You've already said as a public member I can come ask questions, right? >> That means this is open to the public. Of course, I need their names to get their salaries on on Transparent California property. >> Are you restricting where I can go? >> Just because a city owner doesn't mean you can't be trespassing property. >> I've committed no uh >> a shocking call right at probation Redwood City. Again, the California court rule which says that a judge can limit photography or recording 100% sure in order to avoid the arrest because I'd rather deescalate the situation and not have to do a lawsuit. >> A tense confrontation broke out revolving around filming rights and police abuse. A small sign in a Redwood City building. Is it enough to take away a citizen's right to film? >> This is not public that you can film in. That's why there's a specific sign that says that you can't. >> So, yeah, I have business here. On top of that, to take pictures, which I'm allowed to do. >> When a probation officer takes a photo of a citizen but forbids him from filming, this paradox sparks an unprecedented confrontation. >> Pictures taken of me here. It's interesting. >> Is there a reason that you continue to film and photograph? >> Well, you had just taken a picture of me, so I'm just making sure I get a picture. >> I've asked you. I just want to get make sure I get the picture of the person who's doing it here. Can I ask your name? >> I'm the division secretary for this department. >> Okay. Division Sam, what's your name? Or you got your position, Stephanie. Okay, cool. >> They can take a picture, but I can't. It's interesting. >> You're not supposed to be the sign for >> Well, that and that's why I was asking why that's why is it that way >> information officer about that? That's not something that I can address with you. Uh, just looking around. I didn't hear I didn't hear what she said. I couldn't hear you. What' you say? >> Can Can you not see pictures? >> Uh, that's kind of part of what I'm doing is just in here taking pictures of the lobby. >> What? >> Well, just for my purposes. >> Unless you have an appointment. This is a restricted tour. You don't need to be here. >> That >> then you come up and you ask for it. >> Oh, okay. So, I could be here then >> if you need something. Yes, >> I do. But part of what I'm doing is right now I'm going to take pictures and then >> trying to let them do their job while I do mine. >> So this is the lady that I was talking to here. >> 51. >> The police stormed in, surrounded them, ordered them to get out immediately, and even asked for ID checks. But did they really have the legal basis? >> How you doing? >> Pretty good. >> Cool. Let's go. >> What was that? >> You need to leave. >> They're going to get me a manager so I can get a name of a list of employees names. They just said they're getting me a manager to talk to. You understand this is public, right? >> I understand that the sign says that you're not and it's and it's actually >> what is it? A law? >> It is. >> Can you tell me what law? No, the the courthouse below. I understand. I can't record, but >> it's the whole building. >> This is a probation office, a public lobby. I've asked them if I can come here as a member of the public to get forms. They've said yes. So that's the way the law works. >> Actually, >> I understand below because there are courouses that it can be restricted. >> No, it's it's throughout the whole building that you're not able to report. >> So this is not public. >> This is not public that you can film it. >> And what law is that though? >> Because I know him well. I can You're talking about court rule, but this is not a court. It's not a court law. >> It's a law about recording inside the court. This is its whole own office. There's not a courthouse on this floor. It doesn't pertain to this floor. >> Do you do you have an appointment here on >> They've already said as a public member, I can come ask questions. Right. >> That means this is open to the public. My business is part of my business is getting employees names, a list of employees names, finding out how to file a complaint against probation officers, uh finding out how to get their salaries. Of course, I need their names to get their salaries on on Transparent California. Yeah, I have visions here. On top of that, to take pictures, which I'm allowed to do. >> Put your mask on, please. >> My mask is on. >> Cover your nose. >> My mask is on. And I agree. >> Guideline. >> It's not a federal guideline. >> You got to put it on. >> My mask is on. >> It is not. >> It is on here. I I I'll cover my nose. And what's your name and badge number since you you apparently don't understand the way the law works? >> Deputy Fly 870. >> Okay. And what's your name and badge number? >> Chver 1020. >> Name and badge number. What was it? I I can't hear you, but you're you're quiet. >> I I just can't We can't hear it. >> Treatama. Okay, cool. >> The debate escalates. Citizens claim this is public lobbying. Police site court rules. Who is right? Who is abusing their power? >> Supervisor just said that she's not speaking to you. >> It Well, I mean, they can't do that. So, if that's the case, I want to expose that. So, >> that's partly what I'm here doing so I can expose the fact that they're refusing to speak to me. >> Can I get your driver's side? For what? Listen, >> I don't understand why. >> Well, I mean, >> hold on. >> Okay, hold on. >> People don't usually come in here asking for every single employees name. It's made people a little bit nervous, and I'm I'm sure you can understand that. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Give me a give me a piece of paper and this is a public lobby. It's open to the public. We can come here and person. I can also record my interactions with any employee here, including you guys. Again, the California court rule, which says that a judge can limit photography, uh, recording, so on and so forth, >> only goes for the court house. I've asked my lawyer before I came. >> So, and I'm not, >> it's that easy. You need to deescalate. You're not very good at deescalating. You got to calm the interaction down right away. You walked up and was like, "Let's go." You got to understand, I don't have to listen to you unless I'm being detained. Actually, then get your driver's license, please. >> You can request that. >> Am I being detained? >> Actually, >> what am I being detained for? >> Because you're you're legally filming inside the courthouse. May I see your driver? >> What What penal code or law is that? >> I don't have to give you that information. I'm asking you to see your driver's license. >> I'm in the probation lobby. >> I'm asking to see your driver's license. >> And what law is it that I even have to identify to you? >> And the other is what? >> You're causing a disturbance, which is >> How am I causing a disturbance? >> I'm asking you to leave and you're not leaving right now, >> sir. This is a public lobby. This is a >> public space. So, if you'd like, can I get a paper and a pen so I can write down my request? I'll give them my email address. They can send me over the information at that. >> Well, well, that's not Let me go ask. >> I just need the information. I mean, pretty simple that I can that I can give him. >> Minutes later, a senior officer appeared, but his behavior was completely different. What does this contrast reveal about the inside of the law enforcement system? >> First off, this is a public lobby, right? I am allowed to record in here. Okay. So, I just had an interaction with about five of your officers upstairs in the probation department. Sheriff deputies. So, they called about five of you guys. There was Sergeant uh Oh [ __ ] man. I forgot their names. I remember one was Platt and he wasn't a sergeant. Anyways, I let them know that I was going to come down here hopefully speak to somebody higher up. I was trying to get him to deescalate the situation. I'm speaking to them just like I'm doing to you now, right? Pretty cordial, calm, respectful. that too is a public lobby. I understand that we're in a courthouse and on floors that there are court rooms and court services that the California court uh rule of court law right in those areas. But just like this, like a sheriff's office, I'm allowed to record in here. They were even telling me I couldn't come down here and record, >> which I know not to be true because I have to be able to record my interactions with you guys. Yeah. >> So, what the >> I didn't say I agreed on it, but I'm listening. >> But you said you can record in here, right? You just said that a second ago. >> You asked me this is a public lobby. It's a public lobby. >> Yes. And in certain areas like office space areas, there are some limitations as well because there could be sensitive information that is said or on display in certain areas. And we do have a small window in here which there shouldn't be anything sensitive on display, but you never know. So, um, ultimately, how can I help you? Your your question. >> Well, I need to I need to go back and finish my business in that in that office. And I just didn't want to be arrested. I I know for a fact that I can record in this building legally from my lawyers. I'm 100% sure >> in order to avoid the arrest because I'd rather deescalate the situation and not have to do the lawsuit and do all that. I was really hoping they would come in and say, "Hey, this is public." >> Sir, what was your name? >> Uh, I don't typically give it. >> That's fine. My name is Lieutenant Jake Turkey. My badge number one referred to you as sir. >> Yeah, sir's good. Yeah, and I'll call you the same. >> So, I appreciate that. >> Now, as far as probation, that's not my department. I don't know. I don't know what the Sania rule is there. Um, like I said, as in here, this is a public lobby. I have no problem with you recording right here. Ultimately, I'm not familiar with the complete court order as it refers to the whole entire building. Uh, cuz this is a state building and that we >> which is public, >> which we lease in some restricted areas. >> Despite not receiving a clear commitment, he stressed that he would continue to return and bring the case to the public. The case opens up the possibility of formal complaints, civil lawsuits, and public pressure on probation and police for abuse of power and first amendment violations. Next, the door opens slightly. The camera is raised, but immediately an officer shouts, "This is a federal area. You can't film." >> You are restricting this building. >> Okay. So, you're detaining me at this present time from going into the building. No, >> you don't have to. If a rep if a representative from the property deems that you need to be trespassed, that's their >> Within minutes, the police appeared coldly ordering, "Show me your ID, you will be immediately deported." But surprisingly, the man did not back down. >> Recording um I told him, "Come here." Yeah, I told you record in the airport. The the attendants are complaining to us that he's >> and some of them are secure offices, like federally secure, and he's still trying to record in >> All right, sir. Do you got your ID with you real quick so I can trespass you from the property? >> Have a good day, bud. >> Trespass from the property, sir. Do you got your ID with you real quick so I can trespass you from the property? >> Have a good day, bud. >> They want you trespass from the property. >> Sorenson. >> Yeah, it's right there. >> And your badge number is >> 16783. >> Okay. So, Mr. Sorenson. >> Um, >> they they requested that >> you took Let me just get this over with real fast. >> Okay. >> Um, >> they still want you trespass from the property and they have every right to do so. >> Okay. What law did I break? >> Okay. Do you want a supervisor out here to better explain things to you? You mind just hanging out at the curb? Is that your bicycle or you can hang with your bike? >> No, I I can go wherever I want. This is city property and I've not broken a law of the business for me. Okay. >> Is this your supervisor? >> No, it is not. It doesn't say supervisor on the side. >> You do know it's city property, right? >> Public public property. >> City of Glendale >> um airport >> city property. >> You don't have to break law to be trespassing on property. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, you're you're Sorenson. You're trespassing me from the property. >> I'm attempting to. >> Okay. So, if I went back in there right now, you'd arrest me. >> You're not allowed to go back in there. >> Are you Am I detained? >> I do not want you to go back in there. >> Am I detained? Yes or no? >> You You're more than happy to go that way. >> So, you're detaining me from going inside? >> Yes, you are not allowed back inside. I told you. >> Is that correct? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Spoken to him. There's a supervisor that's going to come. >> Are you aware of freedom of the press? >> Supervisor's on their way. >> Surrounded by many officers, he countered with a question that confused the entire police station. Have you sworn to protect the Constitution? No one dared to answer directly. >> Told you that you're going to trespass for the property. >> Are you detaining me at this present time? >> I am not. >> Okay. >> Uh I have told him not to go into the property. Stay out of the property very soon. >> Hands on. Really? >> Stay out of the property. You are restricting this building. >> Okay. So, you're detaining me at this present time from going into that building. >> Just because a city officer doesn't mean you can't be trespassing your property. >> I've committed no uh I've committed no. >> You don't have to If a representative from the property deems that you need to be trespassed, that's their somebody in your house. You don't want them there. You want them. >> This is not someone's power. You're not on the sidewalk where you have absolutely every what is the first amendment. >> Well, so you're we're getting into semantics now. Okay. >> Okay. Semantics. >> The point is if you're requesting not to be here by representative of the property, then you can't be here. >> Is that what you're going with >> for now? Is this your purpose today, sir? >> No. My purpose was to take pictures of the facility. >> Have you accomplished that? I've I was in the middle of it when I got interrupted. >> If representatives from the establishment deem that. Yes. >> Okay. Keep digging. >> Keep digging. >> If you went to Phoenix, if you went to Sky Harbor and started taking pictures and he asked you to leave. >> I have broke no laws to leave. I don't have to. Same thing with here. They can ask me to leave, but I've committed no I've broken no law. I've committed no crime. >> You know, you're wasting a lot of people's time right now, sir. >> I'm wasting time. >> Yes, you are. >> How about you're wasting my time? >> You're free to go. Go ahead. Do you have your identification, sir? >> No. Well, actually, I do. I do. >> Okay. Can I have it, please? >> I've committed no crime. You can't You can't mess with me on the Fourth Amendment. I've committed no crimes. >> When tensions reach their peak, he plays his trump card, video evidence, and it could turn the whole game around. >> Did you trespass them? >> Okay. So, a city worker just has to say, "Hey, I don't I don't like him cuz he has red hair." Trespass. Is that what we're doing here? So, so what's what's the reason why a city employee is wanting me trespassed from public property and you're following his >> his lead? There needs to be a reason. >> There doesn't need to be a reason. >> But this is a city employee. You get it? Do you understand the lawsuit that's coming? No. Now, no. No. You push boundaries and file a lawsuit. >> All he had to do is say he's free to film him. You don't have that side of the brain that works like mine is working right now. If he just said, "You know what? He's able to film here. He's not breaking any laws. He did nothing wrong." >> They they did advise that you went into restricted areas. >> Can Can you show them where I went into or do you want to see it on video? >> So, if if I can prove right now that I didn't go into a restricted area. >> Okay. Perfect. Perfect. >> Did I go into an office? You see me going to an office? >> What is your intention on being here, sir? >> I I wanted to take pictures of the facility. I've never been here before. planes facility. Okay. I can film from public property, right? Public property. You can film anything you can see, right? Anything your eyes can see. You guys know this stuff. I can film into any office I want if it's open. Correct. >> Did you accomplish what you came here to accomplish? >> Here. I I just wanted to film, see some planes, and then ride my bike back home. But you guys are interrupting all this. And actually, I I've been told I've been trespassed. This is owned by the city. This is what my tax dollars pay for. Well, those people are here for those officers and they requested. >> Yeah, but so all they had to do is shut the door. That's privacy. >> Eventually, the truth came out, forcing the authorities to intervene. The question is, who is really breaking the law? The people or those who act in the name of the law. >> And that was >> and then from there, okay, and that's when they >> Yeah. I mean, yeah. >> Okay. >> But your officer, uh, is it Sorson? >> Officer Sorson, >> you know, comes up and he's like, you got to be you're trespassed from the building. They don't want you here. And I'm, you know, I I I know this is public property. They can't just trespass me without me committing a crime. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> So, can can this officer believes that this >> and I'll talk to him. We're doing a little followup in there. Red. Um I'm going to go in there, talk to see if there's any EF. Cool. >> Thanks for second. >> Thanks for everything. Can I come in the building right now? >> Do you have an issue with that? It's nice and cool in there. >> Yeah. As long as you're not being disruptive or anything, I got no problem with it. >> Why isn't this door shut? That's Well, >> this is an airport. Yeah. >> Well, I I know, but everybody can come through here. I mean, obviously where doors are locked and it says >> So, get restricted on that. >> Are you concerned about trespassing the guy? >> I mean, I'm I'm concerned Yes. about trespassing in from a city facility. Yes. Okay. A public area. >> Thank you. >> Yes. >> Um those are not public areas. >> No, I understand. >> So, um I if the guy goes away and don't come back, I'm okay with that. >> Okay. uh you you know but it didn't appear as though that was his intention. Yeah. Pretty rare. >> But uh we had him at a Luke Air Force. We have them at our station all the time and stuff and they're there just to >> poke the bear. Okay. So >> and that's that's what they'll always say. >> Okay. In today's day and age, everybody's a news reporter cuz they got to follow. >> Have I got your name? I'm not. >> So, let me >> citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/ police chief. He was just trying to film a public airport, not breaking any laws. If the police had initially understood the law, the incident would have been less time-consuming and labor intensive. The incident represents a potential abuse of power, a violation of the First Amendment and could potentially lead to civil litigation against the police and the city of Glendale. Next, a lone man carrying a legal gun was stopped in the middle of the street. But what has sparked outrage on social media is the way the police tried to take his ID without any legal basis. >> What the are you doing, man? Why is your hand on your gun? >> Dude, that's not even a real gun. >> I know it's not a real gun. >> It Look at it. >> It's not real. >> It's real. >> I'm taking I'm taking I'm taking Thank you. >> Where's your fishing license? >> It's in my freaking in my ID. Yes, sir. When an entire police squad couldn't answer a basic question about state law, a civilian did the unexpected. Quoted every provision like a lawyer on the scene. >> Oh, am I being detained? >> Am I being detained? >> Does it matter? >> Let's Let's be realistic. Do you think I'm going fishing? >> I'm asking a question. >> You can ask me all the questions you want, but I don't have to answer them. >> No, not yet. Do you have ID on you? Uh, I don't answer questions and I don't give ID cuz you're not qualified to get my ID. >> Where are you going fishing? >> Yeah. Come on. Come on. Come on with it. >> Where are you going fishing? >> I'm not Dude, what the are you doing, man? Why is your hand on your gun? >> Dude, that's not even a real gun. >> You think it's not a real gun? >> I know it's not a real gun. >> It Look at it. >> Dude, it's not real. >> It's real. Look at it. >> 22. >> Yeah, it's not real. Just hold on. Hold on. Hold on, man. Hold on. >> Relax. Relax. >> Hold on. Hold on. Yes, sir. >> All right. You to fall under the statute that you claim to have >> 379.354. Correct. I do. >> Or a hunting license. >> I do. All I was doing is carrying my firearm lawfully that called you and then you come out here ready to pull guns on people. Who pulled a gun on me? >> Right. >> Yeah. You youing piece of [ __ ] >> Do you know what that is? 90151. Anybody want to chime up and say what >> I don't have to answer to you. >> 90151 states that if I'm suspected of a crime, committed a crime, or about to commit a crime, I don't I don't have to >> burying >> in a public place. >> Uhhuh. >> You do okay >> have to show proof that you're fishing the whole >> without authority, without basis, they still asked to check the fishing license. And then this man turned the tables with just one sentence that left everyone speechless. Under Florida statute, you do not have the right to to run my fishing license. So, call FWC at this point. >> Call FWC. Call them. >> We can check your license technically. Hey, >> no, you cannot. You have to understand. >> Talk to me. So, listen. I just I just listen to you. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> You fall under the statute that you claim to have >> 379.354. Correct. >> You have to have a valid Florida fishing license or a hunting license. You are not an FWC officer, sir. None of you here are an FWC officer. Correct. >> You're if we can enforce the same law. >> Call I'm not going to do anything. >> I I was just happily walking. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I just want to just so I can pull it up. I just wanted to see how far away I am. I'm a mile away from where I was going fishing. What type of fishing were you going to do? >> And you couldn't answer that question. >> Okay. All right. It >> because you don't understand freaking fishing. What is it? >> I know what it is. Explain it to me. >> It's a It's a freaking crab net, dude. >> Okay. And where's your Where's your bait? >> Body cam? No. Report? No. But an officer revealed something that completely ruined their reputation on YouTube. >> I just wanted to go about my day. >> Be a man. >> Can I shut the up? >> No, you cannot. >> So peaceful. >> I Dude, I I was peaceful the whole way that >> No, you were not. You asked for a bunch of stuff that didn't need to be dealt with. >> Yeah. Shut up. That's the best thing for you. You guys got body cams here. >> It looks like he's got one. >> You're an idiot. And that's >> I'm cuz I'm an idiot. I'm I'm an idiot, right? >> I just said that. >> Yeah. Perfect, man. Hey, welcome to YouTube. >> Yeah. All y'all might want to back off and leave me the alone. Hi, [ __ ] [Laughter] Yes or no? Right now, every one of you are in the commission of a misdemeanor. Because there's a under 379. Why would I know the statute more than you know the statute? Why would I know the statute more than you do? Because I do this [ __ ] across the state of Florida. >> When nine men in uniform had to back down before a citizen who knew the law, the big question was raised. Who is really protecting the Constitution? You know something? It is necessary because you know something. You guys have >> Keep your hand out of my face. >> You guys, every one of >> You're good to grab your your firearm. You're good to go. >> However you want to >> still be walking up in a window. Go straight to your fishing spot. >> I I was on my way to my fishing spot. You dumb [ __ ] Do >> you want me to hold it while you >> You can You can throw it in there. Here. I'm going to I'm going to help you out and and when every one of you leave >> When everyone hold our cars when you arrive, but you >> I know. I I was on my way until you guys stopped me. So in until you feel comfortable, I'm not going to cuz I'm going to reload my >> You understand that, right? >> And I do not want to to be in the presence of fire to police officers so that you end up shooting me. >> I'm I am doing this because I feel I I at this point because of all of this because of all of this, I feel scared to reload my firearm. acting very scared. >> You stupid [ __ ] >> Have a great day. [Laughter] >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983. The individual/organization may be required to pay restitution to the injured party. In severe or intentional cases, punitive damages may be ordered. Additionally, the court may order the losing party to pay the plaintiff's attorney fees and litigation costs. The video was posted to YouTube by the protagonist, the armed fisherman, to expose police abuse and ignorance of the law. It called on viewers to respond, speak out, and offer the possibility of filing a lawsuit under 42 USC SS1983 for violating constitutional rights. Nine guys with guns, one guy with the law. And in the end, only one side knows what they are doing. Hey guys, what do you think about this situation? If you like the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with donations. Thank you very much. [Music]