Okay. Well, the business owners have called, so they would like you just to leave their property. I'm not on their property. I've never been on their property. >> Just get stay off their property, okay? >> been. So, can I get your name, sir? Absolutely not. So, am I I am being detained? >> Yes. A seemingly simple ID request, but it sparks a confrontation that leaves many questioning the limits of police authority. Can you tell me your name? Huh? Can I get your name? Plaintiff. You're not in trouble. I'm trying to see what's going So, why would he ask me for my name? >> Just put it in our report. Yeah. When power crosses the line, the consequences don't end with a conversation. They bring complaints, public pressure, and legal questions that are hard to avoid. While everything still seemed calm, a small unexpected detail caught the police's attention, setting the stage for a tense confrontation moments later. This was the moment when everything began to change. Connect the station. Connect this. Yeah, I was notified there's a dog out here. It's not vicious, though. Coming up to me and playing with me. I'm assuming we're not going to call a warden out for that. You might call her back and let her know. 10-4. Hello. 10-4. Hey, it's not here. Yeah, he had a walkie-talkie and a nice suit on and a >> [music] >> badge around his neck, but I didn't stop. I just kept walking. They were halfway around there and then walked off. Stay here a few minutes and see how this turns out. >> Not sure if that road right there is a public road or FedEx's road. I'd hate to trespass. Hello, Officer Smith. Name and date of birth, everyone. Okay. Last name Daniels. First name Corey, c o r e y. Middle initial be void. Date of birth 1995. >> [clears throat] >> Middle initial? Void. Could you send me that uh criminal mischief to my phone? >> of the encounter. I had decided nothing was going to happen. I decided to walk on down the street. Okay, do you have a phone number I can call you? I was going down there there was some more business down there. Like computer coffee. Cox Cable. Uh Fairway Lawn, a few other places. I was just going to walk down there and take a look down the road. But I heard on the radio there was a sus- a suspicious person at 4501 Industrial Boulevard. I figured that was me. So I turned around and walked back. Fort Smith police showed up and this is what ensued. Y'all enjoy. From a moment that seemed harmless, the arrival of police quickly shifted the atmosphere. Just minutes later, the conversation turned into a direct confrontation as questions about identity and authority began to unfold in the next segment. Hello. Howdy. How's it going? Uh you know, I don't answer questions. Sir, I don't know you. Okay, well, I don't answer questions. Okay. Well, the couple business owners have called >> Yeah, I know. I heard them. about you just walking around their business taking photos. Okay. So, they would like you just to leave their property. I'm not on their property. Okay. I'm not on See that See those They can be. posts right there? It's called the right You can't expect me to walk down the middle of the road, do you? >> I'm not. I'm just saying you were on their property. I'm not been on their property. Just get Stay off their property, okay? >> been. So, can I get your name, sir? >> Absolutely not. Okay. Why not? Because do you suspect me of committing, having committed, or about to commit a crime? Well, sir, they're saying you committed a crime. That's all I'm here to do. That's fine. So, If they can prove that I actually looked in somebody's vehicle, I'll give you my ID. So, they don't have to have Well, I don't have to give up my fourth amendment right. I'm sorry, I'm just trying to identify you because You're not going to You're not going to identify me. I promise you. I haven't committed a crime. The laws are pretty specific. So, we I mean, we can part ways. What's your name? Breedlove. Your badge number? 4788. 4788. So, sir, can I just get your name? Nope. Just to say that I spoke to you and Nope. You can call me roving reporter. Roving reporter? Mhm. I'm a photojournalist. This is what I do for a living. What company do you work for? I'm I'm I'm an independent journalist. I gather content and stories. Now, have you actually talked to the RP? Not yet, sir. Okay. Well, then you don't know what's going on yet, do you? I'm trying to get your side of this. Okay. I know. I'm standing on I'm standing on a public easement. I'm walking up and down the road taking pictures. As the exchange heated up over questions about identity and the right to film, tensions escalated quickly. In the next part, the situation goes far beyond a routine check as firm statements make the atmosphere more intense than ever. Am I being detained? Nice. Am I being detained? Huh? Am I being detained? Well, we're getting to that. No, you guys are not answering questions. Yes, yes, you are being detained. For what crime? Uh uh detained at this point. For what crime? Because we are >> Okay, go talk to the RP. Go talk to the RP in front of you. Do you want to talk or do you want to talk? I'm I'm just telling you I'm not identifying. Okay. You asked me a question. Okay. Okay. We're getting calls from businesses >> I heard them. Okay. for you taking pictures I am taking pictures. and videotaping them and all that stuff. Absolutely. We're getting We've gotten two or three complaints from a number of businesses. This is the second time you've been out here. You're not my problem. Okay, well if we keep getting calls for this, yes, it is. How's How's that illegal activity a problem? We've got a supervisor coming down here and you can chat with him, okay? Okay. All right. Is there a reason why you don't want to identify yourself? Absolutely. All right, what is the reason? Uh I don't answer your questions. You just asked one. Yes. Okay. Like I said, we've got a supervisor coming down here, so you can chat with him. Sorry, my friend. I'm being detained. >> Yes. And criminal code violation. >> to you that You haven't given me a You haven't given me a ICA. I'm not going to sit here and have a a argument with you, okay? >> No. Like I said, I've got a supervisor coming down here You haven't given me a ICA that I violated. Again, sir, I'm not going to sit here and get into a a argument with you. >> So, you have no reason to detain me. You're being detained. For? Okay. Well, we asked you to provide your name, you're not providing your name. I don't Okay. All right. I have not broke committed a crime. Like I said we'll have We'll have We've got a supervisor coming down here. You can um You can have chat with him. After the situation reached a peak with heated arguments, everything was far from over. As time passed, the big questions remained, and the confrontation moved into an even more intense phase as both sides stood firmly by their positions. I'm done with my investigation and I'll find out if there's no crime committed or there has been a crime. You want to say that again? Yes. I said, you are being detained and I have the right to detain you until I determine that no crime has been committed. Do you know what Arkansas statute 12-11-106 is? Sir, I'm not going to get into I'm just asking if you know it or not. Again, I'm not going to get into it with you. I'm going to make a note of Nothing legal about it. It's a yes or no question. All right. You don't want to answer my questions. I've told you the reason why you're being detained. I'll leave it at that and Okay. No problem. Cop's winning. They're trying to make something up. I'm not involved. I was called by the someone who came in and stole his money. Trying to get the money So, do you have reasonable articulable suspicion yet? Like I said No, there's a yes It's either yes or no. Like I said I'm legally able to detain you until I can determine You've had me detained for over 20 minutes. >> has been committed and you are required by law to provide your name. Oh, if a crime has been committed, yes. Just when the debate seemed to reach a dead end, an unexpected development changed the course of events. Moments later, the arrival of a key figure in the next segment promises to bring clarity in a way no one saw coming. Walk up on my supervisor. He will come here. >> I just walked up on you. >> ready to talk to you, okay? I just walked up on you and then nothing nothing happened. Again. And you didn't walk up to me, I walked up to you. You're not going to walk up to my supervisor until he's ready to talk to you. Okay? I'm going to go ahead and take a picture of this guy then. Hey, kitty. Ooh, a baby lion. Ooh. Hey, kitty there. Hey kitty, kitty. Hey kitty. Hey kitty, kitty. Oh, hey kitty, kitty. Hey pretty kitty. Oh, dear. >> to stay off their property. I'm not on the book. Look right here. >> This is the driveway. >> This driveway does not This part of the driveway does not >> property. This street This driveway leads into their business, okay? >> See that blue marking? That's utilities. I hear you bringing listening. Sir, we need to hang tight here, okay? >> I'm going to go right over here and take a picture of this man. >> to hang tight. Okay? I need you to hang tight. What you need and what you get are always the same. >> You're going to Okay? You heard that uh song it's uh Yeah, you can get what you want and sometimes it just might not >> to the fair go here. Yeah, but I You work for me at this point. I haven't committed a crime and you have no authority over me until I committed a crime. Yes, I do. No, you don't. >> Yes, I do. If I haven't committed a crime, you can't tell me jack crap. >> [clears throat] >> I have the legal right to detain you. Well past the 20-minute mark now. Reasonable Reasonable amount of time. Reasonable There's a woman in the house holding her until you guys get there. Reasonable articulable suspicion which you can't provide. 10-9, you're required on that one. You guys just think you can do whatever the hell you want to do, don't you? The law applies to you. You can't. There is a woman in his house and he's holding her until you guys get there. The law applies to you, too. Okay. Okay, does that mean you don't care? No. I wouldn't be doing this job if I didn't care. You're right. If you're going to detain an American citizen walking down the road, then you need to find another line of work. >> At this moment, you are being detained. That's fine. Okay. For a constitutionally protected activity Okay. which you cannot criminalize. I've been detained here for over 30 Almost 30 minutes with no reasonable articulable suspicion or a crime may be committed. 1907 I apologize for that. I can only hear you so fast. Well, you know Yeah. What what do you even need to be here? They should have known the law. >> Well The law specifically says I can be on this side. As the supervisor arrived and the exchange began to cool down, the situation came to an end in a way that left many people thinking. No charges were filed, but questions about the handling of the situation and the limits of authority remained unresolved. Up next a conversation that seemed harmless outside the bank quickly turned strange as unexpected questions shifted the atmosphere in an unpredictable direction. What are you doing? Are you filming stuff? Yeah, I'm recording. Yeah, what for? Some friends. Sounds good. Just wondering. We don't usually have people recording our building. I wasn't going to >> Oh, you're recording you. I wasn't going to go like in or on you guys' property. >> Okay, no, it's no problem. We were just thinking what wonder what that's for. Yeah, just want some friends. I won't even be long, like a couple hours if that's okay. You're just outside? Is this where the Is this where the employees park back here? Um well, sometimes, sometimes not. Just >> On this on that back that back wall right there? Well, not all the time, no. You work here? Are you like the manager here? I love your shirt, by the way. What is your guys' Wi-Fi password? Oh, we don't give it out. I'll give you 20 bucks. Yeah, well, that's okay. You said give it out. Yeah. You really can't give it to You can't >> usually do that. Usually? >> Yeah, it's just not something we give out. >> said this is something different, so let's just keep going doing something different. >> No. You feel me? Okay. >> Yeah. I can't connect my phone to your network. >> No. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, what are you going to do with your video? Um give it to the guy that sent me out here. >> Okay. Just to record. Yeah, seems different, but okay. Yeah, just real peaceful, real polite. Sure, yeah. Can I ask you a question? Sure. What is 27 minutes to 7:00? So, 6:33. Okay. >> Yeah. Right? Sounds right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How you doing? That's an interesting question as well. Can I ask you a question? I might not answer it, but sure. >> You might not answer it. What you got? Why is that? What What is 550 divided by 2? The conversation began lightly with seemingly harmless questions, but beneath the relaxed tone were subtle signs that made the staff grow cautious. Just minutes later, as the topic shifted to more sensitive matters, the atmosphere quickly changed in an unpredictable way in the next segment. Come inside your building. >> come in to the lobby part and be a customer if you wanted to. >> Yeah, like in the lobby area. Can I come in and do >> to record. We don't want recording in But what if I like put the camera up though and get like my sketchbook and my measuring tape? Would I be able to come in? I said So, is it So, it's not because of the camera, is it just because of me? No, it's just unusual for people to video. I said if I put the camera down >> Yeah, but we're not going to take measurements. From a security standpoint, we would not allow that. Just to come in with it. >> we wouldn't allow that. >> I mean, if you want to come in and see the lobby, that's one thing, but like measurements and recording, we would not allow that. >> I wouldn't be able to do that. >> No, anybody. We wouldn't allow anyone to do that. Not even our customers. Well, well, how about this? Would you be able to share with me where the vault is located? >> No. So, who sent you to take these pictures? Just some friends. If you if you had Wi-Fi, I was going to call them right here and you can actually talk to them on a video call. I have no service out here, like the internet. That's why I asked you for your uh Can you understand why we maybe wouldn't want to tell you some of these things? >> Like what? Like where the vault is? I really don't understand why you wouldn't want to tell me where the vault is. Okay, that's fine, too. Because let me Can I say something? Let's just say it was no camera, no sketchbook, or anything like that, and someone just walked in through the front. Mhm. Can they see the vault? It's right there. But me on the outside, asking you only because you approached me, that's sketchy? A little bit? But if I had no camera, no nothing, and just walked through the front door, me where the vault was in a bank, I would think that was odd. When you can see it when you walk in, though. I don't know. Can you? Have you been in there? No. [laughter and clears throat] Okay. >> The average bank that you walk into, you can see it from the lobby. As the conversation began touching on sensitive security questions, the initial ease faded and the tension grew. Soon after, everything escalated quickly when law enforcement arrived, pushing the story in a completely different direction in the next segment. Put these down. Officer. Sir. Hello. What's up? What's going on today? What do you mean? This is a What's going on? Yeah. Okay. Is that okay? >> Yeah, yeah, is there a reason why, though? Cuz I want to. Okay. Any chance I can get your name? Huh? Can I get your name? Plaintiff. What is that? Plaintiff. Plain plain tiff? Yeah. Okay. Uh no, I'm in trouble right now. We're just trying to see what's going on. So, why would he ask me for my name? >> Put it in a report. That's all we want. Yeah. What's your last name? What's your name? Right here. I don't see. Can I get y'all business Y'all have business cards on y'all? We don't have them. You None of y'all have a business card? Okay, can I get the corporate service number, uh Officer Stewart? We can. We'll get your name and everything and we'll give it to you. Before we leave. No, you're not I'm not making those kind of deals, man. Here, I got something for you, though. So, are you going to give me your name or not? Am I required to give you my name? Cuz here, look. Real quick, man. We told you you're not doing anything wrong. >> I'm trying to see why he's He's trying to get my first and my last name. Okay. You don't need to You don't need to read the book. Uh he don't He don't He don't need to read this? No. Okay. They just don't want you on the property. You can stay on the sidewalk and record, but you can't come on their property and record, okay? I told her I wasn't going to come on her property. I had no intentions. I wasn't even speaking to nobody. If I can just get they uh the corporate service number from one of you guys. When the police began asking about identity, the exchange shifted into a tense standoff filled with constant demands and responses. In the next part, an unexpected turn makes the atmosphere even more heated and pushes the confrontation to its peak. there, bro. We don't make no kind of deals like that, bro. I need the corporate service number. That's your job and your duty, man. My name is Officer Stewart. My badge number is 123. And I need the corporate service number and I'm not giving you my name. Okay, you can call and get it from internal >> Okay, you want to be like that? Okay. Okay. All righty. All right. Who informed you? All right, I need the corporate service number, man. Well, you don't You don't run in the street. Don't sleep with your neighbor's dog. That's what I'm talking about. You don't sleep with your neighbor's dog. If you go in there and rob the bank if all three of y'all go in there and pull y'all guns out and take some money from there, you can possibly be arrested. All right. You're not allowed in the parking lot. I'm not You're not I Listen, if you go in there if you go in there and do that, man. Trying to really be peaceful with you Officer Stewart. That's right. Because I wanted you to get the call for service number. You said you will only get the call for service number if I give you my name. Yeah, right now. Well, what about the Fourth Amendment? Where does that come in? What do you What does that have to do with anything? >> Okay, what is the Fourth Amendment? Maybe that'll help you. Want to read it for me real quick? >> No, I don't. We're done here. Stay on the sidewalk. Okay. Okay. Hey hey hey, but why they did it so important? Now listen to me real quick. Yeah. Why they did it so important is cuz you over here asking me for it. You got green all on your face, man. You don't walk up to me like that. I wasn't I wasn't like that at first. I didn't get your name going in the car. I wasn't like that at first. You see that [ __ ] ass deal he tried to make with me? He going to tell me, "Hey, if you give me your name, I'll give the call for service number." Man, who you think you're talking to, bro? Y'all never gave y'all name and y'all badge number. I didn't have no cars and y'all did not give y'all name and y'all badge. Only Stewart did. Not Stewart, but the other guy. Can I get y'all names and y'all badge? I'm talking about this guy next to you. All right, y'all. I'm pulling them cameras, man. We going to see what you said in there. We As the argument gradually cooled down, no arrest was made, but the back and forth left many questions about how the situation was handled. 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