Finally, we get to see somebody higher than a sergeant. What's going on? >> I don't know. >> Look at this, guys. Look at this, guys. >> He talks to me behind my ear. >> Oh, you need to surround me. Okay. Okay, then. That's all you need to tell me. You need to surround me. >> A single camera outside the post office quickly turned into a test of authority as police pressured a citizen who knew the law. And every step beyond the line could come with a costly legal price. Why? Why are you standing here and why are you filming on port property? >> Well, it's public property. >> It's not public property. >> I'm not going to talk to you. Okay. I'm not going to talk. >> What's your name? >> I'm not giving that to you. >> You're not going to give us your name? >> No universal. >> A simple recording at the port suddenly turned into a tense test for police as a citizen who knew the law forced them to face the line between protecting security and breaking the law. Everything started with a camera pointed at the post office, but the arrival of a vehicle instantly changed the atmosphere. No one clearly explained what he had done wrong. Yet, an order rang out as if something was being hidden. >> Can I help you? >> Say what? So, who are you? >> And you give people orders. >> How about you make me? I'm in public. Look at this guy. Shut your phone off. That's >> what I'm talking about. People think they can come out of People think they could come out to public and give orders. Who is this guy? Mailman What seemed like a simple order to turn off the camera quickly escalated when police were called to the scene. But instead of clarifying the truth, the rapid questions and the way they surrounded the cameraman made everything start to look like pressure. Heat. Heat. This police officer just came rushing for this call. Let's go back so he won't be driving around looking for me. I bet you he'll park illegally right here on the side of the road. >> We sure did. You were very nice. >> So, what's going on today? >> Just videotaping from public. Postal service um guy wants to tell me to turn off my camera. >> You guys like both like don't surround me so I can get a clear picture. >> Tell us what to do. Okay. >> All right. Me too. Me too. >> All right. This is what Listen to me. Okay. Not want you going inside the pocket at the private property. >> I know that. >> So why were you in there? >> I wasn't in there. I got video proof. What are you doing now? >> I'm just walking, taking pictures. Did >> you talk to the guy? Did you talk to the guy? >> They approached me. >> He said, "Turn your camera off." What's his problem? >> You just don't understand. They don't know who you are. >> And I don't know who they are, so they don't need to tell me what to do. >> They don't They're not telling you what to do. >> When the original reasons were no longer enough to push the man out of a public place, the situation suddenly shifted into more dangerous territory. And at that moment, the police chief's arrival turned the pressure into an unpredictable confrontation. >> Well, you swear that you were going to protect the Constitution of the United States. Do you know that we have freedom of press in the United States? >> Okay. So, what's what's the problem? Oh, that I mean, yeah, you guys can come and ask me, but ma'am, do you respect and love the Constitution of the United States? Oh, sad this way. Captain, gentlemen, I was telling you about before. >> Are you the captain? >> Finally, we get to see somebody higher than a sergeant. What's going on? >> I don't know. >> Am I Are you >> Well, let me tell you. But what's going on with you? >> Tell me what's going on. >> Okay, but why are you >> Tell me what's going on. >> Okay, look, I'm going to keep my hands out. I have no weapons. If you want to search me, that's fine. But I don't have any weapons. or anything. >> Well, okay. Say, search me. Search me. I'll let you search me. >> That's fine. I'm not doing anything illegal. You can search me all you want. >> Captain to go on. >> I have an appointment with with uh Mr. Perry coming up. He knows me. >> When there was no longer a clear basis to keep the man there, the officer's attitude did not calm down. It shifted into a different kind of pressure. And what happened next made the line between law enforcement and abuse of power more questionable than ever. >> You need to what? What's what's wrong with >> what's this guy? My name is Enelmo Morales. All right. Since you're you're you're harassing me right now. You're not giving me >> How am I harassing you? >> Look at this guys. Look at this guys. >> I'm talking to you. Just talking to you. >> He talks to me behind my ear. Huh? >> Oh, you need to surround me. Okay. Okay, then that's all you need to tell me. You need to surround me. >> A public photographer. >> Someone might harass me. So, your name is Enelmo Ramos. >> Morales. My name is Enelmo. >> Morales? No, I'm not Ramos. >> Okay. What's your deal? >> Look, I'm going to give you my information. I'm going to cooperate with you guys. >> Okay. What's going on? >> Because I don't want to go to jail because you look dangerous. >> What's going on? Do you have any idea? >> I don't. You don't have any? >> No, but I want to speak. I want to speak to >> He's in charge. >> Okay. So, what what law have I broken? >> You got the highest cop right here. >> What law? The highest cop is Mr. Perry. >> And he knows who I am. >> I say right here. >> Tell me what's going on. >> I'm just videotaping from public, sir. >> Okay. Okay. >> I feel in fear right now. >> Yes. >> They don't need to fear a camera. I saved $1,000 to buy this camera. >> They don't know why. You have to >> They don't need to know. It's my own purpose. Huh? Do you go >> Do I go around asking people what are they doing? They approached me >> and and and >> your captain is going to be online. What's going on, Captain? Why are you doing this? >> Why are you Why are you doing this? >> I'm talking to you because I want to find out exactly what what you're doing. Okay. People calling. Okay. So, tell me, are we going to continue this? What's going on? How long are you going to do this? >> Do I have a time limit to take pictures from the sidewalk? >> I'm just I just want wondering how long you going to do this. >> Do you love and respect the Constitution of the United States? >> So, do you should know we have freedom of press in the first amendment of the United States? >> I feel >> we're not talking about the other ones. We're talk we're talking about the first amendment. I'm practicing my first amendment right. >> How many amendments do we have? >> I'm practicing the first [music] amendment right and and this is very this is very unprofessional. >> This is very unprofessional. That's the bill of rights. >> This is very un >> amendments in the bill of rights. >> This is very unprofessional. >> Constitution talk about >> Why are you harassing me? >> I'm not harassing. >> Am I free to go or am I >> You're free to go. >> Okay, I'm free. I'm free to go. I'm free to go. The confrontation seemed to be over when the man started walking away. But behind him, the pressure quietly followed. And in the very next moment, the story shifted from free to leave into a troubling sign of questionable authority. >> And batch number, sir. Can I get your name and batch number? >> 14. That's fine. That's fine. >> Why are you following me, man? That's all I wanted. But you don't have to f >> Okay, man. But you have a gun and I want you to stay away from me. >> You have a gun. >> But look at this guy is following me. >> Leave me alone. Leave me alone. >> All I asked was for your badge number because I'm going to complain on you and you harassing me. I'm going to sue you. I'm going to sue you. I'm going to sue you. And I'm going that way. I'm going that way. Are you going to allow me to go that way or are you going to harass me? Are you Can I go that way? Can I go that way? >> May I go that way? >> Thanksgiving. >> I hope you I I hope you have a great Thanksgiving, too. You >> too. I'm wishing you a great Thanksgiving. >> Did Did you know that you work for the public? Why are you treating me like that, man? There's no reason for you to be like that. >> Just take off. They're telling me to leave from the public property. I can do whatever I want, but you guys are harassing me, so I'm definitely leaving. >> I'm leaving. >> I'm leaving. No, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. >> Question for you. >> Just a question. >> Then ask me. >> But But why do you have to You see what I'm saying? I'm in fear of you, man. >> I'm in fear of you. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. >> No arrest, no handcuffs. But the story still left a reminder that public authority is only worthy of trust when it is used to protect people, not to make a citizen who knows the law walk away in fear. Next, a camera appeared at the port area, triggering tense claims about private property. But when the cameraman began questioning the boundaries of public authority, the call to police turned the situation into a true legal test >> on many occasions. So, well, there I am. >> Wrong again. Aberdine is here. >> How's it going, Corporal? >> Hey, excuse me, sir. >> Yeah. >> You step on over here. >> What's up? >> You step on right here. >> Why? >> Why? >> All right. So, you're being detained cuz you're trespassing. Okay. They've asked you to leave. >> They have never asked me to leave. >> Okay. Not a single human being, I've got it all recorded, has asked me to leave. Not one. >> Not one. >> No. Nobody's asked you to leave. >> No. >> Not a single time. >> So, we will we will clear that up then. >> Yeah. Plus, this is >> I was I was told [music] by security. >> No, this is public access, by the way, too. >> It's restricted area past that. This is a public road. >> So, this is not public property. This is a public >> belongs to the port of the >> well. Even if that's the case, not a single person who's asked me to Oh, I said you. >> Um, not a single person who's asked me to leave. Not one. >> Okay. >> Now, I've had plenty of people asking me what am I doing. >> Working on getting some photo and video of the place. >> Okay. All right. Well, we'll clear that up then. We'll clear that up. >> I was I was advised that you were told to leave. So, >> no. Never was I asked to leave by a single person. >> The moment police arrived, the story only became more tangled. There was no clear sign of trespassing. Yet, the pressure to leave kept growing. And before anything was clarified, a port employee stepped forward with a question that officially ignited the confrontation. >> See, no, you're not being trespassed. They're just asking you to leave the area. Okay. You're you're currently on their property. They're asking you to leave. >> Not a drone. >> Okay. >> Obviously, I'm not controlling it unless my GoPro has magical professor. >> Right. I see that you I see that you're not controlling the drone in any way. Okay. Someone you know though nearby is controlling. >> Look, all I'm saying is that is not mine. I don't own it. I'm not controlling it. >> Right. Do you know anybody that might be? >> That's all I'm saying. I don't control it, own it, operate it. That's all I'm saying. >> All right. Do you mind uh providing your name? >> I do. >> You do? >> Okay. All right. >> All right. Could you please leave the property? >> Yeah. Now, I just want to double check. I understand what you guys are doing here. >> You're saying this public access road [music] is not a public access road. This road is private property. According to the Grace Harbor County parcel search, it shows up as this is part of the port's property. >> Okay. >> I just want to point out just for future reference because it would be helpful. I'm sure you guys can appreciate this. There is nothing that demarcates this as private. Nothing. It doesn't say like, you know, a lot of cities have like blue or sometimes green signs for streets and white is public, green or blue is private. It'll say private on it or something like that. It would be helpful >> to a if you guys actually put up some signs that for example right there very clear sign right says restricted area never gone past it because it's very clearly marked I'm not going to go on there it's a marble one place not going to go there >> but if you're telling me >> that under threat of arrest if I don't leave >> that because this is private property I leave you >> okay >> is that what you're saying >> yeah so fair enough >> so they ask you to leave they you know please And if I don't, I'd be arrested for trespass. >> No, as long as as long as you leave, we don't have to um, you know, confirm with them if that's what they want to do. But all >> the warning to leave had just been given, but instead of ending the situation, it pushed the confrontation in an even tenser direction. When citizens rights are placed under pressure, the real question becomes, is this security or just a way to force someone who knows the law to leave? >> Sir, that so this gentleman needs security. They're asking you to leave out to the gate, the property out there to the roadway. They're asking you to leave. If you were to come back, they would pursue uh to trespass you and then we would ask for your name. You can deny our name, but then we would tell you, well, you need to stay off the property. >> Sure. >> And then we would say if you come back, then you're subject to arrest. >> I totally get that. And I look, Sergeant, and and officer, I appreciate your forth being forthcoming and straight up about what's going on here. Uh, 2A, look, I've got to get the photo and video that I do, but if you're gonna tell these Aberdine police officers that you want me trespassed, I'm going to do exactly what [music] you said, which is I won't provide a name. I'll be trespassed, I'm guessing, for a year, or was it forever? >> I I have no idea, sir, at this point. >> But the the thing is is you're just going out of your way, and I don't think you understand it. I appreciate that you love the Second Amendment. I do, too. But I think you hate the First Amendment >> and I think you're a little angry about it and whatever. That's right. That's your first amendment, right? But we're we're going to leave, but you need to leave first, sir. So, we have to have you leave. >> Yeah. Okay. So, I am being trespassed then? >> No. They're just asking you to leave. >> I would like to just go with the trespass warning >> back. Then they would trespass [music] me. >> Yeah. I'd like to get the trespass warning then cuz I I what I'm trying to do is get something that I need to get and this angry man right here is trying to offend my liberties to get photo, video, and audio of what I'm lawfully allowed to do on port property. Are you asking it if to see what our trespass notification forms look like? Is that >> No, no, no. You can also, as you know, I'm not trying to be condescending. >> He just wants to be trespassed. >> Want to be trespass? >> Yeah. So, if you just say, "Hey, you're you're I'm giving you an oral trespass warning. If you come back, you'll be arrested. That way, I can seek my resolution with the port." And you specifically, >> I'm assuming you're going to stay here until you're formally trespassed. I would like to get a formal trespass warning. >> Well, oral or written, but >> I don't want I'm not going to provide IDs. I'm Am I being trespassed? >> He's going to confirm. >> He's going to confirm. >> That's right. Look, I got to say, I really appreciate your guys's demeanor and professionalism. >> Before the pressure could even settle, a new argument was thrown in, suddenly shifting the direction of the dispute. And when the man began pushing back with the law, the port side was forced to face a line that was much harder to avoid. >> Hello, sir. >> Hi there. I'm the port's attorney. >> Hi. >> So, when you decide to do something, call me. Why? Why are you standing here? And why are you filming on port property? >> It's public property. >> It's not public property. It's port property. >> RCW53 is really clear. You have elected commissioners. It's public property. I could go to the administrative office. >> You can go to the administrative office. This is a security zone. Has a security >> past that. Sir, >> restricted area signs don't work for people that have bad and good vision. So all of a sudden you're 100 meters away. You're like, "Well, I'm trespassing cuz I have good eyes." But the person who has bad eyes is trespassing when they're 20 meters away. >> So what's this all about? You're setting us up to sue us. >> Yes, you are. There's no other reason you'd be doing this other than to set us up to sue us. >> I'm going to I'm not going to talk to you. Okay. >> What's your name? >> I'm not giving that to >> You're not going to give us your name? >> In no universe will that happen. in no. >> So, >> well, all I need to know is if the port is going to in fact uh have them issue a no trespass warning. >> And if that's the case, then I'll go off the property off the public property. Off the public road. >> This is not a public road. >> Well, if it isn't a public road, you sure haven't done anything to demarcate it as private. Okay. A lot of places, I'm sure you've seen this, you know, >> there's a lot of places that have blue, green signs, etc., right? They'll even sometimes put PBT for private or something like that. The only sign on this public road >> from the publiclyowned port of Aberdine as found in Title 53 is the sign that says restricted area. Well, yes, beyond this point. >> Beyond this point. Not out here. Not down there. Not on the hill. When I've got my binoculars >> down to there. Let's roll the sign down to the entrance. >> There you go. Killer. Jesus. How hard is this? But then I'm going to do a public records request and let me tell you this right now. >> If I find out you're moving that Mars level one sign in contradiction of United States law, >> you sir you sir will have legal problems. You'll also have bar association problems. >> Okay. >> It seemed like everything had calmed down, but the way the situation ended made this story even more worth thinking about. When one camera is enough to make an entire system tense, the question left behind is this. Are they protecting the law or placing themselves above it? Citizens can sue police under section 1983 when their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights may face compensation payouts, disciplinary action, or even termination. What matters most is not who won the argument, but how authority was tested when faced with a citizen who refused to stay silent. So, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and consider supporting us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]