Solicit a trespass. Is that what you're doing? >> That's illegal. >> You're going to solicit a trespass. >> That is soliciting a trespass. You get that, right? Do we look uneducated? You're going to sleep well tonight, right? That's because you don't give a flying [ __ ] That's why. >> Just one camera outside Amazon pulled both the company and police into a tense situation. But the harder they tried to control it, the more they exposed a troubling question. Who was really crossing the line? >> It's officer. >> Okay. >> Okay. And just for your tape, Inspector Barry Reid, >> you're an inspector, are you? Police. Get your hand off me. Get off me now. >> You're not going to record any more indexes. >> When a citizen who knew the law refused to bow to pressure, the inspector began revealing the most dangerous truth. Authority becomes a threat when it is no longer backed by a legal basis. The moment a camera turned on, the entire Amazon area immediately became unsettled. But what made everything more tense was not what they were filming. It was the strange reaction from those trying to stop it. >> Help me with where y'all where y'all feeling over here? >> Uh yeah, I didn't get no lunch. Can you help me out? >> Yeah. I mean, how you where y'all? Y'all need some or something? >> I No, I need some lunch. You asked me if you could help. I mean, that's a serious person for me. >> I can't hear you. I can't hear nothing you say. >> You need help with anything? Need help with something? >> If you can get me some lunch, that'd be great. >> I can't I can't hear you. >> Come on. >> No, I didn't I didn't ask for no help. I don't even know what she's talking about over there. I can't hear nothing she's saying either. >> Why not? I got his nice camera. He's got one. >> I got this for Christmas. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We figured we'd use them. You know what I mean? Did you film over here? >> Yeah, we filming over there. >> Is it okay if we film here? >> No, you shouldn't. You should film over here. >> I asked her earlier. She did say, "No, you should film over here." >> I did. >> We can't hear you over there. We can't hear nothing you saying over there. You're too far away. We can't hear you. >> Well, then shut the up then. >> Say ain't no question. So, we just talking. >> You know what you can do? You can eat that. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> You can't film me here. >> I can't film you. Then when you send them here in the car. >> Oh well now what we do though? We already done it. >> Okay. Stop doing it. Stop. >> So we But I don't want to stop. >> Before the frustration behind those calls could even settle, an employee stepped out and turned the camera into the center of the confrontation. What started as a seemingly simple question began shifting into a tense struggle over the line between the right to record and the desire to control it. >> I got you. >> All right, George. >> What's your name? >> I'm not going to tell you all that, dude. Come on. What's your name, sir? >> Quinton Jane. >> Quint. >> There you go. Ask me again, I tell you to say, right? >> No, we just don't want to say because you might try to get us in trouble. I ain't even come ask you how you feel, probably. >> But we don't have to tell you though. We we we grown men. We don't have to say nothing. You know what I mean? Anybody can fault. We ask you whatever. >> Whatever. >> So, you don't secure out here, right? I mean, you secure over there, correct? Yeah, this part of their property. >> What? >> You fought this part of their property >> right here. >> We on y'all's property. >> Yeah. To the side. >> What? >> Are you serious? I didn't know that. Damn. Now we're going to be in trouble. Come here. >> I can't hear you. >> You told me come ask you a simple question. >> Yeah. Well, are you are you satisfied? >> You satisfied? Damn. >> If they don't want us to Okay, I should. >> Yeah. I mean, whatever y'all got to do, man. Look here. Look, we got an audience up here. There's the two snitches. There's the snitches. There's the snitches. >> What's going on? >> Can't hear you, ma'am. You You got to You got to get a little closer. >> What's going on here? >> Uh, we got these nice cameras for Christmas. We figured we'd go out there and start recording. I need your name and uh badge number. >> I can't hear you. Why is that? >> Ain't you supposed to tell a citizen when they ask for it? Ain't that your policy? It's not in your policy. >> Okay. So, >> are you are you are you afraid to give it to me? >> No, I don't care about doing that. But I mean, that was just the like one of the first things you said to me. I don't care about giving you. >> Okay. >> Um but no, I was just going to let you know. >> So, can I get your name? >> Give it to you. I just wanted to let you know why we were here first. As the confrontation with Amazon was heating up, another force suddenly stepped in and completely changed the direction of the situation. But this time, the question was no longer who was filming. It was what law police would rely on to get involved. >> It looked suspicious for you to show up like this. >> We were called here. So that's why I was trying to explain. >> Well, of course she was. >> Why we were here? >> Yeah. Yeah. Might be a very simple. >> But ma'am, do you think we're that stupid where we don't know why you're here? >> Really? I still was going to say what I had to say. >> No. No. Do you think we're I mean, do I look like I'm un uneducated because I'm out here with a camera? >> I never said that. >> What? >> I never said that. >> Okay, then we we should know why you're here, right? >> Okay. And your glasses keep fogging up. That's bothering you, ain't it? That's crazy. >> Definition of right. >> Anyway, can I get your name and badge number 646 down? So, >> yeah. Yeah. If you got a card, that'd be great, too. I support them 100%. >> I I I support good police. >> Sounds good. >> Not bad, please. Um, what did you just say? >> Don't go on their property. >> Well, um, do have we been on their property? >> Not sure. >> Okay. So, shouldn't you find out that? Should Did you talk to these guys? >> I'm just advising you. >> Yeah. Well, well, I already know. I already know not to trespass. >> I don't know your number. >> You know what I'm saying? So, do I look like I don't know what I'm doing? I'll ask you the same question I asked her. >> I don't offer my opinion, sir. >> You You don't have one? >> I don't offer my opinion. >> Oh, you don't offer it? Well, I asked it, so it's really not Anyway, they want to come down here and just have trespass on their property. >> Have us trespass from what property? >> Their property. >> How we going to be trespassed? We ain't even been on their property. >> You can be trespassed if you're not on their property. >> Doubt it. >> Doubt it. You You can verbally trespass me all day long. I don't care about that. >> Correct. That That's what it'll be. We We're not accusing you of having trespassed on their property. We're just going to take care of if you go on their property. >> Well, why would we want to go on their property, though? Really? >> I don't know. >> If I hadn't been on it already, why what makes you think I would want to go on it after y'all leave? >> Get that taken care of while we're out here. >> So, you're going to you you're going to solicit a trespass. Is that what you're doing? >> That's illegal. >> You're going to solicit a trespass. I'm going to have >> that is soliciting a trespass. >> When police still could not point to any law being broken, the story suddenly shifted into more dangerous territory. Trespassing. And at that moment, one wrong suggestion could turn law enforcement authority into a tool of pressure. >> No, because you're full of [ __ ] That's why. Cuz you can't solicit a trespass. >> Well, you can talk to him all day long. I don't give a bud. >> Where where I get where I get pissed off and where I don't want to hear nothing y'all got to say is when you try to do stupid [ __ ] >> Okay. >> Like so let's trespass. >> Really? And you feel good about that? I do. >> You're going to sleep well tonight, right? That's because you don't give a flying [ __ ] That's why >> you don't care. >> You don't care about the citizen. Cuz if you did, you'd you'd be like, "Well, I'm sure you hadn't been on their property. We going to talk to these people and let them know that you got a legal right to stand out here on public property all day long. >> Well, I'm not even sure how much >> then you should have investigated. You should have done some research. We already know where the property lines are at. >> Preliminary research. >> We already know where the property lines are at. >> Did you get copies of this? >> Yeah, I know. So, cuz he don't care. >> Come here for me. >> You Your job is to solicit trespass illegally. >> My job is to come out and enforce the law. >> Your job is to force the law. Exactly. We hadn't broken any laws. So, how you going to put a trespass on us then? >> Huh? Think about that. Think about that. >> Shouldn't this off shouldn't that officer right there was that your vehicle in the back or hers? >> Was that yours or hers? >> Yes. >> You should have the lights on. >> That's right. They're trying to solicit trespass. >> That's what they're trying to do. >> In the end, the camera remained in place while the threats of trespassing never turned into a real charge. No arrest, no crime, only the question that left those who called police in silence. Who was [music] really crossing the line? Next, a camera had just appeared outside the police department, and the normal atmosphere immediately changed. Within the first few questions, a tense confrontation began unfolding where a citizen's right to record was being put to the test. >> We're leaving. >> Hello. Are you recording um vehicle indexes? Are you? >> Yeah. Yeah, I am. Yeah. >> What? For police? >> Excuse me? >> For all police officers coming in to work. >> Uh if they happen to be on camera then? Yeah. >> Okay. >> Well, is there an issue with that? Who are you, by the way? >> Sorry. >> Who are you? >> I'm a police officer. >> Okay. >> Okay. And just for your tape, Inspector Barry Reed. >> You're an inspector, are you? Yeah. Interesting. >> And I I do think it's a little bit >> You're wearing a lot of aftershave, by the way. >> Thanks very much. >> Does it smells all right? But yeah. >> Okay. If you're here to wind me up, it's not going to work, fella. Okay. I'm >> Are you getting wound up? Are you >> No, no, no. I'm just asking you, why are you recording indexes of police officers coming in to work? >> Uh, I'm not I don't have a, you know, vested interest in any police indexes. I just happen to be filming. If they're filmed, then they're filmed. >> Okay. >> You know, if you were that concerned about it, you should perhaps consider taking the bus to work or like public transport, something like that. >> Were you laughing? I'm being serious. >> Oh, yeah. I'm being dead serious. >> Okay, >> that's right, fell. I'll just send somebody out in a second. >> All right, let me just get the red right quick. >> Can you stop recording my index? >> Why? >> Because that's a security risk, isn't it? >> Why is it? >> Because if you put that on social media, >> why is it a security risk? >> That is a security risk to me and my family. >> How is it? >> How >> How is it >> posting? It's in public, mate. >> Sorry. It's in public. >> No, no, no. This is a police station, fellow. >> This is a police station. You are on police property. >> Okay. >> This is public property. There's no no. You don't touch me. You don't touch me. No. I'm not coming nowhere. >> Don't even think about touching me again. You know, >> don't even think about touching me again. This is public place. I can film. There's no >> what seemed like a normal conversation changed instantly when the inspector appeared. And when the questions did not get the answers he wanted, his attitude began to shift and the limits of authority started being stretched. >> Can you identify yourself, please? >> Yeah. >> And let me know before you start recording me. Thanks. >> Yeah, I was just going to let you know. Actually, I'm just putting my keys on my languard. All right. So, I'm just recording for my protection and for yours. All right. >> Yeah. Likewise. Would you mind identifying yourself, please? >> Yeah. My name's PC Venton. my call number 0345. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. >> Can you explain to the inspector that it's not a crime to film any uh registration plates from a public place? >> You're not on a public. >> You may have a problem with it, but like you know, I know your feelings are getting hurt or whatever, but my right, you know, your feelings don't trump my rights, so I can you walked across the car park. >> Yeah. >> In a second. So, have you been recording in that car park? >> I haven't had a focused interest on um number plates. But if I want to, I can walk around here and record it. >> Yeah, of course I can. >> No, you can. That's a private place. This is a private place. This this part is a public place. >> This is all paid for by the taxpayer. So what? This is leased. You have an occupational lease for this police station >> and you're doing a service for the public. So therefore the public can access all of this. >> Okay. What do you intend to do with these with >> whatever I want to do with it >> the videos? >> I don't have to tell you. >> You don't. >> No. >> Okay. So if you intend to post those on social media and ex and explicitly say that they are police officers indexes which poses a risk to police officers and their families. Okay, that is a risk through terrorism. Why? Why would people >> and therefore the terrorism act offenses could come into play? >> Okay, we're going down that route, are we? >> No, no, no. Because I'm telling you that is the risk to police officers. >> So do you think you're a valuable target for a terrorist? >> Well, we know we are. >> Oh, how do you know that? How can you risk height and risk based on what data? What facts? What I'm asking you is what you >> don't ask me anything. You don't need to ask me anything. Stop talking about terrorists and that's not good. Like look like how can you even fabricate that? >> Why are you here recording indexes? >> Because I want to I don't need to have a reason. I'm not recording any indexes. You just happen to be driving past >> from this car park. >> Yeah. Because I'm proving a point. >> As I came in and then you started to record my car as I went through the barrier. >> Okay. Have you been in this car park which is doesn't matter if I have or haven't. If I if I want to, I can. Police officers in the matter. >> I'm not answering. I'm not answering. >> Let's keep a bit of distance. I don't know what you're going to do. You seem a little bit hostile. You seem dangerous. You got that you got that weird look in your eyes. Yeah. Yeah. >> That's because, fella, I've been doing this for 29 years. Okay. >> And do you do you reasonably suspect that I'm doing here? >> You tried to provoke me and provoke me. >> It looks like it worked. >> No, not at all. >> Well, you seem pretty pretty upset. >> I'm trying to ask you why you are here. Well, >> I haven't been trying to provoke you, by the way. But just know I can film any registration that I like. >> So what was the reason for for bringing him out here? Like >> I was pulling in. >> But the tension did not stop with the inspector's strange attitude. When the order to leave was refused, he began pushing his authority beyond its limits, turning a camera on a public road into an excuse for a much heavier accusation. >> Matter anyway. Well, I'm not moving. >> A private place. >> Well, I'm not moving. >> What were you doing in the car park at the police station? >> Doesn't matter what I was doing. I can be in any car park I want. >> You can't? >> Yes, it's publicly accessible. nicely to move on, please. >> Is that a request? >> Yes, it is. >> Okay. Well, I'm going to politely decline your request >> and I'm going to continue filming. >> Are you? >> But rest assured, I mean, if I wanted to, I could. But I don't have again a vested interest in anyone's private registration. >> So, I do want to allay your suspicions, but at the same time, your kind of suspicions and emotions doesn't trump my right to film from public. Do you understand that? >> But you're recording specifically police officers. >> Yeah. And you're saying because this a terrorism risk, which I just don't I simply don't agree with that. >> There's risks to police officers, but it's what you won't intend to do with that. >> Regardless of what I do, I don't believe that this is putting you at risk. And if you're so, you know, um at risk of terrorism and stuff, then it might be a good idea to consider public transport and stuff like that. >> Okay. Why are you smirking when you said that? Because this is your antagonistic approach. You're trying to keep calm, but you can't keep the smirk behind it, can you? So therefore, you are here to try and wind up here to wind you up >> and prevention. That's what you're trying to do. >> All right. So why are you bringing up why you bringing up terrorism then? >> Why? Because if you post indexes of police officers, it's not a terrorism. No, cuz you just >> on social media there is a risk of internal and external terrorism. >> Cuz you you're so serious. Like >> I am serious. >> You're making me feel uncomfortable though. >> Because I've had threats in this organization >> or from terrorists? >> No. From organized crime groups. Okay. So it's not just >> Sorry. Like who? >> I could explain that. >> Well, then I would really expect you to be able to explain it if it happened. >> So, we have had threats. We receive threats as police officers daily whilst we're doing our business. >> Maybe you do out and about here. You are here recording indexes. >> Okay. Let me ask you a question politely. Why do what do you intend to do with this recording? >> It doesn't matter what I intend to do. My question to you would be, have there been any prior cases where criminals have filmed police registrations and police coming in and out of a police station? When the heavy accusations still failed to make the man back down, the inspector pushed the situation toward an even more dangerous line. What began as a dispute over a camera was now turning into a real test of authority, legal basis, and the consequences behind every action. >> And ever since then, you've been antagonistic. You've been smirking behind your camera trying to provoke a real >> No, because you you you're funny. You're you you make me you make me laugh cuz you're so serious. >> I I am serious because I >> Your body language is making me laugh. That's all it is. I mean, listen, if you're provoked, I mean, you're an inspector. I feel like you should have a higher threshold for for being provoked. Like, come on. Why are you getting provoked so easily? I'm here exercising my right to film in a public place. And you're saying that's provocative. >> And I'm telling you, you're not in a public place. You're on police. >> I'm certainly in this place becomes a public place under the criminal justice >> legislation. Okay. And therefore, there are other acts that can come into play like causing the disturbance on police premises. Okay. >> What? What legislation is that? >> Causing a disturbance on police premises? I haven't heard of that one before. >> It is. >> All right. >> Look it up, dude. All right. >> What? Well, why don't you tell me what it is, dude? >> So, you're now laughing. You're trying to provoke me. You're You know, I'm trying to be polite to you. And to be honest, I'm going to ask you if you can leave, please. >> All right. >> Okay. Because actually, if you if you continue to film indexes of cars in here, then we may look to other offenses >> and we may look at why you are here and what you are doing. >> And use what offense? Use what legislation to find out? New section 44 of the terrorism act. [laughter] >> I will remove section 44 of the terrorism act section 44 of the terrorism act if necessary because it's odd. It's not right behavior and you are trying to provoke us and you know you are >> section 44 of the terrorism act. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Sure about that? All right. I would love to see you use that act. >> Okay. >> Just make sure it exists before you use it. >> Okay. I'm going to ask you if you can just leave >> and I'm going to I'm going to politely decline. No, no, no. You are No, no. You don't touch me. I'm going to ask you to move. Don't touch police. Get your hand off me. Get off me now. >> You're not going to record any more indexes. Okay. >> I am going to record. >> Now you are here. >> This is a public place. This side is not. I'm going to ask you to stop. >> No. No. No. >> No. You don't do that. You know, you don't. You just put hands on me. That's an assault. I'm going to go film your reg. >> Everything seemed to have reached its stopping point. But the camera was not done playing its role because what remained after this confrontation could force someone to look back at every action they took. >> Stained literally a black eye and two punches to the head purely because I was a police officer and no other reason. >> Were you identified through your car? >> I wasn't identified through my vehicle. No. But the problem is is that [snorts] my vehicle would identify. >> The thing is though like you're like your concerns are not going to trump my rights. I'm not here making a like you know a sophisticated effort to make sure I film every single reg and do that. >> But you just did. You said you were going to film this >> because I'm being petty cuz I don't like the way he's he's acted and confronted me. >> Yeah. Okay. But but what we're trying to understand is we're trying to make you understand the risk. >> And he looks like he can handle himself as well. He had no problem putting hands on me. Listen, I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to stay here. I'm going to film. I'm Listen, I'm not if I want to film the reges, I can. But >> but you need >> I don't want to be irresponsible and film them if Yeah, that's fine. And believe me, I mean, I wasn't telling him cuz he upset me, but I wasn't filming anyone's reges. I wasn't in the car park. I was filming the back gate. I was just leaving >> and that that's the situation with that. Obviously, I wasn't going to offer him the kind of courtesy of an explanation cuz I wasn't happy with how he dealt with the situation. But really and truly, my friend, that's what's going on. That's the situation. I'm not interested in anyone's registration. But again, hypothetically, if I so happened it so happens to be, I can film them. Yeah, you could. But obviously, as the inspectors explained to you, if they if those video that video was to make it online, if risk were to be identified on that video, even if it wasn't anything to do with you, but you posted it on Facebook, say, and someone that you were friends with, friends with someone else, it went all the way around the world. Do you get what I mean? That's under the internet. Once you post it, it's it's out there. >> This is a digital age. Like, if you got so many concerns, again, I would really consider taking um public transport or maybe having a gate where where the vehicles could be hit. I I don't know. I'm not in charge of security arrangements for police. It's not my responsibility >> to do these. Do you know what I mean? I'm just exercising my right, doing what I can do. And I've reassured you that I haven't been >> Yeah, that's fine. >> You know, isolating cars and and making an effort to film them. So, if you could just explain that to your inspector cuz I I don't want to get into another altercation or I don't want to get into any further exchanges with anyone. Do you understand? I haven't come here for this. So, if you could just nicely explain that to him. >> Yeah. All right. >> Okay. Um, do not cross this line, okay? Up here. This ceases to be a public place, okay? There's CCTV cameras watching you. If you proceed into that area, carry on, continue to um video, we may take uh police action. >> Like what action? >> But you know, you know this because you're here to revoke and I've just spoken and um I think from the CCTV, somebody knows you. Anyway, >> we'll leave it at that. Please don't come past this barrier. >> And what will happen if I do? because you you'll be trespassing on police property. Okay. >> After a series of warnings and pressure from the inspector, the most important part was what never happened. No handcuffs came out, but what the camera captured could open the door to a much bigger [music] problem for the person enforcing the law. Citizens can sue police under section 1983 when [music] their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights may face compensation payouts, disciplinary action, or even termination. When authority is used to pressure people instead of protecting [music] justice, society must remember that a citizen who knows the law is not a threat, but a boundary reminding every public agency to act [music] within the law. So, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and consider supporting us with a donation. Thank you so much. [music]