her friend started freaking out about I don't know what the so she got all scared and brought him he started to like fall asleep bro so I panicked >> my boyfriend had dropped a piece of fentanyl on the bed and I didn't know if he had gotten it or not you know >> when I came in he was screaming and crying okay so that's a good thing cuz what happens with fentanyl bros they stop breathing and then they have a heart attack and they die that's that's how the overdoses happen okay >> on March 24th 2025 officers responded to a call about an infant in distress at a home in Espanola New Mexico. The infant was exposed to fentinel and required medical care in the neonatal intensive care unit where they responded well to treatment. As reported by authorities, the parents had been using the substance regularly in the home and state child protective services were involved to ensure the child's safety. What's up, Matthew? How are you, bro? I'm >> good. >> Have a seat, brother. Matthew, you got anything on you, bro? >> No. >> Have a seat, big dog. I know you're stressed out right now. So, um, my name's Officer Bers with the SPL Police Department. You obviously know I were called, right? >> Yeah. >> So, what happened, brother? >> I don't know, bro. The >> Talk to me. >> He said that something that he that he might have uh swallowed up from the friend, but she wasn't sure. >> The mother Where's mom at now? >> She left in the car. >> She took off in the car. >> Mhm. What's mom's name? >> Uh, Caitlyn. >> Caitlyn what? >> And where is mom staying at? >> On the streets, bro. >> What car is she in right now? >> Nissan Ultima. >> What color? >> Blue. >> Blue Nissan Ultima. Where would she be going from here? >> I have no idea, sir. >> I have no idea. >> Do you have a an ID on you? >> I don't. I don't, sir. >> You recognize me? No. Okay. All right, bro. So, from >> Yeah. So, from beginning to end, tell me what happened. >> I know I know you're stressing out right now, brother, but I got I got a job to do right now. Okay. >> Yeah. the mother came and said that uh >> that he was that he was playing over there with the other kid and uh that her friend started freaking out about I don't know what the so she got all scared and brought him and I was watching him I give him some milk and stuff and he started to like fall asleep bro so I panicked and I just want to make sure he's okay bro >> so your baby's okay right now he's responsive okay they they narcend I mean, he's he's okay. I got to get to the bottom of the story. Where were they at? >> I have no idea. >> So, how did you how if you didn't know where they at? How did you come into contact with your with your baby again? >> She she back to the house. >> Where's your house at? >> Uh the trailer park. >> Which house is it, bro? Which number would you be back over there now? >> Possibly. one 7s meal. >> She doesn't have keys or anything. >> Hey, if you can send one of the units over to Cooks Mobile Home Park, check and see if that vehicle is located at uh what was the house number on house. >> So, basically, bro, she your your wife, your girlfriend or whatever mom, the baby's mom had the baby. They were hanging out somewhere. You don't know where they were playing. >> They were playing and then somehow this kiddo got a hold of what a blue or what? >> I have no idea. So I I started yelling at her and >> freaking out on there, bro. >> So when she brought him to you, what did she tell you? >> She just said that she was worried. >> Tell You got to be a little bit more specific with me, bro. I got to find out. He was worried that she thought that her friend thought he might have took something. >> And what what was her reasoning to that? I didn't ask all that. >> And so then she drove you up here with the baby or what? >> Yeah. >> And then took off as soon as you guys got in here. >> I didn't even know she left. I was the one that drove. >> Does your girlfriend >> I saw the keys right here too. I didn't know left in it. >> Does your girlfriend or or wife um is she known to use blues? >> Yeah, but she was supposed to be clean. Do you use blues too or no? >> She was supposed to be tuned though. >> Do you use any other sort of narcotics there, bro? >> Just uh strips, bro. >> Suboxins. >> Yeah. >> So, I see I see your uh your work, right? So, you're you're a Westside local. What do you go by on the streets, brother? >> Cuz I refer to you that just out of respect. You know what I mean? Lo, >> he's okay, bro. He's Are you sure? >> They have him. They're treating him right now. When I came in, he was screaming and crying. Okay, so that's a good thing. That's a good thing cuz what happens with fentanyl, bro, they stop breathing and then they have a heart attack and they die. That's That's how the overdoses happen. Okay. So, you did the right thing bringing them in. >> I don't care about what was your first what was your first last name again? >> Matthew. one. I got one for you by name and date of birth when you're clear. Name and date of birth when you're clear. >> Here's the thing. I got a couple questions, bro. So So your your chick, is she homeless and not with you? You guys together? You guys like working on it or >> it's like off and on, bro? >> Off and on. So >> here and there. >> Because So she so she's living in she's living homeless and then how's the how's the child custody go, bro? How does that work? >> She h she has custody. >> She has custody of him. >> She has Yeah. And what was her first last name again? >> Kayen >> one 7s. I've got another one for you by name and uh >> yeah I can't keep >> approximate age when you get a chance. >> She's the one that has custody. >> So she has legal custody over >> there is there documents doc uh court documents legal documents over that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And what's his is well obviously he might have asked you. So is he have you have custom or you >> So we have like joints with uh >> Yeah. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. So, is it like a 50/50 or what? Or >> Yeah. And then my mom >> Blue Ultima shows up, call us out there right away. >> Okay. >> Hey, um real quick, I need you to run one more. What was your mom's name, bro? >> Marie. >> It'll be Marie. How old's your mom? >> Sure. Uh I have no idea. >> Give me a guess. I'm going to say let's see 35 45. >> Does she live here? >> 52. >> Around 52. Does she live here in town? >> She lives in Cordova. >> She lives in and she'll be out of Cordova. Um, run her and attach her to the call. And when you do the reverse search, the vehicle that the mom took off in from here belongs to this woman. And if you can bowl out that 28 >> and just advise. >> Serious. >> He's gonna panic. He's gonna panic. I'm telling you. >> Hey, so for for for your for your baby's mom, that vehicle, is it a key fob or is it a key? >> It's a key fob. >> Okay. So, she can only get so far cuz you have the key fob with you, right? >> So, she's going to have to come back or wherever she shuts the car off, she's screwed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Ma'am, um, who has custody? Cuz the understanding is is he has full custody. >> Him and mom have custody. >> Okay. Him and mom have custody and they they split it. >> Yep. >> Okay. Okay. >> Like I told you, I can't Does >> your Does your go with me on the weekends because I pick him up every weekend, spend time with >> my my big question is mom is or grandma, does she do you guys have a way of contacting her, calling her? >> Yes. Can we do that so we can get We need to get her here >> or >> there's a baby overdosing in the next room and we need to verify the stories because somebody's going to end up having to go to jail. >> Let me call her. Let's see if she can make it here. >> Um, give me one second. Let me talk to my sergeant cuz if she sees the police cars outside, she might refuse to come. So, give me one minute. Okay. All right, brother. So, just for the time being, I'm going to cuff you from the front. Okay. But you are you are you are being detained right now. Okay. Somebody, we've got to figure this thing out. Turn your wrist like this for me. Like that. Yeah. Let me double lock those for you so they don't piss up on you. Oops. [Applause] >> I'm not coughing you from the back, bro, because I know you're stressed out right now. Can I >> get some more water, please, bro? Yeah. Yeah. I'll grab you some water. Um, this the thing, bro. Nothing matters right now but that baby matters. >> Nothing that matters right now but that baby. The baby is the only thing that matters. Okay. >> Yes, sir. >> There's an 18year-old 18month old baby in there that's fighting for their life, basically. You know what I'm saying? >> It's one of those things, bro. You got This is why you It's not worth the risk, Doug. And And those that fentanyl, bro, is something else, you know? I I know you don't know what it was, but you know, lately in law enforcement, bro, when we have drugs, it on babies, it's they >> they eat the they eat the blues thinking it's a candy and >> that's it, bro. >> You know, >> that's it. >> So, you want me to take you and see what the story is. >> So, we're going to go up to we're going to go up to the jail. >> If his story checks out and she says, "Yeah, you know, whatever." Well, then we know where to go from there. Go ahead. Go into this one here, brother. Right here. And I'll have them come take off those cuffs here in just a second. Okay. So, I'm going to read you something real quick. Okay. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him or her present with you while you're being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish. You can decide at any time to exercise these rights, not answer my questions or make any statements. Do you understand your rights to explain them to you? >> Yes, sir. I understand. >> Having these rights in mind, are you willing to answer my questions? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. So, look, >> quick question, but before you start, are you going to question her out here in there? >> Out here. Let her have a smoke and take a breath. >> Do you want one of these guys to pick up the warrant arrest? You have to do an additional report. >> Uh, no. It's my fault. >> You're just going to add it to the report. They're going to stop it then just on the stop. >> Cool. >> And you can take care. >> Sure. >> Hey, I'm going to do your sky report now. >> Thank you, Sergeant. >> Okay. So, when you're >> I'll talk to you. Okay. So, let's just start with this. Okay. From beginning to end, tell me your perspective. What happened, where the baby was, where you were, like what what's the deal with all this tonight? >> I had my six-month-old with a little backpack on my chest >> and I was cleaning the >> Where's the sixmonth old at now? with my mom at the hospital with my dad. >> Okay. Okay. So, so this is the baby that overdosed. >> No, no, >> no. This is the other baby. >> Yeah, this is my other son. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> So, I had my other son in a little backpack. >> Same dad or no? >> Yeah, same dad. And um >> I was cleaning the stove and uh >> Matt, big Matt, not little Matt, not my son, was like, "Hey, dude, is he throwing up or what?" He was on the floor and he was crawling and I was like, "No, what is wrong with you, dude? Like, he's not throwing up." cuz we were already like kind of arguing. And then I was like, "Why, dude?" Like, and so I went and I picked up my older son and he's all because like I just found this and it's wet. And I was like, "Well, why the was it on the bed, dude? Like you need to be more careful with >> And this and this is about this is about the baby that the 18-month-old." Yes. >> That was throwing up. >> Yeah. Well, but he wasn't throwing up. Okay. So, I picked up my son. I checked on him. I went and washed his hands. I brushed his teeth. Um, and then I was like, "Okay, well, he seems all right." Hey, you know, so I put him in um I think this was at like 8 8:30. He's usually in bed by 9:30. So I put him in a bath cuz our regular routine like every day, you know, before bed and he was fine the whole time in the bath. And then when I bought him out and I was putting lotion on him and putting him in his pajamas, I noticed that his lips were like kind of discolored and he was like rubbing his nose and starting to get tired. And I told him, "Dude, like I'm not I'm like not going to let nothing happen to the baby. Dude, you need to take him to the hospital, dude. We can't just sit here and wait for something to happen to him, you know." >> And why did you want to take him to the hospital? Just because he was throwing up or >> No. Well, because like he thought he my boyfriend had dropped a piece of fentanyl on the bed and I didn't know if he had gotten it or not, you know, and I told him like, "It's not about us. I don't care if I have warrants. Like I don't care if you're if you don't want to go to jail. Like we need to take him to the hospital." So, we took him and from there me and my six-month-old went home and then my mother-in-law wanted to just let him right here. >> Okay. >> But when I took them, like my 18-month-old was still like awake and responding and was still okay. I just wanted him to take him just to make sure that he was going to be okay so that there wasn't >> So, at any point, did you leave the house with your babies? >> No. >> And this is the house down at Cooks? >> Yeah. But no, I didn't leave the house at any point until I took them to the hospital. >> Okay. So, you didn't go with a friend today? >> No, I haven't gone anywhere today. I've been home all day. >> My other question is why did you leave the hospital when your baby was overdosing? >> I didn't know if he was overdosing or not. Cuz I had my six-month >> Well, here's the thing. You just told me that your your husband said that he thought he left a piece of fentanyl on the on the on the bed. >> So, you thought he was overdosing, right? Yeah, I had my sixmonth old with me and he was still like kind of crying and like I was just going to go and get him and his I knew his mom was going, you know. >> Okay. >> And so at that no point you let you did not leave the house at all the day. No, >> there was no friend that came and picked you up. >> No. >> And you stay there at the the the home and cooks. >> Yes. >> Okay. Did you ever see a a piece of fentanyl on the bed? Did you see anything like that? I was cleaning the stove like I said and like before Matt had gotten on the bed with them. Um it was clean. It was fine. I had just had my baby, my six-month-old on there with all his little toys like >> And do you or Matt use? >> Um I am like so I went to jail for 30 days and I got clean and like I don't like fully fully use like I've like obviously relapsed a couple of times but I still like do my subtitles but yes I've relapsed. >> Okay. So you're you're so you're using blues again? >> Um like not all the time. >> What you use? Okay. >> How often do you say you would use? >> Um >> how often? >> Um all day every day. But he's like going to go get clean. He um has an an appointment on the 31st to uh go to a treatment in Rio Rancho. >> Like another one, please. >> Yeah. >> Don't pop it. Don't pop. >> You want to pop it? Okay. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. So, inside of your house, are is are there any narcotics inside of there right now? >> No, there's not. Like, um, obviously he does use, but I'm like usually pretty good about keeping everything clean and picked up. >> Where do you where do you guys use when you do use? >> Um, I smoke outside at the back door. >> And like when he does, he either smokes outside in the back door or in the car or in the back bathroom. >> Okay. >> But never around our kids. And like they have their room like I mean there's dishes in the sink but the house is not thrashed or anything. >> So he uses all day all the time and the babies are with you guys. >> Um well he's not ever really like always around us. He's usually like doing his own thing and I take care of our kids like he >> but in the house. He's doing his own thing in the house. No. >> No. And I'm not saying he uses all day long or anything like that. Like >> Well, I mean you told me he uses pretty much all day just a little like a few seconds ago. to like to sustain himself. I'm not saying that he sits there and gets high and does like hundreds of moves all day, but yes, he has to do it. >> And how often do you say you use? >> Um, like once or twice a day. >> And you guys have the babies from Monday through Friday. Is that is that correct? >> Monday through Thursday. >> Monday through Thursday. And then who? And then grandma takes the babies from there. >> Mhm. >> And does grandma use it all? >> No, she works at the lab. She's a good She's a good support. >> Okay. When we had our 18-month-old, we had a case that was CFD that had opened. It only stayed open 45 days. >> And what was that for? >> Um for uh exposure for him obviously. And I was using at the time. >> So exposure the baby getting exposed. You're 18month-old. >> Yeah. >> So this isn't the first time this has happened. >> No, not when he was born like from me having him like cuz I was using when I was pregnant. >> Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. So I got the hospital. >> Yes. Okay. And um with my 6-month-old like I was able to get clean and there was never any suicide case open or anything like that. But the one with my 18month-old had closed within 45 days and we've had custody of him since like >> Okay. >> And I mean like >> and so this is my thing. So your your husband's story isn't lining up with your story. And I and my job here my job here is to get to the bottom of and find what's actually going on. >> What is he saying? So, from my understanding is earlier today your husband was playing the PS5 and you went with a friend, right? And then you came back the your friend was telling you that she was worried that your son was playing with another kiddo with her kiddo and she was concerned that the baby had found something at her place and the baby had overdosed. >> So, there's some hesitation there. So, you're obviously thinking about something. Well, I'm just I don't want him to be mad at me, dude. Like, I >> Well, I mean, here's the thing. >> And I don't care. I know you don't care about This is what I'm telling you. >> I only care about my son. That's why I'm telling you. That's why I'm telling you the truth. >> Well, I'm trying to figure out why you hesitated and looked around to think about what you were going to respond. >> I don't want him to hate me and think I ruined my family. >> This is This is what I'm going to tell you. This is what I'm going to tell you. You're going to have to Do you have any evidence to support what you're saying right now? Because right now the baby is all that matters. >> I know. I honestly dude I have just you and you taking my word, but like I hadn't left anywhere all day, dude. Like I mean I know it's a long shot, dude. And I don't know if you guys are willing to do all the work, but dude, there's plenty of businesses across the street from our house, dude. Like you could go look at their cameras. I know for a fact my neighbor that owns that shop across the street has a camera that faces towards our house and his cameras face towards my house, dude. And you'll never see me leave house. Like, >> okay, >> I'm not trying to lie to you about anything. I just wanted to make sure my son's okay. >> So, let me recap. You were around what time did this happen initially? >> I think at like 8:00. >> And dad was in the bedroom with the babies. >> No, he was out. He was Okay. So, in in our living room there's like a bed on the floor cuz right now we're redoing our back bedroom and um our bed our bedroom is like not clean. and we're in the middle of getting everything picked up and it's just not a place where I want my kids cuz there's no room on the bed or anything. There's clothes everywhere. >> And do you guys use in that bedroom? >> No. No, we don't. There's no familiar or anything like that in there. It's just there's clothes all over. >> Okay. So, he was in the living room. >> Yeah. And then Okay. So, when you walk into our house, like it to the right is the living room and then there's our couches and then we have a little bed on the floor and then to the left is the kitchen and the dining room and then there's another room right there and that's my kids' room. Okay. And they have their beds in there. >> Okay. >> So, I sleep in the living room and I put my boys to sleep in their room cuz I'm able to see inside the room like where they're at when they sleep. >> And so, your your husband was in the living room on that bed or what? >> Yes. >> With the kiddos? >> Yes. Not with the kiddos. I had my six-month-old on my chest in the living room. >> And And where was the 18-month-old? >> And the 18-month-old was playing on the floor and like on the side of the bed by his dad. >> Okay. And so, you're doing the stove and then what happened? Um, like I said, he uh was like, "Have Matt throwing up." And I was like, "No, dude." And I went and picked him up. I was like, "Why, dude? Like, what the's wrong with you?" And he was like, "Um, because I think he might have got something like" And I was well, dude. >> And did he indicate what that something was? >> No, he just >> Cuz when you first told me, you said it was a piece of a blue. >> No, I said it was fentanyl. >> Okay. So, it was a piece of >> So, fentanyl powder. >> Uh, I don't Yeah. Yeah. >> So, like China White. Mhm. >> And you guys just keep Does your husband keep that in baggies or what? >> Um, I'm sure he does. I mean, I don't pay attention to what he does with his, you know what I mean? But like he usually has it in a bag and has it put away in a box like so that it's out of reach. Where's that box at outside underneath the steps or in his car? >> Okay. And so he's So your did your husband indicate that he thought that he got a hold of the fentanyl powder? Um, he wasn't sure if he did or not, but like I said, I wouldn't >> Did you see any Did you see any white residue on on the baby? >> I didn't see any. >> Did he see any white residue on the baby? >> He didn't tell me he did. And like I said, and then after he had said that and I picked up my son and I went and washed his hands and I brushed his teeth and I put him in the bath to get him ready for bed. I had looked on the bed and I didn't see anything or anything like that. Like >> Okay. >> And so did dad ever give him like milk or water or anything like that? Uh he he drank two two like little cups of milk cuz his cup's about that big cuz he's starting to drink out of a cup. >> And so the baby was throwing up. >> No, he didn't. He didn't throw. >> Oh, but you guys thought he was. >> Yeah, he had thought he was and he asked me if he was and I told him that he wasn't. >> Okay. And so then dad gave the baby some milk. Two bottles. >> No, he didn't give him milk. I don't know why he thought he was throwing up. He just I was cleaning the stove and he asked me if he threw up. Okay. So I told him no. Like I didn't see him throwing up. I went and picked him up. I checked on him and he was like, "Well, I think he might have gotten something." I don't know if he did or not. >> So, I'm just trying to clarify this cuz dad said that he had gave him some fluid. What fluid did he give the baby? >> He gave him milk when he was in the bath, but >> that was before him. >> That was after he had thought he fall. >> And so, so then he puts him in the bath. >> No, I put him in the bath. >> Okay. And you guys And so he gets him >> and I started getting him ready for bed cuz he didn't it didn't seem like there was anything wrong with him. So, dad said that while he was giving the baby milk that he was talking to the baby and the baby started falling asleep, which is outside of the norm. So, is your ba is your baby normally pretty pretty hyper? >> Uh, yeah, but like he's on a really good schedule. So, like he's in bed every night. >> So, did you see that? Did you see the baby falling asleep? >> Uh, no. Can I finish telling you? So, it'll try to make sense to you. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay. So, after I had picked him up and checked on him, it didn't seem like there was anything wrong to him. And like from uh previous people I've seen overdosed before, like I would think if an infant was going to get something like that, he would have like fallen out or whatever right away, you know? >> So I didn't think there was anything wrong with him. That's why I got him in the bath and started getting him ready for bed. And then he probably stayed in the bath for about like 45 minutes, which is like the norm time that he does. Like I said, he goes to bed at 9:30. And when I got him out of the bath and I started putting lotion on him, like I told you, I started noticing like a little bit that he was rubbing his nose. His lips look like a little discolored and >> discolored doesn't like was it changing blue, purple, just white? >> No, just like a little white and just not the regular color that they usually are. >> And so the and the nose that's like a typical thing when people do opioids, right? >> Yeah. And so like from dad saying that he think he got something, I didn't want anything to happen to my son and my son to die or anything. I told him you need to take him to the hospital with dude like just to make sure that he's okay so nothing happens to him. >> So then you rush him to the hospital, dropped dad and baby off and then >> and then I went back and >> and then obviously now we're here with all this other stuff. >> Okay. Okay. Well, I think that's all the questions I have for you right now. And then >> I mean I don't want my husband to hate me and I know he's I know. Can you just hear me out, please? Like I know like I know you don't give a about us and you probably think we're pieces of >> Well, that's not what I'm saying. But what I'm what I am saying is my my concern is the baby. Period. >> I know. I know. And I I know he and somebody will be held accountable for I'm just trying to get you to understand where he's coming from and because he's been in prison before and so much and I don't want my family to end because I told you the truth, dude. Like I know obviously you're going to go back and tell me, hey, this is what we said and just I just want you to tell him that like >> Well, right now you got to be worried about the baby and the baby only. And that's got to be your only concern. >> I know. But I care about him and cuz like him and his mom and my kids are all I have. I don't have my parents or any family dude. Like >> I understand that. I I get it. You're in a you're in a tight spot. But you know, if you're being honest with me, I appreciate the honesty and and at the end of the day, the baby is what matters. Period. Period. Okay. And you have two babies riding on this, not just >> I know. And like honestly, like that's why like in my eyes, like I wanted him to take him because I didn't want anything to happen to my son. And then at the same time, I still wanted to be able to be there for my kids, too, dude. Like, >> Yep. So, I'll have to talk to dad, but we'll figure it out as it goes. Okay. >> And I know I'm obviously doing jokes on my arms, but like what else is like happening or >> I'll let you know that as it as it transpires. Okay. The parents were charged with firstdegree mishandle of a child resulting in great bodily harm and thirdderee mishandle of a child following their arrest and booked into the Rio Aribba County detention center. No bond information was provided as they awaited further court proceedings. 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