I don't >> Yeah, I didn't talk to your job. They did. >> Who did? >> I told the the the police officer that was at the house. I haven't talked to anybody but the social worker. Like I said, my my family is telling me to get a a lawyer so that I don't like I I feel like they're harassing me and I don't want to be bothered. I don't >> mean >> I just I don't want to I work for a high state. I don't want this. I don't want to be bothered. >> I don't I don't want to be bothered with none of this. >> Well, what did you tell CPS? >> I just told them that we were um that we weren't in communication about where he was going sometimes. Um, and I said that I wasn't happy with the clothes and the things that he bought. I mean, basically what I told you on Friday, like I just I was I didn't want to start arguing with him and, you know, just about the phys about the stuff that he had and like him wearing this stuff like repeatedly. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. She didn't ask me too many questions because she said she wanted to meet with the principal at the school. And I'm like, I don't know why they're meeting why we're meeting at the school. I'm like, I know you can't come, but >> Oh, that's interesting. I don't know what the school would have to do with anything. >> I don't know either. >> Maybe they're just asking the principal about maybe I don't know how the investigation for CPS works, but they're probably just talking to everyone. >> Okay. >> Like I said, I don't I don't know how this stuff goes. I just I want to just try to get his shoes and just get on with it. I don't >> Yeah. >> Okay. You can you can leave your shoes at my house. I don't mind. Um, if you don't want to if you don't want to actually see me, I understand. I I don't I don't want to get you in trouble with your people, your attorney. But >> yeah, >> I'm like I know like I'll I'm here at the Y with the kids now trying to just give them something to do, >> you know, to distract them. >> Yeah. >> If CPS is like investigating like If they ask like what if anything happened between me and him like is that something about >> they can't ask him nothing without me and I'm not talking and I don't know anything. I mean I know what he told me but I'm just like like I said I'm a mom too. Yeah. >> Are you home now? >> I'm almost home. I'm in the car. >> Okay. Me, too. >> Are you okay? you know, just like I said, I understand, but I don't understand. I just I just want to get over this and try to make my relationship with with my kid a little bit better. Yeah. I'm I hope that like nothing comes of it and I hope that you know whatever is on his phone like I don't I mean I hope that it's they don't see it. I don't know what would I don't know why he would take videos >> I don't understand that at all. Like that just really is frustrating for me >> because he >> I'm getting rid of the phone. That's why I kept taking it from him. I'm just I already told him I'm putting it in the garbage disposal as soon as I get it back. I'm not I don't want the phone. I don't I mean I don't I mean no shade. I like I said outside of his shoes. I don't want to deal with none of this. I don't want to keep arguing about what he wants to do and you know like him him wanting to like you know show people you know the video or whatever whatever it was. I don't know yet understand the whole video thing. I think that he was just Oh god. I feel like >> Yeah. I don't know. Like I care about him a lot and I do love him and that's not going to change no matter what happens. Like I'm I'm just a very like >> mommy >> caring person and >> I have to do our mom. I'm an understanding person >> and like I know that it was my job to not let this happen and it's not his fault and I just don't I don't know. I'm just like I honestly just destroyed myself. Um I just laugh. I don't I don't know. Like I'm glad you're talking to me cuz I really don't even have nobody, you know, to talk to about it. You know, I'm just about what I'm going through with him and like I don't know. >> I don't want him to run away. I was surprised when he told me that you hadn't told him about cancelling services >> because I was just mad. >> I was just I was just mad. I told you I was just mad. I didn't tell him because I knew that we were going to argue about it. After the party thing, I was really upset with you because I felt like you were letting him do things that I didn't approve of. >> Yeah. >> Right now, Mom. >> I don't know why. >> What >> I made these choices. Um >> why why here? Mom. >> Mommy. because I got to get dog food. >> Um, >> let's see. I got to I got to get ready to go get the kids. Um, >> okay. >> Do you Do you want to Um, I can drop them by tomorrow. >> Okay. >> I don't mind seeing you if you're going to be there. And um yeah, I've been taking I've been taking days off because I don't know. I don't know. Just idea that my son's not a virgin is really bothering me. But I'll be home. I'll be home in the morning. >> Okay. What time? >> I'll be there until like 11. >> Okay. Um, I'll text you. >> Okay. >> When I'm on my way. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you for calling me. >> Thanks for talking to me. >> Yeah. Okay. I'll see you. >> Okay. Bye.