How you doing? >> Yes, I am high. Yes, I am high. You're like an [ __ ] getting that close to me. >> Wow. >> You're going to leave. You're dismissed regardless of how long it takes. Your ego's keeping here [music] and you're acting like a dumbass. >> Newly recruited police officers who exceed the limits of the law can cause the entire organization to pay the price. >> No, I don't need any help at the moment. Thank you. >> You can't video in here because of HIPPA violations with our patients. >> A hippo violations. We can't have pat our patients being seen. >> The HIPPA doesn't apply to the public. >> You're not allowed to video in here. I can call the police if I need to, but >> why would you call the police? >> When those entrusted with enforcing [music] the law exceed the limits of the law itself, the price to be paid is not just financial compensation, but also the honor [music] and credibility of the entire system. The atmosphere at the polling location, [music] once calm and orderly, suddenly grew tense as the camera began recording. A few remarks that seemed harmless at first quickly [music] ignited a heated debate over the right to film in a public place. >> Where's everybody coming from? >> Mail and ballot here. >> Thank you. You're welcome. >> You have a good day. >> It's the mail. It's the It's the mail in ballots. >> Oh, mailing. >> That's what everybody's here for. Forgot it was the sixth. Said I forgot it was voting day. Yeah. Second line. Yeah, this is this is ours. This belongs to taxpayers. You can't tell us we can't film in here. That's dumb. As long as we don't cross those doors, we're good. He was telling all of them, getting them all riled up, telling them that we can't film in here. >> That guy, that guy, I just set him straight. I said, "This is our city hall. What is this supposed to be, bro? >> Reptilian. >> Somebody with gang green or what? >> Reptilian. >> Shape shifters. >> Mhm. >> She went to go get the cops. I think >> after the initial arguments over the right to film and the visible discomfort from some people present, the situation did not calm down. Curious stairs quickly turned into direct intervention. And then when law enforcement arrived, [music] everything escalated to an entirely different level. That boy was stirring up the pot jumbolaya like the song says, getting people all riled up, telling them we're not allowed to film in here. >> Hi. How you doing? >> Yes, I am high. Yes, I am high. >> You're high? >> Yeah. Hi on live, right? >> Huh? No, I smoked the blunt a little while ago. >> Good for you. >> Excuse me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. You thought it was somebody didn't know the rights, huh? >> You thought it was somebody check see what's going on over here. >> Oh, what's going on with you? >> What's going on? >> Huh? >> Well, so we've got a ball process. >> Oh, you mean this girl didn't call you guys to come over? >> What girl? >> You're dismissed. Have a good day. >> You can go now. >> You can go now. >> No, you can go. >> I can stay here just like you can stay here. >> Is that what you get paid for? >> I do. >> Really? Mhm. >> You're like an [ __ ] getting that close to me. >> Wow. >> We wouldn't do that if you didn't have a >> citizen. I can be here, too. >> You're an employee under your capacity. >> Can I not be here just like you can? Can I? You know the rules. Can I be here just like you can? >> You're going to leave. You're dismissed regardless of how long it takes. Your ego's keeping here. And you're acting like a dumbass. >> Can I be here like you? Check it out. You got vampire teeth. >> Come here. Come here. >> Can I be here like you? Come here. >> Can I be here like you? >> Check out his teeth, bro. This guy a human. Look at Steve. >> Can I be here like you? >> Are you reptilian? >> And why are you trying to intimidate me? >> Do you feel intimidated? >> No. >> Then I'm not trying to intimidate you. >> You're trying. >> Am I? >> Yeah. >> How's that? >> By getting so close to me, thinking you're bad. >> Stand here. >> Oh, man. >> Soft. Okay. >> Thank you for your opinion. >> At [music] this point, the confrontation was no longer just about the right to film. Personal space was breached. Words grew sharper. And the tension was visible in every glance. And right here, things began to move beyond what should have been a routine encounter. >> Your whole life hiding behind that badge. But yet, you don't have the courage to patrol those streets. I patrol those streets just with my camera. You don't have the heart without that badge and without the gun to patrol the streets that you do and to act the way that you do. >> Okay? >> You know that I You know that I'm actually your employer. >> Okay. In any other job field, if you treat an employer like this, you get [ __ ] fired on your ass, bro. But you, because you know that you have no repercussions for your actions, cuz I could tell you're evil. How many lives have you changed lying on on reports and all this stuff? Serious, when you put your your your when you lay down and your your bed, you know, your head hits the pillow, how many lives have you changed? And do you have any remorse for all the lies and all the cover-ups that you've that How many years you got? 20 years in the forest. How many lives have you changed? Bro, you're going to have to meet your maker one day and you're going to have to answer for all those lives that you changed lying and conniving and taking taxpayers money and then treating people like you're treating me right now. When you put that head on your pillow tonight, just think about the lives that you're changing cuz one day you're going to have to pay for all that. And again, you're dismissed. If your ego will let you go, you're dismissed, sir. Think about it. It's evil what you've been doing all these years. Evil, man. Why don't you go serve the community in a positive way? Take off that badge and take off that gun and go see what your community really needs. That's what a real man would do, man. Do you remember we're about the same age? You remember that job? This job used to be honorable job. Now you guys got to watch your back everywhere you go because of your guys' own actions. Sad. sad, man. I hope you haven't changed somebody's life too much, man, where you're going to have to pay the ultimate price. But yeah, you're you're you're you're in a in a profession that's life-changing for a lot of people that aren't really don't deserve it, man. So, I hope you think about that when you're look at your kids and maybe your mom gets pulled over and harassed or something and you're going to see how the other side looks at you guys. Man, I I have all the the most respect for what you guys, you know, you guys stand for. But let me tell you something. Just so you get the grasp of what you really are. They could take that that uniform right now with your same name. >> After the sharp exchanges questioning authority and responsibility, the atmosphere seemed to reach its peak. But then, in the middle of that tension, the conversation unexpectedly shifted. The tone changed. The [music] way they addressed each other softened and the story began to reveal an entirely different layer. >> I'm Donnie. Nice to meet you. >> Nice to meet you. Don, >> you you're welcome to be here and do whatever you got to do. No, you're in the public. >> Hi, Bill. >> I haven't stopped. >> Okay. >> And what was his name? You mind if I ask? Just first name? No. Okay. Just trying to be courtant. I appreciate that. >> We're both men. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> You got me before I do, man. >> Probably. So, I got work to do. >> I'm just waiting for my partners to come back out. >> You got people staffed in there cuz it's a bowling place. >> Yeah, I know. We just realized that when we were walking out. >> You didn't know it was a bowling place where you came? No. Uh I actually I forgot that it was a six. >> You have an understanding why we would be here. We get calls and >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Cuz it's it's an official election. >> Yeah. >> So we got to make sure everything's >> And you're law enforcement, right? And there's no laws broken. So they So there's nothing for you to enforce. So >> Well, not that I know. That's why my partner just went to >> No, no, no. See, reasonable art ticket suspicion you have to know, >> right? >> Know what? >> If there's a crime committed or something. >> I didn't say it there was a crime. >> I know. You said you didn't know. >> I said I don't know. No. >> Exactly. Right. >> That's why they're checking on it. Mhm. And that's why I'm not leading. >> So, in your opinion, have I had anything wrong? >> Yeah. >> What? >> First of all, you came up on me. >> I can stand here. You know, look, look, look, Donnie. >> You know, I can stand. >> I'm not even going to talk to you anymore because with that answer, you're being childish. And you know that you came up to me a little bit. You came up a little bit close. Okay. But if you don't want Listen, if you don't want to live with that, that's fine, man. That just shows your character and your ego that you're not willing to admit that you're wrong. >> I was trying to talk to you cordially. >> I I could talk to you. I could talk to him right there. But you'll see the video, man. Especially from his angle. >> You'll see the video, man. >> It just makes you guys look bad. >> Okay. >> You're earning You're earning the distrust and the hate that you guys get. You're actually getting good officers hurt by your actions because other officers wouldn't have acted like that. They would just say, "Hi, how are you guys doing?" No back. >> There's no back. Yeah. The exchange had now calmed, no longer filled with the rapid fire accusations from before. But don't be too quick to assume it was over. In the next part, those candid remarks would push the story beyond the scene itself and raise a much bigger question. Oh, >> you have a good evening. >> Good luck. >> Okay, you guys be safe. >> Just want to make sure Well, hopefully that guy uh Mr. Mahoney, if you're watching this, hopefully you think about what I said and realize that you're a you were a civilian before you were militarized and your brain was militarized. Hopefully you can come back down to Earth. And so we might as well just do the police department up, too. The confrontation ended at the scene, but the question remains, where is the true line between law enforcement and abuse of power? And who gets to decide that? Citizens may file lawsuits against officers under section 1983 when their rights are violated. Officers found in violation can face financial liability, disciplinary action, or even termination. Up next, just seconds after the camera appeared, the atmosphere inside the health department noticeably shifted from wary glances to firm claims that the recording was a violation of HIPPA. >> Hey. >> Hey. How are you? >> Fine. >> Um, who are you? >> I'm office manager. >> Office manager. And your name? >> Tanger. >> I'm sorry. >> Tang. >> Tandra. Um, no. I don't need any help at the moment. Thank you. >> Okay. You're not can't video in here because of HIPPA violations with our patients. >> A HIPPA violations. >> We can't have pat our patients being seen. >> A HIPPA doesn't apply to the public. HIPPA applies to healthcare providers, insurance companies. >> You're not allowed to video in here. I can call the police if I need to. But why? >> But why would you call the police? There's This is a public building. >> I ask you not to. So, >> but this is a public building >> just in the publicly accessible areas of the health department. >> Excuse me, ma'am. I don't understand what's the big deal. They're so quick to bring up it's a HIPPA violation. HIPPA does not apply to the public. It does not. It applies to health care workers. Not filming inside of any doctor's offices or anything. So quick to call the police. So, there is a sign right here that says no pictures, videos, or recordings allowed. I just don't understand how that sign because it says respect our patients privacy. How that sign overrides the first amendment of the Constitution, freedom of press. I'm just in publicly accessible areas. What information could I gather? Private information while I'm in public. Anyway, it's the community room over here. After the warnings about a supposed HIPPA violation and a no recording sign presented like a legal barricade, the tension in the health department hallway began to rise, everything truly shifted when law enforcement arrived. Would they side with the AY's internal rules or uphold the right to record in a public space? >> Ridiculous. No one wants any private information. Just taking some pictures and videos in public, exercising my rights. That's it. very cordial and trying to I don't understand. None of this is necessary. Sorry. >> Is there a reason you're out here? >> This is It said at a community room. I was just >> We do our train our training here. >> Oh, I mean it was open. I just was >> Is this a restricted area? >> It's not supposed to be open to the public. We have our trainings out here and our uh immunizations out here. >> Oh, I was just taking some pictures and video. I didn't think it was a restricted area cuz the door was open. And community, I thought. No, we don't have the community. >> Good. You should change the name of the room. >> Community room. Very deceiving. >> How we doing, buddy? >> Hey, how are you? >> I'm good. I'm good. >> Just doing a first amendment audit, right? >> Just taking some pictures and video. That's it. >> Okay. What? Okay, that's that's fine. As long as you don't take pictures of the patient's files, you're fine. >> Yeah. I mean, how would I >> That'd be a HIPPA violation. Well, HIPPA as as you can wait, can I just get your name and badge number, sir? >> My name is Officer Elmer. It's 8:41. >> Thank you, Officer Elmer. Yeah. No, HIPPA applies to the health care healthcare providers and insurance companies. It doesn't apply to me. >> Well, no, no. I'm just saying you can't take their charge. >> Yeah. I mean, that would mean I would probably go into a restricted area, you know. >> As long as you're not in a restricted area, that's fine. >> Yeah. Exactly. So, >> so the thing is is, you know, so you're just you're just doing in a first amendment. >> I know. No, I never said that. I'm just taking some pictures and [music] video. That's all I'm doing. >> Okay. >> How you doing, Sergeant? Can I get your name and badge number, please? >> Yes. Cooper right here. 810. It's my badge number. >> What was the badge number? >> 810. >> 810. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. >> Okay. So, they're just having a little bit of an issue with your record. Okay. Which >> I I noticed that. >> Yeah. That's why we're here. That's one reason. >> Mhm. >> When the officers arrived, the atmosphere shifted instantly. Explanations began to replace the initial tension. The line between a privacy violation and the lawful right to record was dissected right there on the spot. And then the discussion moved deeper into the law and how everything could have taken a completely different turn. >> Literature of the building. That's all I'm trying to do here. My intention is not to film anything behind your window. Like I said, HIPPA applies to you. So, it's [music] your the onus is on you to keep your information and private information safe. >> And I think you're doing a good job cuz I haven't seen any. So, I haven't seen any private information. So, you guys are doing a good job protecting your um client um patients information. So, no issues here. >> How much longer are you thinking over there? >> Um not too long. Not too long. I just got to get um just going to go in that room over there, see what's over there, and just, you know, just get some more literature. >> What type of literature would you like? >> Yeah, I Yeah, ma'am. I have to go back in that room. >> They didn't have any business in that room. So that room's, you know, you've if you've already been there, then there's and that's all you're doing. There's really no point in going over there cuz that that is conduct environmental business. Unless you have any, there's really no point. >> I mean, I just wanted to take some pictures and video. That's it. >> Well, they're saying you've already been in there. >> Yeah, but I didn't get all the pictures cuz uh the office manager here came out. >> I didn't come out. You were back over here. You already in there. >> Yeah, I know. >> All right. All right. So, back to my question. How much longer are you going to be? >> Um, I'm not sure. Couldn't tell you, Sergeant. Couldn't tell [music] you. >> As long as you don't get any of these people and they don't have a problem with you video, I guess you're fine. >> I mean, they're in public. >> Well, they're in a place. >> You're you're videoing them right now, not me. >> I'm videoing? >> Yeah. You have a body camera on, don't you? >> Okay. What is that? >> That means you're taking their picture and video, >> are you not? This is going to be >> Oh, I'm just I'm stating the obvious. And it's public record, your body camera. So, >> as long as you don't go into any restricted areas. >> Well, that's what I'm saying. I understand that. But the thing is is technically he's correct. This is a public building. Okay. [music] >> The thing is he can't but he cannot record medical documentation. He cannot do that. Okay. Now, people, we don't have a sense of privacy when we're in these buildings. they're in a closed door and he opens that closed door like they're in a patient's room. They have some >> they have an expectation of privacy. >> That's that's that's the thing that we come across. Okay. Obvious >> as concepts like restricted areas and reasonable expectation of privacy were clearly explained. The tension seemed to ease. But the real surprise was that the conversation didn't stop at right versus wrong. It shifted to something deeper. accountability, body cameras, and transparency from both sides. >> Well, we we know we've had we've dealt with this before where people want to record stuff. Like I said, you have the right, but we also had to be respectful of each other. >> Of course, I've been nothing but respectful towards you. >> I haven't seen you being disrespectful at all >> to to anybody here. That's not that's not who I am. That's not the That's not the man my mom raised. >> Okay. Well, you do what you got to do. >> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. >> So, you mind follow along? It's a You sure? That's not a problem. >> I get the door for you. >> I appreciate it. >> No problem. >> Like I said, we just can't record anything that's privacy factor. You know that. >> You know how this applies. >> They uh you've done your research. >> Yeah. I'm I'm pretty I don't want to break the law. That's my goal. I don't want to break the law. >> Because break the law then you got to hold the consequence. >> Exactly. Why would I want to break the law? I'm a I'm a lawabiding citizen. >> There's nothing wrong with it, bud. Like I said, >> yeah. >> Just being respectful of each other. That's it. No. Oh, you know, like what you're doing. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. I just And and the way I do it is >> Well, like I said, as long as we conduct it in a manner where we're not violating any rights, like I said, we're good. >> Good. >> We don't have a problem with people that we have a problem with people that >> want to violate people's rights. Just like somebody's trying to violate your rights, we don't like that either. >> Exactly. And I appreciate you explaining it to them. You did a great job. And you know, it's not >> Well, like I said, they can request privacy. >> Mhm. But there's no expectation of privacy in a public place like you said. >> For sure. >> Now, as far as their medical records go, you know, just as well as I do, you can't record that. >> That would that would involve me like going back there and opening up their file. Yeah. No, I get that. >> You're right. So, but like I said, >> if they were, for example, but though, if you know, if they were holding it up to the window and I was passing it by and they held it up to the window, >> then then technically you're not doing anything wrong. You're right. They're holding it to where you can see it. It's not being kept private. >> What police department am I? We're Pel City. >> Pel City. >> Where are you from, bud? >> I'm from New York. >> You're from New York? >> I'm from New York. Yeah. Yeah. I'm from New York. [music] >> New York. >> Uh Long Island. >> Long Island. >> Long Island. You've been fair to me. I'm not going to try and be mysterious with you. So >> Oh, no. No, no. >> I I appreciate it. You know, >> there's no I'm I'm a Yankee, too, so I'm from Michigan. So >> Oh, Michigan. >> Yes, sir. >> The harsh warnings were gone, [music] replaced by candid exchanges about mutual respect and shared responsibility. As body cameras and transparency entered the discussion, the atmosphere gradually became more positive. But was this newfound understanding truly sustainable? Or were there still unresolved tensions beneath the surface? >> So respectful towards me. And I a lot of the times, to be honest with you, a lot of the times, as much as I treat everybody with the same amount of respect that that they give me, and it's refreshing to have somebody that's, you know, instead of saying, "Hey, I'm going to arrest you if you don't turn off that camera and, you know, violate my rights." >> It's refreshing. So, at the end of the day, >> you know, I have no problems. It's great. And I appreciate you, you know, educating the woman, the office manager here. So, now, you know, if this ever happens again, now she knows. Well, the thing is is like I said, they they put the sign out there >> because they're trying to respect their clientele, >> okay? And that's what they're doing. And they're just doing what they're told to do >> by their boss. Somebody comes in here, records, call cops. >> So, that's just it. I mean, and like I said, >> you have a right to walk around and film anybody in a public place. >> Yeah. >> Now, you can't go behind restricted doors. >> Yeah, for sure. Would never want to do that. >> That would be crazy. So, >> um would you mind giving me the um the CAD number for the call? >> Um that's up to him. He's a sergeant, so I can I can I mean I can give it to you. I'm just asking to >> You ready for it, bud? >> Yeah, you can just say >> 2022-053176. >> Okay, great. I just like to have that just in case I need to get the body camera footage or anything like that. >> Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I'm >> Do your whole department have body cameras? >> Yes, sir, we do. >> Oh, that's great. >> We do. We we we're >> our uh our department's been a big proponent of it and down here in the south have been >> good transparency. >> Well, it is. You're right. You're correct. Um you know, just like you had pointed out to you know that we're recording. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Because it's protection both of you and me. >> The constitutional rights audit ended peacefully. But what lingers isn't just who was right or wrong. [music] It's how a measured respectful dialogue can completely change the course of events. In a society governed by the rule of law, authority and citizens rights must always go handin hand with responsibility and mutual respect. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, [music] don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with the donation. Thank you so much. [music]