You can't just walk on the ground, sir. And I wasn't going to go inside or anything. I know I'm not allowed to go inside. So, in >> fact, this is my second trip to Detroit. I don't know what you're dealing with, with whom you're dealing with. >> He was unarmed, only carrying a camera, but caused the entire police team to be urgently mobilized. >> Okay. Well, I'm not doing anything wrong. Anything bad inside. There's someone filming. There's no reason to film it. It's okay. >> Let me assure you, I'm not a felon. They wanted ID, he said. I'm not answering the question. And from there, the legal battle began. A man just stood there filming and was immediately surrounded by police demanding to check his identity. But wait, in California, do they have the right to do that? >> And you have been except for asking for my ID. I haven't. >> And you have been except for asking for my ID. I haven't. >> Then why won't you give me your ID? >> Because I don't need to. Yes. >> When asked why he refused to show his ID, he simply replied, "Because I don't need to." And that's when things started to spiral out of control. >> You're not um supposed to film here on grounds, sir. >> Are you sure about that? >> Yeah. Well, it just depends on who you are and what you're doing. >> Oh, okay. Well, I'm not doing anything wrong. I just I like government facilities, especially I've never seen this one. So, >> wait. Can I just see your ID real quick? >> No. Sorry. >> You can't just walk on the ground. It said that this is a pedestrian walkway. >> Yeah, but I mean, you really have to have a purpose to be here. >> I do. I do. I just wanted to get some shots of the facility and that's all. And I wasn't going to go inside or anything. I know I'm not allowed to go inside, so I understand. You know, I'm not trying to >> I don't >> cause any problems. >> Let me see your ID. >> Why? >> That That's one thing you can't deny. I'm asking for ID. >> Oh, is that is that true? >> ID. >> I'm not going to give you my ID. >> Adam 22. come out with one subject. He's failing to give me his ID in front of the bus stop. One male call. >> This isn't a public bus stop. >> Well, inside you filming. There's no reason to film it. It >> It's so I mean I I I record and document all police encounters that I come across. Okay, >> that's fine. >> So, your best option is just to be polite, courteous, and >> you have been except for asking for my ID. I haven't committed any crimes. >> Um when you were on our property, I don't know if you read that sign. >> I did. That's all. I mean, >> let me assure you, I'm not a felon. >> Okay, that's reasonable. >> Okay, I don't have any weapons, so I'm not trying to cause problems. >> Okay, then why won't you give me your ID? >> Because I don't need to. >> More and more police arrived, and one passer by even threatened to beat him up, but he didn't retreat. Instead, he pulled out an object that escalated the situation. >> Can I talk to you for a second? >> Sure. Yeah, go ahead. >> I don't really want to be if Can you turn that off? I prefer it. >> No, sorry. You're staying live. >> I I don't want you standing in the middle of the street. >> I'm not in the middle of the street. I'm on a sidewalk. >> Can I ask you what why you're filming? >> You can. I'm not going to discuss it. We got three units here now. >> Montello. >> Sergeant Montela. Thank you. >> Montel, >> how are you? >> I'm good. I'm okay. >> So, what's going on? >> Uh, these guys got here late, right? These guys surrounded me because I was uh recording. >> One of their customers like threatened me to kick my ass. >> People or someone else? >> No, he left. He took off after he threatened me and uh I had to pull out the pepper spray but you know >> what can you explain to me what happened or how this all transpired? >> I was just here recording. They didn't like it. >> You're recording them just for the sake of recording or >> I wanted to check it out but then people started approaching me and you know >> then they started calling the cops. So, I'm like obligated to stay here >> while you guys >> show up and I want them to know that, you know, I want them to understand that. Yeah. Everyone has a right >> and I think I think we're getting conflict. What's your first thing? >> I'm not going to say >> that's fine. Uh I won't address personally, but >> you call me the observer. If they have footage of that, I would definitely >> So, all your footage is from you here on the sidewalk. >> Really? Okay. >> What was your name? >> I'm not going to say >> you're not going to give it. Okay. So, you understand that you're not allowed to be on the property. There there shouldn't be an issue, right? Gotcha. >> Okay. So, does their property start, just for my information, the asphalt, >> is that where their property starts, >> right? >> This is public right here. We can stand here >> at a courthouse. When he started filming, the staff immediately reacted angrily. You can't film here. >> But who is really breaking the rules? >> Are you recording us? >> Yeah. >> I'm not allowed to record, sir. >> Is this for traffic tickets and stuff? >> Yeah. >> Okay, gotcha. I'm allowed to record though. lead. >> What? >> We're going to have to ask you lead. >> Why? >> Cuz you cannot film in here. >> I can totally film in here. This is a government building. >> So, we have the code. >> Yeah. What's the code? >> This is a public building. I'm allowed to record in here. >> No, you're No, you're wrong. You're absolutely I just went in the courthouse, too. I filmed all around in the courthouse. >> You're not allowed to do that. >> No, that's They let me in. The sheriff's let me in. So, >> there's a rule of court, so it says you can't do that. >> Penal code 63. So, there's information on our website that tells you that you have to get the package in order to film in a courthouse. >> You can go to the website and look at it. >> This will be the PL code, right? So, you can have that for your reference as well. >> Privacy PC 632. >> Yes. >> Okay, I'll hang on to that. >> Perfect. >> It's none of your business. >> It's none of my business. Why? Because privacy. >> Sure. Let's go with that. >> Okay. All right. So, you got to stop recording people here. >> No. No. I'm not going to stop recording people here >> because it's my right. First Amendment. The First Amendment is not protected recording. Let me let me bring you up the rule of court. You can go ahead and do that. I'll give you that. >> This is not a court room. >> I understand I'm not allowed to film in a courtroom. I understand that this is not a courtroom. This is a public building. >> I don't care. >> I'll th Go ahead. I'll You know what? I'll throw I'll throw a lawsuit at you guys. Go for it. >> Excuse me. >> What is the reason that you're taking pictures? >> Why? >> Cuz this is a private property. >> Is it yours? And >> what is the reason that you're taking >> It's interesting. A commanding officer asked him to stand in a different position for safety reasons. But when asked if he would be arrested if he did not comply, he responded with a sentence that made the whole team hesitate. >> Hey, Carpenter. >> Yeah, thank you. I got a call. >> This is the guy that was out here yesterday. >> This doesn't have to be an issue. wanted to talk to us. >> No name, no nothing. >> Yeah, he's not. Well, the biggest issue for us is >> this guy wanted me to remove my mask. >> What's up with that? >> Well, it's loud out here. >> So, anyhow, that's that's that's the concern is as they're pulling out. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thanks. >> How's your day going today, man? >> All right. How about you? >> Good. >> Not really. >> You You didn't tell me what you're doing. I I >> I'm recording. It's clear. It's clear what I'm doing. >> Okay. >> We're four. We're four out here. >> All right. Well, you have a good day. >> You too, Carpenter. I already got your >> handwritten business. >> Just make sure you know lock in or something like that. Was that Wilson or >> my name's Officer Wilson? >> Wilson. Cool. >> There are no specific arrests in the video, but many of the police actions could constitute a violation of constitutional rights, such as obstructing the press, making threats, or illegally demanding ID. The video is a poignant reflection on the problem of police ignorance, minor abuses of power, and the potential for escalation into serious litigation. next standing on the sidewalk doing nothing wrong but the police still ordered them to back off threatening to arrest them. So what are they afraid of? >> I don't know what you're dealing with with whom you're dealing with. I have not had time to assess the situation and then the first thing that I start getting from him is him threatening me. However, if I if I was speaking to the driver, >> let me just say this to educate you. A black man was stopped for a familiar reason, but the police later admitted to a strange mistake. >> We're going to mess with this guy for allegedly running a stop sign. They have a cop parked in the middle of the road. Like they they could It's just >> two vehicles for a stop sign. >> But Detroit cops be like that. >> This is where the sellers are going. Two cops for a stop sign. >> Detroit cops are like that. So, we're just going to make sure everything's okay. The driver would like us to keep recording to make sure they don't violate his rights. Detroit cops are known for beating people they love. >> So, we're going to continue to to film. >> Bro, shut up. I'm not talking. I'm talking to my audience. Shut up, bro. You're going to make this worse for yourself. >> I'm sorry that happened to you. >> It's not interference or obstruction. They're messing with the wrong ones. I'm not in the mood for them today. >> They're doing my free speech. >> No, say whatever we want. We're not interfering with the investigation. >> I think they're upset cuz they took him over for a stop sign when he didn't run it. Yeah, that's probably what it is. A >> human have human decency and say, "Hey, we're going to leave you with a warning and then let him be on his way." >> Yeah, interference is a physical act, so they can eat a sandwich. >> And the victim begged to be filmed to protect herself. What was the police's first reaction? Not an explanation, but a threat. >> Public sidewalk. I'm on an easement, man. Stop giving me orders. the space that's between us. I'm on curdilage filming what I can see in public. I could literally be up in his window and I'm not even like up in his window. I'm standing on the sidewalk. He's telling me to step away. Bro, I'm talking to my audience. So, don't tell me I'm not. First of all, obstru No, no. Obstruction is a physical act. I'm not obstructing your investigation cuz you're not dealing with the driver at this moment. >> Talk to him one more time and we'll show you. >> You can show me whatever you want, bro. You show me what you want. I can talk to whoever I want. I'm not interfering in your investigation. I don't know. He said he said he's tough from afar, but never up close. I think it's probably what he said. >> Guys, I'm not allowed to talk to you cuz if I talk to you, then you know this cop will show me. Bro, I'm one of the largest civil rights activists in the country. I wish you'd show me, bro. I'm not one of the people that make that empty threat either. I got three dozen cops off the force, right? So, if you don't talk to me, I don't talk to you. You let me do my job, I let you do your job. I'll give you another finger to match with that one. All right, bro. >> You gave your finger? >> No, he gave me the thumbs up. I was just giving him a different finger. I can talk to him if I want to talk to him anyways, but that's not the point. I was >> on the phone. No one's even talking. >> Then again, you'd expect that police would have investigatory skills and capabilities. >> I have taken dozens of police officers out of the force. A statement that silenced the entire patrol, but they still deny this. I mean, secondly, they got they got dash cams. They're going to have to prove that he ran the stop sign. I mean, we're hindering traffic. All that. It has nothing to do with the stop sign. Something they saw a black dude rolling around in a car. They thought they were going to hem him up. They didn't get what they were looking for. So now guys at home now they're going to write this dude a ticket and try and take money out of his pocket cuz they're a bunch of coward pigs. >> So So you're absolutely right. >> Your audience. >> I'm I'm talking to my audience now. But legally, the Supreme Court has ruled that a traffic stop can not exceed 15 minutes. Uh we've been here 18 minutes already. This traffic stop is going to stop before then. So there is an excellent argument to be made um that this traffic stop exceeded the legal limits. It seems like they're just they're just giving people tickets out here in Detroit. >> I know, babe. I know. >> Doesn't make sense, does it? >> It it doesn't. Well, I mean, the job of policing doesn't make sense. Steal money from hardworking Americans and like I don't I don't understand that, guys. Now they're giving him a break. Now that they're on camera for everyone to see, they're going to give him a break now. >> Just a name. But instead of doing the right thing, they chose to violate public policy right in front of the cameras. >> File a complaint against this officer. Where would I go to to file that complaint? Listen, just >> wait a minute. Hold on. We can go anywhere. I need to know who am I. You being videotaped, too. >> Yeah, no worries. I love that. Say I did talk to >> First name is uh Yeah, no worries. First name is good. Last name is citizen. >> Your first name good. >> I don't wish to identify a police unless I've committed a crime. Nothing against you, my bro. No issues with you. Listen, >> come on. That ain't even that's not your name. >> It You know what? That's how I go about good citizen. Here's the thing, right? I don't have an issue with cops. Um I don't hate cops more than anybody else. >> By the way, you >> civil rights story. Um, >> okay. >> So, while we're driving down the street Oh, he wants to know if he he can go. Can he go? >> We go. Oh, you good, man. >> So, we we're just driving by. We see the and we figured that we'd we'd film. >> Um, and I don't know why. Let me >> ask you this. You go all over the world doing this >> all over the country. >> Do you? In fact, this is my second trip to Detroit. And the way that I do things is I don't speak to you while you're doing your job because you're doing your job. I don't know what you're dealing with, with whom you're dealing with. So, I stand back, I film, I don't say a word to you. And then the first thing that I start getting from him is him threatening me obstruction for talking to the driver and I'm I'm narrating to them what's happening. However, if I if I was speaking to the driver, >> let me just say this to educate J. So you got to understand when officers on a traffic stop, >> you can't interfere. No one was interfering. >> No, no, no, no. Listen, hear me out. You can't interfere. >> No, no. Right. Listen, wait a minute. Hear me out. Okay, bro. >> You you can't uh like for instance, let's use you example for his safety and my safety. That's it. You can stand right here all day and observe. You're right. I'm just saying you can't say anything to that driver. Yeah, but you can't have a direct conversation. I said was I was sorry. >> Okay. >> Here's a little bit of the of the Here's a little bit of the disconnect which I and I'm not trying to have a roadside debate with you cuz you got to do your job. You got [ __ ] to do today. >> Under Michigan State statute, obstruction is listed as a physical act. Well, me just being loud and taken away from your ability to investigate can be an obstruction. However, there has to be exigent circumstances. So, even if I was just speaking to that guy, you okay? You mind if I film? I'm allowed to do that. And I'm not. He told me that he was going to take me to jail. >> And and he's a coward cuz if he put his hands on me, if he put I like you. You're a very nice guy. But if he put his hands on me, I'll put my hands on him. All right. I appreciate you. >> But um >> what's his name? >> What's that? >> What's his name? Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/ police chief. After being denied his name and number, he announced that he would file a complaint with the internal affairs department, stating, "I will take his job." The channel owner has experience in suing and ousting errant officers. The case illustrates a lack of transparency, abuse of power, and biased tactics of hunting the wrong person. An arrest without evidence without a lawyer. This is a clear demonstration of blatant police abuse. There was somebody sitting in the bathroom. But >> did you see anybody come out that looked beat up or was crying? Did you hear anybody in there crying? >> No, I didn't see anyone that was crying. >> I'm going to call Jason real quick. >> She was just in there. >> What was she wearing? >> She was Hold on. I can't I don't remember. >> Was she white? Black. >> She was white. She has You'll know. You'll know instantly. She has like This is like When I say swollen, it's like beyond swollen. Like >> how old did she look? >> Uh she wasn't She didn't look that old. 30 something I would say. >> 30s. Okay. Her name is you like you'll see her. >> A white female 30s who was beat. >> Okay. Outside gym on the bench. >> I don't know. >> All right. We're going to head out. All right. Thank you. I wonder if this is the girl I was looking for yesterday. The guy on the crutches. >> Yeah. We took him to the hospital. We had to I had to get him checked out. >> Yeah. >> I wonder if it's the same girl. >> Yeah. What's going on? >> Can I help you? >> Police responded to a report of a woman being assaulted, but when they found her, she claimed she was fine and refused help. And it didn't end there. >> What's going on? Someone said there was a young lady who had said her husband had beat her up and she was upset and crying. Okay. Are you Are you good? Is everything good? Um, yesterday, and this is just curiosity, I were you over across the street for a little bit in the bushes, >> boys? >> No. >> No. >> Okay. >> I was at Cowboys yesterday sitting out front. >> All right. >> I wasn't in a bush or anything. >> Okay. I got a call for a young lady yesterday at the intersection. I don't know. It might have been somebody else. >> All right. So, you're good. You don't need me for >> I'm okay. >> Any purposes? All right. You can imagine why I'm asking. >> Yeah. you had a >> a lot of people ask and embarrassing. I don't want anybody to ask anymore. >> Okay. Well, I I can empathize with not wanting, you know, the attention you don't want, but some people are concerned and >> I appreciate their concern. >> All right. You know, get a hold of us if you do need my help or, you know, any of my friends. >> All right. All right. Thank you. >> Y'all think I can come in here and steal? >> I didn't steal anything. >> Yeah. >> You see all this? >> You see all this? >> Whatever. We didn't watch it for the last hour in Subway. You remember me from yesterday, right? >> Did you? He was supposed to pay for all this stuff. >> When When did you think he did? After you took it off the shelf and walked around with him the entire time. >> I didn't. I >> Well, take all of it off and put it on the counter. >> He was supposed to pay for it. I thought he didn't. >> He didn't put on the counter. >> I went to Subway while he went to go pay for it. >> What's your name, ma'am? >> Lee. I went to Subway while he went to go pay for I even >> Is there any duties? >> I was eating. food that you added to your mouth. >> I was eating Subway. It was >> We've been watching you since you walked inside. We know everything you did. >> But I didn't steal anything. >> Christa was moved from suspicion of abuse to theft. Despite the lack of clear evidence, she was repeatedly questioned and denied the right to review the camera >> works. Here's how speaking to an attorney. >> No, because I didn't steal anything, sir. And if you saw the cameras, you saw that he stole it. >> You're done speaking. You're waiting for your attorney. So, you're done speaking. I'd like to see the cameras. >> Well, there's a camera right there. There's a camera right there. And there's a camera right there. You can see all three of those. >> I'd like to see right here, too. >> I did not steal anything he did. >> Okay. >> You said you were done talking. >> There's a [ __ ] baby. >> Mhm. >> Why am I getting in trouble for something I didn't do? >> Is it the baby fishing pole that she was walking around with? >> Yes. And I was paying for that. I had $10. >> Okay. >> I was paying for everything. >> Where's your receipt? I didn't pay for it yet cuz I was at Subway. >> You guys walked outside. >> No, he >> So, you didn't pay for it yet? >> He put it in the bag. I thought he put it back >> and you didn't pay for it yet. I don't care how many dollars you have, >> dude. I was I even put $10 aside for the baby toy. He stole it. Look back on the cameras and see that he took everything. He put it all in his bags because I know for a fact I didn't. >> Okay. When did he put it in the bag? >> Look at Subway. When did you >> I was I walked away and then it was gone. So I don't even worry about it. >> But by raising your voice, it's not going to get you any further or >> because this is ridiculous. I didn't steal anything. >> Did you hear what I said? >> This is This is completely illegal to arrest me when I did not steal anything. >> Okay, that's the conversation you can have with your attorney. >> I did not steal anything. He did. I do not deserve to get in trouble for him and his wrongdoings. Even though she didn't actually take or keep anything, Christa was charged as an accomplice simply because she was with the thief. The police didn't need proof, just speculation, and that was enough to convict her. Be >> back outside in just a minute. Ma'am, come with me. >> He's coming with you. You guys are going to be in the same car in 10 minutes. >> There, please don't arrest me. I didn't do anything. I don't break the law. I don't I don't try to do bad stuff. Stay right here. >> Can I smoke now? >> I told you you'll be able to smoke. >> I'm not going to run. I swear I I don't I'm not even fast enough. >> Let me get this started up. Steal. I don't feel if she did. I just I was going to pay for the story right then and there, but the lady told me to take. Despite her protests and claims of innocence, Christa was taken into custody. The police remained silent without any explanation as if the process did not need to be transparent. >> C H E H A R Y. >> Can they go in a room together? >> Yeah. >> With you? Are you staying while they're here? >> If I need to or I need some I mean >> birthday. >> Well, >> if if there's a a G4 guy that could just keep an eye so I can finish typing up my stuff. That's what I was thinking. I can put them where there's another >> cuz they are in my custody. >> I was going to say so I can put them where somebody's watching another person room right next door and put them together. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> 22. >> Thank you for letting us stay together. >> No problem. >> Oh yeah. >> Just need the med clearance for the jail. They wouldn't take her because she's puffy and bruised. >> Okay. Have a seat for me. I'm Lindsay the nurse practitioner. What's going on? No, you guys are still in custody. The only reason he's not, too, is because of the crutches. So, um, they're both in custody. It's a theft thing. They've been no issue. They're a couple. So, they should be fine. You only needed cuz they're in custody. Thank you. >> I just got to go outside and finish my paperwork. I told you we were watching you the whole time. >> So, I'm getting charged with petty theft or an accomplice to petty theft or is it the same thing? Um, it's pretty much the same thing. It's pett Well, you're being charged with petty theft and that is the charge. >> Does it say on the paperwork that I'm an accomplice? >> Uh, the narrative describes everything that we saw happen. You can make, like I said, you can make your argument with an attorney with the courts. >> I really didn't steal it. It's fine. I like, >> okay, >> and I did. >> When formally charged with petty theft, Christa collapsed, terrified. As for the police, they were unsympathetic, unlisting, and gave her no chance to explain. The case reflects the risk of abuse of power, stereotypes, and lack of transparency in criminal proceedings. From protect and serve to threaten and retreat when filmed. Hey guys, what do you think about this situation? If you like the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with donations. Thank you very much. [Music]