Sir, I don't show credentials unless I am I'm forced to. You're a Republican. >> I'm not going to give you my ID. I haven't broken any laws. >> You know, I'm not saying you committed a crime. You didn't hurt me or anything. I feel very, >> I don't know, invaded, threatened. >> In the middle of a seemingly peaceful public building, an unexpected statement caused the whole space to explode with controversy. >> Have any paperwork other than the United States Constitution? >> The United States Constitution doesn't apply here. Yeah. No, I I wasn't there. >> As the warning sounded, tensions rose by the minute. A sudden decision turned the tide in a way no one had anticipated. >> You're not allowed to be here in this building. Recording said you can't. I'm asking you for your credentials. >> As soon as the door opened, a cold command rang out. As soon as the door opened, a cold command rang out. >> If you'd like, you can call law enforcement. >> It's our policy. >> If you'd like, you can call law enforcement. It seems like you want to follow policies that imply that you want to >> I don't want to follow any policy. >> Okay. You are in this building. You are subject to submerge. >> In the middle of the public hall, a cold voice rang out. The Constitution. It doesn't work here. The entire audience was stunned. The law was forgotten. Or was there something else behind it? You >> mind if I get your name? >> My name's Supervisor McCarron. >> And my name is Sean, sir. And your name, sir? >> Supervisor Dowling. >> Supervisor Dling. Nice to meet you. your business here today? >> Oh, I'm just taking some pictures and video. I'm an independent journalist. I'm working on a story on the Department of Corrections here. >> Gotcha. Do you have any kind of paperwork? >> Do I have any paperwork? >> Yep. >> Other than the United States Constitution. >> That doesn't apply here for this. We have our policy here. So, I would like you >> The United States Constitution doesn't apply here. >> What you're trying to do does not apply to this. You cannot record here. We have a policy that says you cannot record in our building. >> That policy trumps the United States Constitution of freedom of press. anything our policy for his building. You're not allowed to be here in his building recording. He said you can't. So, I'm going to ask you to remove yourself from the building. >> I'm not breaking any laws. I'm not You know, you're talking about your policy. I'm not breaking any laws. If you'd like, you can call law enforcement. >> It's our policy. >> You can remove yourself. >> But that's not against the law. >> You're the same guy that was at the jail. >> Where? >> The women's prison. >> Oh, no. I never went there before. Yeah. No, I wasn't there. Other than videotaping, you have no business. >> Well, yeah, I want to do a Freedom of Information Act request, but I'm just taking some picture and video right now. Again, this is not a secure area I'm in or anything like that. >> I understand that it's state property definitely funded by taxpayers. I understand that. I get it. It's just I'm not in any secure or restricted areas. And your policy, your policy doesn't apply to me. I'm not bound by your policies. I'm bound by the law and the United States Constitution, which you said doesn't apply here for some reason. No, you're okay. So, here's the thing. You have no other business other than being in the building. So, I decide to remove you from the building. >> The tense moment of confrontation. Where are the papers? No need. Just one wrong step and everything could explode. >> Oh, I I'm sure I could produce some credentials for you. >> Credentials right now, sir. >> Yeah. No, I don't have to give them to you, though. >> No, you didn't. You asked me for credentials. >> Can you take Can you just take a step back, please? >> I'm in my building. I'm asking you for your credentials, but I'm asking you for your credentials. >> I'm asking for your credentials. >> Hey, sir. How are you? >> Where's your credentials, sir? >> Sir, can I see your credentials? >> Your credentials is what? >> As a as an officer, this is my credentials. So, >> you're an officer with the Department of Correction. >> Where's your credentials, sir? >> Sir, I don't show credentials unless I am I am I'm forced to a publicist. You said >> I am. No, I'm a journalist. You cannot see my You cannot see my credentials. You cannot see you I don't need credentials and you can't see my license. I'm not going to give you my ID. I haven't broken any laws. Again, if you look at the sign right next to them, authorized visitors. >> Well, I do. I just told you I'm doing a foyer request and I'm working on a story here on the Department of Corrections. What do you guys have to hide in the public lobby? >> You contact the proper authorities in our building for the state to do this in the state building. >> No, because I don't I would if I needed to, but I don't need to. >> You're doing that. So, we're asking the same thing as here. You're not once again authorized to be you can't make that determination. >> We just made the determinations right here. It seems like you want to follow policies that apply that you want. >> I don't want to follow any policy. >> Okay. But you're saying what you want and it's our building that we're responsible for for our building. >> No, that's not the law, sir. >> But it's our building. >> You can make a sign that says no black people allowed in a building. No black people allowed. If you let me, sir, you're being racist. I would like you to leave the building. >> I'm not being racist at all, sir. >> A tense command rang out. Hands out of pockets. He might have a knife. The invisible fear made the atmosphere seem like it was about to explode. But what was the truth behind it? You can always look up my name. You can ask any offender who knows me. So your assumption is totally wrong. >> I will conduct my investigation into you and I will figure that out. And if it is true that you are >> that you are cordial with people. But >> your actions here don't display that today. Sir, it >> doesn't have to. Your actions display this. >> Excuse me. There's no >> then take your hands. >> There's nothing. There's no weapons in my pocket. You just saw I just showed you. >> I don't know what's in the bottom of it because you're being a tyrant. >> No, I am not being a tyrant. >> You are being a tyrant. You have no right to >> You have no You are subject to search. If you are in this building, you are subject to search. >> Where does it say that? >> Asking you to take your hand out of your pocket. >> Sir, I just showed you there's nothing in my pocket other than a cell phone. >> Anybody's a cell phone? Why are you scared for? >> Sir, >> you are scared. You tell I can't put my hand in my pocket cuz you're scared. >> I'm showing you what the sign says. >> Right. Right. I'm not in a restricted area. This is a publicly accessible area. >> Says restricted. >> I know that. >> It says any person or vehicle in the property subject to service. makes you makes you uh have the authority to violate my rights, my fourth amendment right of unreasonable searches and seizures. >> I don't what what about my ID would make me make you feel safely. So what about my ID or credentials would make you feel safe? I mean you're acting scared by saying get your hands out of your pocket. That's acting scared, sir. >> For you guys have weapons. I don't all I have is a camera. That's all I have. >> Thing about this whole thing is you create a narrative which I like. >> We step away from their window cuz that that's something totally different. except wait for they're conducting business of their way. >> I mean, if somebody comes up, I'll move out of the way. >> Once again, I ask you something polite. You're way >> I will move out of their way. >> But I'm ask out of their way. >> No, but they're not in the I'm not in anybody's way. Again, you're just you're just trying to feed me directives because that's what you're used to doing. You're used they're used to following your directives without question. No, I'm not finished speaking, sir. >> When the new force appeared, it was thought that it would cool down. But suddenly, a decision to close the books before the time made everything change direction. Nice to meet you, sir. >> So, what can we do today? What are we doing? What's >> Oh, I'm I'm an independent journalist. My name is Sean. I'm just working on a story here on the Department of um corrections here. I'm not going to any restricted areas, any enclosed areas. Just getting some pictures, some B-roll footage, and that's it. Oh, sure. You can go ahead and talk to him. That's fine. >> Talk to you over here, right? >> Hi, sir. How are you? >> Good. How about yourself? >> I'm doing well. Do you mind if I get your name and badge number? What's going on? >> Oh, nothing. >> Oh, yeah. No, I'll repeat myself. Not a problem. No, I'm just My name is Sean. I'm an independent journalist. I'm just taking some pictures and video of the publicly accessible areas here for my story. Nothing nefarious is going on here. You're not going into restricted areas. >> What did they say? >> They said that they said that I'm not allowed to take pictures in public and that they were going to physically remove me from the building. And uh they called you guys. So, we've been waiting for you to show up. That's all. That's it. And we're just going to see what happens next, I guess. >> Oh, yeah. This is the department in general. Just, you know, the different services. I've received some tips from people about the department. So, I'm just investigating in general because the the story is not published yet. That's all. >> All right. So, can I just talk to you outside, see what's going on? >> Yeah, I mean, we can talk right here, sir. That's fine. >> All right. So, what business do you have here? >> Like I said, I'm engaged in a constitutionally protected activity. I'm just taking some getting some B-roll footage in the publicly accessible areas here. That's my business here, sir. >> Do you have all the footage that you need? >> Oh, no. Not yet. No. >> Okay. So, what else do you needing? Plus, I just have the right to be in public. There is no law against being in public and recording. >> Here's the issue we have here. So, this is parole probation. >> Right? >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US code SS1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/ police chief. The incident exposed the gaps in legal knowledge of many officers, and the risk of abuse of power when using policy instead of law. Up next, from the very first seconds, a fierce confrontation broke out. A small camera was enough to shake the whole area. >> You know, I'm not saying he's committing crime. He didn't hurt me or anything. He actually threatened to put his hands on me with dispatch. >> I asked if I could take your hand. >> Okay. >> Well, unfortunately, you're in public. >> Thank you. >> Warnings rang out. Stop filming now. But on the other side, a cold reply sparked a debate about freedom and the law. >> I'm not going to make it easy for you. Can't really see my face anyway. So, >> yeah, cuz you hide behind a mask. >> Yeah. Well, you should, too. Are you supposed to be taking pictures on this property too? Or should I report you also? Sir, what was your name? Security. You got a name? No. He's got a bum leg. See that? He said he's going to report me. Oh. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Interesting. Good. You >> I'm a little busy right now. >> Not supposed to be taking videos or pictures of the building. >> What do you mean? >> Are you recording right now? >> I can't hear you. Am I What? >> Are you recording? >> Am I recording? Yeah, I Yeah, I'm recording. I'm taking pictures. Recording. All right. >> Oh, it is. Nice. You work for a secure house? >> Yeah. >> Nice. Cool. Cool. Is that your vehicle? >> That's a patrol vehicle. >> Nice. Got sirens on there. Non- emergency. Yeah. >> Cool, man. So, >> what are you doing? >> Yeah, I'm uh like I said, I was a little busy. Um just taking some pictures. Um >> just one 911 call. And then the police cars came. But what really happened behind that seemingly urgent call? >> This is a private land. >> No, it's not. >> It's a private way. >> It's a private way. >> Yeah, I know. It's public access. Dude, I don't want a problem. Why are you Why are you causing problems? >> I'm not causing problem. I'm minding my business. You approached me. >> You were taking pictures of the federal building. >> I don't care. I'm on public. >> We're doing what you need to do. >> In the meantime, I'm going to get your plate and I'm going to get your VIN and I'm going to look inside your vehicle. >> Just go. You were told not to entertain me, so don't entertain me. >> I'm very uncomfortable. >> I don't care. Then go inside. That's private property. I'm minding my own business. I'm taking pictures on a public access road >> of me. Dude, you're making me feel very personally. >> Oh, well, call the ambulance or the freaking 911. >> How would you feel if someone was doing it to you? >> They do. >> Who doesn't? >> I don't know. Just any average citizen who has every right to record and and take pictures. >> I think it's a little rude >> to approach somebody and tell them they can't do something they're legally able to do. Yeah, I do. Actually, >> I wasn't trying to >> Oh, you you were not offended. I I'm not a crybaby over a camera. You are. So, >> it makes me a little uncomfortable. Well, that's too bad. You should probably move out of the country then. >> Wait, why would you be like that? >> Just walk away, dude. >> Dude, you know how uncomfortable this makes me feel? You know how uncomfortable this makes me feel? >> Oh, well then call the call the feelings police cuz you know they enforce laws and your uh feelings aren't law. So, >> you were told to just walk away on the scanner. So, just go mind your business. >> He's not on a scanner, dude. He was You didn't hear it? >> It ain't got nothing to do with it. >> He's harassing me. He's taking pictures. Taking pictures of my truck. He's taking some pictures of me. Making He's making me feel very uncomfortable. >> A w This is happening at General Dynamics. >> As tensions rise, an unexpected move leaves law enforcers with the law in a way they never expected. >> You know, you're right in the middle of two spots. >> I'm going to have to give you a parking ticket. >> Absolutely. >> How we doing? >> Good. >> I'm going to write you a violation, sir. Don't mind the building. People do things like that. >> There you go, sir. I'm going to give you a parking ticket. >> My truck. >> You don't mind? >> There's a parking violation for parking like an [ __ ] >> No, I'd rather hear the reporting party. >> Excuse me. >> I asked him to stop filming. He didn't want to stop. So, I you know, not saying he's committing crime. He didn't hurt me or anything. Oh, so you called the police on for a non-emergency. >> I feel very I don't know invaded threatened. You know, >> I didn't threaten him at all. >> No, he >> he actually threatened to put his hands on me with dispatch. >> I did not threaten. I asked if I could take his hand. >> Okay. >> Well, unfortunately, you're in public. >> Thank you. >> Is this a private way? >> I already called the solicitor's office. >> Give me a second. All right. I'll talk to you in a minute. >> Kind of wishywashing as far as this being a public or private knowing these people can do this and might be >> just made me uncomfortable. >> And I understand like you know you said you're not here to buffer my feelings, right? But I just feel come to work and not feel harassed. >> Me too. Well, I I could talk all I want. >> Okay. Well, >> if you want me to resolve the situation, I need to stop. >> Well, I will if you don't. So, >> so what does that mean? >> If you don't resolve it, I will. Oh, annoying. Exercising their rights is now annoying. What's your name and badge number? Torah. What's your name? >> Why don't you say it? >> Tora. >> Torah. Thank you. You don't have an ID number. >> No. >> You don't? Three units now, huh? Wow. Amazing. See all the resources you're wasting. >> You should be sorry. Yeah, they they're still getting paid. So, name badge number, sir. >> What's your name badge number? Oh, he called 911. Come on. That's got to be a little funny. >> Look at that, man. You guys are educated. I appreciate that. >> Eventually, the truth came out. The red and blue lights faded. No one was arrested, but the excessive force mobilized for illegal filming incident showed the risk of abuse of power and ignorance of the law by some individuals. >> It is true. Come on. I know more than you think I know. >> So, you got a you got a um business card? You guys don't have business cards? >> Don't pay for them. >> We don't pay for them, right? Anyway, yeah, if you could just if you could just ask him to identify himself, I'd have no problem leaving. >> K9, it's a state law, man. It's so simple. I'm not going to relax. He says, "Hold on. Go back on the sidewalk." He rolls up his window and then speaks through it. It's just rude, you know? And now you got four units for this. Come on, dude. You guys might have to get uh defunded. Come on. I'll give in to you. Make you feel better. Go ahead. Really? >> I'm done. Done doing what I'm doing. >> Are you? That's it. If you even have one. >> I don't have a badge. >> What's your name? >> Officer Slater. >> Slater. Yeah. >> Awesome. That's it, man. >> Okay. >> How how how difficult was that? >> Would you like to provide your information? >> No, not to you. Not at all. >> Okay. >> My name right here, though. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. You like that? >> Why would you ever think I would do that? >> Cuz I'm not your ordinary [ __ ] citizen that don't know their rights, right? It's a good try though. You could ask. >> I did ask. >> I know. >> I ask very nicely. >> Yeah. >> Oh, look at this paw. Unbelievable. Is that education in the process or what? >> In a free society, every citizen has the right to record and monitor public authorities. That is the foundation of transparency and democracy. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> Okay, your back, please. >> Say again. >> In Ohio, apparently walking and waving is enough to get you pulled over. >> Waving your hands and people worried about you getting hurt. That's what you watch. A young man was just practicing boxing on the side of the road, but less than 30 seconds later, he was arrested by the police without explanation. Why? >> I'm a boxer. I was doing this. I wasn't doing I got time for all this. >> No, no, we're not doing this. We're not doing this. >> Just got to sit down and talk. >> I don't know what you're going to do, but you're acting I >> handcuffed, pulled back by the arms until screaming in pain, the victim kept begging. But what made the police officer still hold on tight and not let go? >> And people were worried about you getting hurt. >> I'm a boxer. I was doing this. I wasn't doing >> I got time for all this. >> No. No. We're not doing this. Put your hands on your back. >> Say again. >> What you watch is pension. Okay. Relax. >> Respect. No, I will respect you, but you're not going to walk away when we're talking. >> Now I have reason to detain you because >> what? [Applause] >> God damn. >> Get on you enough. God damn. >> ID popped right there. >> See it zipper, >> dude. >> I'm goddamn scaredy. [Applause] >> Can I like Can you stop holding me and I just stand here? Walking southbound lean against just like >> Well, you keep pulling away and you're acting. >> Damn, boy. You get a badge, you think you can just touch everybody and [ __ ] huh? >> When you act like this. True. >> Act like what? Where's your supervisor? Want him now? >> I don't have a supervisor. >> Oh, yeah. You're >> like, >> I'm 100 lb soaking wet. What are you so scared of? What do you want to make something up so you can I can feel you shaking? You can just break my arm. Do whatever you want. You can take my life, right? Why don't you let go? God damn. >> I am so sore, dude. Can you please God? I will calm down. Stop. I'm already sore as >> I weigh 100 lb. Why are you so afraid of me? A desperate and angry cry for help amid a strange and unexplained restraint. >> I apologize. One more time. East Street's inquiring what mile post are you at? >> I'm within a mile of the 52 exit. I got on a 140 going northbound and encounter. >> Can I sit down? >> Half a mile. >> You're seriously my arm. >> Please. Can I sit down? >> No, we're going to stay right there. >> Yeah, I'm [ __ ] You're going to break my arm. >> I'm not breaking your arm. I'm not your arm. >> You are. It's sore. You're going to break it. >> You'll be all right. >> Oh my god, dude. You're a fool. You might as well just break it. It probably won't be so bad. >> Relax. >> Me. Relax. You relax, dude. I have to sit down and talk. >> I don't know what you're going to do, but you're acting I rate. >> So, we're going to stay like this until that's fine. >> You think you're going to take me to jail? >> I don't know. We're taking you to jail. >> If you would just relax, it would act normal. You're on your way. I'd be on my way. >> You grab me up by arm. Shut up. He's breaking it. You believe God? >> Obviously not. You don't give a [ __ ] about that magic. I think it's funny. >> I don't think it's funny. >> You love the power. >> I don't have any power whatsoever. I don't have to wait the state patrol to get here. This is their jurisdiction. >> Yeah. >> God damn. Arms are so bad. I really hope it. >> God damn. >> God damn, dude. going to be network793. >> I'm not getting anything back. >> When police admitted there was no crime to charge, the question was why is he still being held and in so much pain, but he tries to get away from me, so I handcuffed him up. Haven't searched him. >> Did you twist his shirt? >> I tried to sit down, you [ __ ] >> What? Jesus Christ. Take it off. Take the backpack off. My arm hurts. Please. Whole thing's up here. >> I I'm apparently a harm and I'm handcuffing you. >> All right, man. Listen. >> I already told you the reports, right? >> My headphones. >> No, it's Union Edward 77 9355. >> Union Edward 77935. >> What's the only thing I took off was was a knife. Okay. So, that's just for an officer. >> This illegal carry. >> It's not legal carry. Shot box. [Applause] >> I respect him and just run up on me and then grab me up and [ __ ] Like what am I going to do right now? Why you guys so scared of me? >> My backpack. Whatever the hell you want to do. I'll whip my dick out for y'all. I don't have nothing but food on me. And this goddamn just what you want to handcuff me and beat the [ __ ] out of me. Police brutality. Is that on? I want the goddamn case spot for this [ __ ] Now, >> that's fine. Listen. >> Okay. >> Listen. What? I'm >> I'm going to explain. You want me to take the headphones off of you? You want me put you in the car so you don't hear the traffic? I need you to hear me out. >> You can just take the headphones off and him. He's not holding me and [ __ ] Jesus Christ. >> He's not holding. >> Look how short my arms are. You got this [ __ ] I smell hell all over you. >> [ __ ] >> We can stand out here all day long. We just yell. >> After nearly 15 minutes of torture and pain, the victim was finally released. But what he said next made us all rethink the so-called citizen protection. >> That is legal. >> Walk you down to the end of my car. Okay. I'm going take you so extra about like >> I'm not extra about anything. >> I'm not trying to hurt no. >> Okay. I'm not I'm not extra about anything. I'm explaining to you what's going to happen. Start walking. Okay, you turn you turn around and fight, whatever the try to do any of that stuff, then of course you're going back in the handcuffs and you're going to jail. Okay, here's the other thing, too. Okay, if I get another call of you dancing in the road and I come up here and you're dancing in the road, I get it. I'll go in the middle. You're going to be in trouble. I don't want you to go in the woods. I'm just telling you just don't go in the road, man. All right. All right. Let's go. Let's go. Yes, sir. You ain't get in charge of doing that. We're just trying to do our due dilig back. >> I didn't get my ID. >> Good. [Applause] >> JZ repeatedly stressed that the police were overstepping their authority and had no legal reason to detain the man. Handcuffing and inflicting pain without a warrant or specific charges is a serious violation of civil rights. [Music]