He's just giving me grief, man. >> Grief? >> Yeah. >> That's all. All I'm doing But you're restricting my movement. >> No, I'm not. >> Yes, you are. >> No. >> Please go, sir. >> No, go when I'm ready. >> No, sir. Either you go now or will I have to? No. No. He's just out. >> He says she says she could help me. So, I'm going to I'm going to ask for uniform. >> He carried only a camera, walked into a police [music] station in broad daylight, and ended up facing the entire uniform system. >> I want to show you what I was doing. You want you don't [music] want me to show you? >> So, >> no weapons, no threats. Yet, within minutes, the entire station turned into a tense battlefield. [music] >> Thank you. All right. Can you just leave me alone? Stop. You're just a creep. You're approaching me in a weird manner. You want me to leave you alone? >> Yeah, just leave me alone, man. >> You're free to walk away. >> Sorry. >> A small camera was all it took to unsettle the entire Suriri police station. And soon, everything spiraled out of control. What police officer seems to do, they will park their marked car and then inside they will leave let's say documents, >> right? >> And uh it might have public like private information on it that >> no signs, no barriers. Yet the police reacted as if he had just breached a state secret. >> Well, I don't believe you. >> I don't believe you. Sorry. >> Okay. Well, then go and ask in the front counter by all means. >> Who? >> The person in the front counter. >> Hang on. I need to show the number first of all. >> 4170. >> Thank you. All right. Can you just leave me alone and stop? You're just a creep. You're approaching me in a weird manner. >> If you want me to leave you alone. >> Yeah, just leave me alone, man. >> You're free to walk away. >> Sorry. >> You're free to walk away. >> Yeah, I'm afraid to roam around as well. >> I'm also free to roam around. Well, you should have approached me nicely and asked me, can I help you? Or anything like that. But you didn't. No, you didn't. >> We asked you why you were here. We asked you what you're up to. >> No, you just keep saying you shouldn't be here. >> Here. We can help. Huh? >> If you tell us why we're here, maybe we can help. >> Well, I'm just filming. >> Why? >> What do you mean why? >> Why? >> Oh, >> it's a very odd thing for people to do. Just to film for no reason. >> The police station. >> For what reason? >> Reason why? >> Cuz it's a police station. >> Why does that explain anything? Why are you recording? >> I am filming the police station. just just checking the area around, looking at all the vans, all the vehicles and all that. Then I'm gone. That's it. I go to reception eventually >> and I'm gone. What What's your issue, man? >> I want to know why you're doing that. >> But why do I need to explain to you? >> Because >> you didn't even show your ID. >> You're acting very strangely. >> I didn't act strangely. I came in here. Yeah. I didn't >> not understand. It's a bit strange for someone to walk into a police station with a camera. >> Well, you you need to get used to it. It's not my fault. To be strange. you were the way you were approaching me from behind like that. >> When the officers blocked his path and demanded ID without reason, the confrontation shifted from words to a stare wound tight as a wire. You >> got a beard. You look a lot different, man. Are you sure that's you? >> Is it a YouTube? >> I'm sorry. That looks fake or >> it looks fake. >> Okay. Well, I'm in a police station. >> Is he a police officer? >> 100%. Yeah. Okay. I believe you. >> So, is it a YouTube thing you're doing or >> I'm sorry. You're so rude. I don't have to explain anything to you. >> Talk to my colleague. Why don't you talk to your colleague? >> Because you want to talk to me. But clearly you want something. You're here for a reason. >> I don't want something. I just came to film. I just told you that before. I've told you that many times. I just want to film and I just want to continue filming. So if you please >> I've got no issue with you whatsoever. >> I don't really care if you have an issue or you don't to be honest. Carry on. >> All this is public. I don't mind if that's completely fine. >> Dude, have you ever considered modeling? >> Modeling. >> Here you go. >> I appreciate that. But now >> what do you use? Did you use L'Oreal? >> I might have to start using. >> You should do got nice hair. >> Thank you. >> I like him. [laughter] >> Anyway, can I just continue doing what I'm doing? >> Yeah, as long as you walk that way >> without you harassing me. >> As long as you walk that way, it's fine. >> Which way? >> The other way. Away from me. >> Away from you? >> Yes. >> So, can I walk that way? >> No. >> Why not? >> Because we're here. >> Cuz you don't want to come near me. >> So, why are you restricting my movement? >> Because this isn't a public area. I've said that to you. I know you don't agree, but it isn't a public area. There are police cars here. There are no public cars here. >> I don't believe you. >> That's fine. >> I just don't believe you. >> Okay, >> that that's the problem. I don't believe you. >> Okay. >> I I can see there is police lines. Yes. >> Please go and ask >> from please leave to your trespassing. Could they be trying to frame an innocent man? >> No. >> So, why why you standing off on my way? Can you get out of the way to come through here? >> Can you please get out of my way? >> No. >> So, if I go this way, what are you going to do? I'm going to stand in front of you. >> So, you actually want to go that far now? >> Go what? How far? >> Why? You You want to make it physical? Cuz I'm trying to go through. >> No, I don't want to make it physical. >> Well, can you I just want >> I just want you to go that way. >> Dude, what is your issue, man? >> There is no reason for you to come into this area of the police station. >> I want to show you what I was doing. >> You You don't want me to show you? >> So So if I force myself, you you can become physical now. >> You force yourself in, then you'll assault me. >> How will I assault you? because you'll have to force your way past me. >> But you're restricting my movement. >> No, I'm not. >> Yes, you are. >> To leave. >> I'm not restricting you at all. You're free to go. Go. >> Go where? >> Away. Anywhere you want. Go into the front counter. Ask them if I'm right that you're not supposed to come through here. >> What is your issue, man? Seriously, you just don't want to leave me alone. >> You're acting in a strange way. >> I am not acting strange, man. I even want to show you what I'm doing. I want to show you what I'm doing. I I don't want you to go through here. >> Why not? >> S. >> How come you're letting them through? >> Cuz they want >> I work here as well. >> You don't? >> I do. >> Show me your ID. >> Hello, sir. >> Hi, sir. >> How you doing? >> Yeah. What's your name? >> People call me AB, sir. >> AB? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> He's just giving me grief, man. >> Grief? >> Yeah. >> Asking to All just filming. He's just giving me grief. >> You're trespassing. >> I'm not trespassing. Why am I trespassing? It's not a public place here. It's not a public place. >> How How is it a public place? Look, it's all it's all publicly accessible, sir. >> A senior officer arrived, but the truth couldn't be hidden. The [clears throat] camera had already exposed how power reacts when placed under the light. >> Hello, sir. >> Hi. Understand you want to speak to me? >> Yes. >> I'm the local superintendent. How can I help you? >> Uh, no. I just came. >> Okay. >> You called him in. I just came. Uh, there's nothing more than me just going around. >> Okay. >> Filming and then I'd be out of here. Uh, I'll walk into reception, just look around, and then I'll be gone. Okay. >> Uh, I've been challenged by so many people. I don't know why. I've explained to them I'm here to film so many times. >> I am I'm not nothing hostile, nothing, you know, I'm showing my face as you can see. I know they're filming me and all that. I've explained it over and over and over that I'm here to film. >> Okay. And is there anything we can help you with? Is there a reason that you want to film at our building? >> Uh, nothing. Usually I might go around and look at all the vehicles like the the marked vehicles. That's >> fine. >> Uh just look around them. I see if they're all in order, if they clean, things like that. Say, for example, if I see a car that's dirty, I'll just say on my on my if I see, >> have you found any that are dirty? >> They didn't allow me. They didn't let me look. >> You know, usually also one more thing. Sometimes what police officer seems to do, they will park the marked car and then inside they will leave let's say documents, >> right? and uh it it might have public like private information on it that I take it very seriously. So the GDPR kind of thing. So usually I film it to prove a point and then if I ever upload it, >> I'll blur it out because obviously I don't want any information going out there. So things like that. That's it. That's all I'm here for. They clearly don't like cameras. They overreacting. >> I'm here talking to you. Have I implied that I don't like cameras? >> No. No. I'm I'm not so far. I haven't judged you at all. But these guys don't like cameras. >> They're all suspicious. Do you think I'm doing something wrong? >> In the UK, police officers who abuse their power or make unlawful arrests, can be investigated by the IOP, face internal disciplinary action, criminal prosecution with sentences of up to 10 years in prison, and be ordered to pay civil compensation for violating citizens rights under the Human Rights Act 1998. There was no arrest, but the video revealed unlawful obstruction, intimidation, and unprofessional conduct by several officers. Up next, a citizen walked into Eden House, but within minutes it turned into a battlefield between power and justice. >> Sir, you can't come inside, sir. Please, please go outside. It's a private area. >> Is it? >> No. Yes. Yes. >> It's a reception, I thought. >> No, no, no. This is reporting center, sir. >> All right. >> Sir, please. >> Don't touch Don't touch me. >> Yeah. Don't touch me. >> You are in a private sir. No, >> it's a reception, my friend. This says reception. >> Reception? It doesn't matter. It's not your reception. Not for you, sir. >> It's a public place. >> No, it's not public place. >> This is something to the public, is it not? >> Please go, sir. >> No, go when I'm ready. >> No, sir. Either you go now or you'll have to make arrangements to call the police. >> Call the police for what, my friend? >> You are in a private place, sir. >> I'm not a private place. It's a reception. It says outside. >> This is a reporting center, sir. Not for you. >> But it's a reception. Yes, sir. >> So, I'm just trying to look at all this information. Can tell me how can I help you? >> So, you can let me just record all the public information. And you've got all that information and just have a look around your reception. Then I'll be on my way. >> So this is this is this is this up to here. I have no problem coming and checking >> up to there. >> Oh no. I'm going to come in here as well. >> No, you're not. >> Why does it smell like cannabis in here? >> Cannabis stinks of cannabis in here. Is it just me? >> No, it's you, sir. It's you. >> You sure? I don't touch your stuff, mate. I don't drink alcohol. >> Don't worry about me, sir. Sir, >> you can What's the star for? >> Sir, it's nothing to do with you, sir. >> I'm just asking. No, no, he's just >> He says she says you could help me. So, I'm going to I'm going to ask what it's called. Uniform, sir. >> Do you know why I'm here? >> I don't know. >> I'll tell you why I'm here. So, so a colleague of mine was here a few days ago and was assaulted off by some of your security guards. So, that's why I'm here cuz um what happened to him is did you make a complaint? >> Oh, you need to speak to him. So, I'm just here to stand in solidarity with him because this is publicly funded this place. >> He asked, [music] "Who pays for this place?" The guard answered with shouting and threats. A confrontation erupted between the man with the camera and the one who claimed to own the building. >> So, it's probably very similar to some of the other locations I do, guys. The um private areas such as through there and then through the other sides are not I won't be permitted access to under section 33, the criminal justice act. But this is a public reception which a different different ball game. It was open the 18th of September, a week after 9/11. Jesus. The right honorable Lord Rooker Home Office and Minister for State of State back the new labor days. Ladies and gentlemen, what they got over here? Retain an item from you. This can be for you visit permanently. Classified as an offensive weapon. Surely people don't even attempt to bring things such as offensive weapons into a place like this. I think massive metal detector. That would be a foolish foolish thing to do. If you are observed using your mobile phone, you will be asked to leave the reporting center. I wonder why that is. Why you not allowed to use your phone? For coming with information here, ladies and gentlemen. So, I say guys, Claude Claude was here um tail end of last week, I think it was. He put his video up. So, I'm not entirely too sure when the visit was. And [music] some of the security guards got a bit handsy. And um anybody that's familiar with my channel know how how I would react to someone want to get a bit physical with me. Not going to happen. >> He asked to file a formal complaint, but they ignored him. When a citizen's rights are blocked right at the reception desk, who's really breaking the law? >> Hello. How are you? >> Hey, Chief. How you doing? >> No worries. My name is PC Police Station. >> Nice to meet you. How you It's not too bad. Um, can I confirm, I've just spoken to the manager here. Um, have you got a reason to report here today? >> Yes. >> What is the reason to report? >> So, essentially it's a publicly funed building. I just come in the reception area. I told him that I wasn't going any private areas. I just wanted to see what literature they had on the walls and whatnot. The guy came out and started shouting at me really loudly in my face. I told him a couple of times to to lower his voice and uh I've got this policy that when the police have called, I have to wait for you guys to turn up just because I don't want you wasting your time looking for me or anything like that and wasting any more of your time. >> Okay. Yeah. And that's pretty much it. And the guy, he's just been a bit sort of aggressive and stuff like that. And I've not obstructed anyone. I've not raised my voice, not being aggressive. I've scooted to the side deliberately to allow people to come and go from the building. I did ask to use the toilet because I am diabetic and they've declined to let me use that because I don't consent to the search procedures, but I've not tried to gain access to the private areas. I've stayed within the reception area. Um, so yeah, pretty much that you want today. >> Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, as I say, I sort of leave off my own free will. Um, but when they sort of said I will phone the police, I sort of guessed they might called you. So, um, I sort of hang about at that point just to make sure. >> What is the blog that you filmed there? >> I don't think it's relevant to be honest. But what I what I will tell you is that there was someone here um last week. >> Blog for blog. >> Uh, pardon. >> Is it blog for blog? >> No, >> no. There was someone here last week, but he was out in the car park and was manhandled by a couple of security guards. The police arrived, but instead of deescalating, one officer lost his temper, activated his body cam incorrectly, and called the citizen a little prick. >> Procedure. Otherwise, it's inadmissible in court. >> Don't listen to anything you say. I'm going to do some public work. >> Yeah, you do that. Jes. >> Yeah. See you later, Muppet. >> See you. >> I hope you're going to post that that you actually muppet. >> I will post it because you're a muppet. Yeah, you're a muppet. You're >> you're an annoying muppet. So wind your neck in. Be quiet. You're dismissed. Go away. Jog on. See you. >> I'll talk to you anyway. I want public servant. What are you going to do about it? >> I don't talk to >> What are you going to do about it? You're turning your camera off now? >> My camera's on. >> Is it? Yeah. You didn't tell me anyway. So >> it's inadmissible. >> Why you're speaking to me? It's quite disrespectful. >> Is it disrespectful? It's not a crime officer. So if you don't like it, get in your car and disappear. >> I'll sit here. >> Yeah, I will tell you to disappear. Freedom of speech. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? >> Happy to sit all I want. >> Sure. All right. You do that. waste even more taxpayers money. >> Wasting taxpayers money coming to deal with people like you. >> Did I call you? Did I call you? You shouldn't answer the call. I'm not doing anything illegal. You're here to report crime. >> You're being annoying. >> I know a bit annoying. It's not a crime. So >> annoying like obstructing their >> I'm not obstructing us to to the side. Who who stopped people coming in and out? The security did. >> Yeah. Cheerio. Watch that bike. You don't cause an accident. >> Watch you who who you calling a clown. Congratulations. You've just landed yourself in trouble, mate. Big trouble. >> Yeah, you are a clown as well. You muppet. Not professional. One little one little standard. >> You won't be on camera, mate. Don't worry. >> This is a public service, ladies and gentlemen. They're getting paid taxpayers money to call members of the public clowns and annoying and everything else cuz he just doesn't like being told he's not very good at his job. >> That moment was captured. every word, every [music] second, one video, one truth, and a devastating blow to the reputation of London's Metropolitan Police. The man was stopped by the police as he was returning home, but seconds later, the conversation turned into a scene that left everyone breathless. >> Hi, I live here, so I don't have no weapons. >> Okay. Well, you can see in the car. >> All right. You know what? Come over here. Fine. >> Yeah. Come over here. >> I'm going to speak slow. Interlace your fingers. >> Hey, sir. No, put your hands behind your back. You're going to jail right now. >> I'm putting my hands behind my back. >> Having just undergone surgery, he repeatedly begged for mercy. But instead of listening, the police issued threats that outraged the entire community. >> Hi. I live here, so I don't have no weapons. >> Okay. Well, you can see the car. >> All right. You know what? Come over here. Fine. Come over here. >> Very well. No weapon. >> Okay. Is it speak slow? Interlace your fingers. >> Hey, sir. Stop. >> Stop. I will grab Actually, my paperwork for my surgery yesterday. >> You just had surgery yesterday. Be careful. >> Just relax your hands. >> You're not listening. >> I just had surgery. >> That's not doing a lot of talking. Put your hands behind your back. If you resist, you will get hurt. >> If you hurt me, I will sue you. I just had surgery yesterday. You hurt me, I will sue you. >> Hey, Johnny. Johnny. >> Yes, sir. >> Can you listen to us? >> This guy threatened me. I will get hurt. >> Come over here, Johnny. Johnny, come over here. Don't Don't force me. >> I just have surgery, sir. Spider, >> I'm not let you put your hands behind your back. Put your hand behind your back. >> Put your hands behind your back and go to jail right now. >> Put my hands behind my back. >> What is going on with you? I told the guy I just had surgery. I just had surgery. Please. >> Where'd you have surgery? >> Here. I had cancer. >> What is your issue? >> Have a seat. >> I just had cancer. >> What is your issue? >> In the midst of postprerative pain, he simply tried to show his medical papers. Yet that sparked a brutal crackdown and perhaps a multi-million dollar lawsuit. >> Why did we have to get to this point? >> You saw us back there pulling you over. You kept driving into your driveway. >> Yes, sir. >> Why? >> My my car. >> Yeah. >> Have December tags on him. Actually, it's June. So that's why I pulled in the driveway. Sir, >> this officer threatened me that he was going >> because you're not listening. I was explaining to him I just had surgery. >> That's fine. You're still not listening. >> I'm listening >> now. You are his >> his his aggressiveness. That's why I offer. So I would just >> You still weren't listening to me. You weren't listening to my partner here. >> There was three people talking to me at the same time. >> No, there was not. We each individually tried to talk some sense into you. >> And then my when my paper flew down >> and I caught it. >> Yes. Okay. You were the one. Okay. >> So why does it have to get to this point? Why can't you just listen to what we have to tell you? >> But you kept driving into your driveway. >> Yes, sir. I did. Why? What are you supposed to do? That's not my question. >> What you supposed to do? >> What are you supposed to do when you get pulled over? >> Supposed to pull over. >> Okay. What did you do? >> Show you guys every all the paperwork. I just had a 4-hour surgery and I'm I'm just messed up. >> So, I'm surprised you're acting the way you are. >> Just want to get home, get that paperwork so I can get it to my job and that was it, officer. And I got >> I'm surprised you got to the point where you did if that's really the case. >> It But the threat officer wasn't necessary. to the officer right here. By law, he said he was going to hurt me so well. >> Yes, by law. >> I told him I thought Johnny. >> One officer bluntly declared, "You're lucky you weren't pepper-sprayed or knocked to the ground." But those words later became evidence in court. >> By law, we have to tell you that we will use force on you if you're not cooperating. >> Did you know that? >> Well, I know one thing. >> Did you know that? Yes or no? >> You did. But you're still questioning why we did that because it's a threat apparently. But it was just a threat. I I was going to everything. Yes, I was. >> By law, we have to tell you we're going to use force on you. >> Okay. >> Okay, officer. >> I want to let you know you're lucky you didn't get tased. I want to let you know you're lucky you didn't get pepper- sprrayed or thrown to the ground. Think about that next time. >> I will. I thought about it. I I thought about it. >> You might be going to jail now. The question was simple. Why didn't he stop immediately when the police siren blew? But the answer led to a chain of actions that cost the entire police department. Heat. Heat. I don't know. [laughter] Heat. Heat. After the incident, the man sued the city and won the case, receiving financial compensation for wrongful arrest, unnecessary force, and violation [music] of civil rights. The video is a clear demonstration of how abuse of power [music] can lead to serious legal consequences for law enforcement. The post office manager came out, demanded [music] the filming stop, and threatened to call the police. But the citizens hit back with something he was completely unprepared for. >> Hello. >> Hi. How are you? >> Master not here. >> Is there a supervisor? >> Yes, there is. >> Okay. >> You want me to wait over by the door there? >> Just stay right here. Let me go get them. >> Okay. Sure. Thank you. Appreciate your help. >> All of us. >> Oh, is this your the postmaster? >> I'm the manager. >> Manager? You're the guy we're looking for. I'm sure you're not shaking hands these days, right? No, but I'll tell you the first thing [clears throat] is that there's no photography allowed in this building. >> Sure, there is. And what I'm more worried about is not >> discussing it. >> What you're not discussing the serious fire marshall uh fire regulation violations that you have going on here. You don't want to hear about any of that. >> I didn't say that. I said there's no photography in this building. >> Okay. Well, I'm telling you there is. You're wrong. Are you familiar with your poster 7? >> We can have the police out the police. >> I'm not. Listen, >> listen. I'm here to discuss a very serious life-threatening situation that you have going on here at this post office. I'm not [clears throat] here to talk about a camera. So, can we walk down here and I'll show you what I'm talking about? >> I'm not your personal employee. So, you can just tell me what the issue is and I can look at it. >> You only have one means of egress from this building for the customers. >> Okay. >> That's a national fire code violation. >> Okay. >> That needs to be corrected right now immediately. >> Okay. So, you are >> Well, you'll be advised of who I am once I see how you're going to handle the situation. So, under advised, I need you to stop filming now. There's no photography allowed in this building. >> You're absolutely incorrect. >> Okay. So, I'm going to call the police and let them sort it out. >> Okay. And then I'm going to have the fire marshall come down here and your fine fire inspection. So, that's fine. Let's do that. >> Very. You had your fire inspection before you locked the door in the back. >> When the police arrived, the situation escalated. Harsh words, a confrontational stance, and with a single wrong decision, everything could turn into forced detainment. >> Are you guys going to take off or you going to hang out here? Well, are you going to inuh inform him on what the law is >> in a particular uh what? >> First of all, we are allowed to take video on this property, and I'll tell you why if you're not going to interrupt me. There's something called poster 7, which is hanging in the lobby, which is the rules and regulations governing conduct on postal property, which specific specifically gives us the right to do what we're doing. Okay. There's a section a paragraph on photography. Wait, let me let me That's a federal No. Well, if you don't care, I'm not going to talk to you. Have a nice day. Well, then I don't want to I don't want to hear word out of your mouth with that. That's a federal >> Well, then tell them to call federal police. Well, then you're not you're not federal police here, though. That's trespassing. >> No, it's not. >> So, I can't have you go back inside if they're telling you to >> No, it's not. Call Call FPS. You're wrong. >> And I don't want to sue you. >> So, you're wrong. I'm trying to I'm trying to educate you. >> I'm not going to ask why we're doing this. You're just here causing a scene. I >> No, I'm not. No, no, no, no, no. Listen to me. All right. Stop speaking and listen to what I'm telling you. Okay. There is a Department of Homeland Security memo dated 2018 which gives me express permission to do what I'm doing. Bring it up on your phone. Google it. >> How about you bring it up on your phone? >> 2018 memo on photography. I know what it is. >> All right. >> So, if you if you trespass me from this property, you're violating my rights and you're going to have a very serious lawsuit. So, I would check with your supervisor, a sergeant, a chief, district attorney's office, whoever you want to talk to, and they're going to tell you that I have the right to be here. I assure you. Don't make the mistake. Officer Yes. He's just misinformed. Yes. Okay. So, >> so check with your supervisors and if your supervisor wants me to leave, I'll leave and then I'll file the lawsuit. I don't want I don't want I don't want to name you personally. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Get let's get a supervisor. Let's do that. Yeah. >> The citizens cited constitutional law the officers never expected to hear. And in that moment, the atmosphere flipped as their authority was challenged right on the spot. >> Post office. >> So, you're here. You wanted to talk to their supervisor cuz you you're here about the fire code. That's what you're concerned. >> That's what I walked into the building for. You going to listen to my answer or you just going to keep going? >> Well, I'm just trying to reiterate what that I'm listening to. >> That's what I walked into the building for to speak to the postmaster. Yes. >> Absolutely correct. Again, which is documented on two cameras. Seven cameras because they have cameras inside there, too. >> Yep. >> Yep. Everything I'm telling you is exactly 100% accurate and correct. >> Well, that's what I was just reiterating so you understand that I'm listening to what you're saying just as much as to what he's saying. >> All right. But you're I I I gave you the piece of law that gives me express permission to be doing what I'm doing. federal law. >> That's why they told you to leave the facility. >> No, that's not the way it works. >> That is the way it works. >> No, it's not. You're uneducated. It's not the I promise you it's not the way it works. And if you know if you know who we are, you know that I'm out there defending good policing and good police officers. And I stand up for good police officers. And we have wonderful conversations with law enforcement all over the country. I've been 29 states in the past year and a half on my own dime. Okay? trying to make this a better place and a better world and trying to close the gap between the police and the citizens so there can be some communication and dialogue so you guys can stop getting hurt and killed on the street every day because they're clowns like you. No, you're not. >> You're what you're doing is you're getting No, you know what you're doing? You're getting your boys and blue brothers and sisters killed and hurt every day with your attitude. That's what you're doing. Yeah, >> that's what you're doing. So, you're the you're the >> trying to keep a calm dialogue between the two of us. >> No, you're passive aggressive. You're not calm. >> You're not calm. You're passive aggressive. >> I'm being aggressive. >> Do you not understand English? >> Do you know what passive means? >> Well, I I do. >> Okay. >> When the supervisor arrived, everything suddenly shifted. At that point, it was no longer about who spoke louder, but about who actually held the law on their side. >> Absolutely. Yes, sir. Appreciate you. >> He came out, spoke to them. documents. >> I mean, I mean, if you want to be a part of this, dude. >> Oh, yeah. I absolutely do. >> I want to document the uh mistreats that you're involved. >> And that's what I've been told by the manager here. He's trying to get a trespass letter. He wants them trespass. And that's kind of >> put together. >> He's trying to He doesn't have a generic part. >> Okay. All right. Do we >> uh No, we don't have generic heard that. >> Yeah. >> All right. Let go. >> And again, Serge, just be be a man of your word and before you make that decision, have the conversation with me because I don't want you to make a mistake. >> No, I talk to everybody. >> His name is Very good. >> Okay. Let's talk. >> You ready? >> Tell me what's the deal. What What are you guys down here for? >> All right. I'm going to explain to you exactly what's going on. Okay. First of all, these on that sun is killing me right now. >> Absolutely. You got it. And I appreciate you being professional and cordial and hearing me out. Okay. First, I'm going to start with my right to be here. Okay. There's something called poster 7 hanging in the lobby. Okay. which expressly gives me a right to be on this property in lobbies, entrances, foyers, taking photographs and video for news purposes, which is what I'm doing. >> Okay. >> Okay. Then there's a Department of Homeland Security memo, which is was issued redacted in 2010, which was then 8 years later unredacted in 2018, which gives me express permission to be on federal pro, not just post offices, any federal property, and photograph the inside and the outside of anywhere that's not restricted. >> Okay. >> Okay. Indoors. outside. I could photograph restricted areas all day long. Long as I don't go into the restricted area. So, the way the law works, okay, as long as I'm standing somewhere where I'm allowed to be, I can take video and photographs of anything I can see. You can't trespass somebody's eyes. >> So, the real question here is not whether or not I'm allowed to take video and photographs. The real question here is whether or not I'm allowed to be on this property. >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983. Individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/ police chief. The police left the scene. The auditors briefly re-entered the lobby and then walked away on their own terms. Up next, the citizen was merely filming on public property and was immediately treated like a trespasser. I said, "We don't you affiliated with what?" >> Well, no. What did you say? I didn't hear it. >> I said, "We don't really care what your purpose is." >> You don't care what my purpose is. >> No. >> Okay. >> So, you can film from out in a parking lot, but not on our property. That's still on our property. >> Whose property is this? >> What? >> Whose property is this? >> The state, >> right? Which makes it public property. >> Like, >> what I'm doing is I'm an investigator journalist, and I'm working on a story. >> All right. Let me see your credentials. >> Uh, I don't really care what your purpose is. I'm not interested in having a conversation. If you don't show your credentials, we're going to call the cops. >> You can call whoever you want to call. That's up to you. >> Okay. >> Knock yourself out. >> Let me see your ID. >> Let's see your ID. Yeah. >> Cops are right here. >> A clown. >> Yeah. There's an officer right there. >> Cops are right here. >> Hi, sir. You would you like these gentlemen to leave your >> Pardon me? >> Would you like them? Are they good out here or you want them to leave? >> We don't want them to leave. They're standing here. They're filming the customers for >> So, you want some trespass? >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Well, you know, nobody first of all. >> First of all, let me have a conversation with you. I was not asked >> Great. Can I get a >> I was not asked to leave. >> The store manager didn't care about the facts. Just didn't like it and wanted them gone. And the police showed up as if a serious crime was unfolding right in front of them. >> You're going to try to trespass somebody and arrest somebody for taking pictures in public? I wouldn't do that if I was you. It's not a good idea. And a matter of fact, we're not even on their property. >> I told them what I'm doing. I said, "I'm working on a store." >> And they're taking pictures of the customers. >> Perfectly legal. >> It is. >> Of course it is. I'm in public. >> I can do that. >> But they don't have to do it on their property, right? >> I'm not on your property any longer, am I? >> I'm down here. >> Frank, can I ask you where the property line is? >> Frank, what's your last name? >> Ryerson. R Y A S O. >> Mr. Ryerson, can you tell me where the property line is? >> No. >> Well, then how am I supposed to leave your property if I don't know where it is? >> I said you go out in the middle of the parking lot. >> This is I'm in the I'm >> This is still our >> I'm right in front of this building. >> Yes. >> That's not the way it works. I want to supervise it. >> You're not going to trespass perfectly lawful, constitutionally protected activity. Otherwise, you're going to be facing a very serious lawsuit. I don't want to do that either. That's not funny. It's really not funny. You just pull You just threaten to arrest. Just try I'm going to threaten. >> You got to think you got a lot of serious things going on in this town and you're threatening me with arrest for taking pictures. >> I need your ID so I can formally put you in our system as your trust. >> That's not the way it works. I'm not going to formally be in your system. I didn't break the law. >> He asked me to Where did you when you had pulled up, what was I doing? I was walking off of the property. Correct. >> I was walking up to your car. I was walking off the property. Correct. So he asked me to leave and I left. >> End of story. Not going to be trespassed from somewhere. That's unreasonable. and not an offer. >> Are you going to get a supervisor for me? >> I'm getting murderers coming down. >> Okay. >> No crime, no disturbance. Yet, they demanded ID under threat of arrest. One wrong decision in a matter of seconds and it could turn into a federal lawsuit. >> They want you trespass, right? >> They have no lawful reason. >> You have no idea on your but >> I'm standing here taking pictures. You're going to arrest me for taking photographs in public? >> No. Listen, it's their business, right? So, they want you trespass. >> Am I required to as well? You just earned yourself a lawsuit last night. >> No, that's they want you trust. >> No, you're going to Well, you guys are the ones demanding my ID under threat of arrest, right? >> So now you just facilitated the lawsuit against >> and I'm going to win and I'm also informing you that you're violating my rights. So you're aware of that business, right? >> You don't know who I am. This is not a business. >> This is a public. >> So you're saying they don't have the right to kick out people who are being put in our system. You don't have to. I don't know what you were doing, but they want you. >> Well, I don't know what I have to give you if you're threatening people with arrest. So, >> it's all on two camera >> because they want you trespass. >> Well, they could want me sent to Mars. You're going to do that, too. >> You have to follow the law, buddy. That's the way it works. >> Can I get a supervisor, please? I've asked 15 times. Or do I have to call 911 myself? >> Do it. >> You're not going to get a supervisor? >> She's already called for one. >> Okay. >> Last night. >> How we doing, bud? >> Not too bad. How are you? >> Oh, pretty lousy right now. This is what you do to people that take pictures in public in Portland. Listen, the business wants you trespass. >> It doesn't matter. >> It does. >> This is public property. Do you understand that this is public? If I had a business, it would be private property. This is public property. You're making a mistake. You could smile and smirk all you want. >> No. So, listen. So, let's say if you had a business, right? >> It would be a private business. >> Open to the public, right? >> No. It would be open to whoever I allow into my private business. >> Okay. So, >> that's not the way it works. Private property and public property is a different story. Completely different story. Completely different set of rules. The only way you could trespass me the only way you could trespass me off of public property is if I've committed a crime. You cannot trespass someone from public property when they have committed no crime. That's the way that works. You're going to learn the law today. You're making a mistake. >> When the citizen asked, "What happens if I don't give you my ID?" The officer's answer exposed everything. This was no longer a check. It was coercion. >> Has to be obnoxious. >> She had a reason to ID you and that was she had no lawful reason to ID. I'm going to back her play with very limited information. Right now, >> you can back up her play whatever you want. >> They want you. >> She made a mistake. >> Okay. So, are you going to sue the liquor store, too? >> I'm going to sue. Yeah. I'm not going to sue anybody. My attorney's office. >> Oh. >> Oh, wow. This guy's US Marshal acting like that. >> US Marshall. Fugitive passport. Really? Wow. >> Did you give her your name? >> Yeah. >> Good. Under threat of arrest. Y >> good. Good. Did you ask her specifically if she was going to arrest you? Good. >> Well, there you go, guys. That's prime example. They want to threaten me with arrest. I'm not going to bunch of piece of [ __ ] cops. >> I'd rather I'd rather allow them to violate my rights and then we'll just sue >> and that's what's going to happen. I'll be on the phone with my attorney this afternoon. >> Did she ever inform me I was trespassed? >> Uh, no. >> Did she say she said she was going to trespass me and that she called the supervisor? The supervisor was on his way here, right? >> Yeah. There are property lines like right past this space. >> On that side of the space? >> No, on this side of the space. this on. >> Yeah. [snorts] >> Are you filming people when you walk around? >> Mind your business. >> No, it is my business if you're filming me. >> Mind your business. >> I don't want to hear it. >> Excuse me. >> Excuse yourself. There's no excuse. Mind you Mind your business. >> I can call the police if you're filming me without my permission. >> Yeah, that's what you can do. You can call your mother, too. >> It's against the law. >> It's against the law to film you without your permission. You're a clown. You're a clown. Get back in your car and go home. Go back to Washington. So, what was that all about? >> I don't know. Law enforcement's really got a a thing. >> The officers withdrew in silence, but the question remained hanging in the air. Were they enforcing the law or violating it? Next, a man is stopped in the middle of the road without knowing what he did wrong. But the worse is yet to begin. >> Now get out of the car or I'm going to make you get out of the car. one. Dude, if I have to get pull you out. [music] >> OW. >> GET OUT OF THE CAR. >> GET OUT. >> Less than 30 seconds later, the gun was drawn. Threats were made. 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[music] Really? 301 314. >> Hey man, you carrying Indian car. >> You got you got some medical marijuana. I got Can I have a back? >> You carrying Indian? >> I haven't drank anything. >> That's not what I asked you. >> No, but you're a [ __ ] for beating me up. >> Okay. So, is that a yes or no? >> Made me a lot of money. $97 million. >> Is that a yes or a no? >> You take off? >> No. >> Can I actually call my lawyer? >> I don't need to >> call my lawyer. You want to uh >> Can I call my rolling around? >> Roll back over on your side, man. We're going to fix these cuffs. Okay. No, no, no, no, no, [screaming] no. >> Fix these. I got gloves, but here you go. >> I think we set him up. Then we get to start. Maybe unless you're going to roll. >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983. The individual/organization may be required to pay restitution to the injured party. In severe or intentional cases, punitive damages may be ordered. The 911 call had barely ended when four officers showed up. But what exactly were they expecting to find? Two men armed with nothing more than a three-foot stick [music] and a camera. >> It's not their policy. I can assure you of that. >> So, what do we got to do to get you to leave the building? Then >> ask nicely and maybe I'll go outside and continue the conversation with you. >> Okay. >> But, you know, when you tell me I have to leave, that's an unlawful order and that's not something I'm going to, you know, I don't I follow 100% follow lawful orders. I completely ignore >> Well, you said to shut the cameras off. Well, well, when you have someone coming in that is >> that's not the onus is I'm not HIPPA certified. The onus is on them to protect their privacy, not me. This is a public lobby and anything I can see with my eyes, I can record. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> That's the way it works. Audio and video. >> Well, that person doesn't want the face on the video then. >> Well, that's you know I as a human being I would respect that if they asked me that. But I actually just had a little quick conversation with him. He was being pleasant, smiling, >> no issues. Didn't ask me to turn my camera off. Had no issues with it. [music] So, I don't want to assume he's got issues that he doesn't have. You know what I mean? And I'm not looking to give you a hard time. I'm just looking to walk in here, ask a question, get the answer, and leave. I would have been out of here in 30 seconds. >> Did you get to ask the question? >> I'm What? >> Did you get to ask your question? >> Oh, I got to ask my question, but it it was not answered. >> What was your question? >> I We came inside. Okay. Asked them what I said, "My name is Jason, and I'm here to find out what services you provide here at the health department." So, the young lady, >> they didn't answer that question. I'm trying to explain to you. So the lady with the blonde hair right there said to me, "I'll go get somebody that'll speak to you." >> Okay. So then another lady came out with uh brunette dark hair, older lady probably around my age, came out and said, "Uh, can I help you gentlemen?" I asked her the same question. I said, "I'd like to know what can you please tell me what your name is. My name's Jason. Can you give me your first name and tell me what services you provide here at the health department?" >> Okay. >> Identity statute order to leave. who actually has the authority to say you must and who is calm enough to ask back what law did I break >> and why aren't they going to give me information because I'm recording if I wasn't recording would they have answered my question >> most likely but they >> so the issue is the camera >> most likely that if you leave your name and number they'll have someone call you and answer >> I could have I could have saved myself a trip and made a phone call I came down to visit the health department >> I'm just telling you what >> part of part of my story is getting video and and the of the building and the area and just putting together a pack. >> The building's fine. The area is fine. Sticking a camera [clears throat] in their face and wanting information out of them on the spot without them pre-noticing. >> I stuck I stuck a camera in their face the same way I'm sticking a camera in your Well, I don't have to listen to anything, but I will. >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Well, I don't have to listen to anything either. >> You don't have to be here. There's no lawful reason for you to be here. >> Came in somebody's face. >> I did not. That's you're you're sensationalizing. There is no sticking a camera in anybody's face. >> A conversation though, right? We've established that it's kind >> I'm not following what you're saying. No, I'm still stuck on the fact that you're saying Nope. I'm still N. >> So they don't want >> What if my son's a high school student? He's working on a project for high school and that's why we're here. >> Require some pre-notification. You >> call and set up something. You wouldn't >> Well, but maybe that's maybe that's what you would do. That's not what I would do. >> That's all that they're asking. >> Well, let me tell you something. >> No, let me tell you something. I did my homework before I got here. Okay. >> Understand that. >> There is no policy. There is no rule. And there is no Nebraska state law, county law, or anything that prevents me from videoing inside this office. Absolutely not. Call your district attorney and find out. >> Well, if that's true, so it is true. >> But now they don't be here. >> But they can't ask me to leave a public place without a lawful reason. No, you can't. Have I violated a law? >> We are asking you to leave. They don't want you. >> You can ask and I can respectfully decline. >> Well, you're disturbing their peace right now. >> No, I'm not disturbing anybody. This is disturbing their peace. I was sitting here silently until you walked in. Call the DA in check. The clash between policy and law erupted. When internal rules collide with constitutional rights, which one must yield? >> You're not going to do that. >> Never happened. Never happened. There was never a disturbance. >> That's what the woman just told me. >> She can tell you anything she wants to tell you. The camera's the objective witness that never lies. >> You're skipping over the issue. >> I'm not skipping over anything. You're You're skipping over the fact that I walked into a public health office to ask what services are provided here and I was denied service. What did you guys want? That's what you're saying. >> Didn't I ask you that when I first got here? What? >> Same thing I've been saying since I got here. >> Didn't I ask you that though? What did you want? I never skipped over it. That was the first question out of my mouth. Exactly. Thank you. >> I'm having a hard time keeping up with your circle jerk logic. So, you you win that conversation. >> The only one circle jerk in is you right now. >> Okay. >> So, why don't we just end So, here's what here's what I'm going to do. Here's what I'm going to do to make it simple for you. Conversation's over. Have a nice day. >> Perfect. Just >> and I'll leave when I'm ready to leave. I don't want to hear Don't wrestle with a lollipop in your mouth. Don't eat yellow snow. Don't sleep with your partner's wife. Okay, >> I get it all. I'm older than you are. Have a nice day, adios. >> I understand frustrated, but >> I'm not frustrated at all. I'm being direct. >> No, no, you >> there's zero frustration. >> You're you're insinuating that >> you're getting frustrated. >> types of issues going on here that we would never >> I don't need to hear your explanations. I don't need your advice. >> Inside the window into the building. >> He doesn't need to answer your questions either if he doesn't want to. >> We never We're talking We're talking >> Listen, conversation's over, guys. Have a nice day. I wish you the best of luck and stay safe. >> Were you videotaping inside of the building? Outside of the this public area? Even if I was, that's perfectly legal. >> Even if I was confidential information later, you can't just >> Well, then they the onus is on them to guard that private information. Absolutely is. Familiarize yourself with hippo laws. You have no idea what my education is and what I know. >> Can you show us the video? >> Absolutely not going to show you my video. No, absolutely not. >> No, not the way you're behaving. Might have been on a different different day, a different time. >> A different day, different time. You're going to act the way you act, and that's this is how it is. >> The door stayed open. The camera kept rolling. But when the dust finally settled, who was really under scrutiny? The man holding the camera or an entire system terrified of transparency. I mean, it's absolutely incredible that these people that choose to work in the public sector in a public office decide to behave this way. Um, doesn't really make any sense to me. And if you're really that concerned with your privacy and you don't want to work in public, go get a job at a bank in the back room counting money or something. Don't get a job. Like I said, people come in here in crisis. People come in here needing help and assistance. And to have women like this working behind the counter or men, doesn't matter if women or men. I'm just saying women because that's who happens to be here today. Um it's a disgrace and it's a disgrace for the Nebraska State Department of Health. And we're going to be sure to let them know that this happened here today and make sure they see this video and uh make sure that these women get some training and some education. Uh, you know, like I said, I think the police, if we were not educated, we didn't know what we were talking about. Um, I think the police would have gone a totally different direction. Uh, but knowledge is power, guys, and you got to know what you're doing. You got to do your homework, and you got to know what the law is. And, uh, once you do, you got to stand up for what's right. Uh, and that's what you saw here today. So, obviously, on a personal level, I'm not looking to upset these ladies. They chose to do that for themselves. Um, I was being courteous, offered my name, told them we were here working on a story, um, and just asked for some very basic information about the services which they were unwilling to provide. Um, so major fail for the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services. >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional rights. Pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983, individuals/organizations are required to pay damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/ police chief. The officer's conduct in this incident may amount to a constitutional violation, an abuse of authority by attempting to force someone out of a public space without any lawful basis. Up next, just a single camera standing outside the fence and instantly the jail triggered a soft alarm. You guys don't Do you understand that you guys have no authority outside of this fence? Let him enjoy the sunshine. It's a beautiful day. What's wrong with you? Stay in there where you belong. >> Have a good day, gentlemen. >> Thank you. >> It's amazing how they think they have anything to do with what goes on outside the fence. >> Yeah, >> it really is. And they're making these poor girls go inside with the dogs now. Well, at least they're taking the dogs with them, so they're going to have a little in time inside time. I'm sorry that uh that had to happen to him, but I don't hold myself responsible for the decision that that uh guard made. That was her call, not mine. It really is wow. They just enjoy exercising their authority. You see her start screaming, "GIRLS INSIDE RIGHT NOW." Imagine having to listen to that. My grandfather gave me some great advice, guys, many, many years ago when I was a little kid. Stay out of jails and hospitals. >> No reason, no legal basis. Yet, they came out to the fence and began issuing orders to someone standing on a public sidewalk. Is this jail security or just a habit of unchecked control? >> Unbelievable. And you can see the cigarette sitting right there on the drain. I'll try to zoom in on it for you so you guys can see it. That uh and that I'm not making a big deal out of nothing. Littering pisses me off like nothing else. Ask the watchman. He's never been able to throw a piece of paper on the ground. I think that's disgusting. Stick it in your pocket and take it to a garbage can. And I'm seriously not making a big deal out of that for nothing. That has been a pet peeve of mine since I was a kid. That's how my father raised me. When I used to smoke cigarettes years ago, my wife would tell you, uh, I used to take the butts and stick them in the little watch pocket of my jeans. And when she'd go to do the laundry, there'd be like 10 disgusting cigarette butts in my pocket cuz I wouldn't throw them on the ground. It's a terrible thing to do. Sorry. It's a beautiful world we live in, guys. I think that's the problem with people that live in cities. They don't see nature enough. When you look at the mountains and you look at the rivers and the the great plains and the >> And just a few minutes later, a seemingly small detail flipped the entire situation. Who was actually breaking the law? The inmates or the very people guarding them? >> How we doing, sir? >> I'm good. You two are just the two I need to talk to. >> Good. Uh, you're the guy I need to talk to. We were just looking for an officer in the DOJ. >> Okay. Give me one second. I'll I'll talk to you about my thing and then you can talk to me about yours. >> Sure. >> Um >> well, mine's a violation of the law I want to report, so I don't know what's more important to you. >> Well, >> and can I just get your name and badge number so I know who I'm speaking with, please? >> Officer Shre 457. >> Thank you. My name's My name's Jason. Just >> Hi, Jason. >> Ben. >> Ben. Uh, warden called because you guys looked suspicious and he stated that you guys were filming the female inmates >> walking around the public sidewalk taking pictures, >> right? So, um, >> guilty is charged. >> Fair enough. >> Sorry, I just heard some dumb. >> No, no worries. Yeah, we made sure we stayed on the public side. We checked all the GIS maps and surveys and we know what we're, you know, we don't tracking. Um, if you guys got the footage you need there, then the problem is solved. I'd appreciate it if you just didn't keep filming them. >> Well, I want to >> So, you don't get bothered again by some of >> I I've been bothered for 51 years, man. It doesn't bother me. >> Um, all right. So, is that that's it? >> That's all I have. They just ask you to please not film them. And I understand it's public and everything else, >> right? >> However, it made the warden nervous. So, I talked to you guys about it and that's that. >> There you go. >> So, what can I help you guys with? >> All right. So, what's that statute number? 75-10-233. >> 7510233. >> Okay. >> Which leaves you no room for discretion. The statute actually states that you are mandated to write the ticket. So the gentleman that drives that black Tahoe parked right there who works for the prison >> threw a cigarette butt on the sewer drain. >> The police arrived. They didn't pursue a suspect. They didn't secure evidence. Instead, they tried to steer the narrative. Is this an investigation or protection of their own? >> We have you guys go and testify. Well, it's on video. We're just the middle. All we do your full name >> and the uh cigarette still sitting there. >> Okay. Your full name. >> Well, when you tell me you're going to write the infraction, I'll give you my I'll give you my driver's license. I'll hand you my driver's license. >> I find the person that was driving that. >> Right. So, once you do that, I'll be happy to give you all my info cuz at that point, I know you're hold, >> right? >> I'm going to be standing right here. I'm not going anywhere. >> Okay. We have other calls that we're going to have to go to as well. >> Listen. So, how about I call you and >> No, there's in this I don't know what subsection you're talking about, but the statute that I'm referring to says that you do not have any discretion in this matter and you have to write the ticket. >> I have it on video >> how we investigate it and when we investigate it. So, if we got to go to other calls that are >> So, you guys are going to play that game. See, let me just tell you something, okay? >> No, we're not going to leave. >> There's a big there's a there's a major divide in this country between law enforcement and the citizenry, okay? And what we're doing out here is trying to close that gap. That's our goal. I don't know if you guys know who we are. If you've seen any of our videos, you know what we do, okay? But we're trying to We don't believe in defund the police. We're not in any of that crap. We believe there are very good police officers in this country who do their jobs properly, and we support that. The guys that don't want to do their jobs, and the guys that want to make excuses and not uphold the law are getting other good police officers hurt. So, I hope that's not the two of you. >> I think we're done here. I'm sorry. >> Well, that's your call. >> You're not letting me help you. >> Well, you're playing it off real well. I appreciate you. That's the Yeah, sure you are. >> That's the thing. I'm trying to help you with this, but I've explained our policy and the fact that it's returned for followup so I can continue the investigation, but you won't give me your >> No, that's not the fact. You Well, I won't give you my information because you start barking out things like interfering and nonsense. You are a passive aggressive individual who thinks you're fooling me and you're completely full of [ __ ] and I see right through you. >> Well, you guys have a nice day. >> You do the same. >> Take care, guys. >> Yeah, you take care, too. And when your buddies in blue get hurt by somebody, don't blame me. Blame yourselves. >> I understand. >> Yep. I don't think you do. >> In the final twist, the place they claimed was under a strict lockdown wasn't locked down at all. It was just a cover to shield someone from having to answer a question. A seemingly routine stop quickly escalates into a controversial arrest. When the line between cooperation and coercion blurs, where do the limits of civil rights lie? >> So, who was involved with that? >> Whatever you know, you know. >> It's not whatever I know. I know. I don't think we got anything on him, but we could take him for obstruction technically cuz he basically lied the whole time saying there's no female ever in the car. So, >> on August 25th, 2022 in Flaggler County, Florida, an incident began when Flaggler County deputies stopped a man near a rented U-Haul truck. According to reports, they had received a tip about a domestic violence incident involving a vehicle matching the description of the U-Haul. The officers immediately asked the man to provide information about the individuals in the vehicle and whether he was involved in the incident >> technically cuz he basically lied the whole time saying there's no female ever in the car. So >> I don't know about that. >> Okay. >> What's your name? What's your name? >> What? >> Who's in the >> Where's your buddy? >> Huh? You know exactly what's wrong. Who was the buddy in the car with you? >> I'm being arrested. >> No, you're not being arrested. You're being detained. >> Who was in the car with you? >> What's the reason? >> I'm explaining it to you. We had a call with that U-Haul about some kind of disturbance. >> So, who was involved with that? >> Whatever you know, you know. >> It's not whatever I know. I know. >> 410. Come over here for me just so I so I can identify the artifact. >> You have an ID on you >> in your pocket you said right? >> There's not one pocket on the correct. >> Were you involved in some kind of disturbance or >> no? Alpha Lima 73 410 not one of the same. >> Correct. We were given Alpha Lima 50973. >> During questioning, the man repeatedly stated that he knew nothing about the situation and was merely a bystander. Despite his claims, the officers continued to press him, demanding that he confirm the identities of those in the vehicle and provide details about the incident. >> Look, you're not under arrest, okay? And I don't think you're the person that we're looking for, okay? But someone called in. Was that you guys or no? They didn't give us your name. No, they gave us the name Mark. Neville Mark. How many people were in that? Just two or is there more than you? >> I don't. >> There's never a girl in there. >> 31 victim said the suspect should be wearing a red shirt. >> You're not under arrest. Okay. >> Like I said, that kind of matches the description. I guess the girl was beat up. So, if you guys aren't involved, Hos come off and you're out of here. Okay. >> And like I said, this is you're not the name that we're looking for. They said Neville Mark, >> right? When the man refused to cooperate, the officers began applying pressure by presenting him with an ambiguous choice. You can be a witness or a suspect. This statement left the man confused and raised questions about the officer's authority in determining who is considered a suspect based solely on verbal statements. >> Stay right here real quick. Let me just check and then I'll chat with this cop. >> Who doesn't? >> Where's your phone? I don't listen$100. >> She said that you had nothing to do with it. So, no matter what, you're probably >> I tried telling them that there was no female ever in the car with you. >> She was not in the car. Even though Even though the U-Haul's rented by her in Orlando, y'all went him and her went to Jacksonville to pick you up and back to Orlando. That ain't her. I hear you. But that means yes, we're not sued. >> You can't use the whole rental agreement. >> Well, you're not being >> Well, you could be a witness. You could be a suspect. >> Hey, if y'all treat me like a criminal, I'm I'm going stand here like a criminal. >> I'm talking to you like you're not. Don't just just please. You're making me mad because I'm in cry. You pulled up on me with guns. You pulled up me with a gun. Like I don't got time for you, bro. >> You have the right on. >> You got a picture the picture up. >> Although there was no direct evidence linking him to any crime, the officers decided to arrest him on charges of obstructing an investigation. Their reasoning was that he had lied about whether a woman was in the vehicle. The officers claimed that he had provided false information even though he had simply refused to answer their questions. >> Huh? >> No, you can come before we got too scared. >> I don't think we got anything on him, but we could take him for obstruction technically cuz he basically lied the whole time saying there's no female ever in the car. So, >> I don't know about that. >> Okay, that's your story. You can just take the ride, boss. All right. You don't know nothing. No one was ever in the car with you. No female was there. >> I ain't going to say that. >> Yes, you did. You said no female was ever in the car with you. >> We're here investigating a felony domestic violence case. Okay. And you're obstructing our efforts. >> I ain't Y'all pulled up on me with guns. That's a lawsuit. >> You want to be technical talking about obstruction? >> Okay. >> Y'all pulled up on me with guns. >> Okay. >> I want to hear that in court that I'm obstruction. >> Take an innocent bystander to jail. You say you're innocent. You lied to us the whole time. >> All right. >> I don't understand. Now you saying >> why? >> I don't understand. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Have a seat. Put your >> We were investigating a felony domestic violence case. You lied to us. Said there was no female ever in the car. >> I've never said that. >> The pressure did not stop there. The officers further coerced him by stating that if he cooperated and explained the situation, he would only be considered a witness. However, if he remains silent, he would be treated as a suspect and taken to jail. >> Mr. Putnham. All right. Look, I'm going to give you one chance if you want to talk your way out of the back of this car and explain to us what happened because she's saying that you're the one that's trying to like deescalate things and that you're not even involved. >> Do you want to tell us what happened or do would you rather take the ride for obstruction? >> Ride for what? for lying to us. >> I didn't lie to you about nothing. >> Not go to jail. >> Jail for what? >> Obstruction. >> Obstruction for what? What I do? >> For lying? That's what I'm asking you. >> Okay, let me go. >> Do you want to tell us what happened? >> I want to go, bro. >> I just want to go. >> Explain to us what happened and then we can treat you as a witness. You can be a witness. >> You could be a witness or you could be a suspect. What? That don't make no sense, bro. Like, how do you have the power to do that, bro? That's how it work. You could just what? ads, little tits and tats if you like. >> What are you talking about? Ad stuff >> like that make no sense, bro. I'm a bystander. I was walking. >> I was walking in the store, bro. Whatever. >> I don't know what he's talking about, bro. >> If the arrested man were to file a lawsuit or if the US Department of Justice Doge launched an investigation, the involved officers could face civil complaints and financial compensation liabilities under 42 USC 1983. criminal liability, including imprisonment if convicted under 18 USC 242 or 18USC510, and internal disciplinary actions such as suspension or termination if found to have committed misconduct. The case highlights the importance of the right to remain silent, transparency in law enforcement, and police accountability [music] when citizens rights are violated. A country is only truly safe when its citizens can hold their government accountable. Not in fear, but as a shared duty to keep society honest and fair. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? 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