Watch it or leave if you're going to >> That's that's a violation of my civil rights. >> Okay, that's between you and the city. If they say they don't want you recording past security, then that's it. I gave him the benefit of the doubt. We gave you the benefit of the doubt. Hey, I'm meeting you here. Got some records. I let you come in with the with the exception that you were not going to record. The minute you guys went upstairs, you left me. >> Just one camera exposed unlawful orders. And when power is abused, the price can be an entire lawsuit. >> Have a permit from our city on your person if you're going to film in this station. >> That's not true. >> Yes, sir. Do you have it with you or not? >> No. >> Let's step outside. >> They thought they were just controlling the situation, but in the eyes of the law, it could be abuse of power, and the consequences may follow them all the way to court. As soon as he stepped into the government building, a man began recording, but just seconds later, he was told to stop because of a highly controversial rule. >> Where are you going to? >> Second floor. >> Okay, you can't be recording while you're inside the building. >> Is that a policy? >> Yes. When people don't want you in the building, it's a law to come in here with you. >> I am the media, and I'm coming in. >> Oh, you're media. Okay, well, you're media. That's fine. [laughter] No, that's fine. I'm not >> That's No, no, I'm I'm Finn, and we're bank. >> Okay. >> Both actually need to >> Do you have your ID? >> No, sir. I did I don't carry my ID for that reason. It's We We like to I'm telling you >> And where are you heading to? >> confidentially to the city clerk. Hey. Here we are. Hello. Hi. Hi. Can I get a copy of the comprehensive annual financial report to review, please? >> Yes, I can set you up on my computer over here and >> Oh, you don't have a hard copy? >> You would have to submit a form. >> I'm sorry. >> You would have to submit a public records request. >> Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm submitting that right now. >> Mhm. >> Could you help me with this, please? >> Thank you. I just need comprehensive annual financial report for 2020. But, do they have one? >> Cross over the building to submit a public records request. >> Got it. >> Give me one moment. >> Right, right. Okay. >> A request that seemed simple quickly escalated into a tense confrontation as the questions made the atmosphere increasingly suffocating, yet the man refused to back down continuing to record and apply pressure until an unexpected demand suddenly pushed the situation into a turn no one saw coming. >> Hey. >> How's it going, boss? >> Hey, what's your name? >> Harris. >> All right, my name is Harris. >> Hey, how's it going? >> Nice to meet you. So, I understand what you're doing here today. And that's fine, you and your rights. I'm not opposing to it. Our job is >> So, let me get on with it, man, without directives. >> No, what I'm trying to say is they don't want you having cameras in the building. >> That's not true. >> I'm telling you what the my rules are to enforce. You guys can outside. Outside, you can record all you want. I can have somebody come see you, give you what you need, and we can go from there. >> Did the security guard tell you to come up here? >> He told me had another person recording. >> I just had two other ones and they left. They're downstairs now. Yeah, the guy downstairs said if we're media, it's okay. That's your policy. I'm media. >> You're media? >> Yes, I'm media. >> credentials for media? >> Yes, I do. >> Can I see you Can I see them? >> Why why do you need to see them? Who issues them, first of all? >> I'm not going to get into a debate with you. >> Okay, well, then I don't need Okay. >> I already got PD coming on the way. >> Why? I haven't committed a crime. >> told you they don't want you recording in the building. >> But, that's not a crime. You don't call the police for a non-crime. >> non-emergency. >> [music] >> We want you to leave if you're going to record. Simple. >> That's that's a violation of my civil rights. >> Okay, that's between you and the city. I'm just doing my job. >> Okay. Wow, you know who said that before? >> I don't know, you tell me. >> The guys looking for Anne Frank. They were just doing their job. >> Okay, that's fine. >> The guy's hiding her, we're breaking the law. >> Okay, that's cool. That's all fine. Like I said, you >> Bolt Action News Group, bang. >> If you want >> Look it up. That's my credentials. >> If you want to do this, then you can turn off the camera. If you're not, then I have to ask you to leave. >> That's all. They're already helping. Right. >> I just need you to turn off the camera, and then they'll be You can carry on. If not, then we're not going to continue. >> Listen, please. In order for me to get these records, I have to document them. I'm not going to turn off the camera until I get out of here with those records. >> All right, so you I'll let you record that, and that's it. Not people, >> No, you're not letting me. It's my right. >> Okay, I'll let you >> La primera enmienda, the first amendment. >> I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I'm just doing >> You're giving me a hard time. You're making me nervous. Look, I'm going to take 30 seconds to meditate and breathe. You can join me if you want. >> You can take 50 seconds if you want, or a minute. It's all fine, man. >> Tension seemed to reach its peak as neither side was willing to back down. Yet, the situation unexpectedly cooled off in a way no one anticipated. However, it wasn't over because just minutes later, once everything moved outside, a series of direct questions were fired at the police. >> I didn't want to push the issue. These guys are leaving, we're leaving. Don't do that to the next guy. Don't take them as an example. >> Okay, okay. I'm not comparing you guys at all. Like I said, >> Okay, you you have a job to do. I I have my job >> And like I said, I'm just following the instructions. They said they don't want you recording past security, and that's it. I gave them the benefit of the doubt. We gave you the benefit of the doubt. Hey, I'm here to get some records. I let you come in with the with the exception that you were not going to record. The minute you guys went outside, >> That wasn't it. >> I didn't deal with you. >> That was my That was my >> Are you here for us? >> No, they're fine. They're They're >> Thanks, I'll work it out. >> it out. >> It's freedom of the press. Can I get your names and badge numbers, please? And then the incident number for the call. I'm sorry? >> What incident? >> You got a call for service, right? Can I get that call number? >> Um yeah, when we're done here. >> Thanks, double dog. Respect my statutory right. >> It's [ __ ] Smith. [ __ ] or Smith? It's kind of folded up. >> Can you please tell me? For the record, can you please enunciate? And then badge number, please. >> 19527 >> Thank you, very professional. And yours, miss? >> Ryan, 35792 >> Thank you. >> [laughter] >> We used to have just a SWAT team. Now everybody's SWAT. Once they're done, he's going to give me the incident number or the call number. Anonymous citizen? >> The exchange seemed to be wrapping up as information began to be provided. But at that very moment, small details shifted the atmosphere, forcing both sides to continue the confrontation. And just as it seemed to settle, a series of unexpected developments pushed the conversation in a far more unpredictable direction. >> They're infested. >> [laughter] >> So who are you with, double dog? You want to tell me or not? >> No, not at all. >> Okay. Semper quasi or quasi fi. So you're going to give me the call number now? >> You follow me out to my car? >> Right on. All right. Another unit. And you have your BWC activated. What's your name, please? >> I'm sorry. >> What's your name? >> Officer Goldstein, it's written right here. >> And the badge number? >> 31611. Well, we don't have badge numbers. That's my ID number. >> Right, right. Thanks. 31611? >> Yes, sir. >> Got it. >> Simple five, simple low? >> Yeah, I know. Classified. He forgot what it's all about. Lost his bearing. >> You give me a fair back up? >> Say again? >> You give me a fair back up? >> What do you mean? It's for my safety. I don't like people behind me when I have to >> Get something out of my car. >> Are you kidding me? >> 100%. >> Is that better? No, seriously, you got to find another job, buddy. I'm not a threat. >> I didn't say you were. >> Then why is it an officer safety? Look, I don't want to keep going back and forth. Just give me the call number and stop being so fancy. All right, don't don't make eye contact when you eat a banana. Just giving you a directive. No, I'm just telling you Why do you think it Are you a homophobe? You hear that guy? Is that a gay joke? He's telling me where to stand. I'm telling him what not to do when eating a banana. Sweetheart. >> The atmosphere gradually shifted from confrontation to what seemed like calmer exchanges, but beneath the surface, the tension never truly disappeared. And as the conversation dragged on, deeper viewpoints began to emerge, leading to a more intense debate no one could have predicted. >> Same way. >> Desecration of the flag. >> Yeah, so. But it was it was a pretty good concert while everything was closed down and >> On set. >> The whole crap that was going on. We look at that now and we're like >> Take that thing off, man. Put the American flag that we all stand under our own. At least it doesn't have the blue line. That's good. >> Now we're back in that same position, but that's kind of gone. >> You don't like the red, white, and blue? >> It's just I don't know. For you guys who are all here, you got Post Malone, Bryant, and I didn't mean need to officially say [ __ ] I was it's just me being like when someone doesn't answer and they don't say anything. >> I get called names all day long. Don't hurt my feelings. >> You know what's also covered in the first amendment? Freedom of the press. >> Okay, okay. >> And I Have I tried to impede you at all, sir? >> No. >> Yes or no? I'll take that as a yes. >> So I always tell people this and it just makes Maybe he's getting tired of hearing it cuz I he hears it all the time, but I did law enforcement for 10 years. And I have an incident at my house at my house. Threatened to arrest me cuz I was filming because my neighbor said he was going to shoot a mortar into my house. And I'm out in front of my house and saying, "Hey, we want to do something about this." And then he told his board that police department was and they wouldn't do charges. And long story short, he says, "Go ahead and turn around and put your hands behind your back." But it was my wife who was holding the phone and I was just talking to him. And that started me in this path of going out here and documenting and and expressing the first amendment right, collecting news and doing that. And and thankfully that that guy inside was pretty good, so he was good. >> Yep. >> But yeah, but I really think it was just one of those turning moments when I I I tell him all the time it's like people don't realize why some of us do this and I'm around here and why you guys are here. And that security guard inside had had no clue that there's an inherent right to go collect a public records request and in a court case called Smith v. Coming document it and film it and make sure that we can actually document that because >> Let me ask you, you think he gives a [ __ ] He doesn't give a [ __ ] >> I told him it's quasi fight. No, it's quasi fight. >> Quasi fight? >> For years I said quasi fight. I just never responded to him. >> No, you showed me quasi fight. >> Again, are there bad cops? I'll be the first one to tell you, absolutely. >> Are there bad auditors or >> There's bad doctors, there's bad teachers, there's bad priests, there's bad anything. >> So, you know, I just don't think that we should all be put under the same umbrella. Not even for everybody. >> Like guys like you, that auditor or whatever you guys want to call it. I don't think >> Gonzo journalist. >> Nobody really has an issue with that. Mike, cuz my thing is again, constitution. >> As long as you're not affecting other people's lifestyle, i.e. causing disturbance, hurting people, stealing something. You know >> What about you? You hurt people every day. Every day. We were talking about suicide rates going up. What if >> No one was handcuffed. No one was taken away. But what happened was enough to make many people rethink authority, responsibility, and the thin line between right and wrong. Up next, it started with something simple, walking into a police station to ask for a form. But within seconds, everything took a strange turn when an unusual request was made. >> On Flagler. >> Please. Do you have an officer complaint form? >> Officer complaint? Uh let me look for you. I have one form. Form is not allowed. Normally, this is handled at the internal affairs. >> I'm sorry. I don't hear very well. >> Internal affairs, IA. >> Okay. >> That's where you go and make a complaint. >> Okay. Do you have a complaint form here? >> I don't know, but I'm looking. >> Okay. >> A seemingly simple request began to reveal troubling signs as the answers grew increasingly unclear. But the man didn't stop. He kept asking questions and kept the camera rolling. And moments later, a controversial statement was made. >> Okay. Hello. >> Hey, sorry. I'm asking for a officer complaint form, okay? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But the filming, what's the reason was the purpose on it? >> Well, I film everything I can see from the public. >> Okay. >> What >> Here, need a permit. >> I'm sorry? >> Here you'll need a permit. >> I have a permit. >> Okay. Let's take it outside. >> [snorts] >> Well, you could look it up. It's the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. Freedom of the >> You must have a permit from our city on your person if you're going to film in this station. >> That's not true. >> Yes, sir. Do you have it with you or not? >> No. >> We'll step outside. >> Is it Law and Order? >> Yes, sir. >> Can you show me a Florida State Statute? >> I will. >> All right. He's saying that we need a permit to film in here. >> Can we step >> There are no officer complaint forms available. Are there? Sergeant? >> Let's step out here. >> Okay, it's nice and cool in here. Can we just stay in here? I'll >> I'll talk to you out here. If a complaint form is what you need on an officer >> Yes. >> You got to go to Internal Affairs. >> Okay, I can't get one here? >> No. Internal Affairs handles that. >> All right. Why are you getting so close to me? >> I'm trying to see your face. >> Why? >> Cuz that's how people have conversations. Is there something wrong with your face? >> Is there something wrong with this camera being in yours? >> No. I just can't see your face cuz you're holding it in my face like a weapon. >> No, I'm not holding it in your face like a weapon and be careful what you say because everything has an objective documentation right here. >> I understand. >> Watch out behind you. >> Thank you. >> So, we have not committed a crime and we're being illegally trespassed. Is that right? >> Just to clarify >> Is that To clarify, we're being trespassed? >> Huh? >> Are we being trespassed? >> You have already given you the information that you need. >> Well, no, he did not, devil dog. Okay, we swore the same oath, brother. >> All right. Semper Fi. >> Do or die. Let's uphold our constitutional uh rights, please. >> W- W- What What is What is the business? What do you have What do >> I have I have business here. I want an officer complaint form. I just want it readily available. He said uh the gentleman back there said that there's no officer Can I come in, please? >> As the demands grew more forceful and the distance between the two sides nearly vanished, the man didn't back down. Instead, he pushed the situation further, drawing all attention to the confrontation, and within seconds, an unexpected turn changed everything. >> And we're allowed to film in here. Smith versus the city of Cummings. It's an 11th Circuit >> And what state was that? >> Florida and Georgia. It 11th Circuit Court. >> Interesting. >> It covers us. Your intimidation attempt is failing. Okay? >> I've been filming somebody giving us a hard time. >> We're not giving you a hard time. You're giving me a hard time. >> I actually stepped out like nine times. >> And the staff sergeant just said I can come back in. >> wait there. >> He just told me I can come back in. >> I don't know what a staff sergeant is, but you can wait there. >> the guy with the rocker and the three chevrons, that guy just said so. Uh-oh. >> We don't have a staff sergeant. >> Well, that gentleman who was just here, your superior. >> a complaint form. >> That's right. I want two complaint forms now. >> That's fine. You're going to get what you need. >> That's right. You're correct. >> Okay. Listen. >> Your superior officer gave me permission to come in here. I have objective documentation of that right here. So, be careful. This is exactly why we're here. I have family and friends with shields. >> Fantastic. >> Yeah, and we're going to get rid of you tyrants so they don't have to worry about that. We're going to get rid of you tyrants. People who are afraid of the camera, who are hiding something >> Nobody's afraid of anything. >> Then why are you acting like this? Why are you giving unlawful orders? >> There's no unlawful orders, sir. >> Yeah, you said that you're not allowed to film in here. >> confrontational, and I think you're a little over zealous. >> You're the one who got confrontational. >> You think so? >> Hi, how are you, sir? >> Hi, fantastic. How are you? >> Commander, how are you? >> Fantastic, Commander. I wanted two officer complaint forms, and I wanted one for him as well. He He giving us unlawful orders to exit the property. We have official business here. And uh the other I I don't know what his actual rank is, but it looked like a staff sergeant insignia. This gentleman gave me permission to come back in, and he was still trying to intimidate me, step in my face. I have it all documented right here. >> Okay. >> So >> So your reasoning for filming it >> It's >> It's the 11th Circuit Smith versus City of [ __ ] We have the right to >> Case law. >> Excellent. So let's let's backtrack a moment. >> Sure. >> What is your official business here? >> I want two complaint forms. >> For who? >> For two officers. >> It seemed like things were beginning to calm down as both sides shifted into dialogue, but beneath that calm, unresolved tensions remained. And as the situation dragged on, a series of new moves emerged, pushing the story into an entirely different phase no one expected. >> And then uh >> Here's another one if you need it. >> Okay, so this is just a procedure, the instructions, not the actual field where I fill in all this stuff. We do this all of this state. This isn't look like anything I've seen before, but if you're if you don't have the actual form >> The form is The form is available online at cummingcityhall.com. >> We do this for a lot of different people, agoraphobes. Are you not aware what a An agoraphobe is? People who are afraid of leaving their home. >> Mhm. >> When they find This is not doing anything to dispel their fears, by the way. Let me just add that. We do this so they can be able to run in here without having to talk to any of you, without getting the intimidation failure that he tried or anything. They could go and get that form. Did you get it off of that rack right there? >> Yeah, it's >> Yeah. >> [clears throat] >> Right, they should be readily available and put up there. That's how every police station in our state is instructed to do, and >> The buck stops with me in this station. You can hold me accountable for that. >> Well, thank you very much. Accountability is a rare thing to see these days, Major. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Well, so you have >> Can have what I Yeah. >> Uh you have uh the phone number for internal affairs which I provided to the website. Right? >> Yes. >> Okay, is there anything else we can do for you? >> Um, no. No, sir. Thank you. Just let me record. Thank you. We're free to go, free to stay, right? >> You were never detained at any moment. >> No, no, but we were actually shoved out and it was you'll see it all on the video. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And really >> Would you like to make a complaint right now? I can take it for you. >> Yeah, just please tell him not to give unlawful orders. >> Okay, so I'll get right on the phone and I'll make sure it's sent over to internal affairs. >> Okay. Um, rightscrispy@gmail.com >> Okay, let me get all of that. >> r i g h t s c r i s p y Okay. At gmail.com >> an ID? >> No. I don't commit crimes, therefore I don't carry my ID with me. >> Okay. >> You know, fourth amendment right. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> Just good piece of advice. I I always do carry my ID in case I get hit by a bus. So >> Okay. >> the paramedics and officers know who to call. >> Right. >> Just thought that would be helpful. >> Right. >> Okay. >> No, I know. I I do have ID on me. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Fingerprints. >> If you want to take the complaint, I will need all of your information. Is that fine? >> No. >> You want to file your complaint anonymously? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Citizens may file a lawsuit against police under section 1983 if their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights could face financial [music] liability and may also be subject to discipline or termination. 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