Coming up, a segment from a previous Cop and Con episode. Sergeant gets indicted for an officer-involved shooting. Is this shooting justified? You decide. Sergeant Sergeant Bruno, who actually was indicted, I believe it was yesterday. Uh actually, it was on April 7th of an incident that occurred about a year ago, May 29th of 2019. >> year to indict this idiot. Yeah. So, let's go ahead and take a watch this Look at this video. David, any point, just tell me to rewind it. I know those folks who are watching, um they they want to see it in clear and get get our take from a again from a law enforcement perspective and from a a con's perspective. So, let's go ahead and go through. >> Right. He's got He's a sergeant is approaching. He's He pulls up in his car. Sounds like a horse. Drop the [ __ ] bat now. DROP THE [ __ ] BAT. DROP THE [ __ ] BAT NOW. DROP THE [ __ ] bat now. >> We need to cover. Drop the [ __ ] bat. >> Nope. Drop the [ __ ] BAT. WHOA. DROP THE [ __ ] BAT. WHOA. I'm going to get Wow. >> No, bro. Uh Hey, listen. You told me about this. I seen him get out and run. I didn't You didn't let me watch out went to the end. Okay, this guy's a douchebag. I'm sorry. First of all, Okay. >> Which guy? Which guy's a douchebag? Well, uh the other guy might be a dead douchebag. I don't know, but I'm talking about the police officer. Uh obviously, the way he ran up on the scene, there was three or four cops or whatever already standing there, right? Run that back. Watch how he pushes them out of the way. All right, let's go ahead and run it just a little bit. Wa- Watch this. Drop the [ __ ] bat now. DROP THE [ __ ] BAT. >> YES. YES, right there. >> Okay, pushes him out of the way. Now, that this guy is how many feet away? I mean, I can't 20 feet? I'd say probably yeah, probably about 20 20 feet away and the magic number >> 20 feet away, he's not swinging the bat. Now, listen, the police officer might have known something we didn't know. Maybe he knew this guy. Maybe this guy's done violent stuff before. But, him running up, pushing him out of the way while that guy's standing there, not swinging, not coming at him, and shooting him, that's wrong in every sense of the word, bro. Yeah. Well, my thought was the the sergeant probably has been listening this listening to this unfold on the radio for the last probably 10 minutes or so, and he's got all of his resources over there. And by the time he gets there, he's probably in his mind going, "I'm going to [ __ ] take care of this right now." So, obviously, when he gets there, his judgment is is blurred, in my opinion. Because >> In your opinion? Buddy, Ray Charles could have seen his judgment was blurred. Yeah, it's crazy. >> yeah, he he I mean, that's just Well, it took him a year to indict him. I don't know why it took that long. Let's see, let's count let's count how long it took from the time he pulled his drew his weapon till he actually shot him. I mean, cuz really realistically right now, as a police officer, time is really on your side. This guy is not threatening anybody that I can see other than law enforcement officers, which there's I think we counted 11 of them at the end there. Okay, so there I I seen the two or three standing, but but isn't your job isn't your job to de-escalate? Isn't that the first tactic? >> Absolutely, 100%. There's absolutely no de-escalation. It's like, "Hey, you know, put down the bat. Put down the bat. Let me tell you why this bothers me so much. Let me tell you why this bothers me so much. What's that? You know why this bothers me so much that he did this? Cuz I've been this same exact guy before. I've had a baseball bat. I've been out there doing it, acting crazier than this guy. And then the cop ended up talking to me, "Come on, man. Get the Give me the bat. What are you going to do? You want it to end?" And I And I dropped the bat. I was like, "Yeah, you're right." Yeah. This guy ran up. I don't know how long they've been. I don't care if they've been there an hour or they've been 6 hours. We've watched other cops in the woke-ity woke woke world that they stand there for 30 minutes arguing with a guy who you know he's got a hand on a gun. You know what I mean? Like I don't Yeah, that He should He should have got indicted. He got indicted. Yes. We're going to see how that fall that trial all the way through to see how that goes out. But I'm going to count um kind of give you an idea of like how much time it was literally Drop the [ __ ] bat. Drop the [ __ ] bat now. Drop the [ __ ] bat now. Drop the [ __ ] bat. Drop the [ __ ] bat. Drop the [ __ ] bat. Yeah, I I say 10 if you're counting from when he first Get on your [ __ ] stomach. Get on your [ __ ] stomach now. Oh, yeah. Get on your stomach. I just shot you while you were standing. >> Control him first. Control him. They're controlling. He's going to get controlled in the big house. I promise you that. Get a bat. Yeah, so how many officers did you count there, Dave? One one two three four five six seven like nine 10. Seven. Cuz there's a couple right there. Yeah, I don't like this one, man. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of presence there. Well, yeah. Couple of those guys This one dude in the middle, he's just standing there like, hey, I don't know I don't know how that happened. I don't know what He's like he's like I don't want nothing. Look at this guy right here. He's like I want nothing to do with this. I want he he knows he knows it this is this is bad. >> Yeah, the guy in the middle he's like he's actually turning his head like oh, this is not going to be good. >> Yeah, he's like this is bad cuz he's got some sense. Hey, listen, we want to make sure um you comment on this and whoever's watching put your comments. If you know a little bit Comment. Let us know. >> Let us know what you think. Was this justified or not? All right, not. I say no. I said the indictment stands. >> Yes. Here's the thing. That indictment, they're going to be trading him for zoom zoom wham whams and honey buns. I promise you that. He's going to be getting You hate You hate to see it as a police officer for 31 years going Well, yeah. somebody doing this. This sergeant rolls up tells his guys get out of the way and smokes the guy. You know those >> Hey, but let's say this, Tim. Not to play devil's advocate, you know I love you. You're one of my best friends in the world. I know that you were a great police officer and integrity. But before body cams, how many dudes got shot and everybody wrote the same report? I'm just saying, bro. I mean Okay, okay, they're criminal. Okay. Okay, buddy. >> [clears throat] >> Well, I'm just saying, buddy. I'm just saying. How >> [clears throat] >> I don't know. I'm just saying. reformed I I'm reformed. I am, but I'm just saying, you know. Everybody slow down. Suspect is down and under arrest. Just just kind of like the attitude on the radio, too, is like suspect's down. He's under arrest. Everybody calm down. I just eliminated the threat. It's it's over, you know. Yeah, he he He might have been got caught up in the moment, good but he's a sergeant and and he just again, if the guy was running at him swinging with the baseball bat or there was an officer there and he was acting crazy. All he he was like, nope. And again, it goes back. If if the guy wouldn't have been with a baseball bat acting crazy, he would still be alive. Yeah. But Yeah. We got a lot of stuff going on in this world. Mental health, I you know, not you know, I overused the word trauma, you know, but but I'm just saying it's a real thing. So, I don't know what was going on, but I know at times in my life there was a time that I acted crazier than this guy and thank God the sergeant didn't roll up like that on me cuz you wouldn't be looking at me this morning on this camera. Camera. Well, the thing about it is nowadays you got tools, right? You have pepper spray, you've got tasers, you've got all kinds of and and you have 11 police officers. You have five, you have three, whatever it is and nobody else in the proximity that I can see was a threat or he was a threat, too. That's what I'm saying. This whole this whole one this whole incident is is just a bad look all the way. Well, yeah, it's it's it's not good.