Is this really you? Yes, sir. You're What's a loan with you? It is a loan with you. That's what I thought. I thought I saw a wig. On November 29th, 2022, officers were dispatched to a bank following reports of two individuals attempting to secure a loan using false information. Any vehicles in the parking lot, I expect. There's three cars, but I think they're not going to belong to them. Hello. We got a call about you guys trying to do a fraudulent transaction. So, that's why we're here. Okay. All right. So, give us a couple seconds. Headquarters. We're 10-12. We're going to be inside. You can go ahead and cancel the channel. I got the last here. You guys have any ideas on me? want me to cancel? No, I'm not. 10-4. 10-4. I'll be out there again. The patrol black Yeah, just stay here. Yeah, I'm going to move him real quick. You guys have no ID. You guys are opening an account? I don't have 10-50 is a company 83. I'm going to receive a rifle channel 3, 15 on that. You called for them, too, right? Okay, let me just I'll park behind this guy. Okay. All right. We currently have an open case with going to park police. This gentleman as well. And who's the lady with her? I don't know. I think he's getting her to do the fraud. Got you. What's the loan with her? How do you know? Like, from this office or from another? From another office. This will be their probably third location that they visited. Oh, okay. Oh, do you have any of that information? Let me see if I can get What made you What What caused Besides the past, what's causing it now? Just the suspicious of the transaction and it's not being her. Um yeah. 10-50 Well, I guess it's so likely that she's got different IDs. And the ID is saying she's 39 and she's not. Yeah, I see. All right. Yeah, if you can see if you can find the the one apart information for me. And maybe I can call and contact them. In case they hit other McCoy and they got got a case for him in Winter Park. And she's showing an ID that's claiming she's 39 years old. No, born in 1939. Oh, born in So Hey, ma'am. I just forwarded you this information as well. Oh, perfect. Miss Hale? I'm at 353 Can you come out here real quick? Hello. Oh, yeah. It's okay. Um What year What What's your date of birth? It's 1970, 39. 39? Do you know what's going on? No. Do you mind if you can take the mask off for a second? Okay. Um Who's the gentleman with you? Oh, he takes care of my yard work and stuff at home and takes care of a lot of my paperwork. He takes care of your yard work? Yeah, and does my paperwork. How long have you known him? About 3 years. How did you get to know him first? Uh through his uncle. Through his what? Through his uncle. Who's his uncle? He's good on computers. And I don't know why now. Is he not good? Well, I guess he has several fraud cases going on. So, that's why I want to know what's That's why they called us. That's what I can understand. I'm sorry? That's what I mean. That's what I mean. Say it again? That I can Well, can I get away with something like that? Oh, what? Well, I want to I need to investigate him. I can't just let everybody go. You know, if he's telling you to What is he telling you to do? No, he don't tell me He helps me with my banking paperwork. So, what were you guys here today for? I need for the filing a loan and setting up my account. Oh, okay. Yeah. And he's just here to You think he's here to help you? Is what your the understanding of you guys relationship? Filing a loan? Yeah. Yeah, well, I I opened up my account and I'm filing for a loan so I can remodel. Okay. So, what's that? Do you have an account here? No, I just opened one today. When did you open it today? Yeah. Yeah, so that I can What time did you open it? Just earlier. Um I've been here the whole the whole time. Okay. I just want to see his name. What does that make me? that I filed for a loan that way I could do my home improvements. opened an account and then you you become a preferred member of the bank and then you get a loan. Is that what he He just helping you do that? He said that that's where I could do what you could do my home improvements. Okay. Got you. But if you guys know something I need to know. Well, we don't know. I don't know him personally. We're just getting the the bank Okay. The McCoy Federal organization has called and notified this guy is going around to three other banks. But if you know him personally, this could just be a mix-up. I don't know. Um is he advising you to do anything? No. No, sir. No, sir. Does he not have access to your bank account? No. So, not You were you you paused on that. Like are you giving him Are you giving him Well, where he sits in in the room with me while I'm setting it up, that doesn't matter, correct? The living room or in this office? In that office. Well, he could write it down. Is he on his phone writing things down? Is What do you All right. Why do you Did he drive you here? Yes. Yes. What car is he driving? A a maroon The maroon car? Is that your car? No. It has a handicap sticker on it. Okay. From what you've seen, has anything been suspicious with him? With you? Have you been missing money? No, he's been very good to You said you've known him for years. Yeah, he's been very good gentleman, very polite to me. Very polite to me. Okay. Now, I don't know in the past and that, you know, but he's been very polite to me. He's a gentleman and All right. If you don't mind, can you just hang out here for a second? Just take a seat. I got to speak with the manager. Do you guys know who he is? Well, I don't believe so, no. I just gave him the detective and the case number. But how do you him saying Because he's visited other branches. But nobody knows his name. I don't know his name because he's not the one actually doing the transaction. So But what I'm saying is Do they send pictures to all you guys to say, "Hey, we'll be on the lookout for this kid?" Yes. Okay, can I see that? I'll give you one second. I'm just wondering how you guys know if you guys don't know him per- like Like, "Oh, I know him. He came here yesterday with his ID and he's and he took off. I got the ID. And then on her part, you see nothing suspicious with her. Well, I don't think that's her. Do you believe that's her? The nose matches. She looks like she had might have some jaw. So, she was born in 1939? She looks older. I'm going to have to I'll have to verify it, but I'll do it. I'll do my best. Miss Hal how old are you? I'm not quite sure. I know you're older than me. I'm in my sixties, eighty-one. What? Eighty-one. You're eighty-one? Yes. Okay. Yeah, she's older. Well, she's eighty-three. I'm ninety. Her nose kind of matches, though. This is wild. This is that's what got me. want to pull my hair and be like, that's not The current address I can show them. Different. Can I print it or just show it to them? I have it on my phone. Okay, let me print it. What's your current address? My I'm in apartment four, honey, on on a road. What was your What was your previous address from that? From that I I can't think of it right now, honey. I went to two different addresses. Well, what what city? Orlando, Orlando. What city before then? You've always lived in Orlando? Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. I got to ask you, are you wearing a wig? Huh? Are you wearing a wig? I have hair on me. Yeah, I see this. Are you wearing a wig? Huh? Now we're getting to the truth. Is this really you? Yes, sir. You're Is that a wig? Yes, it is a wig. That's what I thought. I thought I saw a wig. He set me up and he said I had to do this, but then I'm going to count. I don't know what he's got me involved in, but I'm not from I want to go home. So, what's your real name? My name is Shawn. I don't do this kind of stuff. What did he promise you for it? A little percentage, some So, did you open an account here? Or were you in the process of opening an account? Yeah, I am. I'm opening an account. I need to be safe. Cuz I'm not from here. Can you give my partner your full name, date of birth, address, phone number, okay? I'm not going to be safe. What's my name? Well, we got to get to the end of the story, you Yeah, we'll make Yeah, if you're truly I'm not from here. I'm from Gallatin. I'm like You're from where? Gallatin, where? I'm not from here. How long have you been here? I'm trying to get back home now. How long How long you been here? Almost 5 years. 5 years? Okay. Are you homeless? Yes. Okay. All right, listen. This is This He's going to We're going to write it all down for you. All right. Now that I'm investigating an alleged crime, right? I'm going to read you your rights. All right? You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? Yes, sir. Anything you say may be used against you in court. Do you understand? Yes, sir. You have the right to talk to a lawyer before and during questioning. Do you understand? Yes, sir. If you cannot afford a lawyer and want one, one will be provided for you before questioning without charge. Do you understand? Yes. Has anyone threatened you or promised you anything to get you to talk to me? I can go home. Then you can go home? Who told you that? But to get you to talk to the police? No. Okay. Are you willing to talk to me and help us out and solve this so we can get this done? Okay. So that is a wig that you're wearing. I was right. Okay. Okay. So you're homeless. How do you come about to meeting this gentleman? I'm trying to get home and To Delaware? Yeah. And he said he could pay me if I just open up an account and go home. So you would open up an account using this person's information, whoever this person is. Yeah. Okay. And he would give me all my stuff to go home. And then from that money, he would give you money to go back to Delaware cuz you're trying to go back to Delaware. Yes. Where did you meet him? On the street. What's on the street? Where? All right. On OBT. OBT and what? All right. OBT bus I know. And do you know of any intersection? No. It's by a Wendy's. This is today you met him? Yeah. Do you know his name? No. He didn't give you his name or nothing? He just told me to leave. Okay. 091 Okay. Have you ever had a driver's license in the state of Delaware? Cuz I got to identify you. How How would I be able to identify you? What I don't want is for you to lie to me again cuz if you lie to me this time Okay. All right. All right. We'll figure it out. Okay. Give me a second. So she is a transient. She met this guy today somewhere off OBT by Wendy's. Doesn't know his name or nothing. She said she got to talk to him. Obviously she's transient. She was funny. He says go to the bank. Tell them to give this lady open up a loan in this lady's name. I'll pay you from that loan. Did he tell you how much? No, she said she's trying to get back to Delaware. That's where she's from. She's not living She's not here. So, she said that he would give her money so she can get back home to Delaware. What was the loan for? How much was it for? 20,000? He got Did he tell you how much he would pay you specifically for that 20K? Send you back home to Delaware? Okay. Well, she's at this point now she's figured out she's been not truthful. She Now she's seems to be opening up to us. Appears that way. I haven't identified her yet. Unfortunately, it's Delaware but she said this is his name. It's Delaware, I think. I'm sorry. What are you What are you doing? What do you mean, what am I doing? I'm walking to the bank. You were going and the door's not open. Who are you? Are you a guest? Are you trying to get out of your business here? That's my little That's my So then you So you're not here for the DO NOT OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND SAY ANYTHING TO ME. GO OUTSIDE. YOU NEED A LAWYER. Go outside. Don't touch me. I'm not doing anything. with the investigation. Go outside or you get arrested. I won't get I'm not playing games with you. Go outside or you get arrested. what crime? Go outside or you get arrested. GOT TO YOU GOT TO BACK THE [ __ ] GO OUTSIDE. DO what I say. Do what I say. Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. Hello. I'm Detective Jackson. I'm with the financial crimes. You understand? Okay. Okay. Before I speak to you, I need to let you know that I'm going to make sure that you advise your rights. Okay. Just tell me what's going on. I don't know cuz you seem like you've been wrapped up into this whole You're not normal. We're going to try to speak a little Okay. So, what did you do? I'm not I'm not sure. Mhm. He stops what I want and I'm trying to help him get out of Delaware. Trying to get back home. Okay. He won't So, you've been trying to get back to Delaware, is what you're saying? He said you wanted to join they just posted my mom. Mhm. I said and that's what I said. Chapola money. Oh. Oh, where did you get that? That's what he gave you? Okay. Do Do know his name? No. Did he tell you a name? No. He is all new. He just had to come in just stand not say anything. He promised all. Okay. I don't know what I'm stuck in it. Mess me all up. Okay. Do me a favor. Unless you want to tell me your name. Shauna. Shauna? Okay. Do you have a Florida driver's license? No. Do you have a driver's license in another state? Where? Delaware. Okay. How long have you been living here in Florida? 5 years. How How long? For 5 years I was stuck here. How did you get here? A train. By train? Do you have any relatives here? No. So, I'm trying to go home. So, what led you here to Orlando? My best friend but now she dead. Yeah. And I've just been on the streets here and there all the whole time. Say that again. I'm sorry. I've just been on the streets here and there. I just can't get back home. I don't know how I did it. Okay. Where do you live? Where do you primarily you know, frequent? What area do you The Coalition. Coalition? Coalition shelter. Okay. Do you have a room there? No. I still have a sidewalk. Okay. Look man. So, when this you say this guy approached you today? Yeah. That's it. Have you ever seen him before? No. Okay. Just walk me through the process of what what happened today when you were approached by him. He just said if I could come in and make and and just stay he said I wouldn't have to say anything. Just just stay there so he could open up a credit card thing. Okay. Sorry, I did not understand you. He said I would have to do anything sit there and like you still my So I go open up credit card. Okay, but how did he approach you? Like how did you know what you were doing? He He just walked up to me. I did he just They just walked up to you out there. Okay. Like that it is a hunt. What did he say initially? That's what he said. He said what now? Couldn't you Couldn't you He said you want you want to earn a few dollars you know what I'm saying? I'm just trying to eat you know what I mean back home I'm I don't have no where to eat because all you got to do is stand there and act like you with my mom because I'll do all the talking. Okay. That's what Okay. Now How How much were you going to get me? He said he'll take me home. He's going to take you home. He said me home. He's going to give you a number to take you home. Okay. Did you say anything to the teller or the loan officer? No he said I'm sitting here and What is this here? It's for from him. Who Who wrote this? Okay. This was given to you? Mind if I see this? Okay. My tolerance my Um I'm still investigating and I'm I'm going to come back and give you some information, okay? Um But most likely I'm going to be completely honest with you. You were aware what you were doing, correct? You came here. No he told me to sit there. So I'm not aware of what I'm doing. Well He told me You had a identification card, right? He gave that to me. So what did you gave I walked in here. Was it you on it? No, man. Okay, and you're not Loretta Hale. No, man. Okay. So, you know that the person that you're trying to represent, you put on a wig. You know that you're not this person. Okay, so that's your accountability in this particular case. Okay? So, we have to take some action here because as a bank, you know, they're believing that you are representing someone to be this true, presenting all of these documents, okay? So, I want you to understand that even though you were, you know, presented to do this in hopes that you can get back, you were representing someone that they didn't give you authorization to do that. Okay? So, what if I go to look at what if I Um I'm going to give you some information for now. Um once I gather everything, I'll let you know. be locked up and I can't go on my kids. I can't go on my kids. Just hold on for a second, okay? I want you to calm down. Okay? We're not going to, you know, you you do have to have some accountability here. You understand that? Okay. Okay. All right. What what kind of mail what happened? What forging her name I don't understand. What is this in your hand here? It's a clip? My brother. Okay. Okay, give me a second. Can you type that here? Um can I see this here? Is this your words? It's my brother. Okay. Can you type that here? You can type that here. Yeah. Hello, sir. How are you doing? My name is Detective Jackson. I'm with the Orlando Police Department. My name is Detective Jackson. Can I have your name? Tyson Nono. How do you spell that? T Y S O N. T Y S O N? Do you have a middle name? N O N O. N O N O? And what is your last name? O C C E N A T. O C C E N A T? Can I call you Tyson? Um yes, you can. Okay. Um so, Tyson, like I said, my name is Detective Jackson. Um obviously, you've been detained here. You're not free to leave. You know that, right? Um I am obligated to, in order to speak to you, to read you what's called your Miranda rights, okay? So, I'm going to read that to you. Okay? Um it's not necessarily mean that you're going to be arrested. It's just that I have to read your rights before I question you about anything that goes on today. Okay? Do you understand that? I understand. Okay. And when I read to you these rights, I just want you to just give me a yes or no if you understand, okay? You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? I need a verbal yes or no. Okay. Anything you say may be used against you in court. Do you understand? I understand. You have the right to talk to a lawyer before and during questioning. Do you understand? I understand. You can't If you cannot afford a lawyer and want one, one will be provided for you before questioning without charge. Do you understand? I understand. Has anyone threatened you or promised you anything to get you to talk to me? No. Okay. Um what I just want to talk about, obviously, is regarding things. Um Um, you came in with this um, lady here. Uh, the white female. The older white female. Okay. Um, what is your involvement with her? That's a friend of mine. Oh. And um, my lawyer wants to come and speak. Is your lawyer present? Uh, not at the moment. Not at the moment. My sister called him and just for my Uh-huh. to protect myself. Okay. So, your sister is outside? That's correct. She came in and she was trying to speak to me, but I guess they escorted her out. Okay. How old are you? I'm 26. 26. So, you're grown right now. Um, now, are you requesting a lawyer? Is that what you're saying? Uh, she my sister came in here and said don't say anything and and she requested one for me. Oh, well, I'm asking you. Uh, I trust her words. Um, yeah. Okay. Okay. So, I just need a verbal confirmation from you that you're you don't want to talk right now. Yeah, that's it. About this incident. Um, until my lawyer's present. Okay. Okay. That's fine. First name is Lenny and 1918. They got it all. Then why? He's an adult, okay? We don't have to explain anything to you. We're his sister. Okay, but he's an adult. You're he's not a child. So, we have no we have no obligation to explain anything to you. Can you explain how you got here? What is the charge? What's wrong? What Why he's getting arrested for? You can speak to the detectives. We we are the officers just making sure the scene stays secure. But he wants to talk to you. Okay. When there's an open investi- heads up. Yeah, but there's an open investi- Y'ALL ARE ARRESTING HIM. Y'ALL ARE taking him. Right, and he's in a I'm trying to tell you what what what is the reason for the arrest? Okay, well, when he gets a when he's able to speak to you, he will and he'll let you know that. Oh my god. He's an adult, okay? We don't have any obligation to it's his business. We don't have to tell you anything. But when you pull up his records, it it you guys It doesn't matter, okay? It doesn't matter. None of that makes a difference. grown man and he HE'S IT DOESN'T MATTER, BABY. IT IS what it is. Yes, it is. We don't have to explain IT TO YOU. IT'S OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY, IT'S NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE. HE'LL call you and let you know. That's all I can tell you. I'm sorry about that. We understand. He'll call you and let you know. I don't have answers for you. Yeah, but I I want to know what's the reason then? What what's going on? He'll be able he'll get a phone call when he's Of course they're not going to call me and tell me and I'm going to call my boss and my boss is going to When there's a open investigation, we can't speak about things with people. It doesn't work like that. Okay. 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