Today on Alpha Responder Network, where is a methad in the car? There's a bag of methamphetamine. Just turn around. A meth pipe just randomly flew out of your car. You do have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against unicorn law. That is a chunk of crystal meth. Join us as we ride along with the nation's bravest alpha responders. This is Alpha Responder Network. [Music] be checking on a vehicle at Earl's Laundry Mat Lakeside. Copy 28, isn't it? While we're driving by, I noticed a vehicle um with the lights on uh parked in a parking lot, saw the door open. I believe I saw somebody standing outside. And as as soon as our marked car passed the parking lot and drove by there, I immediately saw somebody quickly jump inside and close the door as soon as they saw a marked car. Our marked car uh kind of like a reactionary response to uh seeing us on the roadway and coming near them as if it was like unexpected. Hey, how's it going? Hi. Can I talk about you? No, you're good. Can I talk with you? Yeah. Oh, you're good. I'm just I'm just chatting with you. I saw Are you okay? No. Yeah, I'm right here with my friends in the back seat. Oh [ __ ] I didn't see you. Yeah, we were just waiting for a washer. You guys are waiting for your washer. What's your name, brother? Okay. Yeah, we were dealing with you guys like we were dealing with you guys over up there at at your place like last Friday, remember? Yeah. Yeah. Why are you chilling in the back seat, brother? Cuz I have some suitcase in the front seat. Coffee drinks. Okay. I just saw you guys with the door open and stuff. What's up, man? We're homeless and Oh, are you guys not staying anywhere right now? No. Well, we're trying to look for a spot. Okay. Yeah, cuz maybe parked behind I don't think we ended up I don't think we ended up talking to you last week when you guys had that incident over up in Pinetop. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah. The first thing that I actually saw, she had a bag or a backpack and she was clenching really hard and tightly onto the backpack. On top of that, she was speaking quickly and moving around very quickly. Uh making very quick movements. Um she kept like scratching her face. Um the back of her neck. Um just moving erratically almost. And I also saw her pupils were dilated. Um all those things are are signs and symptoms of impairment or the most common stimulant of methamphetamine. Is there anything legal in the vehicle? No. I was stuck. Okay. Okay. Nothing illegal. Nothing illegal. No weapons. Pocket knives. But I ain't worried about a pocketk knife. I ain't tripping over a pocketk knife. You know what I mean? You're good. Okay. Step out. Just chat with me real quick. Okay. I got to ask you something. You're good. Stay in there. But okay. When's the last time you used math? Um, I can tell you're high in meth right now. The way you're moving around. I'm not. Just be straight up with me. I I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not bullshitting you, but I'm just telling you I can see the way you're moving right now. I'm just It's been a really rough day. Okay. Really? It's not just day. It's been a week. Just rough. Yeah. Okay. Is there any dope in the car? No. For sure. Yes. Okay. What about in your bag? No. Nothing. So, we're not going to find anything in there? No, sir. Okay. Can I check your bag? I mean, yeah, but why? I mean, I'm just asking. I'm out here showing my boss. I'm doing my job. I'm contacting you guys, right? I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not being rude to you guys. I mean, I understand. Yeah. And I know he's he told me he's like, "Oh, I told him this and that." That was months ago. Everybody falls once in a while. I'm not here to judge you, right? I'm not here to judge you or treat you badly or poorly. I'm just I'm having a conversation with you. I understand all that stuff, you know? But he's I mean we we have been arguing on and off for like a month and a half you know and being homeless and all this stuff. It's it's been really hard really really hard you know. I understand him going to jail in White River and then me being out here by myself and then Kim having to turn himself in and all stuff and with my eyes. I know they're What's wrong with your eyes? I I even have a prescription. I I have an infection going on and I have my prescription, too. So, it's not just that this or that. It's I'm just it's been so overwhelmed in every situation. I understand. And he always blame me at this and that. Like, it's just really really hard. I got you, you know, and I'm the only one working. He's not working. Doesn't really want to work or anything. You're good. You know, and I'm all like you're just trying to work through it. like all these brushes just falling on top of me. That's some I just don't want to. Look, I'm I'm not here to judge you. You've been every I've talked to you a couple times. You've been very nice. I think you're a very nice person. Okay, you're good. And I get it. Like life gets hard. I understand that. Right. And I I know I I know like I helped Pinetop last week and we went out there. I know you guys were having some issues. Um I get it. Right. And sometimes we probably go those routes of using things whether it's alcohol or drugs to help cope with all right listen right I'm just being straight up I'm telling you I understand sometimes we go those routes to cope with the stress right and to cope with what's happening in our lives and because life gets tough sometimes that's the routes we take okay and I get it like I get it addiction is like a disease it's a sickness right I I'm here I'm listening to you right like I'm having a conversation I understand where you're coming from okay based on know what I'm saying. I think you I think you've used meth pretty recently. I'm not and again not here to judge you. I'm not here to judge you at all. I'm having a conversation with you. Okay. So, where is the meth at in the car? Is it in my bag? In your bag. If you're a business owner, listen up. The sponsor of this video, Crimshield, helps protect your business by letting you know exactly who is working for you. Their thorough background checks on your applicants keep criminals out of your business and you out of the courtroom. Go to crimshell.com and protect your company today. Yes, but okay. How much do you have in your bag? 43. Can you start me at 78? You're good. Listen to me. I I'm hearing what you're saying. Okay. code for I I am listening to you. Get arrested tonight. I'm sorry. Say that again. I don't want to get arrested. Okay. When I when I walked up to your vehicle, you're moving around really fast. You're talking very quickly. I can tell that you used probably today, right? And Yeah. Yeah. I got you. That's your way of trying to cope, right, with what's going on. But it but it I I know I know. Listen, I'm I'm having a conversation with you, right? But do you have kids? Right. It's not It's not fair for them. It's not fair for everybody else. It's not fair for you to be using that stuff because you know it's destroying you. You know it's destroying your life, right? As far as just getting people to talk, I think it's just being a human, right? It's not always having to be heavy-handed on our approach to people. Um, it's just being a human and talking and sometimes listening to and not being judgmental because essentially if that contact would have been approached is very confrontational or condescending or overly authoritative, I don't think it would have went the same way it did as far as her basically admitting as far as her straight up admitting to me um that she did have drugs and she just used drugs. So, look, I I appreciate you being cool, okay? Um, you did tell me there's drugs in your bag, so I'm going to take the bag out, okay? That gives me probable cause to take the bag out. I'm going to get the drugs out, okay? That's good. Okay. I appreciate you being cool. Um, my dad's ashes are in the car. I mean, in the back. I will absolutely be respectful of those. Like, I'll I respect that. Okay. Um, so I just didn't wait with her real quick. Hey, bro. Can you uh just step out, man, while we while we chat? Okay. No weapons in the car, right? Nothing. Okay. She already told me. Yeah. Yeah. definitely can appreciate, you know, being straight up and straightforward. And I I truly do believe her that she's going through a hard time in her life and it's rough and I I get it. Um, but like I told her, I mean, you can't use these methods to cope with those hard times. And more than anything, it's it's hurting her, but it's also hurting everybody around her as far as using illegal drugs like this. So, so here's the mouth pipe. I can already feel it through the toilet paper. There's a baggie of [Music] methamphetamine. And here is the math pipe. It's probably your father's ashes, so be respectful of that. Okay, you're you're all right. Just it's okay. So, I'm going to explain something to you, okay? You've been you've been very nice and honest, okay? I'm going to try to help you out. Okay? I have to put you in cuffs, okay? So, turn around, okay? Just turn around. Appreciate you being cool. Just put your other hand behind your back. Okay. Nope. Put it behind your back. Okay. I know it's hard not to like scratch and stuff right now. 31 1015 for drugs. So, because you're under arrest, I do have to read you. Just listen. I do have to read your rights. Hey, just breathe. Listen. I'm going to have you sit down, okay? So, you can breathe. Just breathe. Okay. Just listen. Just breathe. There's nobody ever listen to me. I'm going to talk to you. Just just just breathe. Okay. It's okay. It's all right. It's all right. You're you're okay. Just Just kick your feet in. Okay. Just breathe. Take a deep breath. Listen. I need you to breathe. Okay. I think more than anything, I think why she told the truth is because she wants help. Sometimes it's unfortunate people have to go to jail. You know, substance abuse is is it's a real thing and it's a sickness a lot of people have and it's a coping mechanism a lot of people have. But what a lot of people don't realize is by placing somebody into the criminal justice system, whether that's jail and starting the formal prosecution side of things, um that's enabling them to start getting that help whether they take it, you know, upon themselves to do it, whether they're offered probation or treatment or getting court mandated treatment. So in cases like that, I mean, yes, she has the drugs. it's illegal, but she's obviously struggling with addiction. And a lot of people that struggle with addiction, it's hard for them to go and take those steps themselves, or if they do take those steps, it's hard for them to stick with it. But by integrating them in the in the criminal justice system, I think we've gone a long way as far as, you know, helping people with substance abuse. Taking that step and getting them integrated in the system can be that big leap that starts getting them that help whether it's, you know, forced or not, and starts enabling them and providing them those resources um to get clean. Uh register owner's vehicle is showing to have a felony warrantly. So we'll approach him and see what's going on. See if the register owner is in the vehicle and go from there. Driving down the road, perform a routine registration check on the vehicle. Came kind of next to the vehicle on the roadway. Ran the plate ran the registered owner, which we can do. Um there's no expectation of privacy on the roadway. which enables us to run plates and then discovered the registered owner had a felony arrest warrant issued from a county across the state. How's it going? Hey, good man. Hey, I'm just I'm with the sheriff's office. I'm just stopping you because it looks like there's a problem with the registered owner's license. Are you the registered owner of the vehicle? Okay, cool. Where you headed from, man? From the casino. Oh, okay. How'd you do tonight? Huh? How'd you do at the casino? I lost my butt. You lost? No, that's not good, man. Do you have a license, man, so I can look into it? Trying to play it cool. Don't want to give, you know, them the upper hand while they're still in the vehicle in the driver's seat and they're in control. I didn't disclose to them he had the warrant or that was why I stopped them until I had them out of the vehicle. Essentially, the reason why we do that is the vehicle's their domain. They know what's in there. They if there's weapons in there while you confront them, they might decide to grab them. Then also at that point, if you're confronting them about things while they're in the driver's seat, they can take off. You know, they might decide to flee at that point or try to use a vehicle against you as a weapon. So, um I'm a big uh essentially advocate for not not confronting people and asking those tough questions um while they're in the driver's seat, while they're in that position of control. Still, um is there any weapons in the vehicle or anything, man? No. Nothing? No weapons or anything? No guns, knives, or anything crazy like that. Okay, cool, man. Okay. Um, I'll work on looking that insurance info up. Um, I just have to No, you're good. I'm I'll just have to type it in on my computer to look it up. All right, man. Okay. Um, just so I have to type that in. Just step out while I look that info up. Okay, you're good. Yep. Then just come up here. Okay. No weapons on your person, man. Okay, cool. Just come to that headlight. Okay, I'm just going to look it up that way. Cool. You can wait right here, brother. Right by the headlight, man. Yep. You're good. What's that? Okay. Okay. Um, so you do have a warrant issued for arrest out of Green Lake County. Okay. Put your other hand behind your back. Yeah, put your other hand behind your back. Okay. Appreciate your cooperation. Okay. It is out of Green Le County. It's showing it's for drugs. Okay. Just going to make sure you don't have any weapons on you real quick. Okay. Nothing else. Okay. Just to get you out of the cold and off the side of the road, I'm just going to put you in my car. I'm not going to drive away from here until we get it confirmed. Okay. Um, we'll go from there with it. Okay. Come over here. Okay. We got We can work with you here. Give me a second, man. Yep. Just step to your left, man. You're able to squeeze in, man. You're thin, dude. Damn, man. I can't believe this [ __ ] Um, yeah. Give me one second, man. the pole piece. Give me one second. We're going to work through it. Um, again, I'm not I'm not going to leave here unless the warrant's valid. No, that's probably valid, man. But don't leave my car here. Okay, I'm going to close the door just for now and I'll talk to you here in a second. Okay, cool. So, our backup officer arrives. We already have him in the vehicle at that point. He's kind of debriefing to her and then uh not not more than a, you know, 30 seconds after, she asks, "Hey, what's that on the ground over there?" It's on the ground near the passenger side of the vehicle. So, we go walk over there, see what it is. Lo and behold, it's a completely intact uh meth pipe about 3 to 4 feet uh from the passenger side door of the vehicle. It's a pipe. H I didn't notice that. So, pretty coincidental that ended up right there as soon as we stopped him. Um, yeah. So, we'll have to go back and look at the dash cam. I was just thinking about that. So, we go back, get the dash camera footage. Um, watch it. Watch the vehicle as we're stopping it. You know, the vehicle comes to a stop. We see as I'm exiting uh my patrol vehicle to walk around to approach the vehicle. We see the white object, which is the pipe. We see it fly out of the passenger side window and rest onto the ground. So, suspicions confirmed. It was thrown out of the vehicle by the driver. All right. Step out. Okay. Yeah. Step out. What's up? Anything illegal on your person? No. Okay. Face car. Okay. Um, yes, the warrant is active. Okay. So, right now, um, you are under arrest. Because you're under arrest, I'm just going to read your rights. Okay. So, you do have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk with an attorney and have him or her present. Yeah, let me finish. Okay. You have the right to talk with an attorney and have him or her present while you're being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire an attorney, it won't be appointed to represent you free of any cost to you. You can decide at any time to exercise each of these rights, not answer any questions or make any statements. Do you understand those rights? Okay, cool. Nothing illegal on your person, right? Do me a favor, man. Lift your arms up, okay? So I can check your waistband. Go and have a seat. Okay. My my father, though. Yeah, I will have a seat. Okay. You said you understood those rights I read. You're right. Yeah. Okay. What's up with the pipe, dude? The what? The pipe. No, you didn't have a pipe. No. What? Really? You search me right now, man. No, I I obviously didn't pull a pipe out of your pocket. What about the pipe that was right next to your car? No, I don't have no pipe, bro. I'm serious, man. Come on, man. I'm serious. What you you know that there's a dash cam in my car and we just walked Look at it then because I don't got no So, a meth pipe just randomly flew out of your car as we stopped you. Look, look at me, man. Why flew out of my car? Do you think I'm just making this up out of nowhere? Yes. Really? So, you're telling me the dash camera in my car that shows the pipe, a meth pipe flying out of your window as soon as we pulled you over and resting on the ground right next to your car. Just ended up there magically. I'm asking you. I told you. It's a question. I don't have a pipe. Did you throw the pipe out the window? So, it's just a ghost that threw it out your window. I don't know what you're saying, man. I don't see no pipe. I literally we have it on video of you throwing a pipe out of your window. You serious? You see me throwing something out of your window? Yes. I'm not joking. I'm not making this up for no reason. I'm asking you. I totally know. No, you don't know anything about that. No, I don't, man. Okay. All right. A really a lot of what we say is one or the other as far as tell being truthful or not. We really don't see a lot of in between. So, I was expecting one or two things. Um, either maybe some honesty of an accountability of, "Yeah, I did it. I was dumb or whatever. I did it." Or straight up denial like deny, deny, deny till the end. Call it good. I even told him we had it on video. Continue to deny it. Okay. So, I mean, it is what it is, right? We have the proof, we have the video. um he could deny it, but at the end of the day, we know what's going on. It is what it is. I mean, that's our job. We get lied to a lot. Uh but really, that's why we take the steps we do, get the evidence we do, so we can counter those lies and and really show the tr the truth of what happened. Okay. So, um he knows nothing about the meth pipe flying out of his car and onto the ground. So, we reviewed the video of the dash cam. We see it flying out the window. Um, I didn't notice it upon my approach to the vehicle because I was, it's dark. I was shining my flashlight in the car and really paying attention to the driver for safety reasons. Um, but our backup officer did notice. Um, when she pulled up, she noticed the pipe resting on the ground. So, good on her. Good eye. Um, we reviewed the dash cam video. Uh, saw the pipe flying out of the window and as soon as we pulled him over. So, that gives us problems to search the vehicle. He's denying uh knowing any knowledge of about it. So apparently a ghost picked it up and threw it out the window, I guess. But um we're that gives a probable cause to search the vehicle. So we're going to go ahead and uh perform a probable cause search, see if there's anything else um illegal inside of the vehicle. Oh yeah. So, here's already here's another mouthpipe right here. It's a baby one, though. So, well, unfortunately, we have to check inside of these cuz I've seen it before where they are hauled out. So, never know. Oh, nice. Maybe I can see. Oh, okay. So, when you move the car, where was it at? Uh, on the driver side. Okay, cool. All right. Tow truck comes, moves the vehicle for us. After they move the vehicle, we find another piece of evidence uh which was a clear plastic bag baggie which had a big shard of meth in it. So, lo and behold, we go back, watch the dash camera footage again. Turns out we discovered at that point as he was exiting the vehicle and I was walking around, he reached towards the beneath his vehicle, put the bag of meth down there. Then you could also see on the the camera he used his left foot to kick the baggie and scoot it underneath his vehicle hoping we wouldn't find it. It's a good size rock, huh? It is. It's huge. It's pretty solid. It's probably like couple grams. Nice. Well, yeah. Nice. So, that is a chunk of crystal meth. What's up with this, bro? Come on, man. Yeah. What I'm holding in my hand. No, it's not mine. It's not yours? No. How is it mine? Where'd you get it from? Really? Me? Yeah. No idea. You don't know? No, I don't. Seriously. Just like you don't know about the pipe flying out of your car. Okay. again plays the game of I have no idea what you're talking about. I show it to him and again I have no idea what you're talking about. So at that point I get we're not going to get anywhere talking to him. So we have it on video have the proof. Overall I mean he he tried to get a oneup on us and you know tried to tried to basically you know trick us essentially or get a oneup on us and hide this stuff but it didn't work. I think that is a good uh good teamwork, right? Good teamwork for my second officer arriving on scene, saying, "Hey, what's that? Hey, I noticed that." Um, paying attention to things maybe that I didn't see the first time around. Overall, you know, good teamwork, good vigilance, which is what what what helped to be a good investigation and good case. So, 3.35 grams of methampetamine. Um, pretty decent crystal. I think I've said that in another video, but yeah, pretty decent. That's a big chunk. So, at this point, he's going to be booked into the jail um for charges of the felony drug arrest warrant, possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of dangerous drugs, and tampering and destroying physical evidence. So, good fine night, good drugs off the street, and a good warrant off the street. We'll get him booked into jail and get on with the next [Music] Yeah. Heat. [Music]