My name's right here. >> I don't know how. Oh, your name's right here. Hi, officer right here. Take >> pictures. How you doing, brother? >> Officer right here. >> You have uh any identification on you? >> I don't answer questions, sir. >> Uh, okay. Well, we need to find out who you are. >> No, you absolutely don't. I'm on public property taking pictures. >> All right. >> Suspicion is not a crime. >> You can't. >> All over ID, some officers push themselves dangerously close to the line of abuse of power, and they may now be facing legal consequences far more serious than they expected. >> What bank? Here's the deal. I need your ID. >> What bank? >> I need your ID. >> Give me your ID or I will place you under arrest. >> Oh, that's all we need right there. >> I will place you under arrest if you don't give me your ID as well. >> Okay. And are you aware that's a Fourth Amendment? >> I'm aware of the Fourth Amendment. >> A baseless demand for ID, repeated threats of arrest, and a citizen who knew the law. All of it created a tense legal confrontation that opened the door to a much bigger debate over abuse of power. With nothing more than a camera and a few minutes standing still by the road, this man somehow triggered something serious enough for an emergency call to be made. But that was only the beginning of a confrontation no one saw coming up. Sir, >> excuse me. >> Can I help? >> No, I didn't ask for help. >> What's that? >> I didn't ask for help. >> Are you a sheriff or something? >> Uh, security. >> Security. >> Are you guys testing the the sewage to see the rates for the virus? What company do you work for? Good one. >> Yeah. How you doing? Good. Good. Good. >> Good. Trump 2020. >> Have a great day. He said Trump 2020. Well, I was actually going to leave as usual, right? When I make up my decision to leave, I'm telling you guys, I if I don't get a reaction within 10 minutes, I'm I get the hell out of there. What seemed like a brief exchange that would be over in minutes suddenly took a different turn. And within seconds, suspicion began to build. Even though no one had pointed to any actual wrongdoing, >> I knew he wasn't a sheriff. I was just seeing what he was going to say. on the way. Sir, >> what's that? >> The cops? >> I want to leave the sheriff. >> No, I don't care. I'm not doing anything illegal. >> Why would I leave? >> If you think the sheriffs are going to scare me away, that's You're funny. I'm not doing anything illegal. Why would you call them? Watch. They're going to pull off. I'll still be here. All right, guys. Sheriff's coming. Put the body cam on. Sorry guys, I'm holding my camera with one hand and I'm trying to hear the scanner in case the cops come instead of the sheriff. Never never walked off the public sidewalk or out the crosswalk. The call finally brought law enforcement to the scene, but not every officer approached the situation the same way. And soon, one officer's attitude and a controversial demand for ID quickly pushed the encounter into a tense confrontation. California, please. Man, I spend I use so much memory down here, man. There we go. I lost everything. >> Hey, sir. >> Hi. >> Corporal McGill County Sheriff's Office. How are you today? >> Great. What was the last name? >> Corporal McGill County Sheriff's Office. >> Do you have a badge number? >> It is 4015. >> Awesome. Thank you. >> Yep. Just curious, do you need anything or is there any problems? No, he came over and asked me. I asked him a question and then he turned around and called you guys. >> Okay. >> So, >> are you are you on your way out then or? >> Uh, I'm going to be here as long as I need to be. Can I get your name and badge, please? >> Sure. >> Name and badge, then. >> My name's right here. >> I don't know how Oh, your name's right here. Hi, officer right here. >> Pictures. How you doing, brother? >> Officer right here. >> You have uh any identification on you? Uh, >> I don't answer questions, sir. >> Uh, okay. Well, we need to find out who you are. >> No, you absolutely don't. I'm in public property taking pictures, >> right? So, you have no right to know who I am. Suspicion is not a crime. >> Suspicion is not a crime. >> You're out in front of >> Suspicion is not a crime, sir. >> Taking pictures. >> Hey, you go talk to the two stripes over there. He didn't have a problem with it. So, >> he's not done with you. >> All right. You should watch your mouth. Okay, >> sir. I don't know who you are. >> You don't need to know. >> Tension reached its peak when a firm statement was made, but questions about the legal basis behind it were never clearly answered. And just seconds later, before the scene could even settle, a contradiction between the officers began to turn the entire incident around. >> Sir, why am I being detained? >> Keep walking away. >> I'm going to the other officer. Sir, >> you don't need to walk towards him. Sir, why? Why am I being detained? >> You're not being detained. >> Boom. Ha. >> Go now. >> There you go. We're detained. >> Do I not know my laws or what? Yeah, keep it moving. >> You're dismissed. You're dismissed. How do you say your name, Mr. Right here? Can you have him uh pronounce his name for me because I don't know how to pronounce that. >> Out here just videaping all that. >> Could you uh >> Sir, could you have him uh pronounce his name for me cuz I don't know how to pronounce it. Sir, could you please have him? >> Good to go. >> Could you have him pronounce that for me? >> Sir, it it is what it is. >> Sir, you told me his name is right here. And that's not how you spell right here. >> However you would say his name. >> I [ __ ] >> You uh have anything else you need from us? >> Absolutely not. >> I need to point out these tyrants. That's exactly what I need to do. >> Have a good day, sir. >> Yeah. >> Him. I was very cordial with and polite. You You're a prick. >> Yeah. Teach him the first amendment, sir. >> Yeah. And it's perfectly legal. And you can't illegally detain me for that, sir. >> Learn. You learn your lesson today. Huh? >> Huh? Officer, right here. >> How you doing? >> Did you learn your lesson? >> I'm me, too. >> Free education for you, sir. I do know the law better than you, idiot. >> Officer right here. What you got in here? You think this is illegal, too? >> Do whatever you want. >> Yeah, exactly. Get the number on my car. Okay, >> officer. Right here. >> Got my car number, right? >> I don't answer questions, sir. Oh, >> okay. >> In the end, there were no charges, no citation, and no arrest. But the questions about how some officers exercise their authority still remain. Next, it all started with a mysterious call, and suddenly a tense confrontation broke out right on a public sidewalk. But when simple questions were asked, the very people holding authority began to stumble over their own answers. >> How y'all doing? >> What's up? >> You say what? >> Come talk to you? >> Yes, sir. >> We're just walking. >> That's fine. I just got a call. >> Oh, okay. >> Hey, let's keep walking, bro. >> That's 29 show me scene at Car Quest with those two individuals. >> Hey, let's let's keep walking. >> No issue. >> You're not walking anywhere, >> huh? >> So, we're detained. >> Yes, you are detained. What's wrong? >> Because I got a call that the two of you were walking around. >> I can barely hear you. >> I was got a call that the two of you were walking around and y'all were recording license plates >> from public >> over at the bank. >> From public. >> Okay, that's fine. What are y'all doing? >> Just recording from public. >> Okay. >> But why are we detaining? >> But y'all were also in cold water inside the bank. There was >> inside the bank. You guys information is a little >> You know that the sheriff pulled it up. >> You know we wasn't inside no bank. We never was on the bank. >> So, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. >> What's going on, Dispatch? Could you roll me another minute? >> Let me ask you this, Officer. Uh, Larry, >> go ahead. >> What rights do we have in this situation here that you're here to that you're here to defend? >> I'm just making sure that y'all aren't doing anything. >> That's not how you That's not how you approach me, though. >> Yeah, man. >> Stopping me from my movement on a public sidewalk for what? >> What gives you the right to stop me? >> All right. So obviously you're going to be difficult. So like I said, >> you said you we said we go ahead. >> Like I said, >> go ahead. >> There's an active investigation going on right now because there were some people concerned about what y'all are doing. >> So I am here to talk to the two of you to see what's going on so I can let those people know, oh, they're not up to anything illegal. They're not doing anything wrong. >> You should tell them. >> So are you investigating a misdemeanor or a felony? >> What are you investigating? You just said you're investigating. Are you investigating a misdemeanor? Well, it depends on what y'all been doing in Min. >> But you said we're detained. So you you got to be able to articulate a crime. You just said we're detained. >> The more they were questioned, the more the officer's initial confidence seemed to shake. Meanwhile, the sergeant suddenly took a harder stance, repeatedly demanding identification with a level of tension that quickly escalated the confrontation. >> You're ignorant. >> Don't talk to officer like I don't mind talking to y'all. I'll treat y'all. >> You want me to cuss at him or how do you how do you want me to talk to him? >> I want you to not call him an idiot. >> Okay. So, you want me to call him like a uh either a worse word than that or >> No. How about just treat him with respect and I'll treat you with respect. >> When you stop somebody on the sidewalk from vlogging, >> why would I talk to him with respect? >> Because he deserves it. >> Oh, he deserves it. So, me just meeting him for the first time ever and he tells me stop and don't go anywhere. He deserves it. >> Yes, he has that right, sir. Baby, >> when we get a phone call about people that are possibly walking in banks, videoing, videoing license plates in a parking, >> what bank have you been at? >> We have then we have >> under law the right to stop you and question you as part of our investigation. >> Maybe you should get your Maybe you should maybe you should get your information correct first. It is correct. >> So, we've been inside of a bank. No, I said we got a report since you've been inside. >> And that report was falsely claimed. >> I don't know that I bank. >> Until you talk to me, I know it's falsely claimed. What bank? >> Tell you, sir. >> What bank? >> Here's the deal. What bank? Here's the deal. I need your ID. >> What bank? >> I need your ID. >> Can you answer that? What bank? >> I need your ID >> for what? >> Sir, I'm now going to tell you, >> give me your ID or I will place you under arrest. >> Oh, that's all we need right there. Everything seemed to be going exactly the way the sergeant wanted. But just minutes later, inconsistent explanations shifted the entire debate, and the sergeant's own understanding of the law suddenly became the focus of new questions. >> I will place you under arrest if you don't give me your ID as well. >> Okay. And are you aware that's a fourth amendment? >> I'm aware of the fourth amendment. >> That he is. >> No, you do not. >> What's the fourth amendment, officer? >> Give me your Give me the GM. >> For me, for me, please give God to >> give us Hey, I'm going to ask He said it together. He I thought he was talking about to you though. >> No, I said both of us. >> Give me Give me your ID or I will arrest you. >> Okay. >> Either way. >> Okay. >> So, what is that ID going to do for you? >> I I didn't hear. I thought he was talking to me. >> Well, what is that ID going to do for you? >> It's going to let me figure out who you are. >> It's going to let you know if I've been inside of a bank or not. >> It's going to identify you as far as >> You're the lieutenant. >> Yes. >> You're one of the dumbest lieutenants I've ever met. >> I appreciate that. >> That's your first amendment right to feel that way. And it's it's not your first amendment right to be talking in public with that [ __ ] in your mouth. >> I'm I'm I'm shocked. Uh I'm I'm really just shocked, sir. Especially with you. I'm It's okay with him, but you just supposed to be a little bit more knowledgeable. So it's not okay with him. I have the bad in the state of Mississippi during investigation. I have a right to ask for your ID. >> Are you investigating a misdemeanor or a felony? >> It don't matter what I'm investigating. As long as I'm investigating a crime, >> you're investigating a bird pooping on the sidewalk. You got >> and a felony are both a crime. So you don't know what you're talking about. As long as I'm investigating >> reasonable, articable suspicion of a crime. >> And I got that. I can articulate my suspic articulate. >> We had a call to two individuals that match the description of the clothes you're wearing about you being in a bank and possibly being out in a gave you that call. I don't have to tell you that. >> So that's a So you don't believe in false police reports? >> I do believe in false police boards, but how let's go. >> How do I know it's false until I talk to y'all? >> That's You should have went to him first. If you don't stop me on the public sidewalk, >> cuz he's a tyrant. He's a tyrant. He's a tyrant, bro. He's a tyrant. >> When every suspicion failed to lead to any actual violation, what remained was not evidence, but growing questions about everything that had happened before. >> I swore a note to the United States Constitution >> and I got a uniform and uh I did. I'm not going to tell you guys. >> Okay. >> Just know I swore a note to the Oh, no. I will know everything about you. >> Yes. Okay. >> It's just your public. >> What would you like to know? >> Oh, I I I'll get it. >> All the things you don't you don't like to tell the public. >> Are you going to come by and eat dinner with me? >> [ __ ] You offering me? >> Yeah, man. Anybody's welcome to eat. >> Who cooks? You or your wife? >> You do. [ __ ] I mean, depends what you make. >> Then we can sit down and have a reasonable conversation. >> We do plain talk. We don't do that. >> We don't use team codes. >> So, what what would you have done if I would have kept walking on the sidewalk? Are we going to >> What would you have done if I would have kept walking on the sidewalk and I didn't stop talking? >> An act of investigation if you were still walking on the sidewalk and you >> Yeah, that's what I'm telling them. Uh that's what I'm telling. We going to just Can we just tight? >> You guys You guys conducting the first amendment. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. The investigation is not over yet. It is not over. We need to know >> what happened. Who said what? But you stopped me from my everyday rights I have as a citizen of this United States of America. >> Speak to y'all for two seconds. >> Yeah, you're good. You good? I I like You're a detective. You You're not at that level yet. >> Go ahead. >> Yeah, if you don't mind. Go ahead. >> All right. So, >> the Can you just violate our fourth amendment constitutional right though, sir? >> Go ahead. >> Give me just a second. >> Go ahead, sir. >> All right. Y'all are allowed to video. Do whatever you want. Thank you, sir. Out in public. We had a call that someone was recording in a private establishment. just you guys. >> That's why we are here or the >> in >> That's why we have to do our due diligence. Okay. >> Why wouldn't you go there first? >> And that's just alleged that say so. He didn't mean he turned us under >> because there are three Listen, there are three officers here, right? Three officers are here. Not one of you guys have gone down there and asked if we were inside the establishment. >> We have to go off of what dispatch. >> That's how people get shot and killed, bro. That's how people >> with questions still left unanswered. Being allowed to leave only ended the confrontation at the scene because behind the scenes, new developments were quietly unfolding and they could make the sergeant pay the price for his own decision. >> Nothing complaints. >> Yes. Yes. >> First thing you walk in, you see this [ __ ] >> Uh I just got a police call about two guys recording that uh arrived on the scene. There's actually three. And then I will need a complaint form. >> I appreciate it. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's good that they got Hey guys, look at it. They got the uh complaints right on the wall here. And we still need the other information. >> I need to get a pin, please. >> I'm sure he would. And would I be able to get like the officer's name that showed it was three of them. This is the public records request. >> Yeah. Would you ask for a complaint form? >> Yeah, I need a complaint form. >> That's a public record. Public record. Is it in? >> Oh, here it is. >> You right. >> That's back on top. >> Yeah. >> Yes, ma'am. Thank you. >> So, we need this, not this. Well, I'm taking both, actually. >> All right, guys. So, they do have the complaint form and public records request. So, >> but we need the names of the officers. >> We need the uh call for service and all that. So >> stay tuned >> and we're going to try to get that information for you guys. So this >> look at this guys. Hold on hands. >> Wait. Hold on. >> No crime. No evidence behind the original suspicions. But the incident still [music] leaves serious questions about the limits of power and the responsibility of those entrusted to enforce the law. Citizens can [music] sue police under section 1 1983 when their rights are violated. Officers who violate [music] those rights may face compensation payouts, disciplinary action, or even termination. No one stands above the law and only when power comes with accountability can citizens rights [music] truly be protected in a fair and civilized society. So, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and consider supporting us with a donation. Thank you so much. [music]