You want to You want to be involved in my complaint as well? >> Yes. >> You do? Okay. >> just 10 ft there. >> When are you going to answer the question about why he ran my plate? >> I will answer it when I get done investigating the crime. >> So what is nothing suspicious? >> Okay. >> Would you say it was suspicious? >> Yes. >> If I knew over here and you'd be calling police >> Yes. >> coming in and out. >> I was. I'm not denying it. >> The cameraman dares to challenge a symbol of power. The truth about how police behave begins to emerge. >> He didn't break this window. Where's the glass? >> Maybe he didn't break it. >> No, he absolutely did not. >> I'm going to investigate it. >> Yeah, he absolutely did not. >> Okay, so just wait here. >> In the middle of a deserted street, four officers [music] surrounded an unarmed man. >> What is this man's name? >> Identify yourself. >> I'm officer Noble Hall. I'll talk to you right here. I'll give you my >> I need his name and his information. That gentleman just went and ran the plate on my car. No, I >> Stop talking. >> In just seconds, a normal filming session turns into a battlefield between citizens and police. >> If I walk around the rest of the building and there's more damage >> still believe that this is part of this crime scene? >> know yet. >> Where's the glass? Where's the glass? You're full You people are >> As the man was just standing on the sidewalk filming, an officer suddenly ran down his license plate. And from that moment, things started to go too far. >> Just not on the road. I don't want you to get hit. >> Yeah, it's all right. Don't worry about me. You take care of yourself. I'm good. >> What is your badge number? >> I'm going to need you to identify yourself. I'd like a business card from you. >> What is your name and badge number? You can stand out of my crime scene or I'm going to arrest you. >> I'm not in your crime scene. You just ran my plate and I need your ID. >> Okay, go over there. >> Would you identify yourself? Your sergeant told me I could stand anywhere on the sidewalk I want. >> I'm going to arrest you for impeding my >> Sir, I'd like you to identify yourself. Otherwise, I'm going to file charges against you for not identifying yourself. >> my investigation. >> I'm hearing you, Mr. Amos, but I would like you to identify yourself. I need your badge number and I'll be happy >> Stand over there. >> I'm not in your investigation, sir. >> investigation. Where do you Where do you want me to stand? >> you to stand where she is. >> I need you to identify yourself. >> I'm not going to sir. >> You can continue your stuff. I'll talk to >> Sir, I need you to identify yourself. No, I want you to identify yourself. >> What is his name? >> Identify yourself. >> I'm officer Noble Hollow. I'll talk to you right here. I'll give you my name. >> his name and his information. That gentleman just went and ran the plate on my car. No, I >> Please stop talking. >> I'm not interested in you talking. I'm interested in your people acting professional and identifying themselves. He just illegally ran my plate number. I know the law. Okay, you guys are violating my rights. You're violating the law and I need him to identify himself. >> correct? >> Listen, you're wasting my time. >> Okay. >> You have a good day, bro. No, you can you're not you're just talk [ __ ] I don't want to hear it. >> Police refused to identify him, threatened to arrest him, and then pushed him away from the scene, even though he was just standing where the law allowed him to. >> Give me his badge number for my >> I'll find the crimes he committed. >> to You want to be involved in my complaint as well? >> Yes. >> You do? Okay. >> just 10 ft there. >> Officer Amos, I'm asking you for the last time to identify yourself. I need your badge number. >> That's all I'm asking you to do. He's officer Amos. >> What is your badge number? >> His badge number is 5284. >> He can't speak for himself? >> I'm speaking for him. >> 5284. Why did you I'm not in your crime scene. >> We don't know how far it is. >> is over there. I know how far it goes. Your crime scene is over there. Why did you just run my plate? >> Sir, please step back. >> the purpose? I am stepping back. >> Please just back to the front of my car. Just a few feet. >> back. There you go. There you go. Perfect. Now, I need to know why you just ran my plate. Sir, do you not speak? Are you like mute or something? You people are going to be in a mess, dude. You really are. >> I'm person of peace. So >> You're You're used to dealing with people that don't know the rules, huh? >> answer you. >> I would like to know why he just ran the plate on my my >> talking over me. >> I'm going to stop [snorts] talking if that's what you're going to answer. >> That's what I'm trying to do. >> You got 30 seconds. Go. Yes, go. >> Okay, because we can. >> No, you cannot. No, you cannot. You have absolutely no reason. I'm following orders from your sergeant. I stood where he told me to stand. I did what he told me to do. >> Now, he's asking you to walk back. >> See, there's always a rogue officer involved in some Hey, man, you're going to get the rest of your people in trouble here, dude. >> Okay. >> Your people got to follow rules. You have absolutely no legal basis to run my plate. >> Okay. >> How we doing, Johnson? >> What's >> What's your badge number? >> 5306 >> 5306 You hang out with these bunch of fools? >> Yeah. >> That's your problem, isn't it? Bunch of tyrants. That's what you got here in this town, Pocatello. That's why you people got the reputation you have. I drove all the way here from Colorado to find out if it was true and within 5 minutes you proved yourself to be the you see you have the reputation of being >> Sorry you feel that way. >> No, it's not the way I feel. And you have no idea how many people are going to see this video. >> Perfect. >> Yeah, I have about 200,000 subscribers on YouTube. You guys are about to get blown up with your None of your business. >> I'm curious though. >> None of your damn business. I don't care what you are. I'm curious to know why you just ran my plate. >> Because we can. >> No, you cannot. What crime do you suspect me of committing? >> You brought yourself in this situation. >> No, I didn't. I walked up and I asked if I could please walk through and your sergeant said walk around the street and then you started >> Amidst the tension, the cameraman offered to shake hands and start over, but was met with only a cold stare. When power ego wins over reason, what happens next? >> You tell us the crime first, okay? >> Well, I'm I'm over here cuz you invited me to come over here and look at this. >> So, we we got a call here cuz someone is breaking into this building. It looks like he might have broken this window, too. So, when I asked you to step back, that's really what I was doing. I didn't know how big the crime scene was. >> He didn't >> It looks now like it may have come this far. >> This window? >> Yeah. >> You're you're Where's the glass? Where's the glass? >> So, let me >> Where's the glass? You're making up as you go along. Where's the glass? >> Just >> Where's the glass? I listen, I'm no detective and I can tell you right now completely He didn't break this window. Where's the glass? >> Maybe he didn't break the window. Let me investigate >> Yeah, absolutely did not. >> Okay, so just wait here. >> No, this has nothing to do with your crime scene. That's This is old vandalism, obviously. There's no glass, sir. >> Okay. >> Where's the glass? >> You might be right about that. >> I am absolutely right. I'm going to go to the sidewalk. >> Yeah, wait out here. >> I'm going to go to No, you can't keep pushing me further back. You told me to stand in front of your car. That's where I'm standing. You told me to stand in front of your car. >> Okay? >> you going to answer the question about why he ran my plate? >> I will answer it when I get done investigating the crime. >> Well, I'll move when you get done investigating the crime. How Are you going to come back in a minute and tell me to go down to the corner? >> If I walk around the rest of the building and there's more damage there. >> believe that this is part of this crime scene? >> know yet. I don't >> Where's the glass? Where's the glass? You're full You people are [ __ ] dude. It's abs ridiculous. You think you're so intimidating. Right? Tough guy with a badge and a gun. Okay, and so are you. And I have zero respect for you. And that's the reason you people problems in this country you have today. Because this is the way you behave. No, because of the way you behave. You don't have the problems you have because of the way I behave, genius. Get it straight. >> The encounter ended without an apology, but the fallout was only just beginning. Who really crossed the line of the law? >> cleaned up a long, long time ago, years probably. And you know it as well as I do because you've seen that window before. You patrolled this neighborhood. You know what I'm talking about. You're going to be a man of your word and talk to me when you're done? Sounds good. It really is a shame, dude. I mean, just from one guy to another. It really is a shame. It's a shame that this is the mess you people put yourselves in. And then when some citizen goes rogue and does some stupid I mean, you wind up hurt or killed? You sit there wondering why, scratching your heads. Oh, the poor boys in blue. Poor us. Back the >> blue. >> I stand up for the blue. That's right. Okay, I love good cops. I think this country absolutely needs good policing. And I'm not one of those people believing in defund the police. I believe in police reform because you guys have gotten your head so far up and you can't even see what you're doing anymore. That's what your problem is. And you know I'm right. You absolutely know I'm right. And instead of making this situation right before it ends, you won't. Your ego is going to take control of you. >> I'm going to be right back, okay? >> Yeah, we'll see. Is this a crime scene still happening here? Are we allowed to walk down the sidewalk yet? Or what's the story with that? You're still trying to figure out if this glass was broken or What are you What are you trying to figure out? Looks like he's being taken into custody to me and he's not even on the sidewalk anymore. So, we done now? Cuz obviously you gentlemen are not interested in talking. So, can I walk back down the sidewalk to my car? No? So, I can't go to my car? >> You can go to your car, but you can't go around our crime scene. >> No, you told me not to walk in the street. Now, I don't want to walk in the street. What? >> Every once told you that. >> Your other officer told me not to walk in the street. It's all recorded, man. Let's not be ridiculous. >> to get to your car? >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS 1983. Individuals {slash} organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency {slash} police chief. The cameraman said he would file a formal complaint with the Pocatello Police Department. Up next, a man holding a camera in front of the police station and within seconds everything exploded. An officer got too close, questioning, threatening, and asserting, "You are not allowed to shoot here." But what he was about to hear would silence >> Yeah, you're required to give me your shoulder number and all that. >> You're required to give me your name and shoulder number anyway. >> I'm not required to do anything. >> You haven't asked for them. I offered that to you. I voluntarily give you it to you, haven't I? >> Okay, that's fine. Thank you for offering that to me. I will not do the same to you. I will not offer mine to you back by choice. >> Why are you doing this? >> I'm doing what? >> Why are you recording? >> I'm just I'm just all right. Listen, yeah. Honestly, just all right. >> Yeah. >> I started filming and but the way you approached >> me wasn't very helpful. >> What I've done is I've I've I've observed you coming down here and you are leaving police premises. >> Yeah, what? I'm not denying >> That's suspicious to me. >> Why? >> I feel it's suspicious. Why would you want to do that? Have you applied to be able to do that? >> Have I what? >> Have you asked if you can do it? >> I don't need to ask. >> No, I'm not suggesting you do, but I'm saying have you because that would be the done thing. >> Do I have to? >> What I'm suggesting is you put your camera over here. >> Yeah. >> And you're recording police >> Yeah. >> going in and out. >> I was. I'm not denying. >> Hold on, please. You're recording security. >> Right. >> You're recording the walls and Which is why I know that you aren't looking at it with a view, and I'm not saying you're going to do it, with a view to looking at how you can get into there and out of there. >> Okay, that's fine. Uh can I >> Do you understand what I'm saying? >> Can I respond? >> Yeah, that might be that you are not doing that, so I get that. However, it looks suspicious. >> Can I respond? How do you know I am about to do what your brain is telling you that I'm about to do? >> I don't know that. That's why I'm talking to >> Exactly. So, can you go on what you know? >> So, that's what I'm talking >> So, at the moment, do you think that's what I'm going to do? >> I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. I haven't formed an opinion yet. >> All right. >> But I want to know why you're doing it. I would like to know that too. >> Yeah, but unfortunately, I I don't have to tell you that. Why? I would talk I would have told you if you had approached me nicely. The way you approached me was terrible. >> The police officer again evaded making sarcastic and insulting remarks right on camera. In that moment, the image of the protector of justice completely collapsed. >> Do you? >> It's just a matter of >> Why is it so? What do you think I should just lay down to you? My name >> Why? You clearly don't like the police. >> You me? No. Who told you that? I don't like tyrant police. >> I'm not a tyrant. >> Yeah? I love the police. I hate tyrants. There's a tyrant tyranny within the police that we need to, how do you say, weed out. Are you one of them? Good. So, go back to your car. Go to work. >> Now, you're being rude. >> No, I'm not being rude at all. >> Can you stop filming the police? >> Why am I rude? >> You should stop filming. >> rude? Because I asked you to go back to your car? >> Yeah, I think you're being rude. >> I think you're being rude. >> I'm not being rude at all. >> Hi, sergeant. Sorry? Well, I'm just filming. I I'm sure you can guess why I'm filming. You know when you film, what happens at the end of the film? You get a Come on, it's not rocket science. You end up having a video. So, I'm filming to have a video. That's it. Are we done? >> What are you going to do with >> That's kind of my business. You can absolutely ask. I agree with him, but you can't he cannot approach me the way he did. That's the issue that I have. He came so close to me. It's like he looked like he was going to hit me. That's an assault. I feared for my for my safety for one for one second. >> Well, that was never going to happen. I think you're being a little silly. >> How do I know that? >> I'm saying. >> How? >> We use today. >> I I don't know you. >> That's why I'm saying. >> I don't know who you are, so I >> So, how do I know he wasn't going to hit me? >> When superiors show up, the cameraman agrees to cooperate, but on one condition, let that arrogant guy leave first. And from there, the tables turn. >> It's over It was over a long time ago. The moment you approached me the way you did, it was over. I'll be honest with you. That's why I said to you you should go back to work now. Stop wasting taxpayers' money. Take care. >> I think you're being rude. >> I can I can be as rude as I like. I don't have I I have no duty to respect you, officer. Do you understand? Actually, sergeant. No, I can say whatever I want. I say whatever I want, sergeant. Sergeant, stop giving people orders. Come with me, sergeant. You're not suspicious anymore? No? >> The confrontation ended not in handcuffs, but in shame. Once again, the camera proves when power gets out of control, the truth speaks for itself. Up next, a camera, a citizen, and police [music] overreaction. When power exceeds its limits, freedom becomes an excuse for repression. >> No, man, we're not going to arrest you. We're going to ask you to leave peacefully. >> Well, I know, but if I don't but if I Let me just It's a stupid question, but if I stay >> I'll be arrested. >> Okay, then I'm going to like to stay then. >> No, man, we're not going to have you stay up here because this is a business area. >> I didn't say a word to anybody, sir. >> Are you going Are you conducting business? I'm gathering content for a story. >> Who do you work for? >> Independent. >> Independent what? >> Media. I'm in news, sir. I'm gathering Who Who This is what I was saying. It wasn't him. It was >> You say you work for an independent What who is you What who What government issues uh Ma'am, I have no authority who you work for. I want to see. >> Can I ask you a question? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Can I have your credentials that for your free speech? >> That gives you free speech. >> That's right there. That's your free speech. >> Yes, ma'am. That proves I work here. I have the rights to be here. >> That's your free speech. >> A citizen with a camera and the title of freelance journalist walked into the Charleston Airport [music] simply to film a story. But with a camera and the label of freedom of the press, things started [music] to take a turn. >> This guy boarding tickets check into screening baggage and ground I like the grainer in the background, hey. TSA customer services Put your information on your crazy phone. We've got Got the airport aviation authority police. Got the uh the H S, they got customs. There is the police department, I guess it's the airport though. >> Okay, stop filming. >> No, I was just checking out uniform. Airport authority? >> Airport police, yes. >> Okay, okay. >> Yes. >> Thanks. >> An airport employee approached to inquire, but the conversation quickly turned into a debate about press freedom and public space. >> I honestly see a lot of you guys going, I didn't know something happened. >> No. >> Okay, this is normal. >> airport though. >> I got you. Just curious. Let's try the offices. See C administration offices. >> You taking pictures for who? >> I'm sorry? >> Who are you taking pictures for? >> I just myself, free press. >> The Spencer? >> Huh? >> Who are you taking pictures for? >> For free press. >> For what? The free press? >> Yeah. >> Uh and then someone gave you permission to do that? >> Oh yeah, the owners of the building did. >> Huh? >> The owners of the building did. Is this thing working? Okay. >> So, who gave you permission to do that? >> The owners of the building. >> The owners of the building? And who is who? >> Who do you think they are? Do you know who the owners of the building are? >> Well, I do, but I'm saying, can you tell me who it who they are? >> The owners of the building. Who do you think they are? >> a name. >> Uh who do you think they are? >> Well, I know who they are, but do you know who they are? >> You must be getting confused then of who it is. It must be two different people. >> The police stepped in, not because there was a crime, >> [music] >> but because of a camera, and the debate over the right to be present officially began. >> What do you mean it's your policy? >> It's my policy to film anybody who's talking to to That's my company's policy. >> Okay, I'm going to actually have to call the um security cuz you're not allowed to I don't understand why you just >> Is this not open to the public? You're good. >> What's going on? >> 47 dispatch to unit >> I have no idea. And who are you, sir? >> Officer Onfroy. >> Oh, Onfroy. What's your badge number, sir? And what's your name, sir? >> Officer Stewart. >> And what's your badge number, sir? >> 50. >> Oh, wow. All four of you, huh? >> 47. >> Yeah. Uh what's your name, sir? >> Officer Dietrich. >> So what Dietrich? >> Yeah, when you come up to yes, what agency I was part of. >> Yeah. What's your name, sir? >> I'm Officer Moniz. >> Moniz. Okay, nice to meet you. What's your badge number, sir? >> 59. >> Okay. >> Neither one. >> All right. >> So what do you work for like a >> Yeah, for an independent. Is that against the law? >> No, no. It's >> No, I'm you asked me a question, man. >> Yeah. >> So obviously it's a security issue. >> law have I committed? >> When a law enforcement officer asks you >> For what? >> When a law enforcement >> Who am I talking to? Who can I talk to? Am I talking to you or am I talking to them? >> I'm just I'm just so we can have one of us >> Refused to provide identification, citing the First Amendment. The police wanted identification, but had no legal reason to ask for it. A legal clash ensued. >> Do you have credentials for your free speech? >> No. >> I'm just asking. I'm not playing games. You're asking me for credentials. >> Pretty much, yeah. >> Is that Is that what I mean, you're in charge. So if I don't leave right now, I'm going to be arrested? Be careful what you say. >> Be careful. >> Yes. It's constitutionally protected activity. Okay. >> And then you're going to be asked to leave. >> Okay. >> You're going to be escorted off the property. >> No, man. We're not going to arrest you. We're going to ask you to leave peacefully. >> Well, I know, but if I don't But if I Let me just It's a stupid question. >> No, man. We're not going to have you stay up here cuz this is a business area. >> Okay. I didn't say a word to anybody. I'm gathering [music] content for a story. >> Who do you work for? >> Independent. >> Independent what? >> Media. I'm the news. I'm gathering press. >> You say you work an independent >> But who is you What who What government issues the first >> I have no answer to who you work for. >> Reason is not heard. Only orders are repeated. When freedom is seen [music] as an excuse to be taken away, debate becomes confrontation. >> It is a business. It is owned by authority, not public. It's not a >> So, if I don't leave right now, I'm going to be arrested. You say yes and I'm out the door. Okay, then I'm I'm I'm going to film them if I have to ask for permission. >> And you don't take any pictures up here. Have a seat, but no pictures. >> Well, I've already been recording, sir. >> Shut down. >> So, it's soliciting a trespass. They sit there and violate civil rights. This is your chief of police for the aviation authority. This is absolutely disgusting. Civil rights violation. You're shutting it down before the service is even closed. >> Police conduct, there were signs of abuse of power when asking the cameraman to leave a public area without providing a clear legal reason. Just because of a camera, the bank called the police like it was an emergency. But, when they arrived, the truth left everyone stunned. >> Always cool to add new states to the list. So, that's interesting at a bank. Uh they have the lady who's working at her desk uh in the window with her screen facing out towards the street and uh the little name tag thing showing as well. Yeah, that's amazing. I hope they don't try to say anything about filming when they have your screens pointing out towards the street in the windows there. >> Why, they're talking about something to do with us? >> I don't know. It looked like they're all looking at us. >> Oh, uh >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that is I didn't notice that. Yeah, look at that. How they have them to point that out to you here. They have their They'll talk about privacy here. >> Yeah, that's what I meant. The uh They'll probably come out based on past experiences. Not saying these people are going to do anything. Uh it's yet to be seen. Uh but, they'll probably come out and say uh that they have some kind of issue with privacy with us filming out here in public. And uh they have their screen computer screens facing right out towards the street on the public sidewalk huge glass windows behind them. Gonna? >> What are you >> up >> Oh, >> just taking some video. >> This is a bank. So, you're taking pictures inside a bank building? >> I missed the first part of the conversation. >> This is a bank. You're taking pictures inside a bank building. Is there a reason for that? >> Yeah. >> Well, who are you? >> I'm Scott Evans. I'm the president of the bank here. >> Okay. >> Okay? >> Nice to meet you, Scott Evans. >> Yeah. >> How can I help you? >> Well, I'm wondering what you're doing out here taking pictures on the inside of my building. >> Why is that? >> Yeah, it's security. >> Security? >> Yes. >> Of >> the bank. >> Why do you have people's personal information on display in the bank? >> The officers demanded ID, but the auditor's reply left not only them, but even the viewers speechless for a moment. >> Well, is that the reason that you have all the computer screens aimed out towards the sidewalk, visible through a window? >> They shouldn't be. You shouldn't be able to read them. >> Well, then do you want to take a look? >> I'm I'm worried about the security system that we have here. >> So, are you tape taping me? >> I don't understand what you mean about being worried about a security system. >> I think I just called the police. >> You're going to call the police? >> Yeah, I think so. >> Please don't do that. >> Why? >> Why would you call the police? You want to put my life in danger because I'm taking pictures on the sidewalk? You're not a nice man, Scott. You're not a nice guy. You're not a very nice guy. I'd be more worried about turning those computer screens around if that's what your concern is. >> So, like I was saying before they came out, they have all their computer screens facing out towards the sidewalk. Here, here's this one right now. You can see her screen saver with the guy sitting on the motorcycle there. >> Yeah, why would I not be able to stand out here? Yeah, she's >> And they have a problem with people looking in. >> She's got her sitting backwards on her husband's or boyfriend's motorcycle there, kissing him on her computer screen facing the street on a public sidewalk. And then they don't want people to see what's on the screens. >> Literally, yeah. Here's Main Street. Here's the sidewalk on Main Street. And uh these are the windows we're talking about. And the glare is a lot more pronounced in the video. I can see it on the screen. >> He's worried about his alarm system. I've never heard that one before. What does that even mean? >> Yeah, what's what's the issue with your alarm system? >> Like I'm going to take pictures of like what? Where like the motion sensors are or something and then come back and try to avoid them like Matrix style? >> The debate escalates. What is privacy and what is public space? And with just one sentence, the entire conversation flips. >> Ridiculous. >> Oh, lights on here. >> Wow. >> How are you doing, guys? >> Good. How are you doing, boss? Pretty good. What's going on? >> Well, I don't I'm hoping you can tell me. >> I don't >> [laughter] >> I don't know. We just got called here for unwanted, apparently. >> Unwanted? Yeah, I guess uh I don't know. Scott, I guess was his name, the uh president of the bank is who he identified himself as. He doesn't like us taking pictures on the sidewalk. >> Okay. Is it a customer who kind of like a customers don't want to be taking pictures of cuz as they're walking in or maybe or something like that? >> Scott told me he didn't want me taking pictures on the sidewalk because I could be photographing his alarm system to come back and do something later. I have no idea what he's talking about. >> Got you. >> He's got a wild imagination. >> Uh-huh. Well, well, you know how that is. >> No, I really don't. >> Well, I'm >> I honestly don't. >> I think the guy that's going to do that for that purpose is going >> Maybe. >> I'm not trying to secret myself out here, you know? >> surprised though, man. You'll be surprised. >> Can I ask who I'm speaking with just so I know? >> Yep. Officer Hobbs. >> And it's badge number >> 153, right there. Yep. >> A lot of officers. I don't know if that's actually >> it's all It's all of our information on there. >> I don't know. >> Um >> So, that's what you got here. >> Okay. >> Couple guys taking pictures out on the sidewalk. Guy got upset. >> I understand. I understand. Do you guys What are you guys taking pictures for? Is it just for fun or is it for >> Oh, I'm just I'm just out taking I'm not looking to explain myself. >> Oh, you're not? >> No, I'm not. Why Why would I? I have a nice camera and I'm out enjoying a beautiful day taking pictures. That's all. >> I just It's just a >> Yeah, no, no. I'm trying to answer you. I'm just not looking to give you too much information. >> Got you. >> There's no reason to No reason >> Do you guys have any identification? >> I always have identification. >> Can I get some? >> No, I'd rather I'd rather not give it. >> ID'd myself to you. >> Well, you're a public employee approaching me in the capacity of your official duties. >> In the end, instead of forcing the auditor to stop filming, it was the bank that got told to fix their mistake, and the reason left them too embarrassed to respond. >> I heard a couple of times the cameras out on the corner and you're like, "Oh, yeah." >> Oh yeah. Oh my god. That's exactly what we said. We're like, "Literally fantastic." I almost went the other way. >> [laughter] >> It's stupid because you would you know, it's stupid. It really is. And people need to learn that that's not the way to That's not the world I want to live in. >> It's not. But at the same time, I'm not saying you guys are, but what if you guys did have the 110? >> You wouldn't have known it. >> it. Exactly. That's why we're out here trying to figure it out. >> If I had a 110, I'd be out here with a camera. You wouldn't even know I had it. I'd go in there asking them some BS questions about opening an account and film the whole ask to use the bathroom, film the whole place, ask to speak to the manager. >> Maybe maybe we just stopped you, not you guys, but maybe we stopped those people before they had a chance to continue that. >> I think it's a shame that everybody's walking around in fear and anxiety more these days. >> I don't think everybody is. >> Well, they are. Where have you been? >> I don't think everybody is either, but I'll be honest with you. I'll be out Yes, I think majority people are, but if we want to talk about what we think is not I I personally, and this is my opinion because I'm like you, when I'm not working, I'm not doing anything illegal. When I'm not working, I'm just out enjoying. But I also will say though in in return in return No, that's what I'm saying. When I'm not working or even when I am working, I'm not doing anything illegal. But I also don't have an issue with, and some people do, I don't have an issue with identifying myself ever. Ever. >> I have an issue with identifying myself when I am not legally required to. >> I'm never legally required to identify myself ever. >> Nope. It's a courtesy. >> It's a courtesy. >> That we do it. We do not have to provide our name and badge. That's true. >> No, you want to know why that's not true? >> It's for policy. >> You want to know why that's not true? >> Sure. You're wearing your name and badge. >> Exactly. But, no, no, no. The reason No, because everybody wants to record our our badge and name number, but there's like, "Oh, you're assuming I can read." So, I can just tell them, "Hey, it's right here." I'm not trying to explain why I would That's fine. That's fine. >> Yeah, you're fine. Man, I I I It was a soft spot. I understand. >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to US Code SS 1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/police chief. Hmm. No detention, no report, no warning. The officers left, and the auditor continued filming. Up next, the moment he stepped up to the gate, federal agents rushed out to block him, and immediately claimed it wasn't public property. >> Is there a statute? Is there any statute here? There's no law on that. That's a policy. For that, I'll call my lawyer. Yeah, for that, I'll call my lawyer. Look at this guy. This guy's having a meltdown, bro. It's against the law to record. Hey, are you serious? This guy says it's against the law what I'm doing? Come on, bro. It's not looking good for him. It's not looking good for him, bro. Hey, that's past the gate, man. That's not in public That's not here. It doesn't matter. Anything I can see, I can record it. Anything I can see, I can record it. That's how the law works. No, it's not. It's past the gate. Yes, I can, sir. You're an idiot. This guy's an idiot. This guy's is a fool, bro. Immediately, these people these people came up to me and approached approached me immediately when I when >> Before they even finished asking his name, they threatened to detain him on the spot, even though he never crossed the gate. A threat, but based on what law? >> What's up, boss? >> Can I get your name, sir? >> I don't >> Can I get your name? What's your badge number? >> Badge number right here. >> You don't have badge numbers? Can you educate your your buddy? He's not looking too good, man. >> Who is that? >> That guy right there. He's threatening me. He's going to detain me if I pass the gate that I can't record here. And can you just educate him on my first amendment rights, sir? >> Who told you you can >> He said I couldn't record here. He says it's illegal. Look, that statue, I did my research, it's past the gate. I'm on public property. I can record anything I can see right here. All this this grass I have a right. I'm working on a story here on this federal building. And he's having a meltdown. Can you just educate him? >> Oh, okay. So >> Is there an issue here? >> No, no, no, no, no, no. >> Okay, well, he's going like he's all triggered because I have a video camera, dude. >> So, the >> He doesn't know the law. It's crazy. He's a federal agent, right? >> Yeah, yeah, he's a >> So, you know this DHS memo that came out in 2018 and it was renewed in 2019? Anything that I can see in public, I can record any federal installation, any in public property, lobbies, corridors, foyers, anywhere there's public property, I can record any building I want that's federal. Can you explain explain that to him? >> Yeah, I'm >> Cuz I'll pull that law right now on my other phone. He's telling me he's going to detain me if I pass that. I'm not going to pass that. He thinks I am, so he started yelling at me over here. Bro, you're in you're misinformed, dude. I can be anywhere right here. What are you talking about? I'm impeding you're impeding traffic. You were right here. I saw him on camera. We were both speaking, so don't try me with that, man. >> When asked to cite the actual law banning filming, they went silent and dodged the question. Does a wall sign really outrank the Constitution? >> You know, this one thinks either she needs He thinks I need to tell her what I'm doing. I don't need to tell you anything. >> No, I want to know what the reason is. >> You don't need to know. I told you I'm investigating you guys. I see it. That's all I'm doing. This guy's being professional. You're going to look very good in my in my video. So is this guy so far. But you this guy he's You need to educate this guy. >> Uh when I tap you on the shoulder it's going >> No, I know, bro. I didn't I didn't It's because I was amped up because of him, so I felt a little like But what if what if I tap you as a friend? Look. >> Yeah, that was a friendly [laughter] tap. >> You know? So. >> Good thing, man. Good thing. >> Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Go ahead. Hey, see that See that video? He can record me. Now don't erase it cuz anything you you take pictures when you're working on the clock, it becomes FOIA request. Now that's public records. You just created a public record, bro. So now I need your name and I'm going to FOIA request your phone. You know that, right? I don't care. You can record me. If anything video and picture you take while you're working on the money and the and the government, yes. >> go, guys. Let's go. >> Go. Listen to your buddy right here, man. He knows what he's doing, bro. And the other one, you are a tyrant. This is why we investigate you guys. Because of tyrants like you. Get back to work. You're dismissed. Bye-bye. You're dismissed. Get back to work and make sure you buckle up. See? This guy's Can you get this guy and stop looking like So looking horrible. >> Yeah, he's >> No, this is public property. Take it private. >> Okay, great. Then let's go inside to my >> Yeah, go inside. This guy's a tyrant. >> Out of arguments, the agents called for backup, dialing 911 as if there were an active threat all over a camera. >> I know that because we just had a shooting not that long ago. >> I understand that. That's Listen, that's why I'm I them, bro. I'm investigating this base. You know what I'm saying? And that's all I'm doing, taking video right here. And he flipped, he started pointing at that and I'm like, bro, that's if I'm past the gate. I did my research, bro. You know? What's your name, bro? What's your badge number? Yours? Yours? What's her name, bro? That's unprofessional as hell. That's why I record you guys, cuz of unprofessional later cops like you. You're a tyrant, man. You're a tyrant, man. Now I'm going to go file a complaint on that lady. What's her car number, bro? She's freaking rude, dude. 2523. That's why I record the police, bro, cuz of professionalism like that, man. >> And we just wanted to make sure you weren't obstructing traffic. You know how this feels. >> I know, bro. I know, but that's unprofessional of her right there. That's all right, she don't have to give me her name, but I'm going to hold her accountable for that. It might be petty, but it's not petty, bro. To some people it is important. >> All right. >> So, >> Who am I to determine what >> I know, but look, man, you guys being cordial, you know, you you get what you give, bro. You know what I mean? Hey, you're cool and I'm cool. >> Just go through the regular field. They didn't really want to talk to you. I'm just like, why not? >> That's fine. You guys can talk. Exactly. Nah, bro. I'm not with that. I'm not with that, bro, but that's why I record the cops and the government, man, too, because we got a lot of unprofessional tyrants like that, dude. And we got good ones. >> Local police arrived, but instead of making an arrest, they had to explain the law back to the federal agents. A complete reversal no one expected. A simple request for an explanation triggered a brutal chain of events that called the entire system into question. >> [screaming] >> GET ON THE GROUND. HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK. ON THE GROUND. YOU'RE GOING TO GET TASED AGAIN. PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK. Hands behind your back now. >> On March 14th, 2019, Officer Charles Bynum stopped 39-year-old John Efford in what seemed like a routine encounter, but it quickly escalated into an unlawful arrest. >> Sit down. There's no CROSSWALK RIGHT THERE. >> SIR! >> RIGHT NOW. SIT DOWN. Sit down. >> SIR, I DID >> GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. BACK UP. BACK UP. PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK RIGHT NOW. PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND your back right now. Put your hands behind your back. I'm going to taze you. Last time I'm going to ask you. Last time I'm going to ask you. Hands behind your back. Hands behind your back. Hands behind your back. Hands behind your back. Put your hands behind your back. >> Police approached Efford and ordered him to put his hands behind his back without providing any explanation for reasonable suspicion, but that wasn't the most disturbing part. >> Sir, I didn't do anything. >> Hands behind your back. >> Sir, I didn't do anything. Sir, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. >> [screaming] >> GET ON THE GROUND. HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK. ON THE GROUND. YOU'RE GOING TO GET TAZED AGAIN. You're going to get tazed again. Get down. On the ground. On the ground. Put your hands behind your back. Put your hands BEHIND YOUR BACK. >> [screaming] >> GET DOWN. PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK NOW. >> GET ON THE GROUND. >> GET ON THE GROUND. NOW. GET ON THE GROUND. GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR WAISTBAND. ALL RIGHT, he's getting tazed again. I didn't do anything, sir. Put your hands behind your back. Hands behind your back now. Cuff him. You're going to get tased again. Cuff him. >> I'm sorry, man. I I was just trying to go home, man. Please leave me alone. Please leave me alone. >> Stop moving. >> Please leave me alone, sir. Please. Leave me alone. Leave me alone. Please leave me >> When Effort asked for clarification, he was tased multiple times for merely challenging their authority. As if that weren't enough, further misconduct followed. >> Stand up. >> What did I do, sir? >> Walk this way. >> Can you tell me what I did, sir? >> I'm following right there. >> This way. >> Please leave me alone, please. >> Yes. >> Please leave me alone, please. What did I do, sir? What did I do, sir? What did I do, sir? What did I do? >> You're going to jail. >> What did I do? Sir, I didn't do anything. What did I do? I was just trying to go to an interview, please. Please. What did I do? Read me my Look at >> 121 start FD for taser deployment. >> I don't have a record. I don't have a record. I didn't do anything, sir. What did I do? Can you please read me my rights? What did I do? What did I do? >> Yeah, I'm going to go get some force. >> My phone is over there. May I sit down? What did I do? I didn't see anything. What I I didn't know if it was like I I wasn't aware of none of that. None of that. I was not trying to jaywalk again. I promise you. I thought that was okay. I've never been in this situation. Oh my god. I don't know. This is my first time even being out here in my life. And I've never in my life been been mistreated like this. >> Step out of that shoe right here. Step out of your shoe. >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah. >> Down there across the road. >> So, I was just trying to go to an interview. >> Lift his leg for me. >> Lift his leg. >> Lift his leg. >> Hey, quit talking. >> Yes, sir. >> 1405 >> All right. You can sit it back down, buddy. Lift this leg. >> Effort was searched while in a state of panic and felt oppressed. He was even denied medical attention despite injuries sustained from the taser. >> Take a deep breath. Hey. Hey. Take a deep breath. I I I get it now. You're repeating yourself now. Take a deep breath. You shouldn't have fought with us, man. The ambulance is on the way. We'll check it out, all right? Hey. Hey. Take a deep breath. Where else did you get tased at? Come on and step out. Just face the car. You see any other prongs? There's four of them. This prong out. Got you. But I don't know if any of the prongs themselves pulled out. No, he got a bunch of layers of clothes, so it might have not been effective. Is this one in your chest? No. Pull them all out. It's one. Are we going to pull this one out? Yeah, it's it's uh it's not attached to him. That's two. >> In Georgia, excessive use of force can be prosecuted under 16-5-21 for aggravated assault, carrying a sentence of 1 to 20 years in prison. If an officer abuses their authority, they may also be investigated under 16-10-24. >> My eyes hurt. I'm okay. I'm okay. >> All right. >> I don't know where the fourth one is. No, I didn't get the one on the ground. There's one on the ground. You can sit him down, though. This is the fourth. >> I'll let you call your mom in a minute, all right, man? We got to let the ambulance come and check you out. All right? No, man. You got to go to jail today. I understand. You're not under arrest, J 1. I would have got you in there. >> 4319, we're out there. >> I understand. You got >> Relax. >> Hey, I know cuz you're talking fast, you're talking loud, your heart rate's up. I'm trying to get you to take a few deep breaths, all right? >> Charles Bynum resigned during an unrelated investigation and was later arrested for serious charges including false imprisonment and making terroristic threats. Effort is now suing the police department and county government for $10 million, zero cents, alleging civil rights violations. Next, an officer threw a punch at a man just because he [music] was sitting on the subway. Not arrested, but blocked. Not detained, but not allowed to leave. Is this a way to skirt the law and nullify citizens' rights on public property? >> We have an ordinance. If you look at the ordinance, it's right there. Right there, look. You cannot film. >> Let me see. Ordinance 58 >> You can film upstairs, but when you come into the lobby, you cannot film. >> Well, then I'm going upstairs. >> You need to turn off your camera. >> I'm going upstairs. >> I'm asking you. You need to turn off your >> Can you just let me go upstairs? It's on the first floor, right? >> No. Well, then if he goes upstairs, he has to turn off his camera. >> It's ordinance. >> Sure. I'm not I'm not turning off my camera, sir. >> but then you can't you can't go upstairs. >> Oh, I can go upstairs. >> Okay. >> What's the big deal? He says you can record it in the meeting, but I can't record on my way to the meeting. All right. This is ridiculous. Here's our friendly reminder that the government is always recording us. Even though it always seems to be an issue when we the people record them. This guy's doing too much. This security guard is doing too much. And now they're keeping me from the meeting. Yeah, no problem. I have no problem I have no problem talking to him. It's just the meeting starts in 5 minutes. They don't run on time. Hey, so how are you? >> Hey, what's up? >> Sergeant? >> Yeah. >> Hey, my name is Shawn. What's your name? >> Just give me 1 second. Just give >> Oh, yeah, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. I'd just like to go up to the meeting. That's it, you know? Security guard is talking to the sergeants over there. The only reason I started recording right when I did was because the security guard said I walked through the metal detector. He says, "I'm going to need to see Do you work for the county?" I said, "No." And he said, "I'm going to need to see some ID." >> You need to register 24 hours in advance just to hold the mic. A golden rule or simply a legalized weapon to silence the public? >> Reyes, I'm an independent journalist and activist. I was Excuse me. I I was asked to speak by the family services employees that are being mistreated. They asked me to come down here. I I came here to sign up to the meeting today and I was told that I couldn't sign up. That is an unreasonable chairman. That is an unreasonable restriction on the first amendment. That is That is an unreasonable restriction on the first amendment. I was asked to come here. I was asked to come here by people that work in this government that are being that are being that are So, they are being mistreated. They are not being paid. They asked me to come here. They're working in poor They're They're asking They're They are asking to be working in good working conditions without mold, without without pests. They're asking to get their back pay. They asked me to come over here and speak to each and every one of you. I tried to sign up earlier. It is unreasonable restriction to make somebody 24 hours in advance sign up. It is an unrestricted It is an unreasonable restriction on the first amendment. I would like to speak. I have a right to >> The moment he speaks, security immediately surrounds him ready to escort him out. All because his words weren't scheduled in advance. >> I have tried to sign up. I Not 24 hours in advance. I tried to submit my name to speak. I I tried to submit my name to speak. They would not allow me to speak. >> Because you Because you're taking my property. >> Sir, I would like to speak. >> I understand, but you've been asked to leave and you haven't signed up for the meeting. >> I tried to sign up earlier today. It's an unreasonable restriction on the first amendment. Right, but in 2 weeks >> Unfortunately, you can't >> This is This is something that's going on right now. >> Truth's turn to speak and you can't just overstep his ability to >> They can't just overstep my first amendment right to speak. I have a right to speak at this meeting. I'll speak at the end, but I want to speak. >> Well, right now it's Mr. Truth's >> I can't speak, Mr. Chairman. I can't speak. I tried to sign up today. They wouldn't allow me. And now you're surrounding me with law enforcement. I I was asked to come here by the Family Services employees. >> It's Mr. Truth's turn to speak. It's >> If I don't leave, are you going to remove me? >> I'm not going to remove you. I'm asking you to please sit down and let Mr. Mr. Truth have his time with that his 3 minutes that he signed up for. Thank you. >> Mr. Chairman, I would like to speak. >> Sir, you have to follow the procedure. >> The the the procedure is unreasonable. Why why can't I just speak about what's going on in the Family Services Department? >> Thank you. >> This is ridiculous. Go ahead, Leroy. Do what you do best, man. This is ridiculous. Drove all the way out here to speak and I can't speak. >> If the motion would allow you to speak, but what you did was show them the middle in front of 17 people who signed up ahead of time. So, that was two wrongs don't make a right. >> And then the momentum shifts. The crowd rallies behind him. The procedure is challenged and a warning of a constitutional lawsuit is delivered right in the middle of the public meeting. >> We're in between New York, Florida, and I have never come across such a rule where you have to in writing submit a request to speak. This is a public meeting. Anybody who shows up should speak. I mean, I get it. You hold it at 4:30, so people who are working can't come here and address you on their issues. You're making it a lot harder for people to You should do it at 7:00. Really, when people have time to come. You need You need to be less restrictive on the First Amendment. You know, I under Thank you for making the motion for me to speak. I would like to address my interruption earlier. It's to bring awareness. I was never going to just derail the entire meeting. I I eventually walked off. It's to bring awareness to this unconstitutional ruling because if somebody had a problem in Hudson County today and they wanted to come speak to their elected officials today, they couldn't. They would have to wait. They couldn't address their their concern that they had earlier in the day because of this rule that it makes no sense. I I you know Restricting the First Amendment needs to be reasonable and I don't see how it's reasonable in any way. So, I will be filing a lawsuit for that for this this rule that you guys have to get it changed. Um I want to say to each and every one of you, you know, you guys coming out like this, you guys supporting, uh you know, you guys supporting each other and going on strike and doing what you're doing, it's really respectable what you guys are doing and I that's why I'm using my time. >> Peaceful protest. >> Peaceful peaceful Okay, a peaceful protest. Excuse me. I I know a lot about peaceful protest, but I respect your peaceful protest, you coming together to confront your elected officials here because it's important. And you know, a lot of the times they look like they're not listening and they're eating and I saw somebody eating, I saw somebody, you know, looking away. You know, it's important to address them, but it's more important when it's time to vote >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS 1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/police chief. The security forces obstructed the right to record and speak publicly violating the First Amendment and exposing themselves to civil liability for abuse of authority. Up next, a person stands in a public place with a camera and just minutes later, the police arrive. >> We've got a call that you're here. >> Oh. Interesting. >> Yeah. You're talking to people, so just hear you're spattering people, so So, I wanted to know what's going on. >> I I have no idea about that. I No. >> Yeah. So, what's up? >> Not much. What's up with you? >> Nothing. >> How you doing? Can I Can I just get your name and badge number? >> It's uh Sergeant Mark and it's 703. >> Sweet. Awesome. >> Yeah. Can I see your something on you? And you're not going to give me it, right? Just want your ID. Just want to verify who you are. That's >> Why? >> Just because you're standing here and people are calling complaining about you. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Is that normal protocol? People are >> I just want to know what's going on and who you are. That's all. I'm not trying to Just trying to figure out who you are. >> All right. >> That's all. >> All right. I understand. >> So, what are you doing? Just >> Can I Can I just get the CAD number before I I'll you know, we talk about everything afterwards as long as I can just get the CAD number for the call and everything. >> I don't know the CAD number is. I haven't been The one hasn't been assigned >> On the computer, yeah. >> Yeah, it hasn't been assigned. >> No, there's been no call number assigned after you showed up. >> that I'm aware of. Yeah, not that I'm aware of. >> of. You want to just radio over to dispatch and see if there was one? >> over. It was absolutely. >> All right. Awesome. Sweet. >> But, I can get definitely get that for you if you want to reach out to the station. I can get you a CAD number and a copy of whatever whatever is going >> Sweet. Awesome. That'd be great. >> But, so just Is there something Did you have an issue with them here or something? Is that why you're here with me? >> No. No issue at all. >> And no reason why you're here? >> I mean, I don't think anybody does anything without a reason, no. Right? >> that's why I'm asking. That's why >> Well, what Why does the why matter for you? I'm just curious. >> Well, I just want to know why you're here. If if if you're bothering people that are coming in here, then I want to know is there a reason for that? >> No. I'm not I already told you I'm not bothering anybody. >> Right. That's not what I'm being told. That's why I'm asking why you're here. You got Obviously there's There's your side of the story and their side of the story. >> There you go. You probably You should probably start with the calling party. >> Sure. Sure. But, you're standing in the roadway. You're the first person I made contact with, right? >> It's funny. You're You're also parked right in the roadway, you know, without your without your emergency lights on, right? You know, sitting in the middle of the road. >> Exactly. >> No crime, no victim, yet the police immediately demand ID. Is this an investigation or a test to see whether a citizen will bow to an unfounded order? >> the story is so I can collaborate the stories. Does that make sense? >> Not Not entirely. No. >> Why? So, I mean, what what if I was uncomfortable with you coming up and speaking with me? Should I just call the police here or >> Well, I am the police, but state police is on their way and you can >> All right. Well, tell you what. Tell you what. Am I being detained or anything like that? So, it's a consensual conversation? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> All right. The consent ends here, then. >> Okay. >> Take it easy. You're dismissed. All right. >> What a nice day. >> That's not >> No, it No, it is No, it is. That is. >> No, you don't I am But, I am going to talk to >> Go ahead. Go for it, man. Thank you. >> So, yeah. >> Appreciate that. Thanks. And they need to go all the way around the corner of the building. This guy is going to try to not give me a CAD number here, for sure. >> When he asked, "Am I being detained?" they went silent. One single question was enough to shatter the entire facade of false authority. >> I mean, obviously you know obviously you know you're being trespassed from the property, so you can >> I do? >> You are being >> Hey, man. How you doing? My name is Trooper DeRouge. >> Oh, not too bad. Nice to meet you. Can I Can I just get your badge number as well? >> Yeah. 5369. >> Sweet. Awesome. Nice to meet you, guys. And what was yours? >> Trooper DeRouge, 505. >> DeRouge. Nice to meet you. >> You'll get trespassed from here, but if you're on the public road, you get [ __ ] from here. >> Awesome. It So, am I like that's You guys do that in paperwork or is that just a verbal trespass or anything? That's how you That's how you guys do that? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Really? Okay. >> So, if you step back on this land on the grass right there, we'll come back and lock you up. >> Anything. All right. If anybody goes 5 miles an hour over the speed limit over here, I'll make sure to give you guys a call. >> Absolutely. >> All right. >> out to grab them. >> So, can I You guys You guys got called here, right? By Was it by Like, did you call for backup or did they call you as well? Or what what was going on? >> They Yeah. >> Dispatch. Okay. Can I just get the CAD number for the call just so I know >> We We don't use their CAD system. >> Okay. >> Their dispatch reaches out to us. >> Okay. So, I'd like the report from your CAD. Your CAD. >> I said, you can request that from the police department and I can get that to you. >> I'm just asking you right now. I'm just asking you. >> have it. >> You don't have it. Right, it doesn't say it on your computer as you're pulling up. No. So, you just pull up to random places and hopefully there's a call there, right? >> and told me to come here, so that's where I >> Interesting. That's a very believable story you got there, my friend. Hey, thank you guys for being professional at least. >> All right, just calm down. Hey, if you're not giving us a hard time, just like I said, just don't go back on the property, man. I mean, you're free to stand here, film what >> that. There you go. >> Just Just film from here and then just don't harass people as they go in and out. >> as long as you guys don't harass anybody, I guess I won't have to put anybody under citizen's arrest or anything like that. >> When they couldn't force an ID, they switched tactics using trespass to push him off the property, forgetting it was still a public boundary. >> form you'd like to put together, and then if you'd want to print me out some copies like you said you guys do, then that'd be fantastic. If you can I'll come up and pick it at the station pick it up at the station afterwards if you'd like. All right? Sweet. Awesome. So, you're going to write that formal trespass and I'm going to come and pick it up at at the station. It's going to have the CAD number and everything on it, right? That's what I'm hearing. >> citizen. >> From officer Officer Mark? >> Mark. >> Sergeant Mark. Sorry, sorry about that. Hey. I hope you guys have anything else today or >> No. Do you have anything else? >> No, I think I'm all set. >> Have a good day. >> All right. Take it easy, guys. Thank you for being professional. I appreciate it. Hey, I'll give one to you, too. We'll end it cordially, all right? Hey. >> All right, see you guys. >> All right, take it easy, man. You have a good day. >> Have a good one. >> Hey, you want that number now? >> Yeah, please. That'd be great. >> You ready for it? >> I'm ready. >> It's 25-64-612. >> Hey, thank you very much. I I appreciate you at least trying to end it professionally. >> like I said, it didn't come up and it's up now. There's always a >> So, is that out of the ordinary that it didn't come up before you got here? >> No. >> No, but sometimes it does come before you get there. >> Well, like I explained to you before, it's dispatch sends me to the call. >> Right. >> So, when I'm coming here >> What I'm saying is at that point when they send you to the call, let's not both pretend that there is no call number or CAD number, >> [clears throat] >> cuz there is. >> There No, well, then there I don't I don't know that. I'm not in dispatch. So, dispatch creates the call, but when whoever calls, they automatically call me to that to the location. So, when I'm I was right down the street. I was here pretty quick. They might not have updated in time. That's why >> Okay. Hey, you know what? I'll I'll take you I'll take your word for it. I Seeing as how you came up to me and you were very professional about it at the end, I'll take your word for it, all right? >> and again, like it looks like it was generated at 12:54. >> All right. In the end, the legal pressure forced them to back down. The CAD number had to be released, and their show of authority turned into compliance. An arrest with no clear evidence, no recorded footage, and a person detained for days without a valid reason. Could this be an abuse of power? >> Just us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, what the [ __ ] is this? >> What? >> I didn't I didn't do anything. >> The incident began on February 20th, 2023 in Harford County, Maryland, when officers spotted a Dodge Charger that they claimed had run a red light and was driving recklessly. Upon approaching the vehicle, police immediately ordered the driver to exit and placed him in handcuffs. The man repeatedly insisted that he was not the one who had fled, but officers proceeded with the arrest. >> Hands behind your back. >> What are you doing, bro? >> Put your hands behind your back. >> What is happening? >> Put your hands Stop. >> I'm not doing anything. >> Hey, what are you doing, bro? >> Just us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, what the [ __ ] IS THIS? >> WHAT? >> I DIDN'T I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. BRO, what did you pull me over doing? Where'd you get Oh, damn, man. >> Same car, same time. Do you have anything on you? >> No. >> Don't want to pull Where are your ID at? >> My wallet's in the car right there. >> You can open it. >> I can make you take it. >> Take them off. >> Am I under arrest? >> Reckless driving, yeah. Fleeing and eluding. >> Fleeing and eluding. >> I wasn't fleeing anybody. Who was I fleeing from? >> Soon as I turned around, you took off, went around the car, Hanson Road. >> Which car are you talking about? >> Camera >> So, what's going to happen? >> You're going to go to jail. >> And then what? >> I don't know. It's going to be up to them. >> Is that a felony? Is that a felony? >> Huh? >> What about my vehicle? Can I call somebody to come get >> Nope, it will be towed. Have a seat. Have a seat. >> Can I call somebody? >> Have a seat. >> One of the biggest issues in the case was that the police had no video footage to support their allegations. One officer admitted that his camera was not turned on during the pursuit because he was focused on the suspect. This made the case ambiguous and lacking in legal grounds to convict the driver. >> This guy walked down apparently. Well, well, first he's a little bit ahead of me, but he's coming up to Hanson 24 right here. Blows through the light, Jordan had to slam on his brakes, cut him off, flying up toward me now. So, we both turn around at 1080. >> All right, that's what we were saying. >> We spotted him in the parking lot here. We got behind him, he was trying to loop around the but I was able to come in quick enough where he's like, "Okay, I'm I'm screwed anyway." Tinted windows, we can't see him. So, what what we I saw the door open up. I got out of the car. I I don't think I'll I'll have to articulate that, and I'll do a supplement. Once we got him under control and cuffs, that's when I turned this off cuz I'm not worried about this right now. I'm concentrating to make sure everything like that. >> The only >> thing we already inventoried the car, nothing of value. >> He doesn't even live over here. What's he doing here? >> Well, I think he's got Otter Creek Road mail with grandma. I think it's two brothers that live with grandma. I think I think he was the one I um we read him Miranda and tried to like question him like if something happens. But at this point he's going to jail for reckless driving and a couple other serious traffic offenses and fleeing but um so he he had maybe 20 seconds on us that he might have circled around at Park Lawn so I want to know where the parents work cuz him and Biggs are him and McCusker, him and I are going to canvass these trash cans on the way back cuz he was over there. >> After detaining the driver, officers continued searching for evidence to support their claims. They conducted a search of the vehicle hoping to find incriminating items such as drugs or weapons but found nothing suspicious. One of the officers appeared surprised by the results noting that the car was completely clean with no signs of violations. >> I got the boy Cody who was going to get away. >> I But why would he pull in here? >> Um I guess he thought he could hide. >> Got it. >> Well, I I looked all the ways. He could only went this way. He was right there when I spun the corner. >> I mean you got um reckless is a rest full offense and you the fleeing and eluding Something ain't right, bro. You know what I mean? >> That that is not right at all, bro. >> That's a simple Just 10-43 that Matthew Morgan subjects to 10-95. He's got Otter Creek Road mail over here. You heard? It's somebody else's name on it. All right, he's got Michelle McPadden. I think I think this is why I recognize him. Yeah. I saw I saw it going down. >> puzzle. You was right there. I saw you coming. I saw you >> Well, I was whipping around before you even, you know what I mean? Cuz I seen what was going down. I mean the car is clean, bro. It just don't make no sense. >> During a personal information check, police found some letters addressed to another person inside the vehicle and began questioning the driver about his residence. They suspected he might be linked to a previous family-related incident but could not provide any evidence to establish a connection between him and that case. >> Are you living on Otter Creek? With grandma? You got a brother over there, too? Or am I thinking of somebody different? >> Otter Creek Road. >> Otter Creek Road? Okay. I might be thinking of somebody different then. What's the mail in the back of your car for? You got mail in the back of your car? >> Wait, that's my family, man. >> Okay. Who's Michelle? >> My mother. >> Mom? Does she live over there? Is that who I'm thinking of then? >> I don't know who who you're thinking of. >> Are you living Do you have a brother? >> I I have I have about five brothers. >> Did you have a brother that you're living over on Otter? >> Living. >> What did you type in? What did you type in? >> I'm 10-9 in the total vehicle. >> What did you do? >> Do you remember what you typed in before? Just type uh either just the word flee or elude. >> The man was detained for 3 days without clear evidence of reckless driving or fleeing. He was not allowed to call anyone to retrieve his vehicle before it was impounded. Ultimately, after being placed under house arrest, he was only fined for running a red light while other charges could not be substantiated, raising concerns about the legality of the arrest. >> Have you done this before? >> Maybe twice. There'll be multiple times >> All right. >> once all said and done. I got to leave. >> What's that? You're a funny guy, man. >> I don't have anything on me. No weapons or anything pointy, no nothing illegal. >> All right, sir. Which one you want first? >> Right, please. >> All right. >> That's You know what I mean? That's my >> No, you're fine. >> I got I got a wallet in there, phone, >> If an investigation determines that the officers violated the law in this case, they could face charges such as unlawful detention, abuse of authority, and civil rights violations. If these allegations are proven, the officers could be suspended, [music] terminated, or even criminally prosecuted, potentially resulting in jail time. Additionally, if the victim files a civil lawsuit, the police department could be required to pay compensation amounting to hundreds of dollars for the officer's misconduct. When a camera is treated as a threat, it's no longer about filming, it's a warning sign that citizens' rights are quietly shrinking. Everyone, what do you think about this situation? 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