Institution right to videape. Go ahead. >> You said it was a nice >> You don't have 40 lbs of equipment on you. You're not wearing one of these to stop. >> Get away from your car. Whoa. Hey, why you pushing me? Get your hand off of me. Get from your car. I can stand wherever I want. >> Stand back so you can >> I can stand wherever I want. You can't. >> What seemed like a simple encounter unexpectedly escalated into a tense battle of wits between power and citizenship. The first thing I said when I walked up here was that uh you can press this button after hours and then you can get a dispatcher. It's like calling 911 who push this button. >> Just one camera, but it made the whole armed police team appear as if they were chasing criminals. >> Three citizens with cameras and just a few minutes later, an armed force appeared as if they were chasing dangerous criminals >> poking holes in me. So when I got people that are doing exactly what you're doing, we call that recon. >> In a split second, five six armed officers suddenly appeared surrounding the group of citizens as if they were solving a major crime. What was really going on behind those badges? >> That was you're basing that under the wiretapping statue. Is that what you're saying? The building? >> Yeah. You can't you can't you can't get my foot. You can me all you want. You just can't check out. >> That's okay. I just telling you I just need to know what you're doing on the premises. That's all you can film all you want to. I just want to make sure I basic [Applause] What's going on guys? [Music] You guys doing like a documentary or something? H you guys doing like a documentary or something? >> I don't answer questions. >> You don't answer questions. What's going on here? You guys having a meeting or something? >> I don't have problems with the video. [Applause] >> One, two, three, four, five, six armed people around us. >> I mean, they can do they can do whatever they want, >> right? A group of citizens reported being intimidated by armed men while the police countered, "You are plotting to provoke a lawsuit." The argument was tense. Which side is the truth? >> Anything else? Cuz we're out of here. >> Just one more if there's another case that just got settled for the state attorney's office. It's Madonna versus Fernandez. That's covered in ours area as well. >> Have a nice day. I had >> You don't like when I tell you case law? >> I I it doesn't matter to me. >> Will you look at I'm just making sure that you guys aren't moving aren't aren't doing anything wrong. You guys can do whatever you want. Have a nice day. >> But do you mind if you look up >> constitutional right to videape? >> You said it was a felony record, but you said it's a felony recording. >> But if you look up Madonna versus Fernandez and then Smith be Cummings. That one was just in 2018. >> Enjoy yourself. >> We want to deal with it. >> There you go. >> I mean, it's just easy. >> Have a nice day. Hey, >> see you later. >> Get your right. We did about nine of you guys showed up. when you start videotaping our personal vehicle. >> Listen, you guys are dismissed. You don't have to hang out. >> 94303, guys. Look it up. >> 943 >> B comments. Look it up. Hernandez versus uh look it up. >> Semantics with you. I'm telling you, if you come in personal vehicles, we're going to find out what you're doing. We're going to ask you. And if that's a violation or that makes you upset, so it goes. >> No, it's not. >> That's just the way it is. Nobody's in handcuffs. Nobody's rights have been stifled. So, guess what, gentlemen? We're gonna talk to you. Walk away. Walk away, too. You can walk away, too. >> Hey, just real quick, like I was saying, if you I know you cited the wiretapping statue. I know you're gonna leave, but you wire it up versus Fernandez. It was just becoming would you like to see it pass with a I'll post it later so you guys can see it. Guys, let's let's let's take all this let's take all this awesome like >> and just focus on the one, you know, problem here. >> The police conceded the right to film, but immediately a vague warning of possible arrest rang out. What was behind it? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. So, why would you step out? I mean, if you see a human being out here, don't they have a right to be here? >> Not if they're back here. Not if they're back. >> No one was back here. No one was back here, though. >> This is restricted. But you guys are videotaping Gentlemen, I'm just telling you if something like that were to happen in your personal home, I would go and I would investigate that to find out to give you peace of mind. You don't have 40 lbs of equipment on you. You're not wearing one of these that stop bullets. And I don't want to s have somebody standing over in the woods with a rifle poking holes in me. >> So, when I got people that are doing exactly what you're doing, we call that recon in a tactical sense. You're trying to find out exactly where cars are parked and what the avenues of shooting is. Now, you say you're not doing it. I need to know. >> Okay. >> Because it's my life. >> This is recon. So, this is what the army does when they go around the military. >> No, you're missing the point. Recon is something that you would never see if it was actually occurring. >> Let's be real. Come on, man. Let's be real. Who are they sending out? The cub scouts to recon? You're not you're you're not sending out a Navy Seal to recon and you're going to see them? I don't think so, sir. >> And that's all I'm going to I'm going to find out that you guys are on the level. >> All right. We're going to see eye to eye here. So, we're we're on the level. >> You film all you want to. I have no problem with that. You want to stand on the sidewalk and film us coming in and out, by all means, do it. If you want to police department, call them agency. We'll get you set. >> Wanted to get all this on camera letting you know your rights have not been violated. All we did was stand out and talk to you to figure out when we came up to talk. >> The only place where we felt it was is when he says it's a felony report is >> it is a felony. It is not a felony. Absolutely. I promise you it is not. >> Then if it shows up on YouTube, >> then we'll figure it out. >> We can figure it out. >> How should I title it so that you'll find it on YouTube? Cuz I want to make sure you see it. >> What should I title the video? >> When a group of citizens enter the headquarters, face their superiors, the mistake is admitted, but is a promise to look into it enough to erase the shadow of power. >> No, if you're an official cassier duty, you have the ability to report any public official. Uh even this lady over here talking um sergeant out there says uh and I had to back which that's where it restricted my first amendment right is that I had to back off because he says if you record me without my permission I'm going to arrest you for a felony. >> You can't do that. >> You cannot do that. I just I think we deescalated you guys deescalated a little bit down there. All we do is we go around and um we do first amendment audits, do hip audits. We check and see if everything is good with most police departments. There's a form right there. I'll leave it up here. Um, so what this is, this is just a form. I'll leave it over here if you want. I'll take it if you can. >> But um, but all we do is just go around and we check things. We do tours. I giveformational tours about different departments. The first thing I said when I walked up here was that uh, you can press this button after hours and then you can get a dispatcher. It's like calling 911 who push this button. And then next thing you know, we have a gentleman that's walking down the parking lot in a bike shirt wouldn't identify himself. And if you don't mind, I won't put my hand all the way back to the beginning is back in the middle of his waistband. And I said, "Who are you? What are you doing?" >> Yeah. what what's going on? Uh um what's your name? I was trying to find out who he was. I think he came from the police department. Wouldn't identify himself. I confirmed that you guys are no longer fully accredited. Um and I just said, "What are you doing?" So, if he's not going to talk to me, I'm not going to talk to you. First thing you should do is is at least identify yourself. It's in your policy to do so, right? But the more troublesome thing is that felony that says I'm threatening to be arrested for felony. So, what did I do? I had to stop all my activities and walk away because I feel like he's going to address me whether it's whether it's guilty or not is there or not if I'm charged with it or not. It's still it's stopping me from doing >> Well, what he's referring to is it actually came from a judge just a couple months ago when I and it was my case. I was on a traffic court case and a guy brought his phone and said, >> "Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US code SS1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/ police chief. The incident highlights the risks of police abuse when they use criminal intimidation to restrict constitutional rights. Citizens say they will post the incident on YouTube and may file a lawsuit if necessary. Up next, as soon as the cameras were turned on, citizens were met with tense stares from Antioch police. But it was just the beginning. >> What if somebody can't pronounce your name? >> You didn't ask that, did you? >> I asked you your name. It's that simple, right? Policy says state your name, right? Okay. >> So, anyway, see you later. >> As soon as he appeared, the sergeant avoided giving his name. A heated debate broke out. Who really works for the public? >> Be curious, bud. Go ahead and keep on going. I'll see you later. Okay. See you later. >> Show me all day you want. It doesn't bother me. What's >> your name and badge number? >> Name's right here. >> Your name's right here? >> Yep. >> I think I met uh maybe one of your cousins before. >> His name was right here, too. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Just wondering, you guys have like Do you guys have like inbred parents or something? >> What's your name? >> They named all you guys right here. >> What's your name? >> K. >> I think I asked the question first. Okay. My name's off Sergeant Martin. So, >> what's your name? >> Oh, now we're identifying oursel. >> Good job. >> It's easy to identify. What are you talking about? It's right here. >> What if somebody can't pronounce your name? >> You didn't ask that, did you? >> I asked you your name. It's that simple, right? Policy says state your name, right? >> Okay. >> So, anyway, see you later. Go back to work, babe. >> Yeah, I am at work. >> You're at work? >> I am at work. >> Don't get so close here. I don't know why you're getting that close to me for. Go ahead and just >> try to figure out what you're doing here. >> Step on back. Am I okay? >> Am I being detained? >> No, not at all. >> Okay, then get back to work. What are you doing here? Waste of money for it. >> Not wasting any money. >> Yes, you are. It's a waste of money right here. >> Okay, >> go back to work. >> You're dismissed. Go ahead. >> Yeah, you're not my boss, but thank you very much. >> I am your boss. I'm the public. You guys work for the public, right? Okay. >> Do you work for the public? Yes or no? >> Yes or no? Do you work for the public? It's easy question. >> Okay. >> No, it shouldn't take that long. I >> know you're trying to antagonize me. >> I'm not antagonize you and it's a simple question. You're being a dick, so I'm asking you. Yeah. So, I'm asking you, do you work for the public? >> While you're filming, >> and you're not going to get an answer. Just go back to work. >> This is my job. >> Okay. >> Just because he was standing near an official vehicle, a sergeant suddenly took action, pushing back a citizen right in front of the camera. Is this security or blatant abuse of power? Get away from your car. Whoa. Hey, why you pushing me? Get your hand off of me. Get your hand off of me. I don't have to get away from your car. I can stand wherever I want. >> Stand back is what you can do. >> I can stand wherever I want. You can't tell me where I can and can't stand. >> You can get away from my car. >> And I can record you guys while you're doing your job. You're >> good. >> I don't have to get away from your car. Is your body cam on? Where's your body cam? >> I don't have body cam. >> Where's your body cam? >> What's your name? >> Name and badge number. >> I can stand wherever I want. You can't tell me where I can and can't stand. I am. What's the law I broke? What law did I break? What law did I break? >> He had stuff in here. >> What law did I break? >> You can walk away now. >> What law did I break? >> You can walk away. >> I'm not walking away. That's I'm going to stand my ground. What law did I break? >> I can stand next to your car. I can lean on your car. I can touch car. I can do whatever I want. That's not even your car. That's our car. That's the public's car, >> right? So, there's nothing you can do about it. So, get your little happy ass back to work. Get out of my face. >> [ __ ] tyrant. >> You ain't nothing but just a tyrant. What's this guy's badge number? Don't worry. We'll get a complaint in on you. >> Tell me I can't stand next to your car touching me. Is it okay to put your hands on a citizen like that? Huh? Answer the question, tyrant. Is it okay to put your hands on a citizen like that just because they're standing somewhere you don't like? Citizens demanded the immediate arrest of the sergeant for pushing the person, but the silent reaction from his teammates behind him made the whole scene freeze. >> Did he push me? Was I breaking the law? Do you have reasonable suspicion of a crime? What was your reasonable suspicion of a crime that you had to grab me and physically detain me? >> I have it on camera, you dumbass. >> It's on camera. >> Good. >> You can't move somebody away from your car cuz you don't like where they're standing. No, you can't. No, you can't. >> I'll tell you what. If you want to walk that way, go right to the front office. You can file a complaint right over there. >> You want to That's what you want to do. >> I'm I'm just get I'm just documenting the fact that he's not doing his job because there's a citizen's complaint now against his piece of trash sergeant who shouldn't even be allowed to be a police officer. >> Bad tyrant trash officers like you get good officers killed. Yep. Yep. Just a clown ass little kid, aren't you? If you didn't have that badge and you didn't have that gun, you're probably a coward. You would never touch me like that, would you? Would you? >> Just a coward. Just another coward. >> Keep antagonizing much. >> I'm not antagonizing. You just touched me. You violated my rights. You don't think I'm agitated right now? As a matter of fact, I'm not even agitated. I'm rape. >> Okay. >> And then you got your partner here who won't place you under citizens arrest because guess what? It's the Blue Line gang, right? Where's your Blue Line flag at? I'm sure you got one. No, >> sure you got one somewhere. In your car, on your phone, it's somewhere. So, why don't you get the hell out of here instead of trying to uh uh bully and and uh pressure citizens to do what you want them to do cuz somebody's standing by your car. Get out of here, you clown. Go. >> The camera was just about to turn to the evidence when a sergeant suddenly stepped in, admitting he was trying to block the footage. What were they afraid of being exposed to the public? The police could face internal complaints, the threat of civil lawsuits for violating their constitutional rights, public pressure, and calls for policy and training reforms. >> So, if I stand here and try to film, you're going to block me again? I >> sure am. Yeah. >> Why would you do that? >> Why would you do that? >> What? Film? >> Yep. >> Because I can. >> Okay. And I can just >> It's a It's a protected activity. You could stand right there. It doesn't mean you need to block my camera everywhere I go. >> Wherever I want. >> But I can't. Huh? I didn't say >> I can't walk close to your car. You can walk wherever you want. >> I can know you can't touch your car. Remember I got this all on film from earlier. >> I can't get close to your car. You come shove me and grab me, right? Real lucky you got that badge and gun, babe. Cuz I tell you what, you'd have been on the floor. >> Are you threatening the police officer? Is that what you're talking? >> Negative. I'm just saying. Somebody grabs you, I have the right to defend myself. >> Somebody grabs me and pushes me and grab me, I'm going to defend myself. Obvious, right? You would defend yourself, correct? >> Okay. That's all I'm saying. And it's self-defense and it's legal. Somebody grabs you and assaults you, you're going to defend yourself. Common sense, right? Okay. So, we got this piece of trash wannabe officer right here, guys. He says he's a sergeant, but he ain't my sergeant. He's a clown. He's pushing me, grabbing me cuz I got close to his car. This clown right here saw it and won't do anything. I tried to file a citizen's arrest. He won't place him under arrest because it was okay apparently to assault the public. Um, just because they stood somewhere he didn't like. Just because I stood somewhere you didn't like. Now he's blocking my camera, which you said you were doing, right? You're blocking me from filming. Correct. Okay, cool. So, I just wanted to make sure of that. >> Society is only strong when power is controlled and people are respected. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. Next, a man appears in the middle of the city with a camera in hand. But when he asks a seemingly innocent question, is this public land? An unbelievable chain of events begins. >> You can ask nicely. >> Do you want me to go home and get you want me to go fishing? >> Do you want me to go fishing? >> That's fine. This is no free speed zone. It >> just like all these people. I do agree with you. I love that you record. >> Shut up. >> With just a few words and a tough attitude, he made the security guard angry, the police confused, and everything quickly got out of control. >> Um, the building is, you know, we're all city buildings. Okay. Now, we have an event going on. >> Look, man. It says >> city of Port St. Lucy. >> Not listening. >> I am standing on public property. >> I'm asking you nicely. You can ask nicely. >> Do you want me to go home and get you want me to go fishing? >> Oh, I don't agree with none. >> I do agree with you. I love that you record. >> Hey, security guard, you have no legal authority. You can't even enforce Florida State statute and they gave you some stupid badge and some stupid gun. I do. >> You want You want >> He's exercising his first amendment. He's recording us. >> We know what's going on. He makes YouTube videos. He makes Tik Tok videos. >> Dude, I aware of what's going on. I don't even have a Tik Tok. >> Somebody recorded you. >> They steal my stuff and put it on TikTok. >> You guys obviously know who I am. You know damn well I'm not doing anything wrong. Leave me alone. >> Trying to verify it. >> Leave me alone. >> I am out here because it's nice weather. It's beautiful. >> Welcome to First Amendment. I should be able to come out here and speak whatever I want to speak. This is a public area. Anybody can walk up and down. >> Have I detained you? Have I said anything negative to >> [ __ ] stupid sergeant over? He walked away. He walked away. I hope it's good. >> And so if I walk through here with my rifle on my way to fishing, are you going to try to stop me? >> So what's the difference between my second amendment walking through here and me just standing here using my first amendment? >> I'm having a >> There's no difference. >> So So he's a first first amendment agitator. >> Yeah. So what he does is he walks around with his AR-15. He's done it for years. >> Know him. He's mentally ill >> and and he No, he's very well. When he mentioned the AR-15, the tension in the air grew. But what was more shocking was the legal reason he claimed to carry the weapon. >> Call whatever sergeant, whatever. How about this, dude? I'm going to because you guys are going to push this to this point. >> I don't care. I'm on. Look, man. You can ask nicely. Do you want me to go home and get you want me to go fishing? Do you want me to go fishing? But if I go fishing, >> I think these guys know what I'm talking about. If I go fishing, it's only going to create more problems for you and your freaking This is no free speech zone. It just like all these people. >> I don't agree with her recording me. That's against her free speech. Right. >> I don't agree with it. Why don't you tell these people, "Oh, I don't agree with I do agree with you. I love that you record. You have no legal authority. You can't even enforce Florida state statutes." And they gave you some stupid badge and some stupid gun. It doesn't bother me. I I probably have more guns than you. >> I pro I bet you I do. >> You want to You want to have >> He's exercising his First Amendment. He's recording us. >> We know what's going on. He makes YouTube videos. He makes Tik Tok videos. We are aware of what's going on. >> I don't even have a Tik Tok channel. >> Okay. Well, >> whoever puts out that stuff, >> somebody recorded you. >> They steal my stuff and then put it on Tik Tok. I do. >> You know damn well I'm not anything wrong >> and we're trying to verify it. >> Leave me alone. >> We're trying to verify it. >> Leave me alone. challenged law enforcement with a simple question. Do you really understand what the first amendment is? And no one could answer. >> It's beautiful. >> Welcome to First Amendment. I should be able to come out here and speak whatever I want to speak. This is a public freaking stupid sergeant over >> He walked away. He walked away. He walked away to verify. >> Why don't you guys stand up for my rights? >> I'm Why aren't you stand away? >> We're not disputing you. >> I don't need to walk away. >> Everybody walks away. The same way you have the right to be here, I have the right to stand here. >> And guess what? >> We're having a conversation. >> The same thing that's gonna happen. >> We're having a conversation. >> If you kick me off this property, I promise I'm literally going to go fishing and I'm going to walk through here and find every little pond and I'm going to bring my nice fancy new rifle with me. >> Okay. >> What's the difference between my Second Amendment walking through here and me just standing here using my First Amendment? What's the difference? >> I'm having a >> There's no difference. I don't want to talk to you. I didn't >> what part of I don't want to talk to any this >> I said I am talking to you what's his name >> name you can read you read it before >> Roberts you'll be put on YouTube >> so >> that's what I do I expose how much how much you how much money this city pays you to do a shitty job on protecting our right you don't even understand the first amendment do you >> name the five elements >> I'm obviously standing here having a conversation >> have I told you to leave >> finally With a profanity, he walked away, but with a veiled warning. I'll be back in 5 minutes. And this time with more than just words. >> Oh, is this is this a city? >> I'm not in the event. >> I'm sitting standing in front of Port St. Lucy Province right here. >> So, if you're going to tell me to leave under threat of arrest, no. I I want I want everybody to understand what's about to happen. >> No, what's about to happen? I'm actually >> Shut your mouth. I'll leave you. Don't yourself. I'll see you in a little bit. Call your buddies. Tell them there's going to be a guy walking around with an AR-15 here in about five minutes. >> All I said was >> I feel you. >> I'm about to walk through around here right now. Okay. So, what he does is he walks around with his AR-15. He's done it for years. >> We know him. >> Yes. >> And and he No, no, he's very well educated. >> No, >> he's very well educated. >> So, so the way the way he pays his salary is through law. He literally walks by and and wants somebody to violate his rights so he can sue them. >> Yeah. That's why I don't feed into his negativity. >> Where do I have to go? I don't have to go off the public to get out the side. >> I know it's city public. >> It's actually private property open. >> The man left after swearing but warned that he would return with a legal gun. Police discussed blocking the entrance and even considered adjusting the sign to restrict him, indicating an attempt to limit constitutional rights in a way that could be considered unconstitutional. [Music]