without even introducing yourself. >> We we received a call on it already that you guys did the same thing. >> That's none of your business. >> That's exactly >> And that is none of his business. Correct. I >> I mean >> I need to put you on our system that you are trespassing the liquor store. >> And what happens if I don't give you my ID? This is what you do to people that take pictures in public in court. >> Listen, the business wants >> One click of the camera and the police showed up. But what they didn't expect was that the man behind the lens [music] knew the law better than they did. You got out of your car and talked about somebody robbing the cannabis store. >> You know, we've had thefts in town. >> I was not asked to leave. >> Okay. I'm standing out here on public property. >> Filming on the sidewalk seemed harmless until the police stepped in and the constitution was [music] unleashed as the final counter strike in the heart of Fort Kent. Two cameras suddenly left an entire store stunned. >> Okay. I ask you a question of what you're doing. >> Well, I am not I am not planning anything. There's nothing nefarious going on here. You haven't seen anything nefarious going on here. >> In broad daylight, an officer steps in. Questions sharp as a blade. But it's the reply. None of your business that truly changes the air. >> How boss. >> How's it going today? >> All right. Same as yesterday. >> So, what's up with the picture taken? No, >> I you tell me. Well, I mean, there's been a lot of crimes in town lately and thefts and stuff and to sit out in front of a cannabis shop and start taking pictures of the building. What's the purpose behind it? >> You think if I'm planning to come rob this cannabis stop, which you're insinuating, I'm going to show up with all this equipment in the middle of broad daylight. >> Just I'm just asking a simple question. >> Um, you know what? That's a foolish way to think. I'm not even going to entertain that question. >> No. No. >> So, what's the purpose of the cameras? >> To take pictures and video. >> For what purpose? >> For whatever purpose I choose. What do you mean? That's a silly question. You just you just got out of your car without even speaking to me, without even introducing yourself. >> We we received a call on it already that you guys did the same thing at the post office last week. >> Last week? I wasn't here last week >> or or Thursday or Friday of whatever it was. [music] >> I wasn't here Thursday or Friday. >> So that's why I'm here to ask you a question. >> See, now you see, so you're assuming two things. You're assuming I'm going to rob the cannabis store and you're assuming [music] that I was the guy at the post office do anything. I'm I'm asking >> What's your name and badge number? right there. >> I don't know how to pronounce that. >> Well, it's you're the camera shot at it. >> Go [music] ahead. >> How do you pronounce it? >> Banger. >> Banger. Okay. And what's your badge number? >> 405. >> 405. Now, do you want to start all over again and try to be professional? >> I am being professional. >> No, you're really not. >> I'm asking you a question. >> No, you're really not. You just walked up. >> So, what's your name? What's your name, sir? >> None of your business. >> Really? >> Yeah. Really? What do you mean? >> It's a foolish thing to say, my friend. >> A simple question. What's the purpose of filming? But that very moment sparked an entire battle over rights and the law. >> Professional. All right. Maybe not accuse me of your car of anything. >> True. You got out of your car and talked about somebody robbing the cannabis store. >> You know, we've had thefts in town, so I've asked you a question. All right. So, what's the purpose of the picture taken? >> I'm traveling with my son taking video. >> See that? So, that that's an honest answer, right? >> But it's none of your business. >> What? >> Why would that be your business? Because if something happens in town, we have records showing, hey, listen, there was somebody doing something over there. Not I'm not a >> So you equate somebody taking pictures with a possible crime? >> We want to know. >> You want to know? That's simple as that. I'm not I'm not a >> So So let's take it down a notch. Let's deescalate here a second. Let's talk manto man. Okay. All right. >> So your concern is that I'm out here with this amount of equipment standing here in broad daylight taking photographs and video and I'm planning a robbery. I'm not assuming that you're planning a robbery. I'm not assuming nothing. I just asked you a question of what you're doing. >> Well, I am not I am not planning anything. There's nothing nefarious going on here. You haven't seen anything nefarious going on here. There's no hint of anything. >> Ask you guys what Okay. I mean, we don't see people out here with I don't know what how much this equipment is worth, but you know, you don't see it every day. People out here just taking pictures of >> I'm going to stand on this side just cuz the sun's blasted me in the eye here. >> Yeah. >> Not really comfortable. But, uh, so what does that mean? Anything unusual? I mean, you don't see people riding down the street on a unicycle in a pink tutu. But if you did, you going to stop them and ask them what they're doing? >> No. >> Right. >> But you wouldn't assume anything of a person riding. I'm not Listen, I'm not being racist or biased or anything else in that m for that manner. I asked you I came here to ask you a simple question. >> All right. So, what I think just to give you one man's opinion, I think what you should have done was is you should have done a driveby, evaluate with your own eyes what you see is going on, right? Then you come back, you speak to both parties, you do your investigation, you ask your questions, and you find out what's going on. >> There was somebody standing in front of the cannabis police, right, >> with cameras taking pictures. >> Perfectly legal, constitutionally protected activity. >> Not saying that it's not. >> Okay. >> The man with the stripe shows up and the atmosphere shifts instantly. Is this where things get resolved or quietly covered up? >> How? >> What's going on? just out on your sidewalk taking a little video and photographs and evidently uh officer Banger, is that how you pronounce that? Has equated that with possibility that we might be up to something nefarious, planning a robbery of the cannabis store. >> So uh so basically what happened is a couple people had called uh someone called initially back when you guys were at the post office. >> Okay. >> And then they called and then somebody else >> and just to be clear, post office 15 minutes ago, not last week. >> I didn't get the call. I knew it was because they've been out there before. So yeah, I guess basically >> it's not illegal to be recording. >> Of course it's not. >> Um, so I guess we're we were just concerned because we don't we don't know we didn't know why and people are calling. So when people call we kind of have to >> and you know what the way See, this is what I was trying to tell you. >> Officer Banger, >> the sergeant here, there's a reason he's got those stripes on his arm. Correct. You got out of your car, okay? Being very respectful, asking the right questions in the right tone, and you're we're having a cordial conversation, which is a voluntary conversation. I don't even need to be speaking to you. I can just tell you I don't have a word to say to you. Go away and leave me alone. And that's what exactly what you would do. But I'm not being that guy. I'm trying to have But this gentleman got out of the car. First words out of his mouth is, "Well, we don't know if you're planning to uh some kind of a robbery here at the store." >> My mouth was, "What are you doing on the on the sidewalk with the camera?" >> And I said to you, I'm taking video and pictures. >> Yeah. And I That's all you need to know. >> For what purpose? >> That's And I said, "That's none of your business." >> That's exactly >> And that is none of his business. Correct. I >> I mean, I I'm curious, too, but I'm not saying that you need to tell me. Curiosity and your business are two different things. And you're being very professional, so I'm just, you know, coming down off of the conversation with him >> and and that's fine. >> But what I want you to understand is, okay, and the same question I asked officer Beler, okay? He has to decide whether he's here to protect my constitutional rights, which is what he swore to do, sworn out to do, or if he's here to protect people's feelings. >> Right? >> The door may have closed, but the story isn't over. Between the right to watch and the fear of being watched, who is the one that truly needs to adjust first? >> You know what? You know what your worst enemy is? >> I always ask police officers when I speak to them, "Do you know what your worst enemy is?" >> No. >> A bad cop. >> Bad cops are out getting good cops hurt and killed and in bad situations and arrested and lawsuits all over the country. So, if you see another cop doing something they're not supposed to be doing, >> Yeah. you guys >> I don't want you to ruin anybody's life. take them in the locker room, >> have a conversation. Yeah. >> And put an end to it. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. It definitely is something, >> you know, because you know, just because there good cops and bad cops. If a bad cop does something wrong and the good cop just stands by watching that, he's now joined the member of the bad club crew and and we don't want to see that happen. >> Yeah. C7. >> We want the little kids in this country to respect you guys and look up to you. You know what I mean? And right now, that's kind of on the fence and we want to try to What I'm doing here today also is giving you an opportunity to shine, man. You've taken that and so have you at the end of the day. So I No, I really do. I I like leaving things on a positive note. Absolutely. And I appreciate [music] it. >> And I appreciate you guys as well. >> Nice meeting you guys. I'm going to go follow up with you. >> May have started a little steamy, but it ended good. So that's that's >> all well that ends well. Like they say, right? That's it. No. And really, you never know. And you know how many times I say to people, this could seem like a very benign conversation that went nowhere, waste of time, whatever. six months, a year down the road, this conversation might spur something in your mind that actually might save somebody from something or might help me out down the road. You never know. So, it's all valuable, right? >> And we [music] appreciate that. So, what I'm going to do is >> I'm just going to take the time to go in. I'll probably >> Yeah. I'll let you guys go in there. I'm going to I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do after you guys leave. >> We're going to stick around for a few minutes. I don't want to give them the appearance that I got chased off >> and then we'll take off. >> That's fine. >> That's it. >> And and I appreciate that. And again, I appreciate the the cordial respect. >> Right back at you, brother. We appreciate you, too. >> All right, guys. Thank you. >> Citizens may sue public officials for violating their constitutional [music] rights. Pursuant to 42 US Code SS1983, individuals/organizations are required to pay [music] damages to the injured party. Violating police officers may be disciplined, have their licenses [music] suspended, fired, or expelled depending on the policy of the agency/ [music] police chief. No arrests, no force used. The police left after confirming no [music] laws had been broken. Up next, he was just filming in front of a liquor store until minutes later, employees rushed out and threatened to call the police. So, we have Celane, vehicle K27, plate P1594. What's >> up, guys? >> How we doing? What are >> you guys up to? Can I just say us name and badge number so I know who I'm talking to? >> My name is Officer Kayafa. >> Kayafa? >> Yeah. Hi, sir. Would you like gentlemen to leave here? Pardon >> me? >> Would you like them? Are they good out here or do you want them to leave? >> We do want them to leave. They're standing here. They're filming the customers for >> So, you want them trespass? >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Well, you can't, you know, nobody. First of all, >> do you have ID on you? >> First of all, let me have a conversation with you. I was not asked. >> Can I come here? >> I was not asked to leave. >> Okay. >> Okay. I'm standing out here on public property. Okay. This is not private property. >> I understand. But he has one go in the liquor store. So you could stay on the in the parking lot. You just can't go on the >> side. I didn't go. I'm standing 20 ft back from your door. So of course I have ID on you. >> I have to trespass you. So I need to formally get your ID. >> No. What are you trespass me for? I didn't commit a crime. >> I have to put in our system. So I have to ID you. >> No, that's not the way it works. >> They are trespassing you. So I need to get your identification. >> They can't trespass me. They have no lawful basis to trespass me. >> It's a private property that you're on. >> It's not a private property. It's owned by the state. >> Do you have ID on you or you just going to do the same thing that he's doing? I don't have idea. >> I'd like to speak to a supervisor, actually. >> Yeah, me too. >> Nobody's breaking the law. I'm taking pictures out in public. If you're going to try to trespass somebody and arrest somebody for taking pictures in public, I wouldn't do that if I was you. It's not a good idea. >> The police showed up. No questions, no investigation, just a demand for ID and a threat of trespass. But the moment they heard his reply, the entire atmosphere shifted. being detained right now? >> Yeah, cuz you're not giving me your ID. >> So, I'm being detained >> right now. You're not free to leave? No, >> I'm not free to leave. Okay, very good. So, if you're gonna if are you threatening me with arrest if I don't give you my ID? >> If you're giving me a threat of arrest and you want my ID, >> I need to identify you. Yes. >> So, under threat of arrest, are you >> I just need your ID. I'm >> Well, if you're not going to if you're not threatening arrest, then I'm not going to give you my ID. If you're telling me you're going to arrest me if I don't give it to you, I'll give it to you under duress. >> That's up to you. I know exactly what I'm doing and I know what the law is and you need to educate yourself before you make a big mistake for the court. >> I'm waiting for my cover to come here before I do anything. Good. >> Well, I'm telling you if you want my ID under threat of arrest, I will happily give it to you. >> Well, you would deny that. So, >> no, I didn't deny anything. I'm telling you I'll give it to you. >> You're just creating you're making you're just trying you're on an ego power trip trying to make a scene out of something that doesn't exist. >> I told you exactly how it works. I need to put you on a system that you are trespassed from the liquor store. >> And what happens if I don't give you my ID? That's a reasonable question. >> Resisting. So, that's an arrestable offense. >> It is an arrestable offense. >> And would you arrest me for that? >> I am waiting for a cover right now. I'm not going to argue with you. >> I'm not I'm telling you I will give you my ID if you're threatening me with arrest. >> I'm not going to talk to you when you're uh arguing with me. >> I'm not being I'm trying to tell you that if you want my ID and you're telling me you're going to arrest me, I will give you my ID. >> That's not arguing. >> Okay. >> That's offering to comply with your demand, but you're you're obviously looking for a problem. >> And I'm not trying to give you one. I'm just trying to be a free individual standing up for my rights. And I know what my rights are. If you don't hand over your ID, you'll be arrested. That single line pushed everything across a dangerous line. Would constitutional rights prevail or police power? >> This is not a business. This is a public this is a p a public entity. >> So, you're saying they don't have the right to kick out people who are being >> only if I'm violating the law. I was not being disruptive. I was standing 20, 30 ft away from the doorway. >> I don't know what you were doing, but they want you. >> So, why would you accuse me of being disruptive if you don't know what I was doing? It's all on two cameras. >> Because they want you trespass, right? >> Well, they could want me sent to Mars. You're going to do that, too? >> You have to follow the law, buddy. That's the way it works. >> Okay. >> I didn't know it was against the law to take pictures in public in Fort Wayne. >> Didn't say it was. I just got here. So, >> nobody knows much, huh? >> Same last name. First of Benjamin. >> I end. >> This is what you do to people that take pictures in public in Celane. >> Listen, the business wants you trespassing. >> It doesn't matter. >> It does. >> This is public property. Do you understand that this is public? If I had a business, it would be private property. This is public property. You're making a mistake. You could smile and smirk all you want. >> No. So, listen. So, let's say if you had a business, right? >> It would be a private business. Correct. >> Open to the public, right? >> No. It would be open to whoever I allow into my private business. >> Okay. So, what >> that's not the way it works. Private property and public property is a different story. Completely different story. Completely different set of rules. >> The only way you could trespass me the only way you could trespass me off of public property is if I've committed a crime. You cannot trespass someone from public property when they have committed no crime. That's the way that works. You're going to learn the law today. You're making a mistake. >> So, >> and I tried to be civil with her and I tried to have a conversation. She's just running her little ego trip and that's what she wants to do because she feels like she's got a gun and a badge and she can order people around. This is not the way the world works. This is not the way the Constitution of the United States works. You people swore an oath to the Constitution and you swore an oath to protect my rights and now you've just violated [music] my First Amendment right and my Fourth Amendment right. And you're going to learn that from a judge in court. I have very good attorneys and you have no idea who you're messing with. >> After taking his ID, the female officer got in her car and drove away. No word on whether he was still detained or free to go. Was it just negligence or a way to dodge responsibility? >> After hours police dispatch, what street is it? Shriber. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Ty, I am at your uh headquarters on Shrebert and I'm looking. Sure. >> Yes, ma'am. And I'm interested in I'd like to speak to a watch commander if possible. >> Thank you. >> What is your name? >> My first name is Jason. >> Yes. I'm calling from the lift this handset in your public lobby at the police department. >> I do have a phone. Yeah. But well, actually my phone's in the car, but I do have a phone. Okay. Uh this is in reference to a police officer uh who just very aggressively demanded my identification without lawful reason. uh took my ID, did whatever she was going to do with it, jumped in her car, told me I was being detained, jumped in her car and left. Never released me from detainment, and I uh have no idea what the status of anything was. I don't know if I was trespassed from the property I was on. Um and I also need to file a complaint against her. >> He didn't stop there. He went straight to [music] the police station, demanded to see a supervisor, filed a formal complaint, and warned them, "See you in court." A man who claimed to be a private [music] citizen steadfastly refused to give his name. But police had another plan in store. >> You can give it to that officer, that trooper, and he can do [music] what he's going to do, and then we can be on our way. >> As the legal argument on the sidewalk dragged on and on, an officer [music] quietly said three terrifying words. Call in the K9. Things began to take a completely different turn. >> 62 on Gary. >> It's not Gary. This is your vehicle. [music] >> Your auto This is your automobile. >> Okay. So, this is this goes to [music] back to it. I ran the plate. Comes back to a Gary. >> I ran what you have on the back of the vehicle. Come back to a Gary. He's travel plane point. Wish he could be on his way. Good. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> I'll stay up here. >> I'll stay up here. >> All right. Yeah. >> Officer Shackle 211. You're welcome. >> Yeah. >> Can we get your name? >> Lawrence? >> No, I don't have no You have a weapon on you? >> No, I have no weapon. >> You realize this trooper has a legal reason to stop you. You're obligated to give him your information. >> Well, I understand he has a legal reason, but he doesn't have a reason. I'm just a private man. >> It is a lawful reason. State of Ohio, he can request your information. If you give him your information, he'll do what he's going to do. Give you a ticket, advise you, and you'll be on your way. It doesn't have to be. >> We will break the glass. A chilling warning sounded, but the man remained unmoved. What had made him so willing to go to the end? >> On a traffic stop, you don't have the right to play the fifth. You understand that? You have the right to take a citation to court and contest it. You don't have the right to not provide your information. Okay. Well, let me explain it to you. Refusing to provide your information to a law enforcement officer conducting an investigation, >> it's a misdemeanor for means it's arrestable. You can be taken to the Star County Jail for that. >> Okay. Failed to disclose personal identifying information in my private capacity. >> It is a crime. Okay. >> It's not a crime. It is it's a it's a statute violation. It's not a lawful crime. I've committed. >> Oh, sir, I assure you to travel from point A to point B. I assure you it's a law. >> Trying to enforce the standard from point A to point B. It may be unfamiliar to some of y'all, but I'm doing >> it's not unfamiliar to me at all. >> Well, then you should know that I have the right to travel from point A to point B unimpeded trying to be enforced statue of >> incorrect. >> No, that is correct. >> No, sir. Driving is a privilege, not a right. >> No, you are. >> I'm traveling. >> You're operating a motor vehicle. Okay. Well, we'll see what we got. >> Driving is a commercial term. That's why I have no driving is a commercial. >> Well, we'll see what we got to do here then because if you uh just give it your information and give it to that officer, that trooper and he can do what he's going to do and then we can be on our way. >> I just wish to be on my way. >> Well, we could all be we could all be on our way. All you got to do is give me or my partner here, your social security number, a driver's license, any kind of identification. We can check you. >> I'm not like that. Okay, >> I thought this would be a quick stop by check on the trooper. >> He's traveling, not driving. That's why he has non-commercial back there. >> The sound of breaking glass, the sound of dogs growling, and the pleas of please stop. The confrontation was no longer about the law, but about survival. >> You are going to be bit by this canine if you do not act accordingly. Are you willing to open this door and come out peacefully? >> Okay, open the door. We're breaking it and coming in for you. It's >> locked. >> It's okay. >> Oh, I thought the same thing. >> Like, wouldn't it be easy? >> What's easiest for the dog so we don't get hurt? I think we're better off breaking it, getting him out of the car, and if he wants to fight, we'll back off with the dogs >> because I don't want him to get >> I don't want him to take off. >> Exactly. So, if we got to rip him out, put him on the concrete. >> We'll back off after that. >> Is that good with you? >> You going to break that side, Keith? You got to hit it in a corner. >> I've heard it's better to hit it in the corner. >> Grab it. [screaming] Grab it. >> You got it. [screaming] >> GET ON. >> GOT THE DOG. >> DOG. >> Got him. [screaming] [groaning] >> STOP IT. HELP. >> STOP BITING MY DOG. >> ROLL OVER ON YOUR STOMACH. [screaming] >> ROLL OVER. Roll over. >> GIVE US YOUR HAND. >> TAKE his right. >> A police officer asked a sarcastic question while handcuffing people. But that question raised a bigger question for viewers. Who is really abusing their power? >> Give me that hand now. Give me that hand. >> My arm's hurting. Guys, please. Please. >> I've been lawful. >> Release this hand. >> I've been lawful. >> Release your hand. >> I've been lawful. This is hurting, guys. >> I know. We got a medic coming. Relax and give him your hand. >> I'm trying, guys. >> Well, give him your hand. >> He got it. >> Give it to him. You good? >> Signal, are you? >> We can sit you up. We can leave you where you are. >> Until we get you a medic here. You sit up if you want. >> You want some help? >> We're gonna We're gonna sit you up. 69. Go ahead. >> Do you have >> scared to death your dog was going to You don't lie. You didn't come off him. >> No, he will not come off. >> He did not come off him. >> He won't come off. I've got a scary. >> The use of an attack dog in a situation where there is no apparent threat or violence may constitute an abuse of force under federal law. 42 USCs 1983. If Wagner files a lawsuit, [music] the police and police department could face a federal investigation, administrative sanctions, [music] or civil damages. Freedom doesn't disappear in an instant. It fades away little by little. Every time we [music] stay silent in the face of injustice or choose power over reason. 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