You can go to jail for allowing him to ride something that's illegal. You knowingly knowing it is a crime in our state. Okay. >> Okay. That is a dirt bike. That is not a Hold on. Mr. >> Fullbright. >> That is not a bicycle or an ebike. That is illegal anywhere in public spaces in our city. >> Okay. >> Do you understand? >> You have informed me. >> Yes. >> Why? Why so aggressive? >> Well, because we're having a lot of problems with these things and it's >> had it for 24 hours. Like just you and I can communicate thoughtfully and set a good example for the young man that's watching us. Okay, >> I hear you. >> Okay, >> we bought this. >> Do you guys have a lock for it? >> I got it in my bag. >> Let's lock it to the sign and you can come in a truck or something else. Pick it up later. >> We live in South Coast. >> I don't care. He's not riding it home. It's a nice day. He's walking. >> Okay. >> Or I can take it and impound it and take you to jail. We can do it the hard way, too. >> I have no problem locking up the bike. I don't understand. I've been in this. Do >> you have any ID with you? >> Yes, I do. >> Let's see it, please. >> You got any student ID with you or anything, bud? >> No. Okay. >> Yeah, you don't need >> This is your dad? Mhm. >> Well, I'm going to get his information. >> That's fine. >> Okay, >> that's fine. >> We're doing a lot of things, man, on social media. We're getting the word out in a lot of different ways. >> Whether you're just dumbfounded and you had no idea and you thought that this was legal. That's why I'm a little bit upset is because I'm upset that a parent's with him and thinking that it's okay. That's why I'm upset. Why would you think this is okay? Just tell me. >> Because we're driving 300 y from our house up to PCC. >> Oh, because it's a short distance. That's why. Okay. So, if I'm driving DUI from my driveway down here and it's like 100 yards, is that Hold on. Is that okay? >> You and I both know we're not having the same problem. >> It's okay until I hit somebody and then it then it's a bad day, right? And then I go to jail and I hurt somebody else and their family. >> We both know the risk factors to that are drastically different. >> But do you get what I'm saying? Do you understand? >> It's a crappy excuse. >> I hear you. >> Crappy excuse. >> Don't be upset, dude. Don't be upset. >> So, here's the deal. If you guys cooperate with me, lock that thing up, come get it later, okay? I'll cut you all a break. I'm going to document your names. If I catch him on this again anywhere in the city, okay? Unless it's your private property or private property somewhere in the city. That's the only exception. >> Okay. >> Okay. Then I'm going to take it and make you guys pay to impound to get it out. >> Okay. >> And then if I can prove you knew about it, you're going to get charged. Fair enough. >> Understood. >> Is there any questions? Hopefully it's clear as mud. It just upsets me that you sounds like you did know in a roundabout way. You're telling me that you do know that it's illegal. That's funny. I have >> glasses. This is the smallest one we could get. We bought this like months ago. The tariffs it was on hold waiting to come from. >> That's all that's all fine. I don't care about it. That's riding those big black ones up and down the street all >> But they're no different. They're no different in some ways. They're different in the fact that they go faster maybe than his, >> but it's still a dirt bike, >> right? It's a dirt bike. Yes or no? >> It doesn't have pedals, >> right? Which means it's a dirt bike. Any officer, any common person that's going to see that, are they going to say that's a bicycle? >> Probably not. >> Correct. So, that that's my concern. Okay. Um before we clear, I want to make sure address any questions, concerns that you aren't understanding what we talked about cuz I want to make sure we understand each other. >> I wish the conversation could have started like this. I I know that's the only part that I I've been friends with the former chief of police here for 20 years. Okay. >> I've worked with half of the law enforcement here in Isqua. There's never been a reason to communicate like this over much more serious issues in my opinion, but clearly you demonstrated that it was a a very hot issue for you. >> It's a hot issue everywhere. I mean, there's kids that are getting hurt on these things. I'm not saying that he's riding reckless, but we take it very very uh serious, if that makes sense. So, and like I said, I'm just making sure that I drive the message home on the importance that these things aren't allowed and we need to make sure and keep them at home regardless if it's a short distance. But regardless, anything from South Cove is not a short distance to some degree because you got to go all the way down that straight road, past the state park, all the way past all these Costco corporations, Motel 6 to get to where you're going. So, I guarantee you this is probably at least a mile out to your house. So, that's that's not like it's a couple blocks. Does that make sense? Four. So, it's it's a little John, but I get what you're saying. You're not going all the way into town. I I get I hear you. But do you understand what I'm saying? That it's still a little ways away. It's still illegal regardless of how short of a distance. >> Yes. It's it's completely different than the bigger bike. It's different than a DUI, but laws are laws, right? And >> and if it's Jeez, at least put some WD40 on that. And you know, if if you know what's wrong, then you know it's wrong. And I want to make sure that you understand the severity of that. And I'm just trying to drive that point home. If it came across a little bit brass, >> it did. It did. >> Then I then I apologize. But I'm just trying to make sure that you guys understand that it is it's a serious issue. It's a safety issue for our community. It's a big issue right now. And so I'm just want to make sure I drive the point home >> and you did. But I think one thing we agree on is we could have both handled this different. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. Absolutely. >> I just think they like >> my experience with Isqua Police over the last couple has been phenomenal. in hotly contested issues around cannabis and other I've worked with the city council everybody for years years and years years. >> Awesome. >> This is the least polite conversation that's been initiated. And I think for an example of >> I didn't want him to know he doesn't need to be afraid of you. >> No. And hopefully hopefully af it doesn't feel good. It doesn't seem necessary. >> I got you. >> And I think there's context for these conversations. >> Sure. >> So I appreciate you hearing me out over the car. I'm definitely hearing you out and but I think like I said, we can both be humble and admit that we could have both handled it better. It's just if you if you kind of knew better, but you think it was a short distance, I'm I I feel bad for you because that's not that's not very good. But you but you were humble and you admitted that sure I could have handled it better. He just got it. We're not going that far. I get all the sides of that. But still, it's like if something's illegal, don't try to teach him the wrong way to do it. >> Right. But you get what I'm saying? you jump right to a DUI. Like the the examples are like I I could also say 31 miles an hour. >> I could have used a lot of different options. Yes. Um it's it's different, but I'm just trying to give you context that if it's illegal, it's illegal, right? So, let's all try to be better if that makes sense. That's all I'm asking. >> I'll give you that. >> All right. Sorry for the brash conversation. Do you understand? Do you have any questions on your side? >> Uh no, I am good. >> Okay. The these things are no doubt cool, man. I mean, I get it. I was a kid. I'm probably glad I didn't have one of those as a kid. I probably would have hurt myself, but just got to ride them in appropriate areas. That's all I ask. Okay. So, if dad's got a lock, you guys get home safe. Um, and uh, you know, you can sit in the shade. If dad doesn't want to make you walk home, you can come get you with a truck or something, but >> we're just going to have my wife come down and get us. >> Awesome. So, there's an option. I don't want to necessarily I know it's hot. I don't want to leave you guys stranded, but if there's an option, I prefer you doing that versus ride that all the way home. Any other questions you guys have? All right, guys. Be safe. Thank you. The man stopped in this police encounter is Jake George, a local family man and small business owner from Isiqua, Washington. Jake was simply spending time with his son riding together through their neighborhood on ebikes when Isaka police officer Matt Fulbright noticed Jake's son riding an illegal electric dirt bike. According to Isiqua police, the city has seen a major increase in electric dirt bikes being used improperly, ridden across parks, fields, sidewalks, and public roadways. Police say some riders have damaged property, ignored traffic laws, or even fled from officers when attempts were made to stop them. Law enforcement has made it clear this isn't just annoying, it's dangerous and illegal. Police have warned that electric dirt bikes used illegally can be impounded and parents could even face criminal charges for allowing their children to ride them on public roadways. These bikes are often mistaken for ebikes, but they are not the same thing. Electric dirt bikes have no pedals. They are controlled entirely by a throttle and can reach speeds of up to 55 mph. Because of that, they are not street legal. The only place these bikes are allowed is in designated dirt bike areas. Officer Fulbright has spoken publicly about electric bikes during a podcast. Here is what he had to say. >> A hot topic right now around Isiqua is electric bikes. >> Specifically, electric dirt bikes. Do you want to explain the difference? >> Sure. Yeah. So, it's funny you mentioned that because I think everybody just I think calls them ebikes, but they don't understand that technically, yes, there are electric bicycles, right? And it's easier just to say, "Oh, it's an ebike. It's an ebike." But there are some huge differentiating issues between, you know, a electric bicycle with pedals on it that you can move versus a electric dirt bike, right, that can get up to speeds of 50 mph. Ultimately, Jake and his son were cited for a civil infraction, essentially a ticket. No arrest was made, but that's not what has people talking. What sparked widespread reaction online was officer Fulbright's demeanor during the stop. Comments have flooded social media with statements like, "This is why people hate cops." And why is the citizen the one deescalating the situation? And that rises a bigger question. This case isn't just about electric dirt bikes. It's about police deescalation. Here's what Jake George had to say about the encounter afterwards. >> Well, I'm the dad that's in that video and I think it's time we have an update on what's going on with this little ebike here. Chief of police did call and she apologized, which is great. She didn't exactly agree with all of the things we discussed, but she did apologize and acknowledge that the way her officer treated us was really crappy. So, some areas where there's no question here is that it's not a crime. You can't take a person to jail. You can't impound the bike. It's just not a crime. It's a civil infraction. If this is deemed an off-road vehicle, well, then it's supposed to be off the road. But if it's on the road, it's still a civil infraction, which really means they can write you a ticket, and that really should have been the end of it. But I don't want to make this about Officer Fulbright. And I certainly don't want to make like maybe what might be one of the worst days in his professional career a representation of who he is as a person. I'm interested in asking the city and the mayor and the city council, the chief of police to all get involved and clarify what the rules actually are. I want to know what the policy is. So, we will start working with the city council and try to establish an ordinance that provides some clarity for parents. If it turns out we can't ride this on the street, okay, I can live with that. I'm not calling for people's jobs. I don't want to go fogg Isiqua PD's uh feed right now. I I don't think that's going to be helpful for us. But I do think it's perfectly reasonable that we ask for a sensible update and figure out what the hell's going on in this little town. >> Now, the real question is, was Officer Fulbright enforcing the law appropriately given the circumstances or did the situation escalate unnecessarily? Drop your thoughts in the comments below. >> Please like and subscribe for more videos. >> [music] >> 29 current 2000 Honda.