Today, I'm not going to give it to you. Well, no. You're supposed to have ID on you. What? I'm not >> you were trespassing. I didn't I haven't gone on the property. I'm asking I'm asking you simply for ID. But I haven't broken a law. >> ID. What's your name? >> the law. No violation, no charges, yet the police still demanded ID, and the price they paid was far from small. No, we have no bad intentions, dude. We're just filming. Is that Is that a publicly accessible area right there? No. You're allowed to take photos from a public thoroughfare. Okay? This is, from what I'm being told, is private property. The representative of the property has asked you to leave. Just one unlawful demand for ID, but the consequences didn't stop at the scene. They followed the officer into their record, their career, and even the courtroom. Just a camera and a public sidewalk, but minutes later, this woman was ordered to show ID and face the risk of jail. What really happened? Hey, Ray. Yeah. Were you uh over at the bus stop earlier? Yeah. What are we What are we >> Can I get your name and ID? Yeah. Give me two. Okay. Ready? For offer 206677. >> Good to meet you. So, what were you doing over at the bus stop? Uh taking pictures of the route on the signs. Yeah. Then I took pictures of the flags. Okay. And uh walked down and took pictures of the signs, like for handicap parking. Then I walked up to the lobby and took pictures of the door. Yeah. Yeah. And then I took pictures of that art exhibit of that bike thing for the public on the public sidewalk to walk up to. So, did they tell you to leave the property? Well, they said it was against their policy, and I said, "Well, I'm not going past your gates." And the only reason I talked to him was he called me over there. So, I talked to him and asked his >> the property? No, I didn't go past his gates. Everywhere public here on the sidewalks, the flags, the part where you get on the bus and where the public parts to get on the bus is all I was taking pictures of. It's a sign. So, uh So, I don't know what their issue is with it because it's public property. Here's the deal. Uh-huh. Um It's a business. Yeah. It's public property. It's a business. So if you're on their property and you're not there to take the bus or on business with them and they ask you to leave, you got to leave. This is public property. I can walk all up and down this and take pictures of this place. >> off their property. >> I'm not going over into that. >> Okay. Yeah, that's Yeah, okay. >> They don't want you on their property. So we get a go over there. I didn't go over there. Let me talk. Okay. We get a call here and you're on their property. >> Yeah. We're taking you to jail cuz you've been warned. This is your warning. His His supervisor even said, "Well, as long as she's out there on the sidewalk, she's fine." So I don't know what I don't I'm not going on the property. Okay, no problem. Good deal. I didn't go and I'm not going to From what seemed like an ordinary conversation, everything began to go off course within minutes. And right after this, the most controversial demand was made sending the situation spiraling out of control. I don't want to. What's your name? I'm not going to give it to you. Well, no. You're supposed to have ID on you. What? I'm not driving a car. You got to have some form of ID on you to identify yourself. No. No? Well, why would I give you ID for taking pictures in public? They said you were trespassing. That's why we're out here. >> I didn't go over there though. I Ask him. They'll tell you I didn't go over there. >> you were on the property. I was on the public sidewalk. >> your What's your name? I'm not I'm not going to give that information. >> What's your name? I have no reason to give you that information. >> were trespassing. But Luke, their video shows that >> yourself, we'll take you to jail. That would be a shame. Well, I haven't gone on the property. I haven't gone on the property. >> you simply for ID. But I haven't broken a law. >> What's your name? >> the law and I'm not driving a car. I'm taking pictures in public. >> What's your name? I'm sorry. I don't want to give that information out. Why not? I have no reason to. I haven't done anything wrong. If I broken a law, You uh See if I can go get the video and camera footage and see if she was on their property. And uh if so, we'll detain you and figure out who you are. Okay. Okay. I never did go on the property. I've been all on this public area. I asked the guy I know I asked him, he said you're on the property. I never went over there. >> a hundred times. Not a hundred, but I never went over there on their property. I've been all on this public access. Like why why can't you just give me your name and info? I gave you my name and info. Because you're working in your official capacity and you approached me. >> and don't have I I don't need one to walk out on the road in public. You're supposed to have an ID on you. It's a law that every American has to have an ID. This is not a For one, it's not a stop and ID state. Number two, I didn't break a law. Show me Show me. I hope you know that. Well, the Constitution has it written out pretty clear. Then then the Supreme Court said you don't have to have any any permission to take pictures at public The story was no longer about taking photos. It shifted to something far more dangerous. Power and control. With no clear evidence, a choice was still put on the table. And the officer's words began to contradict the very law they were claiming to enforce. You were on their property. I've been everywhere in public. Anyway, yes, the guy. I never went over there. I've been in all this public area. I never went past anything. Now, they go all the way up to your police station, which is public. I'm not I'm not I know, but I did the same thing there. I didn't do anything. Well, I'll explain to you what I've done. You're not listening [clears throat] to me. I do listen. If you want to say it in a different way, I'll listen again. So, if they have video and you're on the property, they said they want to prosecute. So, if you're on their property and they want to prosecute, Okay. we'll arrest you. All right. Thank you. How sweet of you. That's how the law works. Mhm. You should know that. You seem to be pretty informed. I'm probably going to run out of video at some point. I'm good. You good? Yeah. So, you're just out taking pictures? Yeah. >> Yeah. You just like taking pictures? It's called photography. Yeah. No handcuffs were brought out, but the boundaries of the law were pushed to a dangerous edge. And just when things seemed to calm down, a remark that sounded almost joking exposed the biggest problem of the entire incident. Don't be on the property. So. Do you understand that? You're on their property. And we don't want any problems. All right. Got it. >> Any questions? No. All right. Wall of shame. There was no arrest, but what was said is what makes viewers stop and think. When the police walked away, one question remained. Was this a routine check or evidence of a deeper problem in the way the law is enforced? Citizens may file lawsuits against police under Section 1983 if their rights are violated. Officers found to have violated those rights could face financial liability, disciplinary action, or even termination. Up next, just seconds after the camera started rolling, no one expected a completely lawful act to trigger a chain of tension that drew in multiple law enforcement officers. Yeah, I don't I don't understand that. All right. Why would you lie? Show me my ID. Well, basically you know, with everything that happened that happened down there. Just saying that in this day and That's what you want to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys see them in the television like they people, yeah, even though they say they have to leave. I don't think they would be filming if they had I understand that, but we just basically, you know, just But my ID ain't going to tell you what my intentions are. That's the thing. You know what I mean? I mean, well, you know my name. How is that going to help you to figure out my intentions? Right? I mean think about that. >> how how's the how's the plastic is the plastic going to transport you into my into my thoughts? No, we have no bad intentions dude. We just filming. Is that is that a publicly accessible area right there? No, it is a public area especially if you see too much Google Maps and all that [ __ ] You don't want to go back. I thought he actually went in the building. Let me go in here. I was actually on the phone on phone call list. So I just wanted to come and check in. I didn't know if you guys were UPS and I was coming to pick up a package. Give me a few seconds here. I'll be right back. >> Are we are we allowed to to walk in here? Not at the moment but I'll be right back. But didn't you say it's publicly accessible? It is publicly accessible. I need that station right now because right now I'm the only one here on this end of the hall. So I got a phone call. I come to I'll be more than happy to come back after you talk to me. So let me get this phone call because I can get you the information. I thought you were >> the unit commander, sergeant? The unit commander? That would be Captain Stevens officer of the watch. And who's the PLC? Point? Uh, as far as this facility here? I'll be in charge of the building security unit security. Um, that's our residential service officer Allen. He's actually not here at the moment. No handcuffs, no clear accusations, and they even acknowledged this was a publicly accessible area. But just minutes later, the tone began to shift. The questions were no longer an exchange, gradually turning into a test of power. What? This is a secure facility. Why are you videoing? Because it's they told us it was public access. You can't take pictures of it. It's a secure facility. >> Everybody else is back here. Why are you videoing though? They said it was public access. That doesn't mean you can video while you video. >> Come talk to these guys. Why you. me why you're videoing? I would. Just because we want to see how the money's being spent for this building. We're doing a news story on the National Guard Armory. Here, come talk to these. So you can talk to us all at the same time. You got here pretty fast. Who are y'all with? I'm How are you? Good. Who are y'all with? Who are y'all videoing for? We don't ask questions. We're just taking video and of the facility. This is a secure facility, so The inside. The sign is right here where it says restricted area. That means past that secure point. This is a South Carolina National Guard Armory. That means that this is owned by the state. That means that this is public property. They even admitted that the lobby and this building is publicly accessible. Do not try to stand on my rights now. I'm a National Guardsman myself, so I know very well that this is public property. I have every reason to be here. I haven't broken the law. I haven't violated any provisions of South Carolina code or federal code. You have no jurisdiction to ask my ID, ask what I'm doing here, or tell me to leave. We're just here taking photographs and videos of this fine building and the people that happen to come out and talk to us. That's the only thing we're doing. Thank you. What is your name, ma'am? Right here. Can I get really close? What? Your name is right here. So we can call you right here. What if we can't read it? Do you know the What is it? The disabled persons act? Well, listen. What is your badge number? Those fine men that walked out of that building behind me called me here. Because you're videoing a secure facility. >> against the law to video? To video? >> We've already established and you agree that the secureness of the the building is inside of the building. >> Yeah, but you do realize I mean, you can ask us questions, but I mean, we don't have to answer. >> exa- examples. I haven't asked you by Friday, so all of that is on video. Well, they did. Well, I At this point, it was no longer just about filming. The arguments began to contradict each other, and the behavior changed noticeably. And only minutes later, the true attitude surfaced when power was put on the table >> [music] >> and reason slowly disappeared. You just want to take pictures. >> Okay. Okay, they called me here to figure out what was going on. Listen, but that's what I'm saying. I don't know why they would call you to figure out what was going on. >> them We told them the same thing. Okay, well, I'm doing my job because they called. Okay. I spoke with y'all, and I'm going to speak with them. Okay. That's what I do with every call. Can I get your name for the record? Okay, thanks. >> do that while you're at work, you know that? We can request I'm going to pull you your phone. >> We can request that. We can request that. Lieutenant Newman. Oh, Newman. If you're If If you're so scared, you shouldn't shouldn't be in the military, dude. All right? We don't need scary scary scary cats. Why are you ruining our [ __ ] And you got one dude hiding in the corner. >> Yeah, I see him with the PTs on. Oh, don't try to hide now. So, So, what do you What do you think about this new smell coming out of here? Two calls of concern. Uh I just got hot coming up here. Um What I heard them saying was I don't know. They're trying to figure out if we have any They should be in this parking lot without official business inside of it. This is This is official business, so So, that's that was his first question. And when I came out here, those two guys were talking about something about trespassing or this and this and this is a public property. That's when I walked back here, and then thirdly, that lady is going to whoop all y'all's ass. Hey, then. There ain't that much whooping in South Carolina. >> [laughter] >> If y'all had just left me alone, you wouldn't whoop all y'all's ass. Uh I I can't even save y'all, to be honest with you. I can't save you. She was not. She had a I'm going to pull my gun look on her face. Yeah, she was tapping the taser like this. Yeah, she was tapping Hey, she was tapping that taser like this, like this. Excuse me, she was shooting the [ __ ] out of And I was going to see it all. Uh you you was going to go to I went to court for y'all. I would have She was going to shoot this [ __ ] All right, can I have Deputy Morris, you have a horrible demeanor. We're asking you a question as a public servant. That's it, sir. You got a car? Uh let me see if I got one. Okay, I appreciate that. At this point, the story was no longer about right or wrong, but about who was controlling the situation. What was being said sounded familiar, yet the way it was applied raised serious questions. And then the final boundary began to slip as a request gradually turned into a command. I can roll the footage back. I got 17 minutes. >> I don't have to, cuz I was standing right here and he didn't say anything. >> completely it's a public He admitted that it's like public >> You cannot go in that building. That building is not public. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Oh my God, it was What is he Are you still in America? It's publicly owned. When they ask you to leave, this is a secure facility. So now it's publicly We own it, but we can't go in it. Oh, that's great. >> Okay. Just like you can't go in our building without permission. YES, WE CAN. YOU CAN'T GO IN THE LOBBY. AND THAT'S WHERE WE AND THAT'S THE LOBBY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING. LOOK AT THE WINDOW, DUDE. YOU DON'T HAVE A GATE IN YOUR OFFICE, EITHER. You got doors. You're not outside. And they got a system. You're irrational. You said this is So this is not a lobby. So this Is THIS NOT A CORRIDOR? This is a corridor. A corridor and a lobby and an auditorium is all the same thing. We're going to sit in the They have They have to go to the police academy group. Okay. Check Check this out. CHECK THIS OUT. OKAY. OKAY. MA'AM, LOWER YOUR VOICE. You have to leave. No, you've been loud with me. Now it's my turn to talk. >> I don't have to listen to anything you say. Hey, you're under arrest. You have a level of professionalism that you have to uphold. Hey, stop. >> Okay, well I was professional over there. I've asked you to leave. HOW ARE YOU BEING PROFESSIONAL? She said that we're not allowed to go inside. She said it 12 times. We can't go in this building because it's private, as she said. Freedom of the press. This is security. Okay. security Absolutely. Isn't the door locked? Can I just open the door and go in? I can't just WALK IN THERE. >> SECURE, THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T GO IN. OKAY, WE'RE NOT INSIDE. WE'RE OUTSIDE. SO, we're already left if we're not inside. No, you have to get off the property. >> Oh, so now you're telling me that I have to get off of the entire property. If you would listen to me the first time, I would have told you the property is out at the road. Why Why is it so hard to honor the the oath you swore to protect? Freedom of the press. Publicly accessible areas. This is not a public >> Okay, it's okay. I'm just going to go to the public easement because there's no sidewalk. I can stand there all day, correct? Absolutely. So, you might want to inform them that when they see us on the edge of the road and what they call their property, that we have every right to be so. Just like I have every right to be here and you're telling me to leave. Is this private property or is this building just secure? This building and property is secure. Oh, now it's the building and the property. No, I'm just asking about the property. I don't know. I get the security. This is locked. At this point, everything had gone far beyond an ordinary exchange. The atmosphere grew heavier and every word began to carry the weight of authority. What stood out was that as time went on, the demands became increasingly vague, while the consequences grew ever clearer. I'm going to come to the scene. Okay, he's already on the way. Okay. I will I would like to remain on scene until they get here, please. That way I'll be on the property. After I leave. If he If he says say Yeah, I mean we have the right to speak to the supervisor, right? Yeah, I want to talk to the supervisor. >> Absolutely. You have semi-rights. Yeah, I understand that. Just like I have the right to record in public, freedom of the It's like telling me I can't speak here, I can't pray. It's It's It's all a constitutionally first amendment you think They They just want you off the property. But they have no right That's a personal request. Personal about y'all. It's not. Ma'am, are you military? Are you military? No, sir. Okay, I'm military. I'm telling you If you speak to the security officer What's the sergeant's name that was out here first? The sergeant that was here first said that the security officer is not here. That's who he said that he was waiting to talk to I know the person who's in charge of this property right now. There's no one in charge of the building right now cuz they're not the security officer. That's not their job. I don't know why you guys are here. We literally just want pictures. That there, the flags and the building it's not We had no intention to Okay, but then can you get your pictures? >> We tried. So, with that being said, I'm glad you said that. Why are they telling us that we have to leave because it's private because it's it's private? Because we can't photograph private property. Yes, sir. I'm sorry. You're allowed to take photos from a public thoroughfare. Okay? This is from what I'm being told is private property. The representative of the property has asked you to leave. So, how is it private? I'm asking you to take your pictures from the public thoroughfare out there next to the road. As long as you're not in the roadway. All right. So, I'm asking you guys just go out to the road, do what you need to do, and we can all go about our Can we get the name of the owner? The owner is the state of South Carolina. It's my understanding the South Carolina has the property. So, that means that it's public. So, I'm not going to stand here and dispute this. No, I'm not asking for an argument. I just want to clarify. That's fine. But just so you know, we have a very huge audience, okay? We're not just some random guys with cameras. A lot of people are going to see this, and you guys are going to be very sad tomorrow about not not making the right decision. Tyre this one? Tyre Eagle maniac. Tyre. By this point, the message was clear. No handcuffs, no arrest, just enough pressure, and everything ends on their terms. They walked away in silence, but the camera did not. And what was recorded [music] here may be remembered long after they're gone. A healthy society is not built on fear, but on transparency, respect, and [music] accountability. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, [music] and support us with a donation. Thank you so much.