Yes, we can. Yeah. I I just sure do. Oh, really? I want to see you do that. Touch me. Touch me. Touch me. And where you going? Touch me. >> What started with a camera inside a government building quickly became a legal nightmare as a citizen who knew the law forced police to confront the consequences of orders they could not legally justify. >> Yes. Yes. >> You're a troublemaker. >> I'm a troublemaker? >> Yes, you are. You're standing here massless filming and >> Why would I have a mask on? But I'm the troublemaker. >> Yes, you are. >> At a federal post office, what seemed like a minor confrontation quickly became a potential legal nightmare as a citizen who knew the law refused to back down from unsupported demands. They walked in with nothing more than a camera, but the reaction from security suggested there was something they did not want seen. And when a door was suddenly locked, a simple request began turning into a tense confrontation. >> Who are you guys coming for? >> Who are you? >> Who are you guys coming for? >> Uh we're just uh trying to do a public records request form, please. >> Oh, no. Y'all can get up out of my face. >> We're not in your face, ma'am. You have a [clears throat] mask on. >> I'm okay. I'm not leaving. >> Why? >> Cuz I said so. >> Why? We're trying to do business here. We Excuse me. Excuse me. Your business? This is >> disorderly language. >> Ma'am, are you a police officer, ma'am? Ma'am, are you a police officer? >> No, we're here to conduct business. You don't tell us what to do. No, you don't. >> Do you have a Do you have a supervisor I can speak to? You have a supervisor? >> I'm sorry. What do you What do you Are Are being detained? >> Yep. >> Okay. >> We're being detained. >> to lock the door, bro. >> Ooh. >> Okay. >> Ma'am, why are you being disorderly? >> Come on. >> You need to be very careful with the words you say. >> Man, what the hell did I say? >> Is there a supervisor? >> Come on. Let's go. >> I'm trying to do a public Ma'am. >> I don't care. >> Respectfully, ma'am, is is >> Ain't no respectful or disrespectful in this >> Oh, you said >> you kicking us out for absolutely no reason? We're here to conduct business. >> I'm about to show you why. >> Okay. >> Well, we're going to show you. We're going to show you. >> Cuz y'all was just downtown acting a stupid ass. >> Oh, really? >> Yep. >> Really? >> security you guys having protecting your building. >> Uh 80800 East 6th Street. >> right there. >> I need to call these. I have these three eight and a people in here. Um I think they work for the city or whatever they do. They inside my state building. >> Inside? >> building. >> It's not yours. >> As the argument showed no sign of cooling down, all eyes turned to the supervisor who had just appeared. But his first few words and arrogant attitude made the camera capture far more than the building ever wanted exposed. >> videos. >> She's not letting us conduct business because of cameras. How silly are you? >> Silly? >> I hope you hit the like button when you seen us downtown. >> Oh, for real? >> Do you Are you a supervisor here? Cuz we just walked in and we want to conduct business. Excuse me, we're not We haven't speak We haven't We're not bothering anyone, sir. Excuse me, ma'am. She's this She just don't listen to her. We have everything on video since we got here. So, she's lying. Okay, first of all, she's lying and we have thousands of people watching right now. So, we're we're we're We're live right now, actually. And Well, we want to conduct business. We want to do a public records request form, okay? And she's kicking us out and calling the police over cameras. So, [music] we're gladly waiting for the police so we could show them the video of when we got here and started recording from all the way outside and the video explains everything about our visit here. So >> Why were you recording way out here? >> Because we're working we're working on a video about the about the Raytown City Hall. >> You can't do that again. >> Yes, we can. >> This is a state building. >> Yeah. >> You want to argue with me? I I just sure do. I will throw you out. >> Oh, really? I want to see you do that. I want to see you do that. I want to see you do that. Touch me. Touch me. Touch me. Touch me. And where you going? Touch me. Touch me. >> He's going to touch our person. That's a lawsuit. >> Touch me. >> There is no cameras allowed in this building. >> You are wrong, sir. You're wrong. Yes, you are. No, what about the First Amendment? >> Nobody cares about the First Amendment. Nobody cares about the First Amendment. >> Oh, that I know that. I know I know you don't. That's why you're you're you're calling the police. What you say? >> I know. Think I kicked out last week at the Fletcher building. So I already knew what he was. >> Yeah, okay. We're going to see. >> Yeah, we are. >> Yeah, we are. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, we're going to see. You're No one's your employee here. You're just a security guard. >> I am. >> Yeah. >> Security officer, get it right. >> I call you whatever I want to call you. How's that? >> Yeah. >> Like a fool? You know everybody's watching across the United States. Across the world, actually. >> We know. >> Nearly 200 million combined people >> Yeah. >> Do you have some anger issues, sir? You sure do. You You don't scare us. You don't scare me. >> Yeah. >> You don't scare me, brother. I'm from Puerto Rico. >> And I'm from Alabama. >> Okay. >> As the supervisor's arrogant attitude made the situation even more tense, all attention immediately shifted to the officers who had been called in. And the moment Raytown police walked in, the camera was no longer just recording an argument. It was recording how the truth would be tested. >> How's it going, sir? >> What's up? How's it going? >> I'd like to press charges on this gentleman over here for making threats to us. We have everything on video. Don't take any word that they're saying because they have nothing to back it up. We have everything on video since we got here. I was just showing this uh this lady over here everything that happened. This gentleman said that he would physically throw us out of the building. Then, he said that he he uh made on video to have anger issues. Uh watch your back. And then, he says that he may be considering no work work not working anymore here. So, we're concerned about this guy. Also, we walk in here, sir, with the most respectful way. Uh we've done multiple videos in Raytown already, and no one has given us a problem. She says that she wants us arrested for walking in here and asking for a public records request form while at while ask while uh holding a camera. I I have everything on video. If I If you want to see it, I'll be more than glad to show you. >> you what. Since there's two of us here, let's divide and conquer. Do you mind just chatting with him? Let me get with him real quick, and we'll get everything squared away. >> Sure. Sure. We're going to show him. >> Um we'll just We'll take a report, obviously. Um uh you guys got your IDs? >> Am I being detained? >> Uh no, but for the report, if you want to follow up a report, then we need to do that. >> Um I I I Are you Are you as a as a victim uh Is Is this an arrestable offense right now? >> Well, what'll happen from here is uh >> Could you Could you tell him? >> He's telling him that he's going to kick him out. He's going to throw him out by force. >> Yeah, so I mean, if he's making threats and you feel that your safety was in jeopardy, what we'll do here is we'll type up a report, right? It'll be passed on to our investigators to see if they have enough to charge with an assault. That's what they do, right? That's what our guys do. >> Awesome. Awesome. We'd like to We'd like to do that. I I I would I would love I would love to to press charges on on this gentleman. >> Yeah, if we can get the video of what happened >> I can give it to you. Yeah, I can give it to you. >> And then I'll just get >> No, I'm going to press No, I'm going to No, no, no, no, no. She said we were going to get arrested. I'm going to press charges on him. Here's my ID. No, I'm going to do it. I'm going to press charges. Uh you're detained. You're detained now. >> When police themselves confirmed the filming group's rights, the supervisor's earlier arrogance suddenly became a weakness he could no longer hide. And only when the threat of a complaint was put on the table did the situation take an unexpected turn. >> I would say if he apologizes to us and lets us get a public records request that you would you would >> You know what, mister? That sounds like a good like a good idea. Can we get an apology? >> Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that this had to come to this. >> Thank you. I'm a man and I respect No, no, no, no, no. You see you're lying again. Just just >> I ain't saying more to you. >> No problem, sir. We you don't have to say anything else. I take your apology as a man. Uh we're going to be on our way. I'm going to I'm not going to do that. But >> But just so you guys know on your end we we'll still go ahead and we can pull a report number if you wanting to do that at 1:01 may we can still pull one for their end as well. So >> We both have logs. >> Yeah, it's a call for service number so the report goes into a daily log. Every call we go to we document. >> are very respectful guys. What's your favorite amendment? >> Any amendment? >> Like what's the >> Big Mike. Yeah, Big Mike. >> Probably the first two. >> Thank you. Yes, sir. You're absolutely right. And we're also bringing awareness on freedom of the press. You see? Every Everywhere we go around this country we have over we we have over a thousand videos around the country right now. And everywhere we go they say well show me your press credentials, show me your press passes. And we get this from the lease from government employees all over the country. >> Yeah, it's one of those things that I think some people don't realize that police officers we deal with cameras and stuff all the time. So we're used to that type of exposure. But I think sometimes certain employees, state buildings and stuff that aren't police officers they're not used to the exposure. So when they someone comes in with a camera I think it I think it that way. >> You know what? Raytown Raytown is an outstanding place, you know? How long you work here for? >> I'll be hitting four years this year, actually. >> Well, we thank you, bro. Have you been in the in the military before? >> I was not in the military. >> No? Yeah, that's good. That's good. I I I support good cops. I love cops, man. You mind You mind if I shake your hand? Thank you, sir. Thank you for your support. Thank you for your um Are you Are you a police officer as well? >> He He's a brand new officer, yeah. He He's kind of just riding along and getting ready to go to the academy. >> Oh, he's ready. >> He's just kind of tagging along on a ride along. >> A- When you're on Well, you're you're on the perfect day of training, bro, because you're never going to forget that we have freedom of the press, first amendment uh right, and unless we're in private property, then we're good to go. We're good to >> that body later in the heroin overdose, he'll forget all about that. >> [laughter] >> Okay, guys. >> We're going to be on our way. >> We're We'll We'll I We'll do something. We will We will be out of this building cuz we have to prove a point. And like we haven't been disrespectful to to her the whole way, although she called the police on us and wants us in a cage, we just need We just need to We just need to do uh uh >> We'll do one couple of directory requests cuz I do I mean I am very >> The tension passed without anyone being arrested, but the story still left a clear lesson. Inside a government building, one wrong reaction is enough to place public trust under suspicion. Next, not everyone likes being recorded on camera, but this man's reaction seemed to go far beyond normal discomfort. And within minutes, the entire post office area became the center of rising tension. >> Oh, there you go. Oh, there you go. >> Oh, again. You're fine. >> So, now what you're going to do? So, you're going to do what you just accused me of doing? >> Right. >> Oh, so >> Because I'm afraid you're going to dox me because that's why you did that. And so, when you dox me, I need to have information to give the police so that um they know where to come. They They know where to come. >> Now, what you Now, what you're going to do with your version of this video? >> Thank you. >> Police on the way. Good. >> Good. >> They need to throw this guy off the property for causing a disruption. It's all on video. >> need to go. >> Why? >> Because you're the disruption. >> be on this property. >> Oh, I absolutely can. >> down there on the sidewalk. >> No, absolutely not. What is your name? Do you work here? >> What is your name? Do you What is your name? You're afraid You're afraid to give your name. >> I'm not afraid to give my >> You're a coward who's afraid to give your name. >> just get in your car and go have a nice day? >> are you asking other people for their names, but you're too big a coward to give yours? >> No, not at all. You're a troublemaker. >> You I'm [laughter] a troublemaker? >> Yes, you are. >> You're standing here maskless, filming, and harassing people. >> would I have a mask on at all? >> But I'm the troublemaker. >> Yes, you are. >> You're the one that had The video doesn't lie. You're the one that had the You're the one that had the police called on them. >> No, who cares? >> [laughter] >> I'm the troublemaker. >> Who cares? Do you think I'm afraid of the police coming here? >> Yes, yes, I do. I do think you're afraid of the police >> like I'm afraid? >> [laughter] >> Do I look afraid? >> You do. You do. >> I do. I look like I'm scared? >> You do look scared. You You won't give me your name? >> Why would I If you would have approached me like a normal person, I would have had a normal conversation with you. Just like I was having with the young lady when you walked up. >> coward. >> Okay. Yep. >> It's okay, coward. >> Okay. >> I'm going to stay here with you. >> going to go to do anything. >> [laughter] >> I'll film I'll film your plates when the cops get here. >> Well, I mean, that's fine. That's fine, because then the police will have your information. I want to be clear on something. Can you put me on camera? >> Police don't get my information for nothing. >> your information. >> not. >> And then when you doxed me and then when you doxed me, the police will know who you are. >> Well, you make a lot of assumptions. What makes you think I'm going to dox you? >> Because >> you took my video. >> Because you're being Because you're acting like a fool and I want to know who you are. You did that with the intention of doxing. >> No, that's your That's your That's made up in your little bubble. >> intention of doxing. >> No, that's made up in your little bubblegum mind. >> Why else would you do it? >> I'm trying I'm trying to tell you I'm trying to tell you, but you won't shut up. >> are you afraid to give your name and tell me what car is yours? >> Give me your name. >> Because you're a coward. >> Give me your name. >> You You took my information. Tell me >> That's not your name. That's your publicly visible license. >> Tell me which car is yours and I'll take the same information >> This is a circle jerk conversation. Come on. >> As the verbal attacks kept escalating, the confrontation moved far are a normal disagreement. Everything changed when authority arrived on scene and just a few words later viewers were left wondering whether the law was being enforced or twisted to serve those in power. >> Hi, how are you? >> Good. How about you guys? >> Why don't you let the officer handle it? >> I will. >> You've You've done enough. >> I'm I'm totally correct. >> Good. Talking to help you. >> I don't know. How come What What's going on here? I'm getting calls from citizens saying they're feeling harassed. So >> Well >> No, you tell me what's going on. >> We've been here for probably Oh, they exactly have been here. About 36 minutes. >> Okay. >> And had numerous very cordial pleasant conversations with people here. >> Okay. >> This I was actually in the middle of having a conversation with a nice young lady that was here with her son. This guy gets out of his car and starts screaming obscenities at me, telling me that I support for things I don't even know what he's talking about. >> Okay. >> He has no idea why I'm here. So he just instigated an entire situation. And that's what's going on. >> Did I? >> Yep. It's all on me. >> Hey, hey, hey. We're not We're not We're not making the situation any better. >> So it's It's all documented. Everything's documented. >> Um Okay, so yeah, and you guys certainly have the option of talking to people if they want to talk to you. >> Right. Here is the Here >> Ma'am, okay. Okay, please let me do my job, okay? The problem is this is private property. >> This is not private property. >> This is private property. >> This is not This is federal property which makes it public property. >> It is not. >> Yes, it is. >> It is considered private property. >> It is, ma'am. Call FPS. >> If they don't want you on the property, they have the right to ask you to move off the property. >> That is not correct. >> That is correct. >> No, it's not. Call FPS. >> I'm not calling anyone. >> I'll suggest you call the supervisor or Homeland Security because you're wrong. >> I am not calling >> Yes, you are. >> I'm telling you >> DHS What? Well, no. I'm going to give you facts. I'm going to give you facts, not opinion. I'm not arguing. DHS put out a memo. DHS put out a memo in 2018 giving me the right to do what I'm doing standing right here. Look it up. >> It gives you the right to be on the property. It doesn't give you the right to harass people. >> harassing anyone. >> Okay. If you don't like the way that he's talking to you then >> Okay. Then what do I do? Issue both of you guys tickets for harassment cuz I'm cool with doing that if that would help. >> That's up to you. I have all the proof I need on this camera. >> And that's totally fine. What I'm saying is if people are feeling harassed, then I have the right to tell you you cannot be here if you are harassing people. >> I'm not harassing anyone, man. It's all evidence on my video. >> are feeling harassed. >> No one's feeling harassed. This gentleman got out of his car screaming obscenities at me. I didn't say a word to him. And that's all on this video. >> Okay. >> After hearing from the man who had caused the disturbance, police quickly turned their attention to Jason and his camera. But instead of clearing things up right away, the next few arguments pushed the situation closer to the edge of abuse of power. >> I wish I had gloves. It's cold. >> It was beautiful this morning. >> It was. >> Yeah. And then all of a sudden, 2 hours ago, wind picks up, it's cold. >> So now that that's gone, >> Right. >> we can have a nice, calm conversation here. >> Absolutely. I thought we were calm before. >> Yeah, no. I try to be very Yeah, yeah. I'm doing this with my son. I'm not looking to start any problems. I'm not looking to start any >> I'll Yeah, but um the video will show You're going to see the video eventually. Okay? The video's going to show you that I was standing here having a very nice conversation with the woman I was having a conversation with, because I'm not wearing a mask. He stated it. He said, "Oh, I know all about you. I know who you are, because you're not wearing a mask." >> Okay. So, you didn't even confront him. >> Never said a word. I was in the middle of a conversation with somebody else. >> So, it's not that you came over to him and said something, and he didn't like what you were saying, and that happened. >> He didn't like He made assumptions about the conversation I was having with the woman I was having a conversation with, because I'm not wearing a mask. He stated it. >> Okay. >> He said, "Oh, I know all about you. I know who you are, because you're not wearing a mask." I said, "Well, I'm standing outside the open air. Why would I wear a mask?" >> Right. Okay. >> Oh, yeah. You're a supporter. You support But it's I'm not even discussing politics with anyone. And I'm glad to see you express your First Amendment right to take video, young lady. Thank you. >> So. >> So, that's all we're doing. This is an exercise of constitutional rights. That's all it is. >> Okay. >> Simple. And I'm And we we purposely come to federal property because it is publicly accessible property. And as long as I'm not violating the law >> Sure. >> I have everybody here and there's no right to There's no reason to trespass. >> Okay. >> The post postmaster can't ask somebody to leave the property for no reason. There has to be a legal >> Sure. >> justification which would be by me harassing customers, causing a disturbance, stealing people's mail, >> Sure. >> whatever that is. >> Right. >> None of that's going on. >> And and understand on on my end, as soon as I came up, when I say you do have the right to do what you're doing, never argued with that. >> No. >> But if you get if we continue to have people that are calling in saying they're feeling harassed, then we have to deal with something different, correct? >> many customers called you? How many citizens >> What What did I just say to you? Answer my question first. >> Well, cuz you told me before that numerous people called. So I just >> So we had numerous people that called because they weren't sure what was going on out here. >> Oh, that's a different story. So they weren't saying I was harassing, they were just concerned about me being here. >> No, they were concerned about the confrontation that was happening out here. >> With that gentleman That gentleman started >> So what I'm saying is as long as we don't have that confrontation or or a bystander call us directly to say, "My name is John Smith, right? And I'm being harassed by this person." As long as we don't have a continuation of that, I got no problem with >> After several tense minutes, the original accusations began losing their weight. And when police looked back at the entire story, the situation at the scene suddenly shifted. >> Ma'am, I also heard >> that he said to you that when he pulled up, he might have misjudged what we were doing and he thought we were doing something. >> Correct. >> So that's where this whole thing started. >> No, I I heard the same >> He thought there were two guys doing something he didn't like and he decided to take action. >> Right. Right. >> That's all that happened. Before that, everything was calm and cool as a cucumber. No employee ever came out and asked me not to be here. >> Okay. >> Nobody ever said a word to me. Yeah. I respect the law. >> No, I I can appreciate that. I can appreciate that. >> And I you know, I've not interested in getting my son in trouble, either. You know, we're out here doing a good thing for what we stand up for. >> Sure. >> But I'm looking nothing to vary. It's not looking to cause any trouble for anybody. >> Okay. >> That's all it is. >> I'm I'm good for any kind of a peaceful thing. You know, I don't have any kind of a problem with that. >> Absolutely. Thank I appreciate you. Thank you. >> So, I think they're probably fine. >> Yeah, I mean it's I I um >> I'm just going to stand over here for you. Okay. >> Did you have someone that we can let or I guess I was wondering No, I I was talking to him, too. Okay. Okay. >> We asked them to leave the um the leave the property and they won't. >> All right. I can't hear you. >> I said we've asked them to leave the property and they won't. >> Okay. Well, I mean people have the right to come and go here. People have the right to >> going here coming to cause issues. >> Well, they're just We had an issue that happened, for sure. I saw that. That's that's the reason we were called, right? Right? But to directly say causing issues, I mean did they come here to cause issues? Or Okay. >> And again, that's very subjective. >> Yeah, that's your interpretation and I can appreciate that. I'm I'm not going to argue. Um They do have the right to do what they're doing. They do. Okay? If we have If we have customers that start complaining and feeling harassed, and we have to come back, and we've got a group of people, we we'll have to deal with that on a case-by-case or whatever we have to do. But that's kind of what >> And I'm going to tell you guys what. Now that you No, I was just going to tell you now that you Now that you've upheld my right to be here, we're going to hang out for a minute or two and I'm going to leave. I'm not looking to give these people a hard time. Okay? But I thank you very much for honoring your order. >> Everything ended quietly. No order to leave, no arrest, but it was enough to show that sometimes a single camera [music] is all it takes to place the limits of authority under public scrutiny. Citizens can sue police under section 1983 when [music] their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights may face compensation payouts, disciplinary action, or even termination. As a warning, when emotions are used to pressure people's lawful rights, society can easily lose the line between maintaining [music] order and abusing power. So, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, [music] subscribe, and consider supporting us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]