We're going to stay here until I can extract you from the vehicle. And ideally, if you do not show me your ID >> I just showed you my ID. >> We just got an alien love >> Well, we're not aliens. >> And they smoke it. Right, but they're >> And we're not smugglers. >> I'm not going to explain the details of >> Okay, you don't have to. I'm just letting you know I do not We do not match our description. So, therefore, you are impeding in our travel. >> You need to understand that arguing is not helping >> I'm not arguing you with you. I'm going to exercise every right that I have as an American citizen. >> These Border Patrol agents pulled a couple over near the California border, claiming their driving looks suspicious due to a recent smuggling report in the area. What they did not expect was a driver who had no intention of handing over his rights just because a badge was demanding it. The couple made it clear from the start that they were American citizens on their way to a dentist appointment and called out every intimidation tactic and fishing attempt the agents threw at them. Rather than stepping back, the agents turned up the pressure with K9 threats and warnings of arrest, but the driver did not flinch and challenged every single move they made. >> All right, listen. So, the reason why we're stopping you is because you did U-turns and there's a there's a known alien smuggling area. >> Okay. >> So, your your vehicle was driving near >> Yeah, we're exploring. >> I That's what >> We're going We're traveling We're on the way to a dentist appointment right now, but we're going this way and then we're going to stop at the casino up the road. We saw a sign for a campground, so we're looking for potential campgrounds. If you put your look back there, we are campers. We have stuff back there >> Okay. >> where we can pop a tent, all that stuff. So, that's the explanation for that. >> Okay. >> And that's the end of conversation. >> That's what So, I just need to see some ID. >> I'm not going to show you I'll show it to you, but I'm not giving it to you. >> I need to see your ID. >> I'll show it to you. >> But, the playing the games isn't going to >> playing games. I'm exercising my rights. >> Right. And I'd love you on your way to camp. >> They're doing something. >> That's it. >> Sir, we're going to stay here until I can extract you from the vehicle. And ideally, if you do not show me your ID >> I just showed you my ID. >> If you cooperate, we >> I'm not going to cooperate because I'm not doing anything wrong. he's running north. So, get your supervisor here now, please. Call your supervisor. >> isn't one. I am the supervisor. >> Here's it again. >> I need to see your license. >> You're not going to have it. I do not consent to any seizures, anything like that. So, I'm not So, I'm exercising Okay, at this point, I'm going to remain silent and exercise all my all rights. >> get a canine out here. This stops going to take a while. >> You do what you got to do. You do what you got to do. >> I need you to turn your people loose. >> No. No. I don't have No. >> Officer, just so you know what's going on, we're waiting for a canine to come out. You can say you can listen. >> Okay, praise the Lord, do all that. Um we're going to remain silent. We haven't done anything wrong. And um you're risking impeding on our way to get to the dentist. You're going to make me late. I've had surgery um over 2 years now of surgery. >> I I understand, sir. I apologize for >> we're going to remain silent and then that's it. >> but but you need to understand >> We're exercising our right to remain silent. Thank you. Have a nice day. >> So, what If you have a dentist appointment, it probably wasn't the best decision to be out in the middle of nowhere. >> No, that's We have the right to travel anywhere we want to travel. >> You do. You're absolutely right you do. And I actually have the right and authority to stop you. >> did, and I told you where we're going. We're not suspicious. So, you're continuing to continuing to to uh you know, your suspicions are not a crime. >> Right, but it's enough to stop you. >> there's not a crime committed here at all. >> Well, actually, we just got we just got an alien load >> Well, we're not aliens. >> Right, but they're >> And we're not smugglers. >> I'm not going to explain the details of the >> Okay, you don't have to. I'm just letting you know I do not We do not match your description. So, therefore, you are impeding in our travel. >> You need to understand that arguing is >> I'm not arguing you with you. I'm going to exercise every right that I have as an American citizen. >> The problem is is that some of what you're saying is misinforming you. >> Uh no, it's not. You can change whatever language you like, but this is what it is. >> But that's But that's fine because we're just going to wait for a canine to come here. We >> Go ahead. What's the canine going to do? There's nobody in my car. Uh you saw the windows. Look it. There's nobody back there. It's just us two. There's nothing illegal in the vehicle. >> Okay, well, that's how I'm going to follow >> Every single thing in this vehicle we have the legal right to possess. So you're going to false flag the canine to give you probable cause to break our windows and pull us out of this vehicle. That's what we see every day you're doing this to American citizens. Why? We already know you tip off the dogs. No, she's not going to ID either. She's not going to ID either and I'm her husband and I'm speaking. She is not going to ID either. This is crazy. You guys are crazy. You racial profiled us and pulled us over for no reason. We did no illegal infractions, no traffic infractions and you pulled us over. We've already told you we're not illegal. Now, are we are you are you are we under arrest? Are we under arrest? Are we free to go? Wait, are we under are we detained? You're illegally detaining us under the threat of arrest? Or under the threat of arrest are you going to detain us? Okay, then never mind. We're not watching YouTube. We're We're exercising our rights. We're not doing YouTube. So are you illegally detaining us? Yes, you are. You are illegally detaining American citizens that have already declared their their states their citizenship. Okay, well why is a dog What does a dog have to do with our citizen status? Huh? Does it smell if I'm if I'm illegal? it smell if I'm from a different country? >> No, it it's called reasonable suspicion. >> So, you're going to false flag the dog to get a a reasonable to Yes, you are. Yes, you guys do. You tip Come on, man. We have dogs, too, all right? We have German Shepherds. We know the rules here, okay? And that's what you're going to do. >> Your German Shepherds have 100 >> Listen, hold on, man. You're full You are so full of it and trying to get into our vehicle that it's nuts. We are American citizens. You are Border Patrol. We didn't do any traffic infractions. I'm going to the dentist and you're making me late. We stopped by cuz we saw a campground thing and we want cuz we like camping. >> Technically, you did a U-turn over double >> I can do as many U- No, I turned into here and I looked around and there was no vehicles within 100 yards of me. >> infraction. However, that is not my deal. That's That's law enforcement's deal. We have that on camera, so I'm I could call them >> We have it on camera, too. We can have it on We have it on camera, too. We safely proceeded off the road. >> That is not what I'm concerned with. What I'm concerned with was your activity in relation to a smuggling event that just >> We are not taking place in any of that. And I'm letting you know that right now. If you want to call, I'll tell you what I will do for you to help you. >> That's what's called a >> I Here's what I'll do to help you. No, here's what I'll do to help you. I will give you the number to the Torrey Del Mar Dentistry and you can ask him if they're expecting me and my wife because they know both of us, okay? So, how's that? >> What is the >> That would end your investigation completely. >> Your dentist appointment has nothing to do with why you're being stopped. >> saying that we're being stopped because of a smuggling activity. The dentist is going to let you know right now, "No, they're not smuggling. They're on the way to the dentist." >> Okay, I don't I don't understand how that's relevant. >> Okay, then you do not know how to do an investigation properly. >> This stop has nothing to do with your dentist appointment. >> Yes, it does. I just told you that's where we're going. We're not doing smuggling. We're going to the dentist. >> Okay. >> All of my life, 50 years I've been here, I've never been harassed by Border Patrol on this side of the border like this. This is outrageous. >> Well, I'm Your new Your Your Your opinion at this point >> It's not an opinion. It's a a >> No, is actually. >> It's a fact. It's a fact. And no matter what your dog does, I'm letting you know we do not consent to any searches or seizures at all. This is ridiculous. I showed you my driver's license. What else do you want? What is your name and your badge number? >> Oscar 29. >> And the And the person behind you? >> Oscar 29. >> What's your name and badge number, sir? >> My badge number >> Over here. Ask him what his name and badge number is. >> Sir, what's your name and badge number? >> Badge number is Oscar 172. >> Oscar 172. >> What are your name and badge number, please? Name and badge number? >> My name's Gonzalez. Last name Gonzalez. >> No badge number? >> We don't have >> ID? ID? >> I don't have my ID. >> So you just got here, huh? All right. >> Gonzalez. >> You know this is wrong. We are American citizens and we're being harassed. Your dog does not tell if we're American or not. Waiting for a canine is You're violating our our rights as American citizens. >> Hey mister, how's it going? I'm US Border Patrol Agent Michael Suarez. I'm the canine handler for the Border Patrol station here in Boulevard. >> So your dog's going to tell us if we're legal citizens or not? >> No, dogs can't talk. I'm >> Okay, so then what's the deal here? Because we don't have anything illegal. >> to a canine >> consent to any searches or seizures. And I'm letting you know as an American citizen, we do not consent to anything. Okay? You're going to tip off your dog just to get probable cause? It's a It's a gimmick. We all know about that. >> consent. So my dog he's able to detect >> Well, you don't have consent. >> So my dog, he's able to detect >> Okay, and that's not even >> But meth is a disease. >> Check this out. It's not narco So check this out. Hold on. We're not We're state citizens. Yeah, we're in California. Okay, but we're in California and we recognize California rules. We We don't comply with federal agencies, sorry. >> Um So you guys do what you got to do. You you guys we're going to be remain silent. We do not consent to anything. So you know marijuana is not illegal in the state of California. So So whatever your dog says it's false. I'm letting you know now and that's that. So we're done talking. You guys continue with whatever you're going to do to violate our rights. Thank you. We don't consent. Okay, so that's it. I told you that we don't consent. And it's noted on our camera too. Okay, so No, you don't have to tell me anything. You guys do what you guys are going to do what you're going to do at the end of the day no matter what. We already told No, I don't care. We don't consent. We don't consent. We don't consent. We don't consent to any of that. Federal law does not give you any any validation over us. Not in this traffic Not in this stop you got going on here. You're doing a You guys are border patrol. It Too bad. Too damn bad. You're not going to tell us how to live when we have a legal right as California citizens to possess any kind of that stuff. Whether it's CBD whatever it is. It doesn't matter. We have the legal rights. And we will not allow you to come in as Nazi federal government and trample those rights because you think it's okay. Your ideas do not trample every single person's ideas, okay? We have the right to free think. And we're not YouTubers. You just violated two normal people American citizens on the way to the dentist scouting the land. Now we're scared to even travel in our own country. This is crazy. >> Oh, man. >> [laughter] >> So, now you're scratching up our car? No, you're going to give us a check. I guarantee that it's going to be a lot bigger than the scratches. >> Sir, you guys are you smoking marijuana in the car? >> That's none of your business. >> Marijuana my dog positive >> That's none of your business. I don't care. >> That gives us probable cause to search the vehicle. >> So, are you going to tell us to get out under the threat of arrest? >> We have we >> We're not getting out unless you tell us you're going to arrest us. >> So, right now you are being detained >> Okay, so we're not going to comply with anything unless you say right now unless we do so. Okay. Go ahead and do what you got to do. Hurry up. >> All right, so listen. I'm trying to be as patient with you guys >> be as patient as you want. Your breath smells. >> The dog over here that's interesting. The dog alerted on your vehicle. >> I don't care. There's nothing illegal in this vehicle. >> That might be the case with the dog alert. >> I don't I don't listen to dogs. >> We need you to get out of the vehicle so we >> Okay, is it going to be under the threat of arrest? >> If there's contraband yes. >> No, I'm telling you right now if we don't get out are you going to arrest us and break our windows? Yes or no, it's a simple question. Because if you're going to threaten me to if you're going to threaten me and my wife with arrest then we're going to turn off this car, get out and we're going to call the sheriffs. >> Yeah, you can get out if you want to do that. >> No, I don't to. I want you to leave us alone so I can get to the dentist. >> Right. So, in order for you to do that >> Okay, so we're not going to do anything unless you threaten to arrest us. >> that you can consent to anything. >> I'm not consenting or cooperating with you at all. >> that and I'm agreeing >> Okay, well Okay, well, that's that. Okay, well, that's that. Okay, we're not ending the conversation then. >> What? This is an investigative detention. The dog alerted to >> I don't care what your dog alerted to. We don't have anything illegal in the vehicle. >> That might There very well may be a case. >> It is the case. It's a fact. >> But, that doesn't change the fact that you >> We're not going to unless you threaten to arrest us or break our window. >> You're going to You're going to be arrested. >> So, you're threatening to arrest us? >> No, you're going to be arrested if you won't get out of the vehicle. >> That's what I'm saying. Unless we get out, you're going to arrest us. >> Correct. >> Okay, so let's get out. >> Then then it it will continue to be an investigative detention. If we find nothing, you'll go on your vehicle and be on your >> There's nothing for you No, so I'm just making sure that we don't I'm I'm letting you know as our rights as citizens, we do not want to get out. We want to go on the way. But, if you're going to threaten to break our window and arrest us, then I have no option but to turn off my car and get out. So, what's it going to be? >> Yes, you're going to be arrested if >> Okay, so we're getting out and we're going to open the doors and you guys do what you got to do. >> You're welcome. >> Recording and don't stop. Over here, record them. I'll open that for you. I got it right here. Go ahead Go ahead in the back. Open that. Red cooler. Red cooler. Camping gear. >> No, it's not going to be called This is violation of citizen's rights. Okay? Whether you see it or not, it is. It is. Next thing you know, we're going to have checkpoints everywhere. And it's going to go for you guys as well. Okay? ID every single freeway under the guise of safety? For what? Huh? >> You live in what? >> That's none of your business. But for what? To prove a point? Huh? To do an ethnic cleansing? Huh? You're messing with good people. That You're not You're not allowed to touch that. You need to put that back where you found it. >> All right, I'm moving my stuff. So, there's a small amount of what I consider personal >> It's illegal. >> Okay, listen. Can I just explain something to you? >> Just do what you got to do in this weather. >> That's exactly what I'm doing. >> your hands from your pockets, sir. >> Yeah, so there's a small amount of personal use marijuana. I'm not inclined to think that there's anything more than that. My officer's doing the rest of his search. The canine officer, this is for you. Here, I'm going to explain something to you. >> Just do what you got to do. >> Look, normally >> There's not going to be No, this is not going to be the new normal. No, so you can You're not Don't waste your breath. This will never be the new normal. All right? Not for us or for anybody else that we know of. And there's millions of us. >> Okay, do you know that? So, thank you for your speech. I appreciate it. >> It's not a See how you are? You're a son of a Do you know that? >> Normally Normally we could seize this personal use actually write you a ticket. I'm trying to explain something to you. Normally, we could we could seize this. >> it. Conrad. >> could seize seize seize this and we could take your vehicle back to the station and put you guys >> Take it. Take it. It just It just builds our case bigger. >> and put you in the system, write right city ticket, in which case you would get a fine or you'd have to show up in court. However, however, in light of the circumstances, I don't see there being a whole lot of value in me ruining your day like you said you have a general manager >> Oh my goodness, I can't believe that. >> in light of in light of you having a small amount of personal use so long as there's no reason to search this vehicle, >> This is ridiculous. >> I'm going to go ahead and let you off with a warning. What say you complete the task only >> Well, apparently, you know, he owns my stuff now. He's he's uh taking it. >> That's sad. >> This is really sad, guys. >> I I I would agree it is sad. >> Well, you're absolutely right. There's better ways. There's a lot better ways to do this and you guys have failed miserably today. >> Stay right there, please. Don't get back in the vehicle yet, sir. >> Sir, go ahead. >> Okay. Hey. Please have that way, please. >> Are they good? >> Yeah. Yeah. Go back. Good, twice. Twice. >> What's the What's the degrees right now? Temperature? About 90 something? Yeah, it's fine. You got my wife out here. Huh? Good? Real good, guys. Real good. Good job, guys. >> All right, sir. >> I'm not I'm not I never said you can go yet. Listen, I'm not about to give speeches, but I'm going >> Had you just cooperated, I wouldn't have had to >> not going to be the new normal. This will not be the new normal. How's that? And I will make sure we go to the board meetings. Okay? This will be your last dance here. You got that, guys? Can I go now? >> Yes, we are. >> All right. >> Have a nice day. >> You messed with the wrong guy. I don't know. Yep. >> I can't believe that. >> When the agents finally searched the vehicle after claiming a K9 alert, all they found was a small amount of personal use and nothing remotely connected to smuggling. Even with nothing to show for it, the agents still had the nerve to act like they were doing the couple a favor by not pushing things further. The driver was not buying any of it and never let up for a second, calling out every move as an abuse of power and making it clear that as far as he was concerned, this entire stop was nothing more than harassment against ordinary Americans who were simply trying to travel freely.