Take your camera and leave. >> No, captain. >> You better back off. >> You're going to be charged with assault if you touch us. >> sure not to delete that file because we will make be making a a request for that footage. >> Okay, sorry. >> I said it's a GoPro Hero 3 Plus. That's not a bad camera. >> No, it's not. >> No crime, no threat, just ignorance and an abuse of authority. This is how a small mistake can turn into a major legal problem. >> If we did that to what would you do? What would you do if I came up like that to you, sir? What would you do if I came up like that to you, sir? >> I wish you don't. I hope you don't. >> You specifically know that you're not supposed to ask me for ID because I haven't committed a crime, but yet you want the ID to try to hem me up and run my name and try to catch me on something. >> When inexperienced officers encounter law-abiding citizens who know the law, one wrong decision in a matter of minutes can destroy an entire career. The family arrived outside Naval Base Coronado during a trip to celebrate a 50th birthday. Then a single comment from a military officer turned that family birthday into a tense confrontation. >> Hey, you can't be taking pictures on the base. >> It is community watch out here at Naval Amphibious [music] Base Coronado. We're getting yelled at. We've been here a whole 5 seconds. [music] Already getting yelled at. Take a step in, son, so your back's not in the street. Come on, step in. Yeah, we're good. No. So, you're not Hey, so your back's not in the street yet. We're on a public right-of-way here. Out here with the family. These guys are yelling at us. This is the bus stop, is that? >> At this point, the tension was no longer about the camera, but about the distance between the two sides. One wrong step forward [music] and everything could spiral out of control. And then, just as voices grew more rigid, an unexpected move emerged. One that was about to change the direction of the confrontation. >> Okay, you are in position and in position to make pictures of over here. >> First Amendment. >> First Amendment, the the Constitution, sir. Same thing you took an oath to. >> I own my own I own >> Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I own my own magazine organization. >> Okay. >> Hey my my brother, you right. You know what? Hey, you right. You are right. You are right, man. >> No, no, no. >> How do you know that's not my folks? Take your camera and leave. >> No. >> You better back off. You're going to be charged with assault if you touch us. If we did that, what would you do? >> [music] >> What would you do if I came up like that to you, sir? What would you do if I came up like that to you, sir? I hope you don't do that again or you're going to be you're going to be taught a lesson today, sir. >> Stop that. Public property. We are on public property. >> You're going to get a free lesson today sir in the Constitution. No charge. >> That's all right. >> You come out like that man, that's wrong. >> Hey no brother, you wrong. But we asked you >> I got paperwork. >> Okay, let's get back to you. >> Look it. >> Let's get back on your base. You're off your property. >> Here, I'm going to show him law. If he wants to read it, this is that I'm classified. >> I read it brother. I'll read it. >> We're not trying to be confrontational but you came up pretty aggressive man. >> No, no man. >> Yeah, that that's the law bro. That's >> Okay. All right brother. >> We're not trying to be We're not trying to be rude. We just That was a memo that was sent to all federal complexes. We have no will We're not We have no We're not no threat. >> This is a publication we do. >> We we >> We're just within the system. We're a police accountability magazine. >> Yeah, we're just doing a little story. It's my 50th birthday and we're down here and we didn't know this was here. >> Okay. >> That's all we're doing. >> You got You got got any type of identification to >> We don't need it. We're We're free press. Yeah. I'm glad I'm glad you're reading it though so that we can we can have a dialogue sir. We're not We're not trying to be argumentative. We we we thank you for your service. >> Just as the [music] tension seemed ready to cross the line, a document was placed directly in front of the officer. Not an argument, but something that forced everyone to slow down. From that moment on, the confrontation was no longer about who spoke louder, but about who truly understood the law. >> We would not not go near your base. >> classified >> It was classified and then it got declassified in 2010. It was sent to all the courthouses. >> I said lawyer or legal representative gave it to >> Yeah. So that way it would it would ease the confrontation. >> All right. See, what you guys don't understand, ever since the 9/11 activity happened uh photographing any federal installation man That's a no no bro. >> But but it >> I know it's a no no society but >> Yeah. >> But >> And I understand I understand the story, man, but guys, you guys have to get a clearance through our legal department. >> No, we don't, sir. That's That's That's what the notion is. That's what the notion is. >> When the outside authority come, they're going to ask you guys to leave. >> No, they won't. They won't. That's why I was trying That's why I carry this. That's why we do this. >> So, I mean, you know, I'm reading [music] >> And and and if you want to read this one, this is the right for us to record the police. >> Well, you guys >> That's why >> [laughter] >> I'm a I'm >> recorded every day. Yeah, that's that's true. >> Thank you, Officer Gibbs. We appreciate you. >> I I appreciate you guys. You got a point. I got I can't argue that one. >> We come prepared, so that way Yeah. It's my 50th birthday, bro. We were just down here. We didn't see the facility. We were just taking [music] some pictures of it. It's beautiful down here. >> Where you guys from, man? You from San Diego? >> No, no, no, we're about 100 miles away. We just came down here for my birthday. >> LA or what? >> Yeah, towards LA, you know. We were just coming down here. I've been down here forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, you know what? You guys If you look at maybe a take a snapshot of it, so that way you guys can look it up. It would It would It would help you guys greatly for this for this because Look, look, confric- [music] confrontations like this makes you guys look bad sometimes, but this is the This is the reason that we do this is so we avoid all that, and then you leave knowing that we're okay, and we leave knowing that you're okay, and everybody knows the law, because that's what we're all all about. We're about being lawful. >> And I understand I understand where you come from, but see, the Navy has a a problem with anybody photographing their ECP. >> Yeah, yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? You know, and I think I think that's the that's that's the that's the issue, you know? not saying that you can't, I'm just telling you what the government have in there, you know. >> Yeah, yeah. >> The tension was no longer what it had been, but the conversation was far from over. As attitudes began to shift, a new question was raised. >> [music] >> And that question would steer the story in a different direction. One where the camera was no longer the only focus. >> We actually just went over the bridge. Yeah, I [music] wanted to take my kids over the bridge. We never had >> Can I can I get a picture of my >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. >> And I can show you some of my my security. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> And let them know what we up against. >> Yes, sir. And you know, you just you just made your I'm going to tell you right now cuz we post this, you just made your your your your base proud because we've had we've done the same story in other places and they've come out really nasty with us, you know, on the borderline of assaulting us. So so this is good to see this is good to see for the public to see that you guys are just normal people like everybody else. You're trying to protect our country. >> Treat we are. >> You're trying to keep everybody and that way they can see it's not we don't want to be biased, you know, we want we want them to see what really happens, the real interaction. So >> We're able to communicate. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And if you guys did contact law enforcement, we'll wait we'll wait so so we don't have to have them chase [music] us around and stuff. Yeah. We don't want to waste their time. Well, I mean so they don't have to try to look for us, you know. >> Pretty much you know, all they're going to do is tell you what I just said and you guys going to repeat what you just told me and and all they're going to do is just ask you guys probably to leave. >> Oh, I tell you that right now. >> And and I'll tell you what in another 5 [music] minutes and we'll be gone. We just we got to do what we got to >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, but you know, it's just like I just want you guys just to be aware. And any of these bases in San Diego when you rolled up like that they're going to send guys out. >> And and you know, that that's why we try We're going out and be in plain sight so that way they can see what we're doing. We're not trying to hide behind a bush and stuff like that. >> And like I said, I don't I really don't know that much about your organization. I really [music] don't. >> Free warm man. >> I'll tell you I'll tell you where it's going to be at. My channel's called High Desert Community [music] Watch. Community Watch. That's where it's going to be at. >> I'm team for justice. Team with the number four and then justice. We're all linked. This is my my son. >> Oh, really? >> At this [music] point, the conversation was no longer a confrontation, but an acknowledgement. As personal stories were shared, the bigger picture began to come into focus. And from here, everything moved toward its conclusion. Not with handcuffs, but with a lesson neither side would forget. >> There. Yeah, 17-year-old. Well, everything's been dropped. It became a big a big deal. So, we went over there to take photos to see what their reaction was. [music] He was 17 years old and they got educated because they they were respectful. The cops came out. They [music] were respectful. And that's what we're trying to say. We're just trying to make make sure that the balance is kept on that line, you know, that the authorities stay on their side and we stay on ours because I'm going to tell you this. And these are my kids. This is my daughter. She's pregnant. I'm very The reason The reason This is a friend and that's her boyfriend, but these are my kids. The reason we're out here we can stand over there, but the reason we try to be as legal as possible to show [music] that we're not trying to infringe or we don't want to go up to the line and do that kind of stuff. You know, we we stay [music] back a fair amount to let you guys know that we're here. We're not trying to We have no oil and tan. We're not trying And when we have confrontation, people talk to us. We love it because We do. We actually do, sir. >> I'll be honest with you. If we turn the tables around, if I was in your shoes, I would react the same way. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But >> Honest to God, I >> We're boys, man. We're boys. >> And man, you know what, man? And like I said, we We're missing My name is Philip. >> Philip Tony, man. >> Tony Enguimes. >> Elijah. Elijah. >> Elijah. >> We thank you. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, trust and understand, guys. So, >> You know what, man? >> You know what? Just to make it easy. >> Apologize if I came off a little rough. >> I did. >> Thank you, man. You know what, guys? I'm going to tell you something, man. We get some >> Yes, sir. >> shady stuff. >> Yes, sir. >> So, I have to put my shield [music] on >> Yes, sir. >> when I approach somebody. >> I apologize if I came off rude. >> You know what? Everybody can voice their opinion, right? >> We appreciate it. >> All of us. I'm going home. >> All right. Anyways, take care, get home safe. >> You guys have a good You guys have a good day. >> Okay. >> You too. >> All right, guys. We appreciate it. You have a good day. >> Please, please [music] stay safe. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And and and and inform inform your fellows here that that we appreciate their [music] service. >> We thank you very much. >> Yes, sir. >> You guys have a good conversation. All right. >> You're good, man. Sir, you have you have you have a good [music] day. You have a good day. Okay. Thank you, guys. You guys have a good day. >> No one was handcuffed. No one was arrested. Yet this moment [music] spoke louder than any command ever could. With nothing more [music] than a camera and an understanding of the law, the outcome changed. And that is why encounters like this should never be taken lightly. Up next, in the heart of Long Beach, right outside the courthouse, a group of citizens turned on their cameras. Everything seemed normal until the first uneasy glance appeared. >> They're calling us in. >> Unauthorized entry. >> Now we've got him on the video camera. We're going to see see if I can get a picture of him. Oh, wait. He's walking away. He's walking away. >> He called us in, so He's keeping eyes on us. >> Is there a reason why you're taking a picture of me? >> Cuz you came up to me. >> Yeah, we don't understand what we're >> Do you guys know the law that you know that we're in a sub public sidewalk? >> Is she sheriff? I've never seen a sheriff suit >> Can I ask you a question? Ma'am? >> Will she identify herself with >> Yeah, what's your name, badge number, please? >> Please identify yourself to us, ma'am. >> Can I get your name and badge number? >> Well, I guess do we have to walk over and get it? >> Ma'am, can I get your name and badge number? We're free, ma'am. Do you know freedom? That badge doesn't give you a right to just come and tell people what they can and can't do, ma'am. There's three angles, so we're getting you either way. What How come you guys don't like the First Amendment, ma'am? >> From those first uneasy looks, everything began to shift faster than expected. When the cameras stayed on, attitudes changed. And at that moment, a direct approach unfolded where constitutional rights were no longer an idea, but a real-world test. >> Can I get your name and badge number per your policy to identify yourself, ma'am? Ma'am, what is your name and badge number, ma'am? >> Well, this lady's going to learn a valuable lesson. >> I got a badge and I'm a police officer. She's not wearing her name tag. And it says sheriff on the side, but it the badge says security. >> Yeah, she said her sheriff security. But they're still part of they still fall under the sheriff's but it's okay. She's young and she's going to learn a lesson today about the Constitution. [music] >> No, she's a sergeant. >> Ma'am, how are you? We're just taking some shots for a little story we're doing. That's all. Just take some pictures. >> of story are you doing? >> I can't say cuz it's not published yet, so we're not we don't know yet yet. But we're just taking some shots. That's all. >> Okay. Um what website are you going to publish on? >> Oh, that's all I'm going to say yeah, until we know until we finish the story yeah. It'll probably be a couple weeks before we finish it. >> All right. >> But maybe you could tell her she came out and told us that we can't take pictures and and she's clearly wrong. This [music] is a First Amendment protected activity as long as we're on the public sidewalk. Plus you have Fordice versus Seattle, you have California Penal Code 148.g. >> And what? >> But it's just uh I think you guys [music] need to get the education thing is because she came out and and made a false statement saying that we can't record, so Yeah, we just want to be left alone. [music] So. >> All right. Well >> You have a good day, okay? >> I'm just worried about your activities. You're a big fan of >> I'd like to let you guys know that there are going to be trucks >> I didn't know you were a fan. >> That's fine. That's fine, yeah. And if we were crossing, they have to stop for us, ma'am. I know the pedestrian laws. We have the right-of-way, so yeah that doesn't even fall into play cuz if they're coming and I'm crossing, they have to stop for me, so thank you, though. >> As questions were raised, the silence became impossible to ignore. And the more it was avoided, the more the tension grew. Just seconds later, the confrontation entered a new phase where a seemingly simple request had the power to change everything. >> We're okay. >> What's your name and badge number? >> Stella. >> Stella. >> Badge number, please. >> 43847. >> Can you uh can you identify yourself now, ma'am, since I've asked you about eight times? 190, thank you. Can I get your badge number? >> Absolutely. Depilatory. That's t e l a t o r r e. 4764897. >> Philip. >> My pleasure, sir. >> Nice to meet you. >> Yes, sir. Thank you. >> How you doing, sir? >> Good afternoon. >> Uh uh ma'am, uh sergeant, uh make sure not to delete that file because we will make be making a the request for that footage. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> A GoPro Hero 3 Plus. That's not a bad >> I'm sorry? >> I said it's a GoPro Hero 3 Plus. It's not a bad camera. >> No, it's not. It's actually pretty good. Is there any reason why you're wearing sunglasses and a dark hat? And tell me your >> He always dresses to impress, I mean. >> Yeah. >> This is a courthouse, is it? >> No, I'm just asking. It's sometimes people try to >> Well, I mean, there's sun out. I mean, look at the sun's beating down right on us. >> It's like you don't want to be identified. Same with you, sir. >> Can I ask you a question? >> Yes. >> What the hell gives you the right to identify me? >> I'm just asking you a question. >> No, no, no, no, no. I'm asking you a question now. Why do you want to identify me? >> It's part of my job. >> No, it's not, ma'am. Okay. What's raz, ma'am? What's uh Tell me. Tell me. Let's see how much your education Yeah, that's what I thought. A walk of shame. Look at >> I look forward to working with >> You make yourself look stupid, man. >> At this point, all eyes were fixed on a detail that seemed insignificant. Yet that very detail carried consequences no one expected. And as the cameras kept rolling, the encounter began to reveal more than some had hoped to conceal. >> I just asked a question. >> Well, that was a stupid question. Excuse me? >> You're very defensive. >> Because I don't appreciate you coming out here first asking me for ID, which which >> I asked you for >> on, let me let me speak. Let me speak. You specifically know that you're not supposed to ask me for ID because I haven't committed a crime, but yet you want ID to try to hem me up and run my name and try to catch me on something. >> I can ask you for ID, can >> I didn't say you couldn't ask me. All I'm saying is that's what's wrong with the disconnect. See, the fact that you don't even understand that you're crossing the line is what has That's why [music] people That's why the good cops are getting shot because of the disconnect between you and understanding what I'm saying. >> I'm going to get shot or >> Okay, now you're being stupid, man. Now you're being stupid. Now you're being totally stupid. Yeah, now you're being totally stupid. How'd you make sergeant? I'm just trying to tell you that the actions that disconnect the public between the police is just those actions. You got These This lady trying to intimidate us with her camera looking down I'm going to be on YouTube. All There's crime Did you guys No, did you guys Did you guys see the zombie tried all the crime? >> Yeah. >> And yeah, they're bothering a lawful They're They're They're bothering a lawful activity. It's like it's it's it's beyond belief that that with all the stuff that you guys got going on you have time, ma'am, [music] at your pay rate to be standing out here and not doing nothing. It's a shame. This is what we pay for. And you're going to eventually go back. And that's called the walk of shame because you're trying to intimidate us with a stupid little camera, which ain't going to do nothing. You know, we're photographers. We're around cameras all the time. So. Yeah, they're too old to be playing all these stupid little games. It's like, why don't you teach these guys about the real law, the the one that you guys swore to protect. Instead of coming out here and intimidating people that aren't doing nothing wrong or trying [music] to intimidate. >> Oh, please. Yes. >> You know? Everything was fine. He was fine. That one lady didn't want to interfere, so she came [music] out saying that we couldn't take a We couldn't do what we were doing. That's why you get what you get. You know, you guys are supposed [music] to be law enforcement, but yet you're not enforcing any laws right now. There's no laws being broken for you guys to even be out here. I'm ashamed. >> to answer the question. I wear a big black floppy hat because I don't want cancer on my ears. >> Yeah. >> No handcuffs were used, but the lesson was unmistakable. When constitutional rights are disregarded, a single camera can expose everything. Citizens may sue officers under Section 1983 for violations of their rights, and offending officers can face civil liability, discipline, or even termination. In a civilized society, power only has true meaning when it is exercised with understanding, restraint, and respect for human dignity. Hey, everyone. What do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]