Law, >> I don't know your intentions, >> but my intentions are just to film your nice building. >> No, sir. Why would you need to see my ID? >> Did you know there's a no parking service there? >> What's that mean? >> The sign above you? >> Yeah. >> Your car park here. >> Police demanded identification without any valid reason, forcing a citizen to back down. But those very actions ended up opening the door to much bigger trouble. I >> asked her, "Could I have a card, a business card?" Okay. >> And she said, "Well, hang on. I got to talk to my manager." I'm like, "Why would you have to do that? All I want is a business card." You know what I mean? So, >> when police choose control over following the law, the consequences don't end with a single confrontation. From a place that seemed completely ordinary, the atmosphere suddenly turned strange. A simple request was made, but the response was anything but normal. >> How you guys doing today? >> All right. >> There's a shield. [sighs] >> It went yesterday cuz I went got Well, Monday, Tuesday. There >> some stuff on the bulletin board here. I'm trying to tell you now. Tuesday morning I went down ice and I just went and reports will be $22 fee cash check only. No ma'am. I'm just filming. That's it. Thank you, though. She was very nice and polite. Asked me if I needed any help. And of course, I don't need any. I'm just uh doing a little filming. Looks like she's back there telling on us right now. Once again, I'm here in Alabama. There's employee of the month right there. Bam. employee of the month. Yeah. Um, looks like she went back there a tad long, but I may get a card. Ma'am, can I have a card like with the number and stuff on it? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, now she's going back there to I guess she don't know that she can give a cards. I mean, wow. It's a little weird, but oh well. Are you from Are you from >> Does it really matter? >> Really? The public can't come in here and film. It's a public building, right? I didn't say I wasn't from here. I'm just I'm just stating the fact that it shouldn't matter if I'm from here or not. >> I don't need to speak with anybody. I just want a card. We we're I mean ain't much to film in here. So >> what seemed like mere confusion was only the beginning. From wary glances and evasive answers, the situation quickly escalated. Just minutes later, it was no longer about suspicion, but about direct questions of authority, power, and the boundaries of the law. >> No, no, man. We just out here doing a little filming, bro. I just I just asked for a card. You got some ID on? >> Yeah, I got my ID. >> No, sir. >> You suspect you suspect me of a crime, sir? >> Do you suspect me of a crime? Have I committed a crime, sir? [clears throat] Sir, have I committed a crime? >> Are you the supervisor? What's your name, sir? >> It don't matter what my name is. What's What's that got to do with anything really? >> What's What's your What's your business? >> We just filming your nice building, man. We not here to hurt nobody. Got no ill intent. >> Check with the chief. >> Why would I have to ask the chiefs to come in my building? >> Step outside. >> Step outside. >> Step outside the building. >> For what reason? Just cuz I got a camera. >> I don't know your intention. >> I don't have no intention. I'm just filming. I feel I filmed that. >> I filmed that. >> This is a public public area. your attention. >> But I'm filming, sir. That's all I'm doing, man. >> I'm asking you to step outside the building. >> Is that Is that a lawful order? >> I don't know your intentions. >> But my intentions are just to film your nice building. >> No, sir. Why would you need to see my ID? >> What can I do for you, gentlemen? >> Nothing. We just went filming. I like plaque up there. We just >> just filming. [music] That's it. and I just [clears throat] >> I was waiting for her to come back with a card to ask her, "Could I have a card?" A business card. >> Okay. >> And she said, "Well, hang on. I got to talk to my manager." >> I'm like, "Why would you have to do that? All I want is a business card." You know what I mean? So, >> okay. What's um Can What's the purpose on this? >> Just documenting. Just I mean, we're just tours. We're just out here filming. That's all we doing. >> Okay. >> Yeah. We don't mean no harm. Got no ill intent. >> I know, but I hadn't committed any crime, sir. 15-530. I mean, >> at this time, >> are you a supervisor? >> Yes, sir. I am. >> And I mean, is this a lawful order here? Because I don't think it is. >> Okay. >> This is a protected activity. Constitutionally protected activity. >> That's fine, but we don't know your intentions at this time. I'm asking. >> With no clear accusation, the tension only intensified. Questions were asked, but the answers became increasingly evasive. And then came the decisive moment when it was no longer a verbal exchange but an order. >> Trying to figure out exactly what's going on and why exactly you're wanting to film here. What's your exact purpose? >> It's because we are tourists. I had never been here before. Yes. Tourist. >> Okay. >> I'm just filming you building. That's all. I had no intentions of doing any harm to anybody. >> It don't really matter where I'm from. >> Are you not giving them any >> Why would I have to do that though? I hadn't committed any crime though. Do you expect me of committing a crime? >> Do y'all expect me of committing a crime? Really? But holding a camera, that's that's not a that's not a crime. >> Easy, sir. >> But photography is not a crime, though, guys. >> You got any idea on you, sir? >> I do. >> Hey, can we see it, sir? >> No, sir. >> Okay. >> Cuz I hadn't committed a crime, sir. >> Right. Okay. >> Cuz I mean, y'all got to know. Y'all got to think I committed a crime. We're in process of crime. Y'all know that. >> I'm well on my rights here. Right now we don't have the attention. We need to step by step. >> But how many times? Listen to me real quick. >> You're right. You can be on everything else. We can't control that. But we can control where you do these things. >> That's fine. We're in the lobby. I just walked in to get a card. That's it. >> Again, this is a public building, >> right? >> People come in trying to get calls. >> That That's fine. We We was fixing to walk out >> and that is interfering with again their service. Am I right? >> I understand that. We was about to walk. All I was waiting for is a car, sir. That was it. >> Card. Just a business card. That's it. >> Okay. I don't believe any of them have business cards. Okay. >> They know for the for the office. They don't have business cards. Do you have a business card, sir? >> I don't. >> Y'all don't carry business cards? >> No, sir. We don't. >> Can I get you guys' name and badge numbers, please? For the Just for the record. >> Can we get your name for the record? >> Well, I'm not I'm not a city employee. Y'all are. Okay. I mean, what record are you doing? >> Just the documenting the police department. That's it, dude. >> Like I said, we can't regulate where you do these activities. We're not going to prevent you. If you want to step by side and continue filming, by all means, go right ahead. >> Okay. We was about to walk out anyway. >> Go ahead and walk out then, sir. >> Go ahead. You creating a situation. >> I I understand. Can I get your badge number, please? >> I'm sorry to see number 140. Go ahead and step outside yours, please. >> Come around here. >> I can't get yours. Yours either. >> That's y'all's policy to identify. >> Go and step outside, sir. We explain it to you. >> We're We're stepping outside, sir. >> But this is a illegal protected activity. Photography is not a crime, though. But you're interfering with a governmental operation. >> What operation was that? Somebody sitting in the lobby. >> People trying, [music] >> sir. They're trying to get their lobby calls answered by sitting in the lobby. [clears throat] >> At this point, every boundary began to be tested. When a lawful activity is treated as a problem and civil rights are called into question, what happens next? The answer comes quickly and it's anything but gentle. >> Wanted to give me an unlawful order, sir. >> Sir, I'm talking to him. >> It wasn't unlawful. Yes, it was >> the sergeant here. That's all you >> I understand that, but it was still unlawful. However you say it, >> cuz y'all trying to squash on our rights. That's why >> on what exactly? >> You don't really have to close that. >> I should be able to file one without fear of retribution. >> No, you're trying to you're trying to make a complaint. Yes. >> On y'all, >> whoever. >> I mean, this is crazy. This is crazy right here. We tourists. >> We're tourists. We can't even We can't even walk and stay in the public building. Y'all see this right here? Alabama. This is what Alabama does for tourist. Tourists. This right here is what Alabama does. I hope y'all don't do the all the tourists like this, guys, cuz this ain't a good look for y'all. We're just tourists, man. That's crazy. Well, anyway, y'all see that? Um, we was done anyway, but they had to come out like [ __ ] tyrants and tell us they didn't want us recording. So, this is what you do. This is what you get in Alabama, guys. We get uh pushed out the door. We was finished any freaking way. said, "I I just don't get the whole problem. If they got people in there where they don't want them to be filmed, then put take them in a [ __ ] private room, you know? That's crazy." And then asked for our ID. They thought we didn't know our rights, but I'm well verssed on my rights. I don't know all of them, but I know the main ones. But I know the ones I'm supposed to know. How about that? For all you trolls out there, um I'm not a lawyer. No. All right. All right. Let's see if they stop us from filming the cars back here, cuz that's where we're going next. >> The situation ends in frustration, but the questions remain. When a public building no longer welcomes citizens and a camera becomes an excuse for pressure, where is the line between law enforcement and abuse of power? Under section 1,983, citizens can sue police officers when their constitutional rights are violated. Officers who break the law may be held financially liable and face discipline or termination. Up next, what seemed like a routine act of oversight suddenly drew all eyes to one person within seconds. And from that moment, a bigger question emerged. Who is really being watched? Heat. Heat. They're illegally parked. Don't get inside. working today. >> How you doing? >> Pretty good. How are you? >> Good. I had a question. >> Are the police vehicles exempt even when they're just sitting having coffee from a parking ticket? >> Well, all that I have 15 minute signs. >> Yeah. >> So, you pull up and it's 15 minutes. >> Yeah. But the cops are sitting at the table at that uh >> I don't know where the cops are. >> I see them. They're at uh the fountain place. >> Time them for 15 minutes and then come back. >> Well, they've been sitting having coffee the whole time. >> Yeah, but I just walked by so and I have to put it in my computer. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, would they would they get a ticket though? >> The police. >> The initial questions seemed meant only to clarify the rules, but the more they were discussed, the blurrier the boundaries became. When the law is no longer applied equally, discomfort begins to surface. And just seconds later, the story takes a completely different turn. >> I mean, I'm out here today and I'm giving warning tickets. >> Okay. >> Because like of the pandemic, we just came back. >> Yeah. >> So, they would get the warning. >> Yeah. So, you guys are doing a census of the parking before, right? When the pandemic was happening. >> No. >> No. cuz one of the parking uh attendants, whatever you guys officers said you guys are counting the cars for the census of parking. >> I I have nothing to do with that. >> Oh, okay. >> I just saw the cops are there and I just figured I'd ask you. This is a public interest. >> Yeah. So, yeah. So, there's so many gray areas right now. >> Yeah. >> Because of the pandemic, >> everything that's going on, >> you know, like I walk up, I didn't know what to do with these 15-minute signs at first, >> but then I'm told they can park free. >> Yeah. and then time them. >> It's so confusing. >> And if they're there more than the 15 minutes, I give them a warning and then like if I do it again another day, I just have to >> then you have to kind of remember if that car you gave a warning to or something. Is that it's so confusing. >> It it's it's just everything's different now because >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, >> I'm trying to do the best I can. >> Exactly. And that's one reason why I'm out here cuz I want to I want to ask you guys questions so we know these answers. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. I've had a couple rough days out here. People have been very mean. >> I'm sure. I'm a lot of people been stuck in the house for so long. >> The anxiety level, >> everything. Depression, everything's so up and it's just it's causing a lot of >> right now. >> Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Why? >> Uh cuz that's what I do. >> I film people public uh officials. >> My name's Don. What's your >> Thank you. I'm Tom. >> Nice to meet Nice to meet you. I I usually film the police and everything and I just noticed them, then I noticed you, so I figured I'd come and ask you the question. It It's more I'm just uh basically independent journalist. I do the whole Northshore, Massachusetts. I've been down to Connecticut. Don't put it on. >> At this point, the exchange was no longer a simple question and answer. The purpose had been made clear. Yet, the discomfort kept growing and the tone began to change. Then, in the blink of an eye, a public oversight turned into an unwanted confrontation. Buddy, >> how you doing? >> Good. >> What's going on today? >> Not much. >> Just policing the police. >> What are you doing? >> Policing the police. >> Yeah. Yeah. Hang on. >> Policing the police. >> Oh, >> watching the watchers. >> Watching the watchers? >> Yeah. >> What's that mean? >> It means you guys watch us, I watch you guys. Who's this? >> Police. Can I get your name in? Bad number. >> Jason Belzerini. >> Badge number >> 225. Who are you? >> Thanks, man. Uh, I don't answer questions. >> Oh, >> did you know there's a no parking service zone there? >> What's that mean? >> The sign above you. >> Yeah. >> Your car parked here. >> You want to want to back that up just a little bit? >> What? >> Making me nervous. >> You walked up to me, sir. Shouldn't you have a mask on if you're going to walk up to public? >> Where's your mask? >> I don't need one. I didn't walk up to you 6 feet. Give me 6 ft, sir. >> You're endangering my safety right now. >> I am. >> Yeah. >> How's that? >> Because you don't have a mask on and you approach me within 6 ft. >> Are you guys above the law? Why can you guys park in spots? We can't. >> I tell you, I'll hold my mask on. >> There you go. >> So, you and I want to have a conversation. >> No, I don't want to have a conversation with you. >> You got my attention. >> It's fine. This is non-consensual anymore. So, if you're going to keep bothering me, it's going to be harassment. What's >> that mean? >> I thought we were just having a talk. You >> No, I don't. I don't want to have a conversation with you anymore. >> Why is that? >> This is non-conensual, sir. >> I think I know you. You look familiar. >> You should know me. >> Do I know you from somewhere? >> You should know me. >> Where do I know you from? >> You should know me. >> From school or something or do you play ball? Like, where do I know you from? What's up, Sakad? >> How you doing? So, >> we we don't know each other. You just look familiar. You play ball. >> I already told this officer I don't want to talk to him anymore, but here he stands here continuing to try to talk to me. This is what we deal with with the public. They bother us when we don't want them to come up and talk to us. You are bothering me, sir. >> Okay. I'm sorry to bother. >> Have a good day, sir. All right, man. Let me know if you need anything. Let me know if you need to learn some more laws. >> Huh? >> Let me know if you need to learn some more laws. >> Always learn it. >> Yeah, I'm sure you are. >> Once communication had been refused, everything should have stopped. But it didn't. The silence became an excuse for the pressure to keep building. And at that moment, a new figure appeared, shifting the situation in a way no one expected. the signs of that cuz of me. We got a new one under recover car or is that just a uh that just a personal car? Somebody that's over here. He knows we're right since he has a company vehicle. Just get in your car and go. So, it looks like the chief is here. Supervisor today is here out in the field. 24, that's uh the officer I was just dealing with. Let me check his name wrong. It was officer Bzerini, car 24. So, he's back here at the station. This guy's still looking at me through his side view mirror. not parked illegally. It's good. Play covers. The situation comes to an end, but the aftermath lingers. When asking questions is treated as a problem and the presence of a camera becomes an excuse for tension, the bigger question remains. Who is truly following the law? Every action that crosses the line leaves long lasting [music] consequences, not only for the individuals involved, but for the entire law enforcement system. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much.