Oh, I'm not doing that, man. >> But yes, you are. >> I'm not. >> Because if we ask you for your identification, >> talk about the unacceptable things that are being done by your department. >> No. No. We going to talk about how white people call up and call me. After >> taking a bus, you can hang out and get on the bus, but otherwise do it on the sidewalk. Well, I'll leave you to it then. >> Take care, guys. >> All righty. You have a good day. Take care. >> The threat rang out in broad daylight right in front of the camera, but what happened next left the entire police department in stunned silence. >> Do you want to brush over it? So, what do you like me to say? You want me to cry about it? I don't understand, man. I don't want to hear about how big it is. >> Just one simple question ignited a tense confrontation between the journalist and the police. In the very first minute, a shocking racial remark came straight from the police commander's own mouth. >> I want you to identify you. What is your name? >> No, I know your chief has taught you that you have to demand ID in the state of Illinois. >> First of all, I'm not being >> right in the middle of the public area, sudden demands erupted. Identification papers became the center of tension, setting off a chain of unpredictable events. >> Hi, how are you guys? Mind if I get your names and badge numbers? >> You're a public servant and I'm just asking you to identify yourself. >> I want you to identify you. What is your name? >> No, I know your chief has taught you that you have to demand ID in the state of Illinois. >> First of all, I'm not saying, but let me say this to you. >> No, but that's what your chief taught you. I know that. >> You don't know that. >> I do. That's what he said. personal questions or answers or how we communicate. You don't know that. >> But your chief your chief has a specific policy here that violates the Fourth Amendment. >> You assume? >> No, it came out of his mouth. Ma'am, I could show you the video if you'd like. >> You talking to I saw the video. We're talking about right now at this moment, >> right? So, was he educated since that video? >> Allow me to speak. We can sing the same time, but we can't speak the same. >> Right. Go ahead, ma'am. Go ahead. I was just asking questions. >> Okay. So, listen. Whether you guys know it or not, the staff here has gotten so many threats. We get it constantly. So if we ask you to identify yourself, our job is to preserve life. >> Your job is to preserve life. >> That's right. So they we getting threats. We're called all type of racist names. >> So why does six department officers No, I heard you. The threats. I'm just asking. You said you heard your job is to preserve life. Why are six officers not patrolling the street and they're with the with the mayor? >> Look, we're talking about what's going on with >> Is your job to preserve the mayor's life or the >> You just want to talk and not listen. >> I listen to you, ma'am. Said I'm I'm just I'm asking you a question. >> But I'm asking you a question first. So you're not innocent. I question it. So if you all don't want to hear about the volatile, dangerous situation that you all are putting these officers. >> Oh, I'm not doing that, ma'am. >> But yes, you are. Because if we ask you for your identification, give it to us. I don't know who you are. >> I don't know who you are. >> You can have a bomb on you. I don't know who you are. >> You could as well, ma'am. >> I got on police. >> All right. >> Po. So you know who I am. Hold on for a sec. The kids needs to hear this. This is serious. >> Go ahead, ma'am. >> We have five people that are scared to death of the threatening threats that they're getting. racist threats. We've been called all type of racist names. >> Amid the tense atmosphere, footsteps were suddenly halted and then the chilling sound of metal echoed, signaling a dramatic moment about to unfold. >> Follow me, sir. >> I can I can walk, sir. I can walk. Don't start to walk in front, sir. >> I'm not You're stopping in front of me. You're stopping in front of me. >> I'm not walk I'm walking down the public sidewalk. But don't get on nobody's >> I'm not He stopped. I'm not getting in anybody's personal space. Sir, >> he stopped in front of me. Chief, put those cuffs away. You're not going to arrest anybody. Stop it. Put the cuffs away. You'll be making a big mistake just like your mayor that you protect. Sir, >> do you have to identify yourself in the state of Illinois like you said in the video? >> Officer, you're wrong for that. You're wrong for trying to for trying to get in my way >> for getting in my way for me asking questions of a government official. >> What's your name and badge number, sir? >> What's your name and badge number, sir? You don't want to answer any questions? >> Are you all tyrants? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Yeah, just uh you got your just right now it's super windy. So, I mean I'm just trying to see how it will hold up. It's super windy, but I mean we probably put five. >> That's just a That's just a system check. Officer, why did you put your hands on me when I was walking down a public sidewalk? >> How far was you? >> I could. So, when I was over this power line, that was probably about 60 ft. So, I mean, I could go up probably about 100 ft. Pretty bad. >> Right in the middle of the police station courtyard, a chilling threat rang out. Throw him in jail. But when challenged, everything took an unexpected turn. being disrespected. >> You're threat he's threatening me with a public lockup. >> How? He threatened He threatened to take my freedom away from me, >> you know. And white people call to every day saying we're they wish we were dead. I've been called [ __ ] Let's talk about that. >> Unacceptable. >> Okay. >> But let's talk about the unacceptable things that are being done by your department. >> No. No. We're going to talk about how white people call up and call me. >> So, you only want to talk about what you want to talk about. >> I just said it's unacceptable. Now, is it acceptable to I said it's unacceptable. >> Is it unacceptable to you Is it unacceptable to you for law enforcement to violate people's fourth amendment right, ma'am? >> Did you all want to talk about it? >> I just said it's unacceptable race, though. Y'all think it's okay to call >> I'm not even white, ma'am. >> No, I don't what color you are. You're lighter than me. You look white to me. So, I don't know. >> So, because I'm lighter than you, I'm white. >> Let's talk about how the our my staff is >> skin color has nothing to do with it, ma'am. >> Obviously, that's what they call us horses say. They go burn out the police department. They go bomb us. They go kill us. Let's talk about that. But then you want to come on property. >> That's crimes talking about they're going to bomb the police department. Hold them accountable. >> Who can have a bomb on you right now? >> I don't know. I don't know. >> You can have a bomb. >> Anybody can have a bomb. >> I don't know who you are. >> I don't know who you are. That's the That's the point, man. No one knows who anybody is. >> We're both making a point. >> Just when everything seemed to be over, an unprecedented call rang out demanding the dissolution of the entire police department. A moment that marked a shocking turning point in the whole incident. >> You don't want to talk about the mayor. >> Control the narrative again. >> I said that. That's a bad thing that the I said I just answered you. >> But you can't answer my questions, but I can answer yours. >> Just a statement because you really don't care if you care. >> The mayor's being protected by six officers that could be on the street. They could be on the street protecting the residents of Dalton. >> What about my staff being threatened? They said they're going to hurt. >> But what about what about the public that's being threatened with the lack of officers here? What? You don't want to talk? >> What about the What about What about the What about the public? >> Just got a slick. >> How would I have a slick mouth? I haven't said anything. You called me a racist. >> I'm not a racist. >> I'm not a racist. >> I stand by because you don't want to listen to what's going on with my staff who are all black women being called >> I'm not a racist, man. >> You said racial comment today. >> You conduct yourself like >> I said that's horrible and then I wanted to talk to you about something else. >> Pretend so you want to brush over it. >> So what do you like me to say? You want me to cry about it? I don't understand, man. >> I don't want to hear about being called [ __ ] and horses. >> What would make you happy about >> What would make you happy? >> You can make the phone call stop, then we'll talk. >> I can't make anything stop. Has nothing to do with me. I want to make a complaint against you, Lieutenant. >> Okay. Bunch of tyrants. Oh man, what a bunch of criminals. Criminals with badges. That's what they are. We're going to stick around a little bit longer just to make sure that they know that we will not ever back down from holding them accountable and exercising our rights. Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/p police chief. The journalists declare that the Dalton Police Department was too corrupt and abusive of power, calling for it to be dismantled and rebuilt from the ground up. Up next, in the middle of a public space, an officer confidently issued a nostanding order. The beginning of a power scandal. >> Not disrespectful. Well, >> if you guys are taking a bus, you can hang out and get on the bus, but otherwise do it on the sidewalk. >> But otherwise, do it on the sidewalk. >> What's the >> We're just actually We're We're not even from the area, man. We were just walking down the sidewalk and saw the commotion going on. So, is there anything prohibiting us from being on the property? >> Yeah, the bus station is for bus travel. So, if you're taking a bus to and from, yeah, you can be impacted. >> And we can't just as tourists be checking out the bus chasing >> for a few minutes. We're not allowed to be here for a couple minutes at all. Well, I'm going to You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go look for some pamphlets or some information about bus ride and then maybe I'll take a bus ride. >> Sure. >> Good idea. >> Okay, >> sir. I'm in >> Hello. How are you? What? What does that mean? You don't work here? Well, then what are you doing in there? What did this lady just break into the uh office here? >> I can't hear anything. >> The journalist didn't leave. He demanded evidence, regulations, and what happened next. Left the entire area holding its breath. >> What's the purpose for you guys videotaping? >> Oh, we were just walking down the sidewalk and saw the commotion going on. I didn't know what was happening. So, now I'm just waiting to see if the uh Will You work here? >> I'm a driver for Sunran. So, yes, you do work here, I guess. But what I'm looking for is a uh like a schedule or any information on that kind of stuff. And I asked the young lady in the booth there uh for some information, and she just kept waving at me saying no. >> So, you need you need a schedule? >> Yeah, I'd love to go. >> Go to that bus. They should have one in there. Or let me go over here and I'll get you one. >> Okay. I appreciate you. Thank you very much. >> We don't have a busy or something like that. Goodbye. This is your sh anyway. >> Two [ __ ] three cows and baby. [Music] It's my boy. >> Just trying to help you with his >> I don't know where that guy just went. He said he was going to get us something. So >> on one side was the order to leave. On the other was the demand for transparency. When the police were challenged on the spot, would they stand by their order or be forced to back down under the camera's gaze? >> You engaged me. Can I just ask your name and badge number so I know who I spoke with? >> Kazinski 5226. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate that. >> So, you're like very interested in chasing me out of here after I get my paperwork. Is that what your problem is? >> I said, are you like trying to chase me out of here after I get my paperwork? >> No, I was talking to this gentleman here. >> Oh, okay. Well, I don't know. You were telling me before I couldn't be here, so I know. >> Yeah. And it was accurate to the fact that the bus station is for catching buses to and from. It's not to hang out like a social area. >> Oh, I'm not hanging out socially. >> Sure. >> I can show you that. >> Yeah, >> I got better places to be to hang out socially. >> Well, I'll leave you to it then. Take care, guys. >> All righty. You have a good day. Take care. And don't forget to honor your oath. It's very important. >> Always do, man. >> All righty. >> Here. He actually gave me two of them. So, there's one for you. >> Yeah. And uh might as well check it out. You know what? I was I was really I got to tell you guys, >> I was really hoping to be able to explain to this young lady what we were doing and let her know we were cop watching, keeping an eye on these guys and uh she didn't want to hear it. So, ignorance is bliss. >> The officer's name and badge number were made public, but what does that mean? A victory for transparency or the beginning of legal troubles ahead. >> Haven't been hit yet. So, I got I got a 100% streak on that one. >> Yeah. Well, >> but thank you for looking out for me. I appreciate >> you for >> So, >> what time is it? >> 1:30. >> 1:30. Okay. So, >> 137. >> 1:37. Hey, I just want to say thank you for your help, man. I appreciate you. >> You're welcome. >> All right. Have a good day. Stay safe, man. No problem. >> Thank you. >> How's it going, officer? >> Real good. How you doing? >> You guys got your hands full here, huh? >> Apparently, we walked into several different incidents. >> Yeah, me and my son were just walking down the sidewalk and saw this going on. I was And it was like one after the next for you. >> And nobody, even the guy that everybody's telling us got hit, he doesn't want to make a report. doesn't want to do anything about it. So, >> yeah. Well, no, you know what? I just wanted to thank you cuz I saw you were being very compassionate and professional with him and I, you know, I appreciate that. I know he's having a rough time. So, you know, sometimes people do things they don't want to do and put themselves in places they don't necessarily want to be, but and I'm sure it gets stressful for you after a while. >> Yeah. You never know what you're going to walk into down here. >> Yeah. No, I'm sure. Yeah. No, I'm thinking the same thing, man. >> Absolutely. But anyway, we appreciate you being uh professional. Thank you very much. Can I just ask your name badge number so I know where I spoke to >> actually? Okay. >> And it's 447. >> The story ended in a heavy silence, leaving echoes of power and responsibility resonating throughout Tucson. Jason and Ben left after proving their legal right to film. What would you do if the police burst into your yard, questioned you, and demanded your identification just because you were sitting in your own car? >> Listen, until I can verify this is your property, I'm conducting a criminal investigation. Therefore, you need to provide me with your name. Hey, hey, stay in the car. Get back in the car. Man, they wrong and you know you wrong. You in big trouble for this, bro. >> There was no evidence, no charges. But the husband was handcuffed and put in a patrol car right on his own land. >> Y'all own this property. >> What you think? If you ain't, >> that doesn't mean you own it. >> We own this. >> Let me see your IDs. >> You need to get get off our property. >> Let me see your IDs now. >> Get off our our property. >> Let me see your IDs now. Let me see your ID. >> Get off our property. >> Don't Don't get upset. >> 67. Send me another unit 51 cooperative. >> That's crazy what he got going on. You come pull in our property. Look, get our ID. >> Get off our property, man. >> Give me your ID. >> ID your What's your name, sir? >> My last name is Artman. A R T M. My ID number 6057. >> Off our property. >> Oh, no. I have to go back down to my where I write down your >> That's fine. I can just write down your information. That's fine. >> Why is you here? I didn't know who was the >> cut off. >> I don't like that. >> Off our property. Get off our property, man. That's all you got to do. >> No, I'm going to call now. >> We told you we own it. We own it. Call, baby. >> Dead ass wrong. >> Listen, until I can verify this is your property. I'm conducting a criminal investigation. Therefore, you need to provide me with your name. >> You think I want to be out here standing in the rain? >> You dead ass wrong, man. >> You dead ass [ __ ] >> I don't know why you got to be hostile. I'm trying to do my job. >> You being hostile now. >> I'm not being hostile. >> Wait, wait. You cannot hear me. >> You d ass wrong. >> It's 17 to 35. >> This moment marked the transition from a conversation to an illegal detention. And the people were not informed. >> Hey, stay in the car. >> Stay Hey, stay in the car. Get back in the car. Get back in the car now. My property. >> Sit back down in the car. >> I ain't being detained. >> Sit back until I can verify you. My name on your back. You're being detained right now. Hands on your back. Drop it. Drop it. Put the phone in the cart. Put the phone in the car. Drop the wallet. Hands on your back. Hands behind your back right now. You're being detained. Okay. >> You know, I'm going sue you. >> I'm going sue you. >> Not too arrest. Arrest me. He caught your shirt. They caught your shirt. >> You dead serious, man. You dead wrong. >> Marian, step it up, please. >> Dead ass wrong, man. >> You dead ass wrong. >> Any kind of weapons on you? >> No, I don't. Nothing illegal. You want to illegal substance? Spread your feet for me. >> The two address numbers on the gate and mailbox became an excuse to prolong the inspection even though the papers proved they were the owners. >> Where's the house? That's one that's 335 where the house is. You wait for the other officers. >> Listen, I don't know why y'all have to be so aggressive in all that property, sir. >> You Okay, listen. Can I Can I explain Can I explain a little bit? Can I explain a little bit? >> You trust that? >> Can I explain a little bit? >> No, you can't explain. You trust me. So next time I'll let someone just come in and break in and steal stuff. >> If you want to play that, >> ma'am, how is I to know that was your property? >> Why did you come on here? >> How did I know it was your property? >> You don't need to know. And then you got arrested. >> Your husband's not arrested. He's just being detained. I didn't know. Oh my goodness. I'm not I'm not arguing. The house number ends in 35. Where's the house actually at? Cuz the number on the face is different than the mailbox. Where's that house at? >> This is new construction house right here. >> Okay. This house. What is this house number right here? >> Right there on the front page. >> The 1757. >> That's 104. >> The 17335. Where is that house at? >> What you mean? Where it's at? This is all one property. >> See, now if we just talked, it would have been a completely different conversation. >> You should have never did that, sir. You just pulled in. What? You do I own this? That is wrong, man. You got your cuffs the only type and we stay here. This is our problem. >> And this is the moment that outraged the online community. The wife screamed in the rain live streaming the moment her husband's handcuffs were removed right in her yard. >> Back face that way. Which one's tight right now? Both. >> Okay. Okay. All right. >> I ain't going nowhere, man. >> No, we ain't >> I'm not going nowhere, sir. This is but I again, Mr. Jackson, I don't know that until I verify everything. All right. >> I'm just saying. >> Step out. I'll put them around in the front and then you can sit then we'll sit back inside. Okay. >> Go ahead and try I can't police officer that is on our property. >> Okay. Just go and face the car for me tight. >> All right. Face the car. >> My husband. >> He ain't arresting me, baby. >> He's not under arrest. >> I don't care. You put him in handcuffs on the property >> right now. He's just being detained. Okay. So, when I do when I release your left arm, just turn around and face. >> We are trespassing on our own property. Can you believe this? Now, he's taking the handcuffs off my husband. >> Remember, I don't care if you cord. Take a couple steps back. Okay. >> You know, >> take a couple steps back. Step back, baby. >> Step back. Step back. Cuz there's something wrong with it. Step back. I'm going to see my lawyer tomorrow. Just want to show you what happened. >> Stupid kid. You're stupid. Hold on. All right. >> Go. You need to go live, baby. >> Turn. We have the property owner. >> Just go like that. Go like that. Nope. Turn your wrist that way. There you go. I don't want to turn sideways on you. Okay. >> Mhm. >> All right. I'll adjust this one. Okay. >> I did not mean to make you drop your biscuit. All right, man. Somebody tell you they stay here. We stay here. >> You should You should have never pulled on nobody, man. I ain't going to argue with you, but you dead wrong. And you know you wrong. You in big trouble for this, bro. >> Civil rights experts say this was an illegal detention and search, lacking reasonable suspicion and showing signs of violating the right to privacy on a citizen's own property. Although there is no solid evidence of racial discrimination, the police actions demonstrate a serious abuse of power and ignorance of the law. Society is only truly safe when power is placed under the light of law and morality. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? 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