Unfortunately, listen. Unfortunately, that's your job. You took a job where you had to do that, right? I didn't take that job. I took a job where I don't have to give my name, right? Come on. >> I can stand right next to >> What law is that? >> What law is that? >> What law is that? >> When legal truth is challenged in the most powerful face, an unprecedented moment of humiliation >> that I can't film in a post office law. >> Do you know what law it is? I gave you my name, my number, my badge number. >> I feel like she's trying to make a big deal out of her. >> Armed with just a camera and the First Amendment and independent journalists shook up the entire law enforcement system. >> Gentlemen, here is an employee of the post office. This is a federal building. You cannot record in the federal building. >> Allow me to be here. >> Okay. >> But the first amendment of the constitution, freedom of press, allows me to be here and record. >> In the middle of the federal post office, a journalist was questioned fiercely just for holding a camera. Is he facing the risk of arrest? >> This is the rules and regulations governing co um governing the conduct on postal property. If you if you prevent that in any way, you will be violating my civil rights. >> Ma'am, am I detained? >> Ma'am, am I detained? >> An emergency call brings the police to the scene, but when the law is invoked, things start to get more tense than ever. >> Hey, sir, can you tell me what law what law it is that I can't that I can't film in a post office? It's against the law. >> Do you know what law it is? >> No. Okay. >> Once the court feels entitled to report, I informed you that we don't allow the post office. >> Sir, good morning. How are you? >> Good morning, sir. >> Officer Queen Napa City Police Department. Okay. >> Okay. >> I just want to inform you that we are being recorded right now. All right. >> Okay. You're about to come. >> Gentlemen, here is an employee of the post office. This is a federal building. You cannot record in the federal building. Okay, Officer McQueen, uh, I want to show you something and maybe you too, uh, supervisors, uh, I'm going to show you these. This is the rules and regulations governing co um, governing the conduct on postal property. If you read right here, photographs for news purposes may be taken and commercial purpose may be taken in entries, lobbies, foyers. Photographs and video are the same thing, officer. >> Photographs and video are two things. >> 101 is a video. I'm telling you it's I am a journalist. >> So, not only does the rules and regulations allow me to be here, >> but the first amendment of the constitution, freedom of press, allows me to be here and record. This is a public building. >> Actually, if you if you want to do what you're talking about, you actually have to give permission. >> I'm an independent. I'm independent. >> All right. So, you have any type of identification on you? >> Um, no. I don't need any identification. >> I didn't know you were press. >> No, you said you work for the press. You are the press. >> I am the press. Yes, I am the press. and I'm a I'm a journalist. If you if you prevent that in any way, you will be violating my civil rights. You'll be violating my rights to film. >> Right in the middle of the federal post office, the tough questions rang out. Am I under arrest? Can I be arrested? And the police's answer left the entire audience holding their breath. >> If you don't like the way it works, take it up with your local congressman. Have them change the the have them change the constitution. >> You should take things out. >> I don't need to. I'm within my rights to be here in Finland now. You guys should just leave. You >> live here in a city. You guys should just leave. You >> live here in the city. >> I'm not going to answer your question. >> So if if you don't live here in the city, we're not wasting your money then, right? So who cares about it, right? >> I pay federal taxes. >> I have no idea. You won't get I have no idea if you're employed. I have no idea who you are. I have no idea about anything. >> I'm not I don't even want to talk to you anymore. >> I mean, don't talk to me >> cuz you're you're being difficult. Okay. >> I don't even want to talk to you. It's just it's just it's just a back and for a camera in front of my face. >> I mean, I'm filming you. Yeah. Because I don't I don't know what you're going to do. >> You're sitting here having a conversation with me. They want they want to push agendas on people. Let's hear this guy speech. Make sure >> I want to make sure you're doing your job. Yeah. >> He wants us to make sure that we take that camera cuz he's probably looking for a lawuit just like just just like just just like you just like you knew that the federal law was against, right? How's that working out for you? >> Well, let's see how long you're going to be here. >> All right. We'll see. Longer than you. Guarantee that. >> I don't think so. All >> righty. Okay. Filming the building is is creepy, huh? I didn't film not one person. You don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea. You just you just came in here and started escalating. I wasn't filming people individually. >> Federal law, right? >> Oh, man. I'm not going to entertain it anymore. >> Stand by. The uh security forces are going to be coming. It's their jurisdictions and they're going to be dealing with it. >> I'm here. I'm I'm getting paid all day. So, I'm here all day. >> So, let me just update the commander. >> You can't even tell me your name, man. Like, what's your name? >> I gave you my name, my number, my badge number. >> Unfortunately, listen. Unfortunately, that's your job. I didn't take that job. I took a job where I don't have to give my name, right? Come on. You You have to give your name. You didn't give You didn't give me your card cuz You didn't give me your card cuz you wanted to. You have to. >> It's right here. >> In the midst of the tension reaching its peak, a powerful figure suddenly appears, carrying the truth that could turn the entire situation around. >> Sir, mask. Mask. Um, your name and what position you hold? >> Post inspector Owens. >> Post inspector Owens. >> Yes. >> Okay. And I told them that it wasn't and I referred them to Poster 7. I've talked to your offices before and I'm sure you're well well aware of what it is I'm doing here and stuff like that. There's nothing >> you just know as long as you're doing it, you can't record >> behind the counter. >> Behind the counter. >> Correct. I know that. Or or restricted areas. I know that. >> But everywhere else I can film, >> right? Yeah. >> Space is accessible. >> I told you you were going to learn today. >> You wanted to learn. You told me. And I told you somebody's going to come and help you. Thank you. >> Yeah. Ma'am, ma'am, >> you can stand by for just one minute and we'll let you >> What does standby mean? >> Is that a detainment? >> Ma'am, am I detained? >> Ma'am, am I detained? >> Hold on. Long Island Auto. Give me one. Give me one second. Do me a favor. Give me one second. >> Yeah, but she said I was She said I stand by. >> She said stand by. >> Oh, I thought I I could have It could have been detained. >> No, no, that does not mean detained. >> I didn't know. >> You said So stand by means just wait here for one minute. >> All right, guys. So, we got the sergeant officer and a postal inspector, postal inspector Owens. Hopefully, he does the right thing and uh educates these uh officers. He already did. He told him I had a I was allowed. >> As the legal truth was revealed, all eyes turned to law enforcement with the question, had they just shot themselves in the foot? >> Told you I can do it, right? >> I I heard him say that. Yeah. >> Yes. Okay. So, why are we all still here? Why can't you guys just go? Everybody has an enjoy your day McQueen and everybody goes on their way. >> I I think it's the other way around. But what I'm trying to say is that I think they are trying to look for any kind of updated documentation that there may be. Um you asked me to ask him about that paragraph in there for questioning. I think they're trying to >> explain or provide us with documentation on that paragraph so we know next time on how we can handle the situation better. >> Okay, cool. And when I'm in libraries, it's because I I'm a father. That's why that's why like when I'm in libraries, you know how they have the kids section. If I see a kid, I immediately turn my camera because even though I might have the right to film, it's they're kids. That's sacred. That's for me. >> So there are bound or if somebody tell you another thing, if somebody came up to me politely and said, "Hey, like they passed me like they're they just did business at the post office and they passed me and they said, "Hey, sir, what are you doing this?" No problem. I'll blur your face out. You won't be in my story. That's it. But when you come up to me and you're like, "Don't stop [ __ ] filming me." And you and you're like, "Get in my face and you're getting crazy." So, I have to show everybody that you made yourself out to be a fool. And that's what, you know, people are going to watch the video more because you made yourself out to be a fool. But if you told me, "Hey, listen. You know, I have an ex that I don't want to know that I live here or something." I really appreciate it. I'm not a bad guy. I'd say, "No problem, ma'am. I'll make sure I blow out your video." No problem, sir. It's It's not that big of a deal. It's all about figuring out what's the best way to go about doing things. There's some people who do what I do and they get they get a lot of views. They're like, "What's your name and badge number?" >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/p police chief. Public video shows police lack of understanding of the law leading to the risk of abuse of power and violation of constitutional rights. Up next, right in the middle of the police station, an unexpected collision caused the atmosphere to explode with tension. What will happen next? Okay. So, >> because I I the Supreme Court's rule we can defend I can defend myself. >> I can stand right next to me. What law is that? >> What law is that? >> What law is that? >> I can What are you going to react though? What law would you be enforcing? >> We'll find out. >> A tense confrontation erupts. Police confirm that the area is no filming. But what is the legal evidence for this ban? >> And walk up and push me. Dude, what's wrong with you? I was coming over here so I could see him. >> And you walk up and start shoving me. You're lucky your face didn't hit that concrete, bud. And I promise you I'll bounce you off every wall around this place. >> Hear me out. Okay. >> Yeah. >> I don't mind what you're doing. I don't >> You can't record. I don't mind it. But just be careful that if you're going to be like all up in here, be careful. We do get calls for service. So when you get out >> Yeah. I don't need directions. I don't need any direction. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But I can be back here. >> But you're on the property of city. >> And it's open to the public. >> Not the back. >> It's all open to the public. It's wide open. There's no fence, no gate, no door, no barrier. Not going to do a favor at all. >> I'm going to touch the vehicle. >> You're not going to touch your vehicle. >> I am going to touch the vehicle. I mean, you want to put it on? >> No, it has nothing to do with that. >> There's no law saying I can't touch these. As a matter of fact, I can come tire kick every one of these vehicles if I want. >> That's not tampering with a car. Tampering with a car is actually causing some harm to the vehicle. Sir, what then? You're familiar with Hey, then do what you got to do. I'm very familiar with the law. So, I'm not I'm not >> So, I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to touch the vehicles. >> This this area is not open to the public. >> It is open to the public. >> You might not want it, but it is open to the public. >> No, it's not >> because I I the Supreme Court's rule, we can defend I can defend myself, right? And it would if I would have been just if I would have punched him right in his mouth, I would have been totally justified and I got it on camera. Right. So, >> you can't just walk out. Huh? >> You're allowed to insight after the fact. >> Yeah, I know what it means. Insight whatification. How am I inside an altercation? >> Threats keep coming. Arrests, violent reactions, but is this legitimate power or just a blatant abuse of power? >> I can walk right up to >> our reaction could possibly be way different if you're at our back door and we go to a call. So, and plus we know who you are. We've seen your face. We may not know your name, but we've seen your face. You know, >> I'll be out here for a couple hours. >> Yeah. I mean, it is what it is. I don't need you to worry about my safety. I need you to to reprimand I need you to reprimand him for for touching me. You will. Yeah. When the complaints come in and all that stuff happens. Yeah. You guys will be looking into it cuz you can't just walk up and push somebody. >> Well, I mean, I just got shoved because he thought I was going to touch the vehicle and I was coming to talk to you and yet I can touch the vehicle. >> So, why shove the Duke people, bud? Of course I'm going to be mad. Of course you're going to get a reaction. You come up and shove me. I was coming to talk to you. I was very cordial until I was shoved. You weren't shoved. Let me come shove you and then see how cordial you are. You're not going to like it, right? >> So, don't be mad at me for not liking it. >> You're here for a personal gain or some some reason, right? >> I'm here for a reason. Yeah. >> And it's it's not about I mean, you guys don't have to give a negative reaction at all. You guys know I can do this because he your guy t pushed me and shoved me to to not touch a vehicle. I can touch the vehicle. So, and basically you guys are trying to enforce things that aren't laws. I'm going to record all the cars. >> As we walk back inside, you're going to vandalize or do what you got to do. >> That's That's not my business. That's not my problem. I'm going to I'm going to record all the cars doing it. Other than that, I'm going to take pictures of all the cars. I'm going to be around them. Like I said, I'm going to go sit on a couple of those cuz they're lower. Check out some of my videos and I'll be around. And then you said he didn't touch me. And then he said, "Oh, no." But you walked up on him, >> bro. I got it on camera. Industry regulations clearly state force should only be used when there is reasonable suspicion. But the actual actions of the police have raised painful questions for the public. >> I don't want you near me. >> I can come right next to you. There's no law. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. >> Don't I can come. I can stand right next to you. What law is that? >> Okay. >> You tell me not to get next to you. I can get 3 ft from you. I know you guys have your 21 ft. Yes, I can. >> Not get that close to >> Yes, I can. And yes, I did. And yes, I will. What? What? >> 148 has to do with loitering and other things. Do you understand? 148 G's. >> How much do you think? >> There's nothing you can do, bud. >> Nothing you can do. Look, I'm 6 ft from you. That should be okay. >> That's really good. >> But but when you say I can't, that's not true. All right, that's different. That's not me getting close to him. Now I just got close to him and he shoved me again because the dude's a tyrant and he's a piece of [ __ ] But I can get close to you. I can >> Okay, I can get What are you going to react though? What law would you be enforcing? >> We'll find out if you get any questions. >> We'll find out. What? Of course. >> So, if you're going to be out here, I'll let my guys know. >> There's nothing. There's nothing. Dude, you're a lieutenant. And I'm I'm I'm ashamed, man, because >> I'm pro police just like you asked that I stay away from you, but I don't have to. I'm going to be right by the door. Yes, I am. I'm going to be right by it. I'm going to be by the door. I'm going to do all that. >> And you guys weren't out here telling me not to, then I then I wouldn't be. But I'm going to be right by the door. Look, I'm right by it. What's wrong with these guys, dude? These guys are something else. >> A formal complaint was requested, and the surprising behavior of some officers took the situation in a completely different direction. The video exposed abuse of power, lies, and violations of police procedures, calling on the community to speak up and demand transparency and internal discipline. Can >> I get a complaint form from you? >> Complaint form? >> Yeah, they're online at uh Ridley. You got a paper copy? >> Yeah. Yeah. I'll have to bring There might be some over there, but I'll start pulling up. >> Let me I'll check right here. There's a kid who Mr. Touchy Touchy right there. Pro police. But why you start shoving people? At least this sergeant had enough sense to tell the young kid to go back to get inside and get out of there. And he told the other cops to get out of there, too. You know, I can give them credit for that. >> Perfect. >> What was your name, sir? Uh, >> I don't give it. >> Okay. All right. Yeah, just you can read through that. >> Yeah, I got it. >> And then fill out all your information, then what they go from there. >> Oh, I can check them. What's upstairs here? >> Uh, what's city hall? >> Oh, city hall. And they're closed right now, so I can't even get it from the clerk. Okay, I'll call in. I'll come down tomorrow. >> All right. >> All right. Thanks. Every citizen has the right to respect, freedom of the press, and the right to supervise those who hold public power. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> Get out of the car. >> Get out of the car. >> When unable to refute with reason, some people choose to use badges. puncher. >> A small mistake on the car and a stubborn decision caused everything to spiral out of control. But no one expected the ending to be electric. >> When a 65year-old woman refused to follow a simple command, a police officer decided it was time to teach her an unforgettable lesson. >> Hit and we're waiting to see if I can't find a bed for it. A short bed. It's drivable. Yeah, but it's not legal cuz you got to bust a tail light. You got your driver license insurance on you. You live here in town? >> No, my name's Hamill. But I don't know. >> Haml, huh? >> Yeah. Huh? >> Gotcha. Related to Hank? >> I'm his mother. >> Oh, okay. Good job insurance. >> I see. Did you see my own vehicle? >> All right. Appreciate it. Yeah. Busted tail light seems to be a pattern with the Hamls. >> Well, y'all had a headlight out on one of your pop cars the other night. >> We did that. Yeah, but I just don't tell you. >> We should have. All right, Miss H, since you informed me that you've had that for 6 months. >> Oh, yeah. We're just looking for a bed because we can't find a short bed. I mean, my brother's looking for it. >> Can you at least get the light? >> Okay. Well, put red tape on it. Will that work? >> Yeah, but I don't think I don't think red tape's going to help you there. You don't have enough plastic to tape over. >> Well, you know, I kind of hate to buy one if I'm going to get the whole bed and it's going to have everything on it. >> A seemingly peaceful exchange between a citizen and a police officer suddenly turned into a situation requiring an ambulance. What happened on the edge of the law? >> Well, I did issue for a defective equipment. It's $80. Uh you have till September 16th to take care of this. Uh get you to sign there with the X is. >> So, you don't even give a warning for this? You've been driving around for 6 months like that. >> I'm truthful. >> Well, I'm not going to give you a warning for something you've been driving for 6 months. >> But you you've seen me in here. You've seen me in town. >> I haven't. >> You had to if I've been up here. That is fixable and I can fix it if that's all you want. >> Go ahead. Step out of the car. >> Why? >> Cuz you're under arrest. Step out. >> Step out of the vehicle. >> No, I'm not. >> Step out. >> Step out. I'm giving you a lawful order. Step out. You be fair with me and I'll be fair with you. >> Step out. >> No, >> you're under arrest. >> No, I'm not. >> I'm placing you under arrest. Step out. >> You are full of Because you're not under no damn arrest. >> Step out. >> No, I'm not. >> 305 303. >> Do not do not take off. >> Shut up and give me that and I'll sign it. >> Step out. We're beyond that. >> Step out. >> To sign or not to sign. The seemingly innocuous question led to an incident that sent the whole town into an uproar and a wave of civil rights debate ensued. >> Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. >> Get out of the car. >> Get out of the car. >> You better leave me. >> Put your hands behind your head. Leave me alone. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Now I said leave me alone behind me. Leave me alone. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Lay down and put your hands behind your back. >> I will stand up >> now. >> I will stand up. >> No, you will not. You're going to get it again. 305 dispatch. Go ahead and start EMS. Uh, taser deployed. One female custody. >> When power is applied like a sledgehammer for a petty offense, people wonder, is this law enforcement or disguised retaliation? >> So, why did you take off? >> Because I knew that you would arrest me. I wasn't going to. All you had to do was sign a ticket. >> But can you Well, just listen to me a minute. Do you know that nobody nobody wants to come to cash in for any reason whatsoever because they know it's going to be an $80 fine for some dumb something all the time. >> Well, when you drown around like that, where do you think you can go driving around and get away with like that? >> King Fisher cuz I'm going through a King Fisher right now to go to Loyal. I bought groceries. >> You may not like the laws. We're here to enforce them. Whether that be in cash in Oklahoma County or wherever. Okay. You guys are going to learn the hard way that we're not putting up with it. >> You guys just You're saying the hamls. >> The citizens. >> The citizens of cash. >> You break the law in cash and we're going to enforce it. >> Yeah. >> Whether you're a haml or not. Okay. >> No, you did this. You did not have to taser me. >> You wouldn't comply. You wouldn't get out and then you tried to kick me. So, yes, I did. >> Yeah, I tried to kick you cuz I'm a country girl. Because No, I didn't. >> And you got taste because of it. >> Yes. And I didn't like being thrown on the damn branch. >> Well, next time, listen to what I'm telling you to do. You're the one that escalated this. All you had to do was sign, you would have been on your way. >> Find an $80 ticket that I had no business even getting. >> You told me you've been driving now for 6 months. That's half a year. >> That's right. >> Okay. Every time that we try to find 305, >> her arrest for refusing to sign a ticket is controversial. In many states, signing a ticket is merely an acknowledgment of receipt of an unsigned ticket, not a crime. Converting it to an arrest could be a violation of constitutional rights. And using electricity is overkill on someone whose life is not in danger.