Here you go. I got some ID right here. Uh not by you. You want to be a little tyrant. Hey, get out get out of the public building. >> I have an ID. >> Hey, hey, he went up Yeah, cuz you're not going to and if you do >> A baseless ID demand inside a public building suddenly pushed police into dangerous territory as their own abuse of power could open the door to a much bigger legal problem. >> I'm engaging in constitutionally protected activity on a on a traditional public forum. >> I didn't ask you anything else. I just asked you for >> Well, I'm just looking you know >> No, no, thank you. >> What seemed like a simple question about ID suddenly ignited the entire situation when police could not provide a clear legal basis. From there, the incident quickly escalated and opened the door to unpredictable legal consequences. No one expected something so simple inside a government building to spark such a tense confrontation. One question was asked and all eyes immediately turned to how police would respond. >> They play on Facebook. Let's go check up upstairs. >> I thought you just got up there. >> Huh? >> I thought you just got up there. >> Uh no, I think I came from downstairs. >> You have an ID, sir? >> Oh, yeah, I do. >> Can I see that, please? >> Oh, certainly. Actually, if I could freaking find it, maybe. Where you from? No, I was thinking about moving here. >> What about that? Let me see your your real ID. >> Yeah, this is. >> No. >> I'm Billy Buttkrack. >> Your real ID. >> Oh, you need the real one? >> Yep. >> Uh son of a gun. Here you go. I got some ID right here. The D. What's that? I got the ID. Here you go. >> Driver's license. >> Oh. Here you go. >> I'm going to need to see your ID, sir. Sir. >> Time to go. Let's go. You need to leave. >> Excuse me? Don't touch me. >> Touch you? >> Yeah, you just did. You just bumped me. Why? For what? What I do wrong? >> You give me your ID, but I mean >> For what? What crime? >> Let's go. >> What crime did I do? I'm here to get papers. >> Let me see that. >> I know. You can look right here. Excuse me? >> Didn't you already get your papers? >> I think you need to slow your roll right now. >> Slow my roll? >> Yeah. You know you work for me? For what? >> Come on. >> I committed no crime. >> Come on. >> I'm here to look at papers, get papers, see what services you provide. Well, you can tell all day, but I follow the law. >> Come on. >> I follow the law. I'm going to continue getting my paperwork. >> You heard the deputy. You heard the deputy. Come on. >> What did I do wrong? You guys can't This ain't Russia. You can't just make up rules yourself. I did nothing wrong. He's on a power trip. >> It seemed like the ID question was already the most tense moment, but that was only the beginning of the confrontation. When the man refused to back down from an unsupported demand, the officer's next reaction was what truly pushed everything beyond the line. >> What is your name and badge? Buchanan County. Because you're a public servant. Did you forget? It does. Did you forget? You work for me. >> No. >> You work for the people. It's none of your business. Yeah, that's what I thought. Why are you tyrant? What's so funny, little boy? >> I don't >> Why can't you just respect our rights? What's the First Amendment? Do you know? Didn't think so. It's a shame that you guys swore an oath to uphold the Constitution that you don't even know the First Amendment. >> You like the Broncos? >> Mhm. No, I like freedom is what I like. Apparently, you guys don't. >> You're still free, aren't you? >> Uh, not by you. You want to be a little tyrant. Hey, get out of Get out of the public building. >> I have a >> Hey, hey, you went up Yeah, cuz you're not going to and if you do, guess what? We'll have fun in court. >> I like your camera. >> We'll have fun in court. Guess what? Have you violated someone's rights? Of course, you have, but guess what? You ain't going to violate mine without repercussions. >> your camera. A brand >> I like your facial hair. >> Thanks. >> It looks actually kind of good. Okay. The press passes in the Bill of Rights in the Constitution. Huh, you didn't know that, huh? >> No, you're educating me. >> I know. That's bad. If I know your job way more than you, imagine Imagine swearing an oath to the Constitution that you don't know. >> Can you educate me? >> Yes. What's the First Amendment? What five protections are in the First Amendment? >> answering my questions. >> I don't have to. >> I don't >> I don't have to. You work for me. Don't forget that. And maybe when you want to try violating someone's rights, you might want to read the First Amendment and the Fourth Amendment. >> talking about these amendments, but you haven't You're not educating >> Yeah. Are you really that clueless that I have to do your job for you? You swore an oath to the Constitution, yet you can't even recite the First Amendment. That's pathetic and you got stripes. Okay. That's bad. You're poor leader. >> you to leave. >> For what crime? I did nothing wrong. I literally just got a passport and you're over here harassing me. For what? >> I'm not harassing you. >> Yes, you are. Hey, did you already go upstairs? Leave. Leave. You got to leave. >> Did you go up? >> No. I already told you that when you first asked. So, stop harassing me. Go read the Constitution, pal. Yeah, I look like that, too, cuz you're looking like a fool. It's bad. You got all these stripes, all these time and service on your arm, but yet you don't even know the Constitution, the oath [music] you swore to uphold and protect. You work for we the people. Don't you dare forget that. Don't you dare forget that. You do work for me. You do work for me. How dare you dishonor all those that have fought and died for these freedoms? How dare you? >> After the tense confrontation, it seemed like everything was about to be pushed toward a stronger decision. But what happened next began shaking the officer's argument right in front of the camera. >> Yeah, I mean, what he's doing the wrong thing. He needs educated. This is disgusting what he's doing. Oh, do you want to Do you want to know what happened when I came in here? Guess what? I'm being so polite to everybody. I go in here, go to clerks, I ask him, "Hey, what what services do you guys provide here?" And you know what? I got I got a passport information right here cuz this is what I'm looking for. I'm here to go in all these offices. And this guy right here, he should not have stripes for one. That's disgusting how you treat the public. Two, he's yelling at me. Hold on Hold on, little man. Number two, I'm in here to check out the public building, public. Don't forget that. And he's over here harassing me. Hey, you already went up there. No, you got to leave. Get out of here. No, I don't have to leave. De meaning you? Really? What's the First Amendment? What a shame. What a shame. Because you're a public servant. Did you forget? [music] Guess what? You This job right here is a lot. You The public expects you to do your job correctly. That oath that you swore actually means something. Do you know how many men fought and died for these freedoms that we have? And you're over here trying to give me a hard time for what? >> Why are you giving me a hard time? >> Because you work for me. I did nothing wrong to you. What have I done to you? What have I done to you? >> Not giving us your name. >> I don't have to. What's the Fourth Amendment, buddy? Is this your first day on the job? I mean, come on. You got to be better than this. It's I mean, Captain, is this what you Do you accept this behavior? >> What do you need? >> Well, I'm going to go I'm I've just got here. I'm going to each one of these buildings asking what services they provide. I'm getting certain things like I just got a passport info cuz I'm going to fill it out and get a passport. And I'm here checking out the building, then I get harassed by this deputy. It's disgusting, his behavior. >> Go check out the building. >> Exactly. Why couldn't we do that in the first place? So, you have no problem. >> No. >> Exactly. Do you have a problem now? >> The captain says it's fine. >> It Yeah, and he says it's fine because maybe, you know, he appreciates the Constitution. He at least at at minimum he understands it. >> interrupt or go back into any place that you're not >> Exactly, and I don't. Exactly, and I don't. >> That's all I ask. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> When everything seemed tense enough to end with a more forceful order, the arrival of a higher-ranking officer suddenly flipped the situation. And at that moment, the most important question began to surface. Who was really the one who had crossed the line? >> Anything that's open to the public that you want to go in and >> Exactly. >> Go ahead and do it. >> Okay. >> be my recommendation. Don't stand around and argue with us. >> I mean, it well, it shouldn't be them arguing with me, is the thing. >> Either way. >> Okay. >> Just go in and >> Well, there we go. There At least the captain knows, sergeant. You might have to take some lessons up. Go home, maybe just check out the Bill of Rights cuz you don't know it. >> Thank you for your time. >> Yeah, no problem. And thank me for my service, too, cuz your service is not good. Bad boy. Oh, I Yeah, I'm I'm well aware. Yeah, exactly. And I don't. Yeah. Yep. No worries. There you go. Thanks, Captain. Hey, Sergeant. Maybe you'll learn one day. No problem. It's all right. Maybe you will, too, young man. You got to learn that your job is uphold our rights, not to act however you want. Have a good day. Walk of shame, gentlemen. Walk of shame. Yeah, keep walking. That's what I thought. Hello. I just had some questions for you. So, the VA's in here? Okay. Um so, what does this VA do? Do you guys have like a VA hospital around here? Is this just like a Okay, so like do they just help with veterans that have certain questions related to VA itself or Okay. Oh, you do? Okay. Um Do you mind Can you give me some information because I'm actually redoing my compensation? Um if you could give me maybe certain >> [music] >> I Is it you that I would speak with? What was your name? Patty. Okay, nice to meet you. I'm I'm Bo. Okay. Um yeah, do you Do you have like a phone number or something I could reach you at cuz like all all my compensation I'm re- reworking on, so Um I'm I moved over here, yeah. Yeah. In the end, no handcuffs were used. But what the camera captured was enough to keep this story from ending in that hallway. Because when a citizen who knows the law decides to file a complaint, the real pressure begins turning back toward those who tried to force him out. Next, a simple prayer outside City Hall seemed like something that should not cause any trouble, but it quickly brought security stepping in. And from that moment, the line between public order and free speech began to grow dangerously tense. >> I'm sorry, you have to speak up. I can't hear you well. Why not? Why's that? Why's that? Yes, solicitation is not free speech. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm going to go ahead and do it. Yeah. Why would you do that? It's free speech. It's free speech. This is This is city hall property. All right, you don't have to call the cops then. Yeah, I'm not going anywhere. I have a right to be here. This is free speech. You do have a choice. You could just leave me alone. That's the funny thing about it. You don't have to You don't have to snitch, man. You don't have to snitch. You're snitching. Yes, I am. I have every right to be here just as much as anybody else has. I can explain it to them, okay? >> From one vague complaint, the situation suddenly shifted into tense territory when police arrived and focused directly on a controversial demand. But with no clear sign of a crime, the biggest question became, why was ID suddenly the first thing they wanted? >> How you doing, sir? >> I'm all right. How are you? >> we got a complaint that you're asking customers for money or you're bothering customers or something. >> Um I'm not bothering customers. >> Okay, what's going on? >> Uh I'm just uh out here spreading the message. God bless all those folks. >> Um they don't want your presence here right now because I guess some people are feeling uncomfortable with you coming up and making com- they're making complaints to them and that's why they called me. So, are you conducting any business here? >> Like I explained to them, I mean I am conducting business. I'm engaging in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, on traditional public forum and I have just as much right to be here as anybody else. >> Yeah, you do, but you have to be conducting business and this is the city hall, so that's why Just give me a second. I'm going to wait for my partner to get here. >> All right. >> We're going to go forward. >> Yeah, like I said, I'm you know, I'm on I'm I'm engaging in free speech. >> that and I And you you're allowed to do your freedom of speech or whatnot, but obviously this is a time of timely hour where people are conducting business and they're not feeling comfortable with you coming up >> Normal business operating hours. >> Okay, but they're not comfortable with you. >> What's the What's the uncomfortable law? You know, >> We're going to wait We're just going to wait for my partner to get here. >> How you doing, sir? >> You got an ID? >> Why do I need to give you ID? >> to double check something. He's recording just in case. >> What's going on? >> He's recording just >> I just want to ask you a question. Do you have >> My ID? >> Of course I have my ID. >> Can I have the proof? >> No. I'm engaged in constitutionally protected activity on a on a traditional public forum. >> I didn't ask you anything else. I just asked you for >> Okay, well, I'm just letting you know >> No, no. Thank you. >> I mean well, I'm just letting you know I'm engaged in constitutionally protected activity on a traditional public forum. There's freedom of speech. >> Thank you for sharing that. >> What's your name? >> It's Officer Brown. >> What's your badge number? >> 4995 >> Okay, what's your uh are you body cam recording? What's your attitude, man? I asked you a simple question. That's it. Man, I'm just trying to have a conversation with you. Put your hands up to me like that. >> What seemed like a simple request suddenly pushed the entire confrontation into unpredictable territory. And when the man began questioning them back, the very thing police wanted became the one thing that put them in a corner. >> I don't like your attitude. But I want to put you on notice that if you guys remove me from this property, you will be held accountable. Jackass. >> I'm sorry I'm sorry. What did >> Jackass. I don't like your attitude. >> I didn't hear you. >> Jackass. I called you a jackass. I don't like your attitude. You come in here, you're supposed to be investigating. You should be asking me questions. >> I did ask you. >> You asked me for my ID. What >> Yes, sir. >> Is my ID going to tell you whether a crime is a foot? Is my ID You want me >> Hold on a second. It's in my pocket. >> I'll get my ID out for you. Here's my ID right here. You want to ask it questions? Hey, ID, has Jeff committed any crimes or is he suspected of committing any crimes? No. No, Jeff, you're not suspected of committing any crimes. See? Getting my ID does nothing for your investigation. Learn your job, dude. Tired of you cops not know what the what your what your job is. I'll straight to ID. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> 311 in this car. >> When every legal basis began to collapse, authority was used as one final threat. And in that moment, a confrontation that seemed nearly over suddenly became more dangerous than ever. >> I'm VIA 311. >> Officer, can I get your name, please? >> It's Officer Trisma. >> Trisma? Okay, thank you. You have a ID number by the way? >> All right. name is Jeff. I just so you know, I would like to stay and enjoy my freedom of speech rights. But if they do say that I'm trespassing, you give me a trespass warning, I'll leave. Yeah, I'm not committing a crime. Yeah, yeah, I'm refusing to give ID. I'm not committing a crime. I don't. You just trespass me. That's a civil matter. That's a civil matter. No, that's how the court sees it. That's how the law sees it. Okay. You trespass me, I leave. I'm not giving you ID. All right, so am I good to go then? Am I good to go? No answer, I'm just going to walk away. Completely unprofessional. So, they got the word to leave me alone and that they they can't bring themselves to be big enough to say, "Yes, sir, you're good to go." They've better things to do in the city right now. You're damn right there's better things to be doing in the city right now than harassing a person who is engaged in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly on a traditional public forum. >> In the end, no handcuffs came out, but one baseless demand for ID left behind too many questions. And in that moment, police authority was pushed up against a line [music] that a citizen who knew the law was not willing to ignore. Citizens can sue police [music] under Section 1983 when their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights may face compensation payouts, disciplinary action, or even termination. When authority is placed above the law, society must remember that protecting public order should never become an excuse to pressure a citizen who is exercising a lawful right. So, what do you think [music] about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and consider supporting us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]