stop inside a store with more police officers and security. >> I called y'all though. I called y'all. I called y'all for my safety cuz they thought we were stealing. >> They walked out of Walmart with hundreds of dollars in unpaid items. >> [ __ ] [ __ ] counted everything in our cart and still going to say we stealing. >> Then called 911 on the employees who tried to stop them, but their attempt to deceive officers falls apart instantly as police see right through every lie. Police confronted the female suspect outside the store after she called 911 when employees stopped her and her brother for leaving with unpaid items. >> And literally, I'm not about to keep arguing with them. He got We got all our receipts right here for the TV and everything. He counted everything in our cart and still trying to say we stealing stuff. He counted one cart. You didn't even count my food cart. We got every look. Everything's on here. >> Did you call 911? >> Yes, I did. >> You talking about >> I'm out with the caller. Um, do you want to go talk to them? You want me to talk to him? >> I want I want the rest of my [ __ ] He's trying to say that we took that we stole. >> Let me see the the um receipt. >> We counted everything in our cart and still going to say we stealing. [ __ ] >> Listen, just don't go anywhere yet. I'm going to help you guys work it out. >> No, no, no. I'm an Uber, so I'm just Uber. >> Yeah, I'm just I'm going to cancel it. >> No, don't cancel. >> Yeah, cuz you going to spend time here. >> No, it will not. >> I got We got to make sure everything's all good. >> No, everything is fine. No, they >> Just give me one sec. >> They said this stuff is good. This is good. >> This stuff is all good. >> This is good. But he's saying that the rest that we didn't >> Did you How did you pay? We paid no Walmart pay. You can't pay nothing else but Walmart pay or a card. Please do not cancel cuz we got to go home to my nephew. Please, like, please. >> The suspect swears everything is paid for, but the officer won't know for sure until she speaks with store staff. >> Yeah, this isn't going to fit in this car. >> All right, whatever. >> What's he talking about? Everything in his mom cart is in that store. It's paid for. >> How'd you get all this out here by yourself? >> My brother. >> Oh, okay. >> He counted everything in the car. Half of the stuff that's in that's not in his cart is in there cuz he took it out. >> Yeah. Hurry up. They talking about he going to call the cops. No, I'mma help you. I don't Nobody need to steal. We got money. I got EBT. >> Yeah, but it's saying I don't know how to read this. So, is it Was it declined? >> No, he declined it, but it was because he he had um a regular card instead of Apple. Yeah, he he used Walmart pay, so he declined it and then paid for it again. >> Okay. Yeah, I don't know how to read these. So, I'm going to step in. I'll talk to the employees. Just hang out here for a second. >> I'm not cute. My mother like it's it's over. It's >> over. cuz he I called the cops for him to feel safe cuz he keeps yelling at us and I'm going to yell back and I don't have time for this. It's either we going to get our stuff and leave or >> is your brother still in there? >> He's still in there trying to get the rest of our stuff. >> All right. >> So, who who what's the issue here? What happened? >> I'm talking uh >> Yeah, we were trying >> I'm trying to figure is this two separate incidents? What is this? >> No, it's a separate thing. >> We trying to verify the items that the >> Okay. >> Some of the items are not >> What did you not check? >> No. >> Did you not scan it on checkout? No, I >> some some have not been >> and and they don't want to they don't want us. >> Okay. >> There's a lady who has just left without >> Yeah. I have my partner talking to her outside here. So, what >> let them just bring everything because some of them are not. >> Okay. >> Are you listening? >> Yes. >> So, now what I'm saying is I didn't come up to the front. >> I got the TV, my game, all that. Right. >> Are you with them outside or not? >> Yes, I with them outside. But in the midst of that, he's saying he stopped us, right? showed him the receipt. He's saying that it's some item that's not paid for. >> Okay. Do you have Do you have the receipt? >> She has papers. >> I'm talking I'm trying to be respectful. I'm talking to him. >> Okay. So, >> so then after that, he's saying, but they started going back and forth. I'm telling her to give him receipt. All right. She not giving it to him. He's saying the stuff that's in that car is not paid for, right? I'm like, "All right, cool. It's not paid for. That's not my issue. I didn't bring this stuff up. the person that was going to back me up, but I paid for it. It's no issue. I show you my card. I paid for it. >> Were you guys all together at one checkout counter? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, this items that you have right here, >> this right here is paid for. But the stuff and that stuff is he went through that already. What he's saying >> all that stuff is good. That right there is not paid for. All I'm saying, I will pay for it again. But he's making a big issue. My Uber is about my Uber about to cancel. I said my Uber >> it cancelled. No, let me uh officer what I want. >> One what? >> Just bring all the items to verify one after the other then. >> Yeah, that's what we're trying to do. Yes. >> Yeah, that's what that's what just we're trying to do. >> Where's your brother? What's your brother? >> Uh can I can I talk to you? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. We're outside. >> Can you just stand in here for a second? >> Stay right here. >> He just wants to verify the items on the receipt. >> Okay. >> So, >> all the items that she has outside. >> Yeah. Is Is that okay if we could just verify the items? >> He He literally verified it three times. Excuse me. >> Sorry. If we were to just verify the items right now and then he were to pay for whatever he had to pay for. >> No, forever. Whatever has not been paid for, they can only pay for after 24 hours. We just want to confirm all the items. If there are items that have not been paid for, like those >> So this right here has not been verified. >> So this stuff that's on top of the shopping cart has not been verified. >> This stuff right here. >> Yeah. This this is part of the >> Okay. Okay. So, we just have to we just have to verify this what I'm touching. >> Yeah. This one. This one. >> How do you How do you verify? >> This is what we're going to do cuz we're way we're making this way way too complicated. >> Look, way too complicated. Ma'am, do you mind if you just bring your shopping cart right here real fast? We'll just verify this stuff real fast. >> The quicker you cooperate, the quicker we're going to get your >> Yeah, just look. We're just gonna verify and then he said whatever. >> He just He just said the stuff that was good that's out there. Everything that's not good, he just put back there. That's what I'm saying. I I understand. Look, ma'am. Ma'am, ma'am. >> Okay, listen. At this point, we're going to investigate. Look, >> look. >> Just bring it in. >> He just wants to verify this once again and then that's it. >> Can he come out here and do it? Because I'm not about to keep bringing this in and out. >> How about we How about How about we do this? I'll wheel one in one in you the other one in. Right. >> Yeah. You need help doing it, right? We got this. This >> has >> Let me know. >> Okay. Oh, sorry. >> So, all you want to do correct is just >> just verify stuff, right? Just listen. Listen to me. Listen to me. >> What you want to do is you just want to verify the items. >> Yes. >> Okay. the camera right there. >> That's it. >> Yeah, that's it. Okay. All right. So, let's verify this real quick so we can get him out of here. Let's go. You have uh the receipt once for >> the camera show right there. Tell the running camera back that he just verified it three times. >> The camera's right there. Camera's right there. >> All right. All right. Stop. What are we trying to do? What do you need? You need the receipt. >> Can I have the receipt? Let me have the receipt. >> I don't have to keep stealing this receipt if he just seen this [ __ ] eight times. The kid is right there. You going behind a counter? Count the [ __ ] that's right here. >> All right, here we go. We got a mirror here. We got a TV. All right, I think we can cross that off. Look, two t two uh two mirrors, one TV. >> I'm showing three of these next diapers. >> Yeah, but one of them is not on it. >> Is it not on it? Is it not verified? >> No clothes on the receipt. These are another one. H. >> Those are another one. Those are another one. >> This is another one. Another one. So, can you bring it up right here? >> The incident report states that the unpaid items included baby wipes, diapers, infant clothing, and two bottles of baby formula. Everything else had been purchased using the suspect's mother's EBT card. Though the store chose to let her walk, the suspect escalates the situation by providing a false name and age [music] and refusing to give officers her ID. >> They don't want to trespass you, nothing. Okay? They just wish cuz it's already like it's already 11:02. They're already shutting down. Um if you could just come, he said come back tomorrow. Whatever the items are that you want to purchase or purchase. He doesn't want to trespass you. >> Doesn't want anything. Just whatever. Okay. >> Okay. >> We'll just put this down as a misunderstanding. Understand? >> Okay. Thanks. >> All right. Uh did did you provide the other officer here? Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't have a No, I I said that I was 17, but they asked me did I have an ID and I said no. >> Okay. >> But my name is Sierra Williams. I called on the phone. You >> didn't do anything wrong. Why? Why lie about who you are or how old you are or anything? >> Why? Why about my age? >> Why do anything wrong? If you didn't do anything wrong, why would you say >> I don't really want to get too in detail. Just I didn't know I had to get past like asking who I am and do I have ID. >> Why wouldn't you? >> Because I didn't do nothing for me to even give any information. >> Stop inside a store with more police officers and security. >> I called y'all though. I called y'all. I called y'all for my safety cuz they thought we were stealing it. >> So, was there anything in your carts that you didn't purchase? >> Everything. He just verified. Am I correct? He just verified everything. He just checked each and every whatever it was not verified, he has. And he just told us. He just came up to us and said whatever. >> I got to We have to identify you first. So, if you have an ID, give it to me now or else you're going to be waiting. >> I do not have an ID. I >> Okay. Why did you lie when and you said you're 17? Your math was off by 2 years. >> I know it was, but I just didn't think I >> You're going to lie. At least do it right. But where's your ID? Give it to me now. >> I don't How you pressuring me about something that I do not have? >> How do you not have an ID? >> Because I don't have one. It takes a >> You're 19 years old. >> I'm 20 actually. But I said 04. >> So what we're going to do is >> Regardless, she said the wrong date. >> Give us your mother's name and her phone number. We're going to call on her phone. She said you were 17. So we don't even know. >> She's not. She said she gave me a different date now. >> I'm not 17. I'm 20. >> I don't know. >> I don't know how to I got a Do I have a picture? or something. >> Yeah, but we still don't have a DL or anything. >> Yeah, we got to do it. So, we can trespass him. >> I don't have a ID. >> Call your mom. >> My mom is not What is my mom going to say? >> So, we if you're 17, someone has to come pick you up. >> I'm not 17. >> Why did you lie? >> Because I didn't think I had to give y'all information about something that >> We're investigating a shot a possible shoplifting. >> But it's it's in >> and now you're trespassing from the source. So, now we have to identify you. Show me anything that can prove your name that you're telling me. You have a debit card or anything? You got nothing? I can't give EBT. >> You have nothing with your name on it. >> Kenya, how old am I? >> No, I want to talk to one of your parents. >> Mama, she's sleep. Oh, my dad. Hold on. >> Hello, Dad. How old am I? >> Dad, you sleep. My bad. Just How old is my dad? >> Just get through the office. >> How old am I? >> Let me talk to your dad. I got to identify you. You're making it harder. >> I'm not making You're making it much harder. >> How am I making I'm 20. Give me anything that has your name on I don't have no I don't have I'm not lying. I literally >> You already lied. So why should I believe you? >> Have a Starbucks card. >> Okay. Show me something with your name on it or you're not leaving. >> Well then I can't leave. I have nothing. >> Or I can bring you into the police department and we can lock you up. >> Just lock me up. I have no >> We have to identify you at some point. >> Like I literally have my iPad. Like I don't know what you want. >> And what's your ID? >> I have no Why you telling me that I have ID when I don't? >> Okay. So you're telling me you don't have any identification? >> No ID. >> Okay. So, >> where did you used to live? >> Where I used to live. >> Where did you come from? For example, >> even after being let off the hook, neither suspect cooperates with police, making it much harder for them to simply walk away. >> You guys have been out here like 20 minutes ago. What's her name? She said her name. >> Okay. What is it? >> Tell me what it is. >> Oh, she said her name. All right. >> Tell me what it is. >> Sorry. She said her name, ma'am. She said her name. But I'm just saying you told the woman. >> All right. We're doing an investigation right now. If you don't uh >> you both could be arrested right now for traveling. There was it. Look, I'm not >> I'm just let you know we're we're trying to prevent that. We want you guys to get in the store and get out of here. >> Okay. So, we get so properly trespass you guys from the store. We need to properly ID you. >> Okay. This officer is verifying me. >> I'm trying to verify her. So, I want to see if you're going to corroborate what she says. If not, she's getting locked up. So, what is her first name? >> What do you mean? >> What is her first name? >> Why are we getting locked up for it? >> She's hindering apprehension. >> She might be. As long as your name checks in, you give us her correct information, you're fine. >> What's your first name? >> What's her first name? Why is you asking me? >> Because I'm trying to corroborate the story. >> You're shop owner. >> What's her first name? >> No, that's fine. He gave us his I have more than enough for Henderson. So, >> after watching her brother get pressured by police, the female suspect decides to come clean about her identity. >> I was going to talk to you out here. >> No, you to me. >> Yes. >> Why? No. Stay right here. I'm not going out here. >> No, I want to talk to you a person right here. >> Right here. Person to person. >> All right. Well, we can't talk. >> I don't want to go here. I want to stay right here. >> I feel comfortable talking out there. >> We'll go over here. I don't know why you want to go anywhere further than here. >> All right. >> Right here. I don't want you going out there. I'm not chasing you. I >> don't even know. We don't have people. >> Stay right here. >> You could keep me in the corner. Look. >> Okay. Oh, wait. I just want to talk to her personally. >> Okay. Me personally, I don't want to get in trouble. I didn't steal nothing. I wasn't doing nothing. But yeah, I did lie and I apologize. But I just don't want to get in trouble cuz I'm already on probation, but I wasn't stealing nothing. probation then you you should know by now that you need to be providing your proper information when you come across the >> I don't want to get in trouble because I don't >> we aren't there's they don't want to press charges on shoplifting you could have left here 20 minutes ago if you gave me your proper name this is a problem right >> why why did you lie you have >> no I'm on probation if they think that I'm stealing I could go back to jail and I don't want that to happen when I wasn't stealing right but so if you want to prove your case and you want to prove to people you're not stealing you need to learn to cooperate with people you can't be out here causing a scene because when you're causing a scene to me and my partners, my guard is up. I'm like, "Why is she causing a scene like this? Something's wrong." Then you're not cooperating with them. They're trying to get you out of here. They wanted to check your receipt and check the items and you would have been out. >> But now we have a problem cuz you lied. You lied to me twice. >> Okay. So, stay here. Give me a second. I have to verify your identification. >> After verifying the suspect's identity, the officer makes the decision to place her under arrest for hindering. >> I'm just going to go under. >> Huh? >> I'm just going to place her under. >> Where we going? >> Yeah. Not even close. >> I know. >> Do I get locked up? >> Yeah. I'm going to bring you in. So, just turn around. Take your bag off. >> Wait, can I give my brother my stuff? Cuz he could leave. >> No. No. Just stay here. Stop. >> All right. >> Oh, wait. I could bring my phone. >> Listen, there's no reason. We I would have worked with you if you didn't lie to me three, four times about your name. You want your brother to take this stuff? >> What? Yeah. >> Your purse? >> Yeah. >> Do you have anything else in your pockets >> that you want me to take out? I'll reach for it. >> Just my phone. Just my phone. You want to take your phone with you? >> That's what you're saying. >> Um, no. Hinder. >> This is your brother. >> What do you mean? >> Yeah. >> I don't know if they're >> Who? >> You're not charging, right? >> Well, I know. She gave me a false name three, four times. >> You're not charging me. >> What? >> What do you mean? Do I have to have a shoplifting charge for it? >> His name? >> I don't even know. >> Brut said yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You guys cannot do with anything. >> Come on. >> They want to trespass. >> He just said no. >> You're under for hindering. No, but I I I just I I own you because I didn't want to get in trouble cuz I was on probation. >> But you already lied to me three, four times. >> I only lied two times. I said my name was Sierra and I was 17. >> And you gave me the wrong date of birth. >> No, I changed it when you asked again. When you asked the third time, I gave it to you. I really don't. >> Go on this side. >> You have everything in your pockets. >> I just wrote down their information. >> Whose information? Stop moving >> so I can get the curve up. >> Do you have anything under this? >> Just a t-shirt. >> Sit down. Go ahead and sit. Go ahead and sit. I don't want the seat belt on. Okay. >> Wait. Um, >> scoot in. >> No, I don't want the seat belt on. I feel uncomfortable. >> It's loose. It's policy and procedure. >> My ID? >> Yes. So, just give us a couple seconds here. We'll get you on. All right. If you want to just go ahead and step out of here. >> I can't get out. >> Oh, wait. Hold on. Wait one second. >> Get out. >> One second. One second. All right. You can step out of here now. >> I can't. >> Take your rest for me. >> And then do you have anything under that hooded sweatshirt? >> Yeah. >> What do you have under that? >> Compression shirt. Are you going to be cold if you >> I mean if I'm sitting in the cell probably Yeah. >> No, you're going to be sitting right here. >> Oh. >> Um so just give me those. I'll let you leave the black one on. All right. >> Just sit down for a sec. What? Um I'm going to have you take that hat off, too. >> All right. My wig is Damn. Can I get my other jacket? >> For what? >> This just broke. >> All right. Just Just sit for a sec. What's up with your hair? >> It's a wig. You want to see it? >> Oh, it's in the hat. >> What's in the hat? >> No, no, no. What is 250? >> Okay. Okay. Um, you can keep it on. Yeah, that's >> I just want the hat. That's all. >> Okay. >> You can do is take those shoes off. I'm just going to check on them and then all your jewelry. What we're going to do is just take it off and I'll put it inside. >> My pierces can't come out. I don't earrings. >> You want me to do the booking? >> All right. So, look. You see? Look. Placing two earrings inside of here. We're going to log this. What? [snorts] Oh, let's take off that necklace you got. >> Oh, [ __ ] I forgot. I'm gonna go to the county. >> I'm going to the county. >> We're gonna figure that. We're gonna figure that out. I don't I don't want to say the wrong thing. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> We'll figure this out. All right. >> You can make a phone call. >> You want to make a phone call? >> What? Can you tell? >> No, cuz I was at Walmart and you know how I got EBT, whatever. I went shopping for Johnny and Shir got his taxes and me and him was just going shopping at the store. And then that's when the guy was like, "Oh, can I count your stuff?" Um, it looked like some of the stuff is not paid for. But we like, "We did pay for all of this stuff." Like, I don't know. They just see, you know, when black people get money and we go to the store, they think we really stealing every time. They arrested me because I told them false information cuz one I'm on probation and I don't have time for, you know, stuff like this to be on my name, which it is now. But I felt like, me personally, I felt like I ain't have to give them information if I wasn't stealing. If I was stealing, all right, if I was stealing, I would have been like, they don't got me for taking nothing. But they got me because what is it? Hindering. Hindering. Lying. Obstruction. Obstruction. I didn't know my name and stuff. No, Ken is here. I just called her. But yeah, they just locked me up for um Well, they didn't lock Well, they just processed me, but it's just for lying about my name and stuff. I just thought I I didn't have to really tell them if I didn't. No. Yeah, I I go to probation in like two days. No, not two days. I'm on like March 3rd I go here. So, I'm going just tell her. I could call her up and just tell her, but they probably They probably going to take me to the client county. Huh? No, not now. She said they might release me from here, but I'm talking about prior to my probation if depending on what they say they might. It's I don't know cuz I'm not supposed to be getting no charges. It's not that deep though. I can get in this I can go to court for and get this job cuz I I did not still We can go to trial and everything. I I got my receipt. It's just they they caught me because I was lying about my name. It's not that. It's okay. Dad, Kenny's here, too. She said she's right in front of me. So, Dad, you don't have to. As long as you know that I'm not going to the county, I'm I'm okay. And you I'm literally using my phone to talk to you. So, I don't think I'm in trouble like that. K is outside. So, there's nothing to worry about. I I didn't steal that. They they locked me up cuz I lied about my name. I didn't steal. I got my receipt. They checked my receipt. All right. All right. It's okay. All right. Let go. >> You do understand your trap session at Walmart, right? You can't go back there. >> Yeah, I can't go back. >> If you do go back there, you're going to get locked up again. >> Okay. Is there a limit though or like forever? >> I think forever. >> Are you [ __ ] serious? >> That's on them. >> I didn't steal. I think it was just the whole incident in general and I think if you were a little more cooperative with them it probably wouldn't have been a problem. >> I was that's why I called job because he kept asking to see our receipt and was looking at the same things. He separated >> you have to understand that a big store like that they have problems like this all the time. So if you if they didn't see you go through the regular registers and you guys pay for your stuff in the back and you're just walking out. Of course they're going to try to >> at the front. He only paid for the bag because he had the TV and stuff. >> Yeah, but that's probably that was probably why cuz they probably thought you went pay for something there and then you might have grabbed stuff on the way out. I don't know. >> I don't know. But I seen that man. He was watching the cameras back there. That's how I knew where he was at. He when I went to the front cuz I tried to pay for my stuff in customer service. He's the one who told me that nobody was at customer service. So I went and he literally watched me go to the like the selfch checkckout. That's why I was confused on why you asking me how much stuff I have when you seen me and then you see my stuff right here. I don't even care. >> Can we do my fingerprints or we still got to wait for it? >> I'm not fingerprinting you. >> Why? >> Cuz I don't have to. >> How? >> Because it's not a crime uh that negates you to be fingerprinted. It's just a disorderly person defense. >> Yeah. Oh, >> or if you were charged with shoplifting. We're just waiting until the complaints and then you're going to be good to go. Unless something changes or something crazy comes up. I don't think you're going to the county though for any sort of person's offense. >> Well, what did you get locked up for last time? If you don't mind me asking that you got your own probation. >> A car? >> Well, stole. It was stolen car. >> Yeah, but technically I didn't steal it. >> I didn't steal it, but it was somebody who stole it, but I just was stealing the car. Got it. >> Yeah, you get charged with that. >> I don't know what's going on. I'm just here to sit for a couple minutes. >> So, if you have questions that I probably don't know the answer. >> Do you want me to like ignore you laugh? >> You don't have to. >> Okay. >> I'm assuming they might have some better answers in about 5 minutes when they come back. Just if that's what you're wondering like what >> So, wait. What's the process right now? >> So, here this is the booking room. So, this is just basically where um we'll do this whole process of I guess you started it here. >> I think yeah, she asked >> just like the basic like what your name is, all that stuff, where you live, all that stuff. And then um if you need to fingerprinting, I don't know. >> She said she don't think I needed those. >> Yeah, I have no idea >> cuz it's not like I didn't get I got obstruction and fingering. >> Okay. So, yeah, probably not. Um, and then, um, once we're done here, the building's under construction. Normally, you would just go there, but we'll probably just stay here. Um, and then >> to go out. >> So, there's there's there's another part of the building, but it's under construction. So, we'll probably just stay here until, you know, I don't know if they said if there's any like Did they say if you have like warrants or anything? Nothing. >> She said if something pops up, but I don't have I know I don't have >> Okay. If that's the case, uh, which it probably is, um, most likely you'll, you know, probably just get a piece of paper with a court date, >> okay, >> is my guess, but I wasn't I have no idea what's going on. >> Just based on what you're saying, um, chances are it's just going to be a piece of paper with a court date as long as nothing, like you said, unless nothing else pops up that we don't know about already, which it probably won't cuz at this point, usually we would know that, >> right? Um, so that's if that's the case, this probably won't take much longer. >> So, >> and the court, where is the court? Is it around right here? >> So, the court for Piscataway is is right here. >> It's on It's connected to this building. >> Okay. Okay. >> Where you're going to go when um your ride comes or where they're waiting right now is probably right outside the courtroom. >> Yeah. >> This is the questions I asked you. So, sign this line here. So, this is the property you came with, your jewelry, your iPhone, and that's everything else we have here. Just sign this line and this line. Okay. You all right? >> Mhm. >> We're going to release you now. Okay. >> I'm going to put this This is the uh complaint. You have a court date. It's on here. It says 3:13 at 10:30 a.m. I'm going to put it into your bag. Okay. >> Okay. February >> of uh February. Yeah. >> So, your sister's in the front lobby. If you walk straight here and make a left, you'll get to the front lobby that way. Okay, you too. >> Kyra L. Snipes was charged with obstructing justice, hindering identity, criminal trespassing, shoplifting, and disorderly conduct. Please leave a like if you enjoyed this video, and be sure to subscribe for more body cam footage daily.